Micro 649: Normal Idea Mafia (Game Over)

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First

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First

VOTE: Gamma Emerald someone's in a hurry

aren't we all
VOTE: Light_Ganski

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Vote the defender, not the defendee. Buddying scum is a thing.

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Twelfth.

Morning folks, this is going to be my first time playing outside of the Newbie queue, though I'm familiar

enough

with mostly-chocolate games, even if I prefer my games to be on the vanilla side of things. Also my first time playing more than one game at the same time, so hopefully I don't screw it up.

VOTE: Aristophanes, because I'm honestly not a fan of comedies in general.

Well let's make this enjoyable then shall we?

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What are you doing here Sgz13 play a Newbie game(dw you'll be fine)

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Depends.

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My home site usually has 5 day Days and 24 hour Nights.

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Are you from Starmen.net?

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I just added my only offsite forum game to my wiki page.

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Hard claim my role bites.

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smh

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Eh I'll stick with a

FOS: Aristophanes

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That means SS is a loser right

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What happens if I vote the mod

You might get OMGUS'ed... with a modkill.

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Well then look like I can't pull a UR here

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Yeah what the hell itlepip. We need a frickin sarcmark NOW.

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VOTE: McMenno
Seems to be going after lynchbait.

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VOTE: Gamma wee a circle.

I am.

You are what?

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Ah, I did find another game where you make reference to being cautious.

But that's not what pings me about those posts, you rushing to point out how the lynch/night went badly for town does (I forget what this tell is called).

That would be gloating.

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Not liking the way reso is acting.

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I am disturbed by how much reso is flailing the Policy Lynch idea in our faces. Seems like scum trying to justify a mislynch.
VOTE: reso

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VOTE: Gamma Emerald

Now you can moan about the activity levels in this game.

WHAT THE FUCK
Is there a reason behind this?

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Sgz also has been online today, and hasn't posted anyway. Complaining about inactivity and not doing any thing warrants a vote.
VOTE: Sgz13

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Are you saying I was online after I voted you Gamma? Cause I'm 99% sure I wasn't, and if I was all I did was open the main page and leave again.

Why didn't you check the game?

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The other reason for voting, of course, was that you said the same thing both Leon and myself has said before you and it was pretty much your only content.

So there's that, too.

That's a lie and you know it. You and Leon shared a thought on Light, all I did was relay a term.

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What time was I supposedly online?

Around 7 I believe.

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6 hours

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Coulda sworn the time stamps were different.

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Still feel the naked vote was scummy.

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VOTE: Light_Ganski
Nice replace out.

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What is /mollie

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BTW itlepip is posting elsewhere.

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I've changed my mind on itlepip: he needs rope.
VOTE: itlepip

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What is /mollie

It's Pirate Mollie's intro to every game.

Are you a pirate mollie alt?

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I'd tell you I rapidly change votes as town, but you know that's bullshit and I do it as both alignments.

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Prodding reso.

reso replaced out.

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Any other reads? Because that looks like OMGUS.

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1) You don't even agree with lynching people who go for low hanging fruit?
2) I voted after Light's tactical replace-out.

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2) I voted after Light's tactical replace-out.

What makes it tactical?

She replaced our after receiving the smallest bit of pressure.

1) You don't even agree with lynching people who go for low hanging fruit?

What?

My McMenno and reso votes were like this.

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I'm just gonna stte this for the record: if reso's replacement does a better vote, I won't scumread the player because reso's policy lynch seems more of a playstyle thing.

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@BYF: nice Amished tell bro.

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if reso's replacement does a better vote

A better vote? You mean, one better then the vote on me? Why is your vote on me then?

I won't scumread the player because reso's policy lynch seems more of a playstyle thing.

You didn't consider this for itlepip? Because his reckless style wasn't from scum.

My vote is on you because itlepip's posting was terrible, and for that Amished tell.
I can easily see scum doing the "baited quickhammer" thing. In fact, I

have

seen it.

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stop hammertime

VOTE: BigYoshiFan

Dude.
VC's at the top of the page.

no one is fooled by this.

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BYF, it was a fake hammer.

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stop hammertime

VOTE: BigYoshiFan

Dude.
VC's at the top of the page.

no one is fooled by this.

BYF, it was a fake hammer.

hey could you stop doing this

also I would love for BYF to claim

Claims are practically useless in this setup. Most roles are either alignment.

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{light_ganski/Tere}
{Sgz13}
{Leonshade}
{Gamma emerald, McMenno}

? itlepip/BigYoshiFan

1.

Which side is which.

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Oh is this a reads list progression from each page?

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But the first day and most of second was all itlepip and not me.

Keep dropping those Amished tells there bub.

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The Amished tell is that complaining about your slots past actions is scummy.

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Is that scummy to you?

The fact you've done it twice now, yes.

