Newbie 1758 - Symmetry (Game Over)

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Post Post #5 (isolation #0) » Sun Nov 13, 2016 1:59 am

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Yo lads.
VOTE: Jackel98 for being a year younger than me.
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Post Post #11 (isolation #1) » Sun Nov 13, 2016 3:19 am

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@Hellfire
Nah, just if you explode into a random person.

>Jackel98
>Jackel98
>Jackel
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It's not that tough to figure out bruvs.
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Post Post #13 (isolation #2) » Sun Nov 13, 2016 3:22 am

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HM+HS is gonna get confusing. I hope you all learn to call me by 'Human' to help mitigate that.
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Post Post #15 (isolation #3) » Sun Nov 13, 2016 3:35 am

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Consider yourself snatched, Alphabetorical.
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Post Post #19 (isolation #4) » Sun Nov 13, 2016 5:11 am

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So first you vote for knowing your age, but then you later correct my assumption?
Clearly I never knew your age to begin with.
This obviously clears me as confTown and reveals Jackel as scum for contradiction in information. My vote stands.
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Post Post #22 (isolation #5) » Sun Nov 13, 2016 6:43 am

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Been meaning to watch JoJo for a while. Narancia looks pretty cute though, so I'm fine with that.
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Post Post #30 (isolation #6) » Sun Nov 13, 2016 4:41 pm

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Mob Psycho 100 is unprecedentedly great.
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Post Post #33 (isolation #7) » Mon Nov 14, 2016 12:02 am

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Loopdan wasn't idle. He'd already posted at that point.
VOTE: Joshz
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Post Post #43 (isolation #8) » Mon Nov 14, 2016 2:51 am

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@Hellfire Missile Do not talk about ongoing games.
That is, any game that is currently going on, whether you're alive in them, dead in them, or even never played in them.
You can post about them as soon as they end in a victory, loss or draw.
What you just posted is violating the rules. I hope the mod will treat you kindly for it, because it was clearly just a misunderstanding.

Scum motivation is that scum don't need to read the thread because they already know who the scum are.
Nobody said your reason was false, thanks for confirming for us though.
Nobody said I was trying to build a wagon, but even if I was, a wagon is what we need to develop reads at this point. The fact that you're trying to use that to paint me in a scum light is very suspicious.
Even more suspicious is that you claim that I'm going for a lynch this early in the game. This isn't the case. You're misrepping the thread to make me look worse when I never even implied I was gunning to lynch you.
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Post Post #45 (isolation #9) » Mon Nov 14, 2016 2:58 am

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Yeah. For instance, people could be spectating this game right now.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=30908
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Post Post #50 (isolation #10) » Mon Nov 14, 2016 3:38 am

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In post 49, Joshz wrote:It does look false considering he had posted...?

No, I mean thanks for confirming that your reason was falsified. Clearly that's not the case anymore, it was just a misunderstanding.
In post 49, Joshz wrote:We are now our of rv stage, meaning regardless of me being a leading wagon at the very least the game is now moving so I'll call that a win. At this stage very little has happened, and your vote seems exactly like what scum would do.

You read that vote that projected us out of RVS as scummy, even though you agree with me that it's a good thing. Contradiction of motive.
In post 49, Joshz wrote:You're actually the one trying to paint me in scum light with that whole post, so ignoring the hypocrisy you've gone from a slight scum read to a stronger one atp.
I'm using facts to point out how you might be scum. You were fabricating motivations that didn't exist and misrepping the thread.
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Post Post #55 (isolation #11) » Mon Nov 14, 2016 4:46 am

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I don't let up.
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Post Post #57 (isolation #12) » Mon Nov 14, 2016 4:57 am

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Good IC.
Shit taste in video games.
:lol:
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Post Post #102 (isolation #13) » Mon Nov 14, 2016 10:14 pm

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Loopdan does drive a convincing argument.
I'm gonna join for pressure. If we get to L-1, I'm retracting.
VOTE: Sobolev Space

Looks like Hellfire will be hard to read. Null atm.
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Post Post #126 (isolation #14) » Tue Nov 15, 2016 7:49 am

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is pinging me, my vote stands.
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Post Post #128 (isolation #15) » Tue Nov 15, 2016 8:03 am

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I'm trying to learn to be more concise and succinct, but you're entirely right. That's a contentless post.

pings me because it reads manufactured to me. I understand her school situation, but apart from that, I read 'Tell me exactly why you scumread me so I can defend myself better' as a bad sign, especially when it's this early in the day and she really doesn't have any need to be concerned about herself.
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Post Post #160 (isolation #16) » Thu Nov 17, 2016 1:03 am

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Yeah Josh isn't a scumread.
Sputnik is still a little suss to me, but it's mostly a hunch.

