Open 657: JK9++ (Game over)

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FINALLY

VOTE: Spade_Ace

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VOTE: Gamma

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Let's put a fork in the road for everyone else then.

VOTE: Spade_Ace

PEDIT: Never mind.

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

L-3.

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I think Charloux is town.

Unsure about Mini, will need to investigate further.

Creature is playing too carefully too early, IMO.

VOTE: Creature

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Won't put a wagon to L-1 on RVS

This is the post I don't like btw.

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Their tunnel on you (albeit possibly wrong) looks pretty legitimate and town motivated.

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I don't think he's reaching. I questioned a few of your posts myself.

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Pointing out that you refuse to vote the wagon looks careful.

PEDIT: Where?

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4 votes out of 7 makes it L-3, no?

Mini, alban, Charloux, me. 4/7.

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Alright, I believe you.

I'll throw another vote this way, then.

VOTE: MiniDeathStar

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Question:

I haven't played a complete game with MiniDeathStar. Does anyone know if she's always this defensive as either alignment?

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Giving mini benefit of the doubt.

Creature can be town for now.

Lane had lots to say, but honestly it felt pretty empty and a bit reachy for my tastes.

VOTE: Lane

@Mod spade isn't voting tiger, he hasn't posted yet.

Slipped a bit earlier than i had hoped, but whatever.

We're Transcend and Tenshii.

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{Charloux}
{Creature}
{alban, Tiger moth}
{MiniDeathStar}
Gap
{lane0168}

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Yeah that's why i was hoping not to alt slip but whatever, it was inevitable.

Without going into too much detail, I apologize for my past wrongs and hope we can get through this game with ease.

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DO NOT MENTION ONGOING GAMES OR EVENTS THAT OCCURRED IN ONGOING GAMES

Pedit: oh boy here we go again

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Doesn't matter.

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Spade, could you put up a display pic?

Vote: Spade_Ace

Did Spade post something before these posts were made? If yes, why was it then deleted?

This post really pisses me off for some reason.

However, Klingoncelt pisses me off so...

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Oh god, not this guy again. I seriously feel like I'm going to cry.

what the hell
Also Hi Transcend and Tenshii.

Hi, btw.

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Spade, could you put up a display pic?

Vote: Spade_Ace

Did Spade post something before these posts were made? If yes, why was it then deleted?

This post really pisses me off for some reason.

However, Klingoncelt pisses me off so...

why

Role madness. Nuff said.

Spade, could you put up a display pic?

Vote: Spade_Ace

Did Spade post something before these posts were made? If yes, why was it then deleted?

This post really pisses me off for some reason.

However, Klingoncelt pisses me off so...

I'm sure you'll get over it.

My 3rd Fos: Alban

Which of these 3 will be today's lynch?

You have terrible reads as always.

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MDS

Lane's interrogation of you was awful.

Let's lynch him for that.

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Nah

I'll just let you stroke your ego lol

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MDS

Lane's interrogation of you was awful.

Let's lynch him for that.

No
Lane can be a it weird as town
Also Plz tag your posts.

Okay and is he weird as scum?

Also tenshii and i decided we won't sign our posts, but if the mod says we need to, then we will.

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the fuck is Charizard's ISO
VOTE: Charloux

What don't you like about my top townread's iso?

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Eh

Maybe you're right

After looking closely, those posts are pretty weird.

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Gamma is my new top town read.

Maybe. Idk.

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Alban's town

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Because it looks like you were reaching and not attempting to actually find scum. Lack of vote doesn't help you either when you pointed out several scummy things from others.

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MDS

Lane's interrogation of you was awful.

Let's lynch him for that.

Explain why it's awful and why that makes me scum. It blows my mind how often people use reasons like theirs on page 3 of a game.

I've page 1'd scum before. This is not a good defense from you.

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And Charl, I also wish you had stuck with your vote. Coz Mini's reply to you on Page 1 was indeed suspicious.

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Alright alban seems like we've learned from our fire/ice goon ways. Who do you want to lynch?

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???

Pedit: it's how i play lol

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A lot of my reads are based on interrogations

I liked the interrogations that came from you, Gamma, and Charloux quite a bit.

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And i don't like lane's.

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Any reads, Spade_Ace?

I didn't think alban noticing you didn't have an avatar was a scumslip, btw.

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Other head thinks Lane might be town, but I disagree a little bit.

He's posted in our hydra PT but not in this thread.

I'm sure he will eventually.

For now, I want my vote on him.

Kling is probably just really bad town again.

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But I refuse to townread Kling, ever.

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MiniDeathStar's play is too Team Leader. The way she was sheeped is too. By you and Fountain.

Fountain throws Spade's name in for a split second, then sheeps Mini. I'll have to look through the Role Madness to see why Transcend hates me so much... found it - it's because I know how to play Wake non-bastard games. Someone got mad because as a Mason I called out the bad "Backup IC" claim. So his rage at me isn't exactly warranted.

Why are these scummy to you?

I personally think the whole idea that I was concerned about Gamma was ridiculous to begin with, but it seems like a few people disagree with me.

What would you define concern as?

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^ Your vote is still bad ^

UNVOTE:

Pretty sure I just misinterpreted lane's efforts in this game.

Bang's catch-up was bad.

Kop's catch-up was bad.

Which one do I vote hmmmmm....

VOTE: bangthemafia

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This is for everyone who feels checking other players' profiles is suspicious:
That is how I normally play. I like to profile and then see if the player is fitting it. It's less about the game, more like a human study. To see if people behave like you assumed they would.
Sorry to disappoint you. But I am not you, so you can't really expect me to behave like you. These personalised posts like 'if I were a scum, I wouldn't have done this...' or 'as a town, I do this...'...like 160 don't hold much promise.
I can understand if you are confused due to this and find me suspicious. There are players in this game who have played with me when I was a town as well as when I was a mafia. They can elaborate on my playing style.

P-edit: @Spade: They are not even suspecting you. So, chill. And I wasn't 'probably' trying to help you. I was indeed helping you. I expect you to be a bit more gracious about it though.

I do the same thing - when I have the time.

I'm lucky if I'm able to search through 3 ISOs during a Day phase. It takes time.

...By the way, this is my first game in this forum. Have played offline games as well as on an some Whatsapp forums.

Disclaimer: I know alban and bangthemafia from outside this forum. They know my style of play very well.

Alban probably was just helping me get adjusted by pointing out about the profile pic. Maybe, the reason he didnt mention about us knowing each other, was that he thought i would have preferred otherwise. I dont think that makes a difference and it still doesn't aquit him as a scum in my mind.
@alban its amazing how you always manage to throw suspicion on me. Though, in ur defence u were probably trying to help me here.

Alban

, if you're very familiar with Spade's play then you had no reason to ISO him here. My original scumread stands. You two share the Scum PT.

VOTE: Alban

Well what a bad vote

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Error: Too many scum

u r one of my favorites

i hope u kno that

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Kling prob townslipped

Just vig her tonight and move on

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The vigilante (if there is one) should use their power on Klingoncelt tonight, because she's a massive distraction to town and won't do anything that needs to be done.

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Your whole post quoting Klingon reads as you panicking to me.

How did you interpret it as panicky?

As far as you being here a month and not finishing a game, i only have one other game to base my experience with you on and we both know how that went, i wont say anymore on that.

Why did you bring up this sentence then? What was the purpose of it?

I will give it to you that you argue your points well but i am waiting for the other shoe to drop with your playstyle.

What's the other shoe in her playstyle?

How confident you are, 1 being "hunch" and 10 being "literally modconfirmed", that the scumteam is in those 4 and they all just happened to be so obvious that you found them on page 1?

Also, this part of your post on Klingon looks like you are trying to pull information out of her

as to her role/alignment

so you can judge how much threat she poses to

your

the scumteam.

Referring to the bold, how would Kling's reply be role/alignment indicative?

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I believe she might have hit close to the truth with her scumlist

So you agree with her scumlist? And her reasons?

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motivation for this game slowly being lost

sorry to my other head

(this isn't a sub out post btw)

alban's town

charloux's town

creature's town

gamma's town

kling's town

kop's scum VOTE: Kop

idk about bang anymore

lane's prob town

uhhhh saj is i have no fucking idea yo seriously

mini i dk either mixed opinions holy shit who am i missing

spade can be in the scumpile

we're town

uhhhhhhhhhhh

idk who i forgot

lynch one of kop or spade imo.

tbh ill give something that kling likes and i like as well

VOTE: Spade_Ace

have a ogod noight

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tiger moth lean town but needs to post more

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how would Kling's reply be role/alignment indicative?

I was referring to the fact that Klingon might slip or MDS might read her one way and be able to form an opinion on Klingon's alignment which she could use to gauge the threat against the scum team.

If Klingon alignment slipped wouldn't that be a good thing? As far as PR slipping goes, how would that happen in the first place?

So you agree with her scumlist? And her reasons?

I think it is less that i agree with Klingon's scumlist and more that i read MDS as scum and if in the end she is, tha would put a suspicious gaze on the other members of Klingon's scumlist. I guess on the end i view the others on the list as guilty by association.

Can you restate why you scumread MDS again?

@Fountain of Dreams: Why were you lawyering me in front of Secret Agent Jin?

Lawyering? I assume this means something related to interrogation. In any case, why not? His post was worth questioning, you just happened to be the subject of it.

bangthemafia, what are you?

Did you look at his username? His name is Bang and he's the mafia.

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Alban might be scum guys
he's still voting me from RVS

No

@Tiger moth:

I had a lot to say and splitting the entire quotes would have taken me super long time and they would have all appeared chopped up. I'm sorry I wasn't considerate with the gold text though; I'm using the black scheme and I haven't really tested what works best across all of them. I'll keep that in mind in future, thank you.

What's 'ott'? And sure, maybe. I'm not saying she *can't* be scum; I just don't *think* she is. I can't be certain of anything unless I have evidence.

If Klingon is scum, she may pass under the radar for a while, but I doubt she can last forever. I somehow can't see her surviving to 3-way LYLO and winning with this strategy. I think it's much more likely she'd be policy-lynched when most of her scumreads die as town and her confidence flops. In my experience towns that mislynch a couple times and lose their leaders to nightkills eventually grow paranoid of lurking scum and start lynching the kind of people that mafia would never kill while they still have the chance.

So for the moment I feel safe ignoring Klingon and focusing on other potential suspects. I might revisit her later in the game if I have to.

Sorry for being so grumpy last night. I was very tired.

ott = over the top

Judging by Klingon's join date and post count I doubt she's going to continue like that. How are you so sure that most of her scumreads are town? Looks like you're preparing the ground for a future mislynch or bus (if she's a scumbuddy) here under the guise of a policy lynch.

Bad post. Welcome to the scum pile.

@ Fountain: Did you miss this?

Bang's catch-up was bad.Kop's catch-up was bad.

What was bad about them?

They don't look genuine.

Anyways, other head wants this and I don't tr this either.

VOTE: Secret Agent Jin

Pedit: p sure Creature is a mislynch but i can't remember for the life of me why I think so.

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Prodge

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TENSHII IS V/LA

AND IM DRUNK

DONT LYNCH US

I CANT DEFEND MYSLEF SUPER WELL RIGHT NOW IM SORRY

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I THINK IM L-1

SOMEONE UNVOTE HOLY SHIT

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ok.......................................................

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Apologies for this randomidget, but both heads of this hydra will be subbing out.