Large Normal 197: Wordplay Mafia OVER

[drealmerz7]

this is why you don't hammer without claims, not kill the hammerer (or reason for the hammer) immediately the next day, lie about roles as town, and ummm, I'm sure there's something else egregious that's gone on to make this a clusterfuck

[drealmerz7]

so yeah, let's get on that

VOTE: BigYoshi

[drealmerz7]

titus, it's 7v3 likely, (we don't know) - scum can totally bus their own without blinking atm, especially when it's on a wagon like this that should be an automatic

why you so confident in dunnstral town? rolecop is so scummy

[drealmerz7]

and the way he went about the claim

ugh, it just fucking reeeeeeks

[drealmerz7]

His ISO is really good, and I randomly voted Dunn to see is scum needed a counter. Given the total lack of curiosity with my vote, the wagons at the time are likely town.

I find that tactic useless. It was obviously a fake vote.

His ISO is pretty good. I agree. I don't like the lead-up to the transcend lynch (imo it looks like he could have gotten off so that the VCA didn't show him on the lynch when we tried to determine who the busers were) or the bins+dunnstral exchange when the claims came out, bins is off on there too, but, the nature of it (due to my HS), has him ping me scummy

and rolecop is inherently scummy

[drealmerz7]

RC + flipped town roles = too much power

[drealmerz7]

So, no one questioned why town would have a bulletproof doctor with a bulletproof flipped?

of course and I think I presented the "they both have to die with those roles with the town flips" at some point but it's been weeks and no one listens to me ever

[drealmerz7]

nahdia not wanting to lynch there has me questioning, because I wouldn't mind lynching there at all

[drealmerz7]

I just think dunns makes WAYY more sense before bins

[drealmerz7]

If I had it my way and everyone was blind-following me Day by Day

I'd lynch:

Dunns
Bins
Yoshi
PV
gerry
gear
nahdia

did we die yet? (hahaa)

[drealmerz7]

I think each Day it'd become way clearer and the list would shift accordingly

[drealmerz7]

the 1 shot doc is just a scum defense for all the 1shot vigs town has

[drealmerz7]

BP BPBPBP

[drealmerz7]

my initial assessment when Dunn claimed was that a rolecop and a neapolitan, both unlimited, both town seems odd.

And then you realize both rolecop and neapolitan checking the same person has synergy and is equal in power to a cop

how do you account for that power in town?

will you speculate a bit on the scum setup for me with ALLLLL we know about the town's?

[drealmerz7]

^ let me know if/when you're with me titus

dunns doesn't make this case for bins unless they're partners as I see it and the rest of what he says is just weak weak weak

If I'm wrong, I REALLY am curious what the scum-roles are.

[drealmerz7]

maybe scum has a strongman enabler and can choose which night to enable, and chose 5 for transcend to throw us off? or something

still doesn't clear bins/dunns as I see it

me switching "targets" to yoshi and now there's 4 on there with 6 to lynch and 2 are my top SRs - not good

whereas before it was stagnant stagnant stagnant

mleh

[drealmerz7]

yeh, I hadn't looked at the VC and then at a glance was like 'GAH!'

[drealmerz7]

so if yoshi flip's scum, dunns, who do you think tomorrow?

[drealmerz7]

alright then

I've thought he's town most of the game, but I can at least "see" you a bit now.

[drealmerz7]

nah Dunn not gonna do it today

what's that exactly?

[drealmerz7]

yeahhhh

...

sliiiiipppppp

[drealmerz7]

the 3 of you are so dead

[drealmerz7]

want to surrender?

[drealmerz7]

nah Dunn not gonna do it today

[drealmerz7]

what are your interpretations of what that means?

girls are silly?

[drealmerz7]

quote the 2 responses for real in real quotes

[drealmerz7]

yoshi foo

[drealmerz7]

he's the one I'm least confident in though

[drealmerz7]

as I see it, if I am right, then you have no choice but to attempt that at this point

[drealmerz7]

we could go full claim as far as I'm concerned at this point

it might change my mind on everything, who knows!

[drealmerz7]

and like I said, I've been thrown off this whole game because of shit sooo, I wouldn't be surprised if my reads are wayyy of, but I've got to stick with 'em, that is all I can do

[drealmerz7]

if you're town, you shouldn't lie, it makes a mess

[drealmerz7]

I thought Transcend was town.

Even after he bullied a D1 mislynch?

[drealmerz7]

this mess doesn't get sorted until we kill some people, like dunns

[drealmerz7]

so....after this is all over, if dunns is scum

what are you all going to do for me? buy me ice cream? sing me a song? it won't be enough!

[drealmerz7]

like I think RK said way earlier:

the size of my list of who I am okay sr-ing at this point in the game is very disconcerting and uncomfortable

too many people I can see as scum - let's just kill something please
I've flipflopped on gear, I'm okay with his vote

if he flips town will you vote dunns with me tomorrow?

[drealmerz7]

then my will is gone

VOTE: gear

[drealmerz7]

I feel like I've done it to death is all.

dunns, bins, yoshi, PV/gear - if I'm right about dunn, the group is there I think

nahdia goes back and forth for me but seems to be genuine scumhunting despite some off-ness

gerry I've got town but it's not like it's a read I feel good about

[drealmerz7]

my view on this game is a huge clutter
and it's just getting worse soooo

we'll see what happens

[drealmerz7]

scum has a role cop so they know what nights the vigs are going to shoot so the scum-doc can protect

geezus F ppl

[drealmerz7]

and I mean protective whatever

[drealmerz7]

*exhausted*

bed

vote ppl to die makes me happy

[drealmerz7]

you all haven't killed anyone yet?

I'm thirsty

spill the blood already

if this goes no-lynch I'm breaking role and NKing you all

[drealmerz7]

omg just end this Day already EP

[drealmerz7]

why didn't dunnstral make like...any cases on anyone? why didn't he kill?????????????

gahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

VOTE: gear

[drealmerz7]

yep, gear, I know (:

it was quite the revelation

RK is still town in my read, but nahdia is waayyyy less likely, as is bins

I could do bins or gear or nahdia today

yoshi or PV are secondary suspects that I wouldn't mind killing either

gerry, RK, titus are off the table for me

[drealmerz7]

actually nahdia and yoshi should be switched there

[drealmerz7]

the hammer, titus

[drealmerz7]

That EP made a town RC in this setup is REALLY FUCKING AMUSING. Obviously I never thought it would be true, and...yeahhh...the game is more interesting now, that is for sure. I do know mafia...not as good as some, sure, buuuut, oof, I gotta do better at not coming off NOOB (it has advantages at times, but, ugh!)

[drealmerz7]

mmmm, not quite what I meant, but, I'd rather not get into my meta more

I got other stuffs to do but I'll probably get back to this game later, I should probably just re-read the whole thing at this point so I can straighten out dunnstral in my brain finally.

[drealmerz7]

UNVOTE: gear
VOTE: bins

[drealmerz7]

bins been flailing around the whole game

byf has been laying low I think he's scum from the hammer D1 still

PV felt town for a while but meh now

blarghaldfaldjfa

[drealmerz7]

...*sigh*...

[drealmerz7]

what are you again bins?

[drealmerz7]

because im doctor and i will protect the conftown doi

@drealmerz7
Dunnstral said he is a 1-shot Odd-Night Doctor

He said he would use his ability for Dunnstral on Night 3, so he's no bigger threat to scum than any townie and I don't understand why he's scared of being killed.
VOTE: Bins

for future reference, when someone asks someone else a question, let them fucking answer it, eh??? I didn't ask you what you thought bins had said she was...

fucking hell...

[drealmerz7]

what are you again bins?

this is a question directed at bins, yoshi

I forgot my comma, but, it's still not hard to understand

I was trying to see if she was going to be consistent, how fast she responded, etc...learn nuance...

[drealmerz7]

I'm just frustrated with the state of the game

sorry

*hug*

[drealmerz7]

byf, gear, bins or PV is what I'm thinking

[drealmerz7]

can you agree on any of those gerry, nahdia, titus?

[drealmerz7]

gear or yoshi today only

[drealmerz7]

yeh it still seems like byf and bins could be budds, it's a tossup for me

that is why I'm good with byf, and gears just seems not-towny AT ALL (and the towny he sounds like just sounds forced) , maybe it's just personality? it's weird

please though really, let's not let this drag on for the full 2 weeks, I will not be happy

[drealmerz7]

everyone decide who they think is scummiest and vote it and then let's sort

[drealmerz7]

Drealmerz, if you try to rush this during the holidays, I will Unvote to spite you. Chill.

oh, holidays

I wasn't trying to rush - I am chilled, I just don't understand the delay here a lot of the time, PV left without placing a vote and I don't get why you don't place a vote D5 in a situation like this

you should have a good feel of who you think is scummiest and cast it so discussion can progress

[drealmerz7]

@EP - votecount pls!

[drealmerz7]

sweet, who do you think we should lynch?

[drealmerz7]

oh I'm on bins again oops

UNVOTE: bins

VOTE: gear

[drealmerz7]

sweet, who do you think we should lynch?

me. i mean look at my inactivity

modlynch is always a high choice for me

[drealmerz7]

RK you think it is gerry with yoshi though? hmmm

and gerry with transcend? I still don't see either of those

[drealmerz7]

byf that is bogus reasoning seriously your last bunch of posts make me want to vote and push you

RK - ugh, I was so sure of gerryscum before...and then convinced myself not...

[drealmerz7]

byf that is bogus reasoning seriously your last bunch of posts make me want to vote and push you

RK - ugh, I was so sure of gerryscum before...and then convinced myself not...

Howd you convince yourself out of it
Lay it on me

it's been a while, but my recollection is that at first I thought he was being manipulative scum pretending all the things, and then I started to think, no, he's just bull-headed hyper town with 0 perspective

[drealmerz7]

but just thinking back on it makes me blahhhh on him again

maybe he's laying back now waiting for the wagon(s) he wants

my first /earlier reads are more often correct than later switches too...it's something I recognize a lot in my game...hmmm

DAMNIT

[drealmerz7]

hmmm

I'll sit on it, see if I want to goback to old viewgerry

gerry how do yuo feel about that?

[drealmerz7]

yep

[drealmerz7]

with byf 3rd

[drealmerz7]

it's not totally without validity

but I'm TRing nahdia pretty hard compared to you gear, sooo, you see my dilemma?

why do you think bins is town after that? she seems to love to blatantly throw around suggestives

[drealmerz7]

I agree it is more unlikely than it is likely, but it doesn't make it impossible - a lot of this is game manipulation and some ppl do it very well

but the likelihood is still greater that gear is full of it

I play the game in likelihoods is all, varying degrees and it all is good to keep in view

[drealmerz7]

yeah I think bins has to be scum with the setup

[drealmerz7]

said sooo...ohh....months ago

[drealmerz7]

said so especially if dunn was town

[drealmerz7]

so we can kill bins?!?!?! yesyes?!?!?! even so I'm going over there because she is my preferred

UNVOTE: gear
VOTE: binsVOTE:

[drealmerz7]

fucker

VOTE: bins

[drealmerz7]

that you're her scumbuddy

[drealmerz7]

bins

tell me who the remaining scum are then

[drealmerz7]

yeh bins is scum

[drealmerz7]

hey I think my only off read was duns everything else seems to be not as askew as I'd have thunked

[drealmerz7]

hey that's like, the first real VC all game, as far as ability to analyze shit

[drealmerz7]

in terms of comp my wagon ain't even good

It's great.

right?

another reason bins is scum

[drealmerz7]

the best VC to analyze all game and you go "no it's bad" ?

that is a good reason...

[drealmerz7]

RK and Titus are my top TRs and Nahdia comes in a close 3rd

Nahdia wagon has my top SRs on it...

I know I know, I sucked it with dunnstral this game, but otherwise, I think all is good

[drealmerz7]

PV come hammer this scum pls

or whichever of you on Nahdia wants town-cred for the hammer, but it won't get you much

[drealmerz7]

oh der PV is on Nahdia, yehhh

hmmm

RK for the hammers

[drealmerz7]

because of vote pattern?

[drealmerz7]

meh, either way I think it is up to RK now ?

[drealmerz7]

I'm comfortable with that...sucks you're not, but, yehh, we will see...

[drealmerz7]

bins if you're town you only did it to yourself with your flakey play, which I just think is a scum-tactic through and through

[drealmerz7]

nahdia claim

[drealmerz7]

c'mon now

vanilla? Neapolitan?

[drealmerz7]

omg someone vote bins please

[drealmerz7]

it just felt like you were being difficult and it almost got my vote out of frustration :|

[drealmerz7]

omfg this game

[drealmerz7]

this game hurts my brain and

OMG RK PLS JUST COME HAMMER SOMEONE

nice try bins

[drealmerz7]

no worries

if you're town this is my worst game of all time

[drealmerz7]

see you saying that just confirms you as scum for me

"if Nahdia is town then scum is likely gear but "

pshhh, you just want me to see ANY angle but the right one

[drealmerz7]

seriously if I'm wrong you can laugh a lot at me because I will laugh too because it will be the drealmer-shit-show of a lifetime

I blame dunns though

[drealmerz7]

Bins should not be lynched because she is an odd night doc, and we will have conf. Town alive tomorrow if we don't lynch her.

I'm also pretty sure that she's town, and that there is 1 or 2 scum in Nadia and RK by looking at the composition of the wagons on me yesterday and her today.

then why hasn't RK hammered?

[drealmerz7]

you fucking serious?

after all that I was thinking gear was town and it is byf and PV that are the scum with bins

ffs

well, at least it won't be on me, right?

UNVOTE: bins
VOTE: gear

BINS....don't think this means you've won...it's just...the pain must end...and hey, maybe I'm wrong!!! yeah! let's hope for that!

[drealmerz7]

(:

[drealmerz7]

I was posting simultaneously...

the preview did come up, and I did see it, but, mehhh, fuckit, do we really want to go back and forth again? was my thought, it was kind of impulsive and it waslike 'OMG THE RED BUTTON DO OR NOT YES YES YES GOGOGO!" and I pressed it :|

[drealmerz7]

wtg vig, wtg!

and omfg anyone just tell me what to do because obviously I suck at this Large Normal 197

*runs in shame*

[drealmerz7]

*cries to self a while*

[drealmerz7]

VOTE: BigYoshiFan I think I should have gone with my 2nd choice 2nd all along

#1 transcend for the bully-hammering by proxy

#2 BYF for being the hammerer w/ no claim

YES YESSS, that is where I first went wrong!!! PL of the hammerer!!! duhhhhhh

DAMN YOU ALLLLLL~!!!

[drealmerz7]

@titus, @dreal, @BYF why did you flip and why did you not vote nahdia

because I had been SRing gear for a good enough portion of the game that when it came down to it I was like "okay fuck it" and voted him

sucks, suck sucks sucks

nahdia I'd been TRing most of the game - :|

it's BYF now or nothing for me, I made my mistakes and keep making them and I found where I went wrong

[drealmerz7]

and no I'm jsut horrible town in this game, sorry all,

not scum

[drealmerz7]

BYF ppl

that was staged with transcend, daychat, he said "I'm going to bully you and then you hammer reluctantly"

[drealmerz7]

seriously though if this were me as scum it would be the craziest scum performance of all time

do you really think it's true?

it's not

this is drealmer's worst game ever and you better believe it

[drealmerz7]

did she flip her read on me first? she might have totally gotten me to TR her for changing her read on me because she started "channeling" my views or something to get me buddied with her. I'm totes town ppls

*quick checkin from work sshhhhh*

[drealmerz7]

PV is scum methinx

byf and PV to die

the way he just disregarded what I was trying to get at, how he's here, active, now that we're down to it...yeahhh

but BYF first

[drealmerz7]

Please explain where your read on Gear suddenly changed from scummy to town and why.

It wasn't sudden

I don't know where it was

I was SRing for quite a wh ile and then he did some actual scum-hunting and reasonable thinking and I switched

you should be able to find it, or remember that...

[drealmerz7]

I always figure for 1/4 rounded down

16 has 4, no doubt (whereas 15 I 'figure' at 3, but not assume)

[drealmerz7]

I think if I went through BYF's posts, I might find 1 that doesn't sound LAMIST

[drealmerz7]

byf,

you haven't been paying attention obviously

PV+BYF for scum no doubt

weakass push on who they think they can paint most vulnerable

which I mean, I don't have defense against because I've sucked this game hard, but, you should all be able to tell I'm town I think by now

I have been winning this game for scum as town, no doubt, and they have certainly been cheering on my performance

nahdia must be very pleased with herself, I'm sure

but seriously, FFS, just play it straight how it makes sense

bins alive is WIFOM bait as I read it now and need to go for BYF or PV as our best chances

[drealmerz7]

RK you think it is gerry with yoshi though? hmmm

and gerry with transcend? I still don't see either of those

Idk whos with gerry i just know its gerry
Gear nahdia and Yoshi are all sorta equally valid there
Maybe Nahdia less so w the wagon there but im not sure

why couldnt gerry be bussing. Transcend was playing like scum whod get bussed and gerrys play this game has been to superficially vote transcend and then complain about not being townread for it so

[drealmerz7]

RK you think it is gerry with yoshi though? hmmm

and gerry with transcend? I still don't see either of those

Idk whos with gerry i just know its gerry
Gear nahdia and Yoshi are all sorta equally valid there
Maybe Nahdia less so w the wagon there but im not sure

why couldnt gerry be bussing. Transcend was playing like scum whod get bussed and gerrys play this game has been to superficially vote transcend and then complain about not being townread for it so

[drealmerz7]

I think this is why RK was killed

[drealmerz7]

possibly

I just saw it and freaked

[drealmerz7]

Vote Nahdia, get them to L-1. They haven't contributed at all today.

ok maybe wrong about byf?

[drealmerz7]

okay well i dont team read yoshi and dreal. meaning if there is more than 1 left it's prob titus or PV. I'll have to read past interactions a bit later.

ok

this is also a place I went wrong

I was SRing gerry for a long time...hmmmm

FUUUUUUUUUCK HELLLP

*cries*

this....game...hurts....me....

[drealmerz7]

I'd really just prefer to go cry in a corner because I am all fucked up on this game obviously

[drealmerz7]

uhh yeah no way

VOTE: gerryoat

[drealmerz7]

stop SRing me for my shitty play please

[drealmerz7]

good luck finding 3 other people to lynch me

"because we're so strong as scum with how the numbers are!"

[drealmerz7]

no it seems that no matter how I play it is turning out bad in this game

it's not my goal at all

it's my hell

[drealmerz7]

scum doesn't have a vig at all

gerryscum

[drealmerz7]

So... you've decided not to contribute whatsoever? That's your solution?

logic

me play = me hurt team

me no play = me no hurt team

[drealmerz7]

I mean, I'm not anti-towning it to stall or whatever

this game

these circumstances

I should just sheep my strongest TR

[drealmerz7]

and then do the opposite

[drealmerz7]

Nah, I don't think we should NL. What if maf has a vig or something. Look how many vig there are.

If there is 2 mafs left and they can kill and then vig kill they win. We shouldnt NL. imo

these 2 posts are so clearly scum to me

fear-monger agenda-pushing with a far-fetched theory of nonsense

but then, in this game, my confidence is out the window

you all figure it out

[drealmerz7]

but please, don't take 2 fucking weeks

[drealmerz7]

Okay dreal you can get lynched. If you're town and this bad, I will personally mentor you.

VOTE: dreal

dude, are you reading?

*WORST GAME EVER*

I don't need mentoring or lynched, I need this game to be over, haha

[drealmerz7]

go back in time folks

gerry the buser of transcend

not me...remember?

[drealmerz7]

yep

[drealmerz7]

Okay dreal you can get lynched. If you're town and this bad, I will personally mentor you.

VOTE: dreal

dude, are you reading?

*WORST GAME EVER*

I don't need mentoring or lynched, I need this game to be over, haha

why are you pleading to your scumread lol

^ this is scum btw ppl, can't you see that?

"why engage me?" - like...oxymoronic scum post

der

[drealmerz7]

how is it an incessant tunnel?

it's been 2 days and I stated my stuff

no on else is saying much of shit except "oop that guy has been wrong all game let's kill him"

bed

[drealmerz7]

*shakes head*

[drealmerz7]

I certainly didn't bus transcend

fucking look at that shit ppls

[drealmerz7]

if you care to solve the game
you will see my attitude at transcend from the beginning and then when he bullys the D1 hammer and then I am on him for like 2 Days geezusfuck don't sign up for games if you can't keep up

[drealmerz7]

oh wait you probs just scum too!

[drealmerz7]

BYF has been making fake-sounding posts all game

I can't tell if they are newbscum trying to sound townie or newtownie trying to sound more knowledgeable than they are

[drealmerz7]

my thought is that BYF's experience level is high enough to know not to hammer D1 without a claim

and that it was an orchestrated tactic with scumbuddies, but, it's a hard hard read

[drealmerz7]

gdfucking hell

and you don't want bins eh?

[drealmerz7]

that makes me think gerry+PV are his buddies

cause it's def not me

[drealmerz7]

take the lists:

dreamerz gerryoat iraonavp mariar - scum

Pere Maria Transcend doomfeather SpyreX - town

cross off the conftownies from both:

dreamerz gerryoat - scum

Pere Transcend - town

take transcend off of his own town list and you're left with 3 players - I am not scum, and at those points, I don't think he's making either list completely accurate, because he's scum and we're here now...looking at the lists

[drealmerz7]

at least gerry is scum from those lists

he needs 1 scum to be right in case they get killed before him - scumbuddy very often puts scumbuddy in the list

[drealmerz7]

if it does turn out to be gerry and we don't lynch him

then the reason this will have been my worse game is because I let other ppl influence me too much, made me doubt my own skills

I was on gerry as the buser from after transcend's flip

and pretty sure IT WAS NAHDIA, who convinced me otherwise on my gerry read

[drealmerz7]

blah "worst" wtf

[drealmerz7]

I'm town fools

worst.

game.

ever.

I'll go for BYF then

UNVOTE: gerroat
VOTE: BigYoshiFan

[drealmerz7]

dreal you can't have this bad of reads as town. i literally refuse to believe someone can have reads that bad as town

the game has made my reads askew, not accustomed to MS and it's making me all whacked

fucking town fakeclaims

no PL on the no-claim hammer (which, yeah, should have been pushing BYF after transcend went down, first, really, graahhh, forget the gerry read after, 1 thing at a time!)

it adds up

it's just been a doozy

[drealmerz7]

yep, that is why I went at gerry and PV, they're more pushing my lynch than BYF

but then, you and gerry as a team is starting to feel more right with how PV is being

so I can't decide between the 2 teams

bins, help me out here?

titus+gerry

or

PV+BYF?

[drealmerz7]

this is such a shitshow omg

[drealmerz7]

should I tell you if I am or not at this point?

because I'm not...

[drealmerz7]

for serious

[drealmerz7]

:þ

[drealmerz7]

if I were vig. the pro-town thing to do, would be vig. myself

[drealmerz7]

and of course tell you all first

[drealmerz7]

I don't trust anyone

so it sucks

seriously

I think you're scum

[drealmerz7]

I think BYF is less likely scum now because of all those willing to go on him, I don't think scum want to risk lynching their own, I think they're going for me in the gerry/PV duo

who am I fucking voting anymore? UNVOTE: whoeverthefuck

[drealmerz7]

the thing is, there are SO many vig shots, I almost can believe you're town doc

but, but...setup knowledge (which I'm good at) tells me no - but then, I can't be sure

it's fucking maddening - I think the muddying of it on D1 is what set me off and I just can't get righted

[drealmerz7]

[quote="In post 0, Errantparabola"]

Spoiler: ALIVE

2. drealmerz7
5. Titus
7. BigYoshiFan
12. gerryoat
13. Bins
14. PeregrineV

Spoiler: DEAD

3. iraonavp,

Town Night 3 Vigilante

, lynched D1.
15. doomfeathers,

Vanilla Townie

, killed N1.
9. ChaosOmega,

Town One-shot Bulletproof Neapolitan

, lynched D2.
16. Fire Assassin,

Vanilla Townie

, killed N2.
1. Transcend,

Mafia Night 5 Strongman

, lynched D3.
8. SpyreX,

Town Bulletproof Enabler

, killed N3.
11. Dunnstral,

Town Rolecop

, killed N4.
6. Gear,

Vanilla Townie

, lynched D5.
4. Road Kamelot,

Vanilla Townie

, killed N5.
10. Nahdia,

Mafia 1-shot Bulletproof Goon

, killed N5.

2. drealmerz7 - VT

5. Titus -
7. BigYoshiFan - ?
12. gerryoat -?

13. Bins - oddnight Doc

14. PeregrineV - ?

setup spec here wego:

we have remaining alive:

2 scum - 1 of which is a N3 strongman, the 2nd of which is either goon or N1 strongman

4 town - 1 N1 vig. + 1N5 vig. + oddnight Doc + me

who are the vigs? claims now

[drealmerz7]

sorry that can be another 1x BP goon rather

[drealmerz7]

or did I miss them in the giant bore somewhere?

[drealmerz7]

VOTE: PeregrineV

[drealmerz7]

PV+gerry?

[drealmerz7]

BYF are you vig.?

[drealmerz7]

quick drive-by while at work

everyone just fucking claim

[drealmerz7]

go with your gut

[drealmerz7]

I'm town, fool

[drealmerz7]

PV+gerry or PV+bins or bins+gerry

[drealmerz7]

whoever is town get off

[drealmerz7]

just got up ...

I'm still town

this would be a STELLAR SCUM GAME for me if I were scum, but it's not

seriously you can't fake this shit

[drealmerz7]

VOTE: titus

[drealmerz7]

gotta go with my PL otherwise I'll never forgive myself if he's scum

UNVOTE: Titus
VOTE: BigYoshiFan

BYF if you're town never fucking hammer without a claim, ever, no matter what you're promised

[drealmerz7]

it's the right move

[drealmerz7]

I'll not be moving my vote again

[drealmerz7]

there are 2 scum

1 at a time

[drealmerz7]

I did tell why BYF over PV

he should have been the D3 lynch after transcend on D2

it's how you play mafia correctly, lynch the hammerer who didn't allow for a claim

PV has made no such egregious moves

[drealmerz7]

gear already claimed before he was to L-1 I think

[drealmerz7]

but if he hadn't then if you hold the view I do, then yes you should want to lynch me after we lynch BYF

[drealmerz7]

let's go look...

[drealmerz7]

no claim but some interesting insights on the ISO

[drealmerz7]

On the other hand if Yoshi is town, I'd bet that the scum team is in Nadia, Peregrine, Gerry and Bins

[drealmerz7]

That slip over me and Bins was just me being stupid and not realizing a mafia rolecop was a possibility. However, thinking that is wasn't a possibility, what was wrong with that case?

This just makes me think that you are scum who knew Dunnstral was town.

[drealmerz7]

titus you're looking more and more liek scum on ISOs

[drealmerz7]

anyway, my vote isn't moving

figure it out

[drealmerz7]

did you read the post?

...if you hold the view I do, then yes you should want to lynch me after we lynch BYF

do realize it was a simultaneous vote at the end of a long Day of tedium, but I agree, if you agree with my view, you should want to lynch me after we lynch BYF

[drealmerz7]

I was posting simultaneously...

the preview did come up, and I did see it, but, mehhh, fuckit, do we really want to go back and forth again? was my thought, it was kind of impulsive and it waslike 'OMG THE RED BUTTON DO OR NOT YES YES YES GOGOGO!" and I pressed it :|

[drealmerz7]

VCA says PV not scum

[drealmerz7]

So, maybe your point isn't valid and you need to state reasons?

no

point still valid and those are my reasons

don't hammer without a claim, ever - yep, you can call me a hypocrite in this 1 game only that should be understandable why I hammered when I did (omg the pain)

at least I thought gear was very possibly scum, I don't think BYF had any such read on iraonpv

[drealmerz7]

but it's just evidence as to why it is so anti-town, and yep, I shouldn't have done it, because it wouldn't be an issue right now

nothing I can do about it but it's not going to make me change my fundamentals

[drealmerz7]

I'm the obvitown waffler

[drealmerz7]

just my last wits