VOTE: Jackel98
Nothing but IIoA. Post more.

Loopdan is either town or scum really trying hard to be town, harder than they have to.
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Post Post #164 (isolation #17) » Thu Nov 17, 2016 2:10 am

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Yo HM. This game isn't a puzzle that's made for you to solve. It's a puzzle you have to solve yourself.

There's 10 players here. 2 of them are scum. You know you're town.

Do your best to figure out who is scum. Everybody has their own way of doing that. You need to create yours.

IIoA is information instead of analysis. This means their posts contain more information about the game than analysis on other players. You have to be careful applying this to SEs and ICs. I still think this is pretty strong on Jackel though, because all of his other content is banter and random, safe jabs at stone walls.

By the way, if this newbie thing is an act, screw you.
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Post Post #167 (isolation #18) » Thu Nov 17, 2016 2:51 am

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Sobolev Space is posting meaningful content, Jackel isn't.
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Post Post #171 (isolation #19) » Thu Nov 17, 2016 4:37 am

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'In electrical and electronic systems, reactance is the opposition of a circuit element to a change in current or voltage, due to that element's inductance or capacitance. A built-up electric field resists the change of voltage on the element, while a magnetic field resists the change of current.'

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Post Post #177 (isolation #20) » Thu Nov 17, 2016 5:23 am

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lol
can we get an actual player in this slot plz^

@rai stop tunneling the low hanging fruit

jackel stop lurkaderping
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Post Post #181 (isolation #21) » Thu Nov 17, 2016 5:31 am

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y tho
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Post Post #189 (isolation #22) » Thu Nov 17, 2016 5:45 am

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yeah VI was my read too
I think he knows how to play, just not how to play here
site meta is probs really different where he comes from

josh you aren't getting lynched unless we have somebody as retarded as me and misguided as you in this game who isn't already on your wagon

@rai
town was doing nothing, i put my vote somewhere to make something happen. no claims plz
let me go on record saying definitely not keen to get someone lynched
i responded to howard because he asked me a question, lol
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Post Post #201 (isolation #23) » Thu Nov 17, 2016 6:02 am

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pressure to make the town do something :^)
regardless of alignment, game's just more fun when it's actually being played
voting made town do stuff, town is now doing stuff

view changed from 'sputnik might be scum, no real reads, worth a shot, got nobody else to vote for rly' to 'lol jackel is lurkaderping'
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Post Post #203 (isolation #24) » Thu Nov 17, 2016 6:11 am

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he thinks i could be scum because i said 'you know your town'
scum players know the alignment of the rest of the players

that's one of the ways loopdan is trying to find scum

in reality my advice was for reading people, which is irrelevant for scum, so it makes sense i would say that
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Post Post #204 (isolation #25) » Thu Nov 17, 2016 6:15 am

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you're*
fuck i hate that
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Post Post #220 (isolation #26) » Fri Nov 18, 2016 3:24 am

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Rai feels town tbh, too early to tell, once his playstyle is more fleshed out there's a few things I see could go either way
Sputnik doesn't, maybe
Looks like she's adapting her playstyle to appease to others. At first she claims she's overdefensive as scum, then when josh and I tell her she doesn't need to be concerned about herself this early on and that Josh wants to see more hunting from her, her posts flip over to 'Eh, it's just a few votes on me, I don't care' and 'This is my readslist'. P suss to me. Could be newbie trying to learn how to play properly, but a lot of newbies wouldn't care so much I think
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Sobolev Space