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PR

Need specific claim to allow counterclaim.

Won't matter, look at setup generation.

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As for BYF, his previous slot owner lurked out, then he invoked the Amished tell twice. Heavily scumreading him.

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...
Ok, CC is

useless

here.
PR-soft also no information though. Essentially a not-vanilla claim, or claiming 29/30 possibilities. Meaningless.
Is this a joke? No one said anything?

I said that at least twice.

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The only thing that you presented that I feel I can defend without getting into a long protracted argument about semantics is the part about the Amished tell. I had learned what it was just then and realized something you said before was pretty close to what I learned about. As for not answering you questions, I didn't really feel the need to.

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As for BYF, his previous slot owner lurked out, then he invoked the Amished tell twice. Heavily scumreading him.

...

Not scumreading him for itlepip hammer?

That too. As I sadi earlier, I've seen scum get away with justified quickhammers before.

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*As I said

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http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=67979
Skold was scum, quickhammered due to provocation from BBT Day 1, was not scumread for it.

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You didn't actually defend yourself with the amished tell. I asked you why you didn't consider itlepip's reckless gameplay as a playstyle thing like you did for reso's policy lynch, but instead you completely ignored it and only acknowledged the amished tell.

I didn't vote him for playstyle; I voted for lurking out.

There is no argument involving semantics. I asked why a little pressure on light_ganski would cause her to tactically replace out and that you can't know if she requested for a replacement before or after (likely before) Leon voted her, which is what I assume this "little amount of pressure" you're referring to is.

I may not know, but I interpreted it as a tactical replace out.

I also don't understand what you mean by "if reso's replacement does a better vote." Reso's vote was on me, and so is yours. If reso's vote on me isn't the best vote in your opinion, why is your vote on me?

As I said, I didn't vote for the same reasons.

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UM

Hard claim 2 shot

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I was quick because there's so little to remembeer in this game that it popped up almost immediately.

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Why would he just randomly hard-claim 2-shot?

I don't know, but it's a hard claim so it's serious.

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Why would he just randomly hard-claim 2-shot?

I don't know, but it's a hard claim so it's serious.

......
What....
It's a hard claim... on the second page... and it's from itlepip, someone who has obviously shown a reckless nature. You believe everything he says or what?

I believe him when he hard claims.

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Question: has your shot been used?

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Gamma, your scumreads? Besides me, obviously.

McMenno is a scumread, Tere is a scumlean.

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Which read?

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Mcmenno is for the initial push on itlepip. I scumread reso for the same thing, but changed that when heartache showed some better reasoning(not saying she directly did, just saying it doesn't feel like as bad of a push). He has also felt a bit strange overall, a bit more opportunistic than the last time I played him is what I'm getting.
Tere is a scumlean because I acknowledge that while Light's replace out is scummy, it's not much of a case.

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Prodge.
Still happy with my vote.

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Checking in to say I'm okay with this.

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If there is a Heartache townflip I may advocate powerlynching Tere.

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Town Heartache may not mean scum Tere, it just means it's something to consider as Tere was rather inconsiderate in that push.

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I'm not going to policy lynch someone for impoliteness.

It feels like a scummy push because of the opportunistic feel.

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Opportunistic in what way?

Tere ignored the fact she stated she would be gone and decided to push her on the fact she was gone. Reeks of opportunism to me.

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I don't get why Jaack would have protected me. I don't get why Jaack would have protected

anybody

. Day 1 was so short that no solid reads were likely formed. I believe Jaack was the nightkill choice, and the only thing that will change my mind is the scum telling me differently at some point.

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I believe I covered the Amished tell in-thread. I'll look and tell you if I didn't.

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@Sgz who would you suspect if BYF flips town?

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I've been paying attention to other games and will likely continue to do so.

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http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=68299

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Also Leon: that game we played before wasn't like this game. All I really had to do as either alignment was to attack my lover-buddy to appear town.

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I'm still not fond of that "policy lynch" cop out reso did.

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WAIT
THAT LOOKS LIKE A SLIP

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I've been playing EM/reading other games.

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My reads...IDK RN. I was so sure BYF was scum my reads are all very outdated and I haven't worked to fix them yet.

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Half assed reads list because I don't care to actually reread, town to scum:
Leon
McMenno
1SVT
Heartache
Sgz13
Don't expect much from me today.

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That's actually why I scumread Sgz his only push I remember was on me and that was a dumb vote so w/e.

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Excuse me I understand that am I not allow to make statements related to what you say?

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Wait. How are you sure he's not the protective?

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We can vote for no lynch yeah.

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I'm here and I've read the plan. I'm okay with it.
VOTE: No Lynch

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Nice try cfj, but I don't think that was the role claim the scum team needed
I guess it was the role claim the scum team deserved
Because obligatory Dark Knight reference

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I think I might make a deck for this sometime