@howard
I made an almost baseless push to get a reaction, josh reacted emotionally, josh wagon took off, josh wagon made content, I wasn't needed anymore
I will admit I didn't mean to create such an emotional reaction, though

btw being on the josh wagon gives people light townpoints in my eyes, scum would find it real easy to just let that happen out of the gate, there might be one scum on the wagon but I doubt both are
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Post Post #229 (isolation #27) » Fri Nov 18, 2016 4:52 am

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@rai
because it did?
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Post Post #233 (isolation #28) » Fri Nov 18, 2016 5:06 am

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if that's scum it's pretty horrible scum tbh
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Post Post #236 (isolation #29) » Fri Nov 18, 2016 6:22 am

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i did think that at the time, but when you point it out that's pretty stupid of me to think

still, i think scum like that will boil themselves alive in this game
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Post Post #259 (isolation #30) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 2:06 am

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lol
looks like rai boiled himself alive in this game
VOTE: DayahaangRai

sobolev is still suss but this is worse
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Post Post #266 (isolation #31) » Sat Nov 19, 2016 5:56 am

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In post 261, Jackel98 wrote:I don't know how serious that claim is. You've already requested a replacement, and now you're just being a dick to us and your replacement.
^this
i take that claim with enough salt to season and cook a whale
seriously think he's just trolling

to rai's replacement, don't confirm nor deny this claim
to everybody else
don't confirm or disprove the setup
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Post Post #269 (isolation #32) » Sun Nov 20, 2016 12:29 am

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yeah what the fuck guys post more

in the meantime VOTE: Sobolev Space while i wait for rai's slot to pick up
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Post Post #271 (isolation #33) » Sun Nov 20, 2016 1:12 am

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ok mate
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Post Post #279 (isolation #34) » Sun Nov 20, 2016 5:32 am

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why are you defending somebody you're not?
instead, help us out by generating content. this game is slower than a snail on a treadmill. get some reads going.
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Post Post #282 (isolation #35) » Sun Nov 20, 2016 6:14 am

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really does seem like you're playing to everyone here
VOTE: Locust
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Post Post #308 (isolation #36) » Mon Nov 21, 2016 6:08 am

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VOTE: Sobolev Space
changed my mind, locust is probably town
jackel is a little suspicious to me, his tables look legit though

@locust this game is uncannily slow

sobolev looks like she's trying really hard to do what town wants
could be newbtown, could be scum

it reads to me like half of the people in this game are pretending to act like they wouldn't usually, it's uncanny

literally what the fuck psyche, get in this game plz
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Post Post #310 (isolation #37) » Mon Nov 21, 2016 6:19 am

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i doubt it's alignment indicative considering he's the IC
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Post Post #314 (isolation #38) » Mon Nov 21, 2016 6:25 am

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joshz/psyche scumteam would be absolutely hilarious
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Post Post #322 (isolation #39) » Mon Nov 21, 2016 7:42 am

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howard what do you think of sobolev and jackel?
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Post Post #328 (isolation #40) » Mon Nov 21, 2016 9:36 am

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In post 325, HowardRoark wrote:@Human Sequencer: What experience with the other players makes you believe that "half of the people in this game are pretending to act like they wouldn't usually"?
i just get the feeling that most of the people here are acting, regardless of scum or not
a lot of posts read contrived to me

i could get on board w/ a psyche policy lynch
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Post Post #344 (isolation #41) » Mon Nov 21, 2016 6:14 pm

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VOTE: psyche
wit's end
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Post Post #351 (isolation #42) » Mon Nov 21, 2016 11:41 pm

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looks like sobolev is acting
looks like locust is acting
looks like hm is acting
looks like josh might be acting
looks like you and howard might be acting
thats all i got, it's not a hard read and i can't adequately point it out to you. i don't really think it's alignment indicative
just reads like a lot of you are trying hard to be a person you're not, hard to explain, irrelevant to the game

sololev is scum, best lynch
VOTE: sobolev space
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Post Post #361 (isolation #43) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 2:26 am

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i'm undecided on it
looks fake but it could be legit
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Post Post #368 (isolation #44) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 3:25 am

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-shrug-
VOTE: Psyche
l-1

really wouldn't mind murderballing sobolev tomorrow
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Post Post #373 (isolation #45) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:18 am

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In post 372, Loopdan wrote:Also, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say you won't be the NK, Hellfire.
thanks for addressing the elephant in the room :^)
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Post Post #385 (isolation #46) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 6:20 am

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this game is slower than a turtle in zero g
i'm dtl psyche or sobolev, maybe jackel
who's with me?
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Post Post #387 (isolation #47) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 6:38 am

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dude that's a great list
i'm gonna use that for many games to come

not lynching

Human
Howard
Loopdan
Locust

kinda towny

joshz

d2 candidates

hellfire

dtl

psyche
sobolev
jackel

i'm a lot more divisive though

why don't we all post our lynchables, and if we have one person on 5 lynchables, there's our lynch?
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Post Post #390 (isolation #48) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 6:44 am

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yeah lets wagon one of the two towniest players lol
why not
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Post Post #418 (isolation #49) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 7:09 pm

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In post 411, Locust wrote:Human as I mentioned before lots of votes sat on lots of trains really wants today to be over ASAP. Some good attempts at scum hunting early on, seems to think most of us are acting and not being our natural selves. Yet as the day has slowed down and dragged on the frustration and the eagerness to lynch has come to the surface. Is this Mafia wanting to get to the night phase so they can cap poor old Locust? Or could it be another bored townie wanting day 2 so we can get more clues with dead bodies on our hands?
to answer that question look no further than the other two games i've played on this site
both long-ass games where the mafia did fuck all in the background and townies would slug it out
really wanna avoid that this game, i doubt we'll really get much more
valuable[/v] information than we have now
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Post Post #421 (isolation #50) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 5:14 am

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because i've drastically changed my style compared to how i played in that game
you'll also notice me constantly saying 'lets not lynch anybody yet', which is the opposite of my viewpoint now
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Post Post #424 (isolation #51) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 5:19 am

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because it wasn't working
1744 d1 was town fucking around on twenty^3 wagons all on town until deadline, we lynched one PR and forced the other one to claim so they'd get nightkilled
we won due to very little of my personal skill, copper and spyrex carried the game
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Post Post #426 (isolation #52) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 5:28 am

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the difference with this list is it's not a pure 'this is who i townread, this is who i scumread'
it's more about how willing you are to lynch them at this point in time
plus, like i said, if we have one person on five 'i'm willing to lynch this person' slots, then there's our lynch
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Post Post #433 (isolation #53) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 8:51 am

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we don't need an extension.
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Post Post #439 (isolation #54) » Thu Nov 24, 2016 12:35 am

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yeah what the fuck guys, this game is like talking to a wall
i get that to lynch who is standing out of the crowd you have to be a crowd, but this is ridiculous
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Post Post #446 (isolation #55) » Thu Nov 24, 2016 5:50 am

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In post 444, Loopdan wrote:He honestly hasn't made much of an impression.
that's part of my problem
lynch list (again): sobolev, jackel

willing to give huntress a chance
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Post Post #456 (isolation #56) » Sat Nov 26, 2016 4:12 am

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a town flip on either jackel/sobolev makes me double down on the other, a scum flip on either does the opposite
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Post Post #460 (isolation #57) » Sat Nov 26, 2016 7:35 am

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i'm fine w/ lynching jackel, and have been for ages
w/ this in mind, how can that be the scumteam?
really does seem town consensus is on jackel

VOTE: jackel

town flip will make me worry about huntress' slot, unless her reasons are valid
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Post Post #473 (isolation #58) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 12:57 am

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howard wrote:@Human Sequencer: Just to be clear, you're saying it is not a Jackel98 & Sobolev Space scum team?
I think it's pretty unlikely.
Sobolev wrote:@Sequencer: If we lynch Jackel and he flips scum where do I move in your lynch list? Would his flip affect your reads on anyone else in the game so far?
If jackel flips scum, you become greener in my eyes
A green Jackel flip makes me a little suspicious of Huntress and makes me want to murderball Sobolev.
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Post Post #478 (isolation #59) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 5:11 am

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if nobody denies that claim, i'll be taking it as legit
VOTE: sobolev space
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Post Post #483 (isolation #60) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 6:48 am

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@howard
i'm 80% sure rai was trolling, scumJackel would be way too worried of people picking up what you just did. he'd at least mention rai's claim i assume
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Post Post #485 (isolation #61) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 6:49 am

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VOTE: jackel
locust mvp
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Post Post #489 (isolation #62) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 6:56 am

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if you're not dying tonight you're getting roleblocked tonight
investigate whoever you think is most likely scum
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Post Post #494 (isolation #63) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 8:05 am

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I want to hear what Huntress, Howard and Loopdan have to say, first.
Make sure we get the hammer in before deadline, though.
PEDIT:nvm lol
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Post Post #495 (isolation #64) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 8:06 am

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If this flips town we murderball Locust tomorrow
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Post Post #498 (isolation #65) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 8:42 am

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wot
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Post Post #517 (isolation #66) » Thu Dec 01, 2016 3:53 am

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{Huntress, Hellfire}
We lynch these then we win.
Roark is an edge case but I doubt he's our scum. It's possible, but I doubt it.
VOTE: Huntress
I assume Psyche was having moral issues trying to IC while being scum. Not a great read but a possibility.
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Post Post #519 (isolation #67) » Thu Dec 01, 2016 3:55 am

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I'm not just writing off a bus because it's a bus, Sobolev's reads on Jackel didn't read 'bussing' to me, locust is cop lol, Josh is town.
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Post Post #520 (isolation #68) » Thu Dec 01, 2016 3:56 am

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This was psyche's first game as an IC.
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Post Post #524 (isolation #69) » Thu Dec 01, 2016 4:20 am

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I've ruled out a bus earlier.
Because it's not a bus, it's down to {Huntress, HM, Howard}
I townread Howard, I've been suspicious of Huntress' slot all game and Loopdan suspected Huntress before he was shot. Loopdan is both conftown and a competent player.

Let's win this.

Cop will give no result unless something ludicrous happened last night.
If he gives a result, believe him because mafia is betting on us doubting him and lynching him, even though he's 100% confirmed at this point.
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Post Post #525 (isolation #70) » Thu Dec 01, 2016 4:24 am

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@mod
start of day VC?
With x alive it takes X to lynch?
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Post Post #530 (isolation #71) » Thu Dec 01, 2016 6:02 am

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Sobolev and I aren't scum.
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Post Post #532 (isolation #72) » Thu Dec 01, 2016 6:23 am

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Yes.
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Post Post #534 (isolation #73) » Thu Dec 01, 2016 6:28 am

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I can get on board w/ an HM lynch if it picks up steam but I really would prefer huntress right now.
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Post Post #565 (isolation #74) » Thu Dec 01, 2016 5:51 pm

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In post 559, HowardRoark wrote: I think Loopdan's could be a NK reason. Today has "ruled out" a bus. @Human Sequencer, please explain/reference this.
VOTE: Human Sequencer
In post 519, Human Sequencer wrote:I'm not just writing off a bus because it's a bus, Sobolev's reads on Jackel didn't read 'bussing' to me, locust is cop lol, Josh is town.
do you all really think i'm the kind of player that would bus that hard lmao
do you all really think i'm the kind of player stupid enough to not nk locust lmao
i know this is wifomy as fuck but come on guys

In my eyes the only possibilities are that HM is legitimately as clueless as he looks and therefore didn't know locust was objectively the best nk choice, or somebody thought that was the case and decided to frame him for it.
Again, wifomy as fuck, but I don't see any other reason for a loopdan kill AND locust getting a result.
If Huntress is town, my logic stands and is only amplified by what I mentioned above. Without Huntress, we're left with HM.
VOTE: Hellfire
Not to mention his AtE reads even faker than his newbishness.
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Post Post #567 (isolation #75) » Thu Dec 01, 2016 6:28 pm

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Yes, there is -no- reality where Huntress isn't town.
Unless Locust is town and lying to us which he isn't doing because he's pretty switched on.
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Post Post #570 (isolation #76) » Thu Dec 01, 2016 6:34 pm

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That wouldn't be hilarious, that would just make me sad.
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Post Post #573 (isolation #77) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 12:55 am

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Locust what led you to keep the legitimacy of Rai's claim under wraps until the right time? What was going through your mind when you replaced in and got your role pm, and what caused you to react in the way you did?

I'm trying to get a better understanding of Locust's slot because I feel like it's the lynchpin of this game.
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Post Post #577 (isolation #78) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 1:33 am

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Xalxe that's so mean! What did I do wrong!?
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Post Post #580 (isolation #79) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 1:43 am

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Hellfire is using encrypted text, requesting modkill so town can win
this post is a joke
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Post Post #593 (isolation #80) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 6:53 am

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In post 591, Hellfire Missile wrote:
In post 584, Locust wrote:Hellfire dude we are all in the same boat this is my first game of mafia on the forums you know just as much about everyone as I do. Read posts and just let us know if anything stands out to you don't get hung up on it just let it flow. I have no training in playing you just read what people say and look for dodgy stuff. By not doing that you appear to be scum as they don't like pointing fingers. The other option of course is you are scum in which case just say "I am scum" and we can lynch you and go home.
if i said i am scum and i wasn't

then would that be not fulfilling my win condition and there for i will get a ban or something?

i am "totally"
scum
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What even is this post?
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Post Post #596 (isolation #81) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 7:32 am

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Very interested to hear Huntress' input now that she's conftown.
Maybe Howard isn't as towny as I thought in hindsight.
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Post Post #597 (isolation #82) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 7:39 am

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Howard is really fcking hard to read actually.
Huntress what is your read on Howard?

No way is HM faking it. No experienced player would break the rules and talk about ongoing games the way he did, which makes me think maybe the nk really was just him not knowing who to kill.
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Post Post #598 (isolation #83) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 7:45 am

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Howard has only voted Psyche(+Huntress), Josh, Jackel and I. With the exception of Jackel, they're all either conftown or town in my eyes. Howard jumped off Jackel's wagon before he was lynched.
I don't see scum motivations for most of his actions, though. Troubling.
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Post Post #599 (isolation #84) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 7:46 am

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HM is the lynch today. I think everybody should weigh in, and then we should take him to the gallows.
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Post Post #600 (isolation #85) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 7:51 am

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Nah Howard is town.
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Post Post #601 (isolation #86) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 7:59 am

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Sobolev bussing Jackel isn't as unrealistic as I thought.
She's really concerned about how I read her. She asked before the flip () and after the flip () what Jackel's flip would have/did have on how I read her, and I was the one who suspected her the most.

Reading over her iso there's a whole fucktonne of little things that rub me the wrong way about her. Really good D3 lynch candidate after HM.
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Post Post #602 (isolation #87) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 8:00 am

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I didn't specify that properly, I believe that her concerned about how I read her in relation to the flip could be her measuring up whether it's a worthwhile bus and then later wondering if it got her off the hook.
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Post Post #605 (isolation #88) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 8:24 am

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I was thinking about suggesting that a little while ago and I don't think it's worth doing unless we get to lylo and the doc is still alive.
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Post Post #607 (isolation #89) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 8:54 am

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@howard

On disregarding the bus: I did quote it, but I'll go in a little more detail.
This is the lynch wagon.
Loopdan, Human Sequencer, Locust, Joshz, Sobolev Space
Loopdan is conftown and dead. He can't be scum.
Locust is conftown. Not scum.
I read Josh as lock town.
Sobolev Space: at the time I didn't really subscribe to the belief that Sobolev's read progression on Jackel was likely to be a bus, but as I've said I'm coming around to doubting it now.
Obviously I'm town as far as I'm concerned.

I townread you because there's zero scum motivation for most of what you've been doing. I had an 'Aha!' moment when I realized that your 'Not Lynching' column had two conf townies at a time before either of them were 100% confirmed, and that you wanted to lynch Jackel (Scum) and pushed that wagon until they claimed tracker. You weren't around for the CC, so it makes perfect sense you wouldn't be on the lynch wagon. Locust also townread you yesterday-- Locust is conftown.
Also in that list you scumread the IC slot, logic I can agree with because I wanted that gone all the way until they became conftown.

You are probably my strongest townread right now, above Josh. Not counting the conftowns of course.

I do have a problem with explaining the motivations behind my reads, I always just forget to go that extra mile to convey it as clearly as I have in this post. Please keep prodding me to do it, especially if it helps you read me better.
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Post Post #608 (isolation #90) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 8:55 am

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Alright once more w/ feeling

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Post Post #635 (isolation #91) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 12:39 am

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[quote="sobolev]More importantly, if I was scum there's no way I would risk letting Locust live/inspect last night considering I was his biggest scum read through all of yesterday so there's a good chance he would inspect me.[/quote]
That's valid, but not enough to 100% win me over.

What's the case on me? I don't understand how I'm a pretty consistent scumread despite being on the jackel wagon almost from the word go and doing nothing but scumhunt (yesterday successfully) and townhunt all day.


Also what's the case on howard? He should be lock town at this point for the reasons I pointed out in post
I mean I get it if you disagree w/ my reads for some reason but please at least address it and let me know so we can talk and mull it over, it'll help us all get closer to finding the right lynch.
Joshz wrote:and then after when i say im also fine with a jackel lynch. granted, i remembered having more involvement than i did. human being on the wagon that early helps him. howard and hm not being on it period is awful.
I fell into that trap too, Howard -was- on the wagon but left when Jackel claimes tracker (). He gives valid reason for doing this-- Locust hadn't confirmed nor denied his cop status at the time, and Howard wasn't sure whether to trust Rai's word.

My read on Josh is like 80% gut, but it's incredibly powerful gut.
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Post Post #636 (isolation #92) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 12:40 am

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ebwop
Mod, requesting you delete the above post because the content is exactly the same with only slightly modified format, and it's annoying and an eyesore to look at

sobolev wrote:More importantly, if I was scum there's no way I would risk letting Locust live/inspect last night considering I was his biggest scum read through all of yesterday so there's a good chance he would inspect me.
That's valid, but not enough to 100% win me over.

What's the case on me? I don't understand how I'm a pretty consistent scumread despite being on the jackel wagon almost from the word go and doing nothing but scumhunt (yesterday successfully) and townhunt all day.

Also what's the case on howard? He should be lock town at this point for the reasons I pointed out in post
I mean I get it if you disagree w/ my reads for some reason but please at least address it and let me know so we can talk and mull it over, it'll help us all get closer to finding the right lynch.
Joshz wrote:and then after when i say im also fine with a jackel lynch. granted, i remembered having more involvement than i did. human being on the wagon that early helps him. howard and hm not being on it period is awful.
I fell into that trap too, Howard -was- on the wagon but left when Jackel claimes tracker (). He gives valid reason for doing this-- Locust hadn't confirmed nor denied his cop status at the time, and Howard wasn't sure whether to trust Rai's word.

My read on Josh is like 80% gut, but it's incredibly powerful gut.
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Post Post #652 (isolation #93) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 4:36 pm

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Not voting josh today, he's town, but go ahead I guess.

Sobolevs posts all send my scumdar into overdrive but I would still prefer HM gone today.
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Post Post #654 (isolation #94) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 1:37 am

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zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Post Post #655 (isolation #95) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 1:39 am

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This game is already over, we lynch HM then Sobolev, if we do that we win either D2 or 3 guaranteed(tm)
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Post Post #658 (isolation #96) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 2:51 am

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In I was in 'Look for scum in Howard's posts' mode. The fact that I couldn't find any is troubling to that perspective.
It's a contradiction, but at the time I was humming and hahing over the slot trying to figure out his alignment.
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Post Post #661 (isolation #97) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 4:23 am

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I've peeled over Josh's iso a bunch and I really do not see it, Huntress.
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Post Post #667 (isolation #98) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 1:52 am

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BUMP
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Post Post #669 (isolation #99) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:00 am

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Not to you, to EVERYBODY
Now I know this thread is a ghost town~
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Post Post #672 (isolation #100) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:06 am

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^^that is towny BTW :]
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Post Post #674 (isolation #101) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:23 am

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Yep!
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Post Post #676 (isolation #102) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 3:59 am

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I was joking. :nerd:
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Post Post #677 (isolation #103) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 4:00 am

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>inb4 i get lynched because i'm bored and the thread is dead
oh i'll be laffin then
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Post Post #684 (isolation #104) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 6:03 am

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I've slept on it and changed my mind by the way, I think Sobolev is more likely our scum, but as long as we lynch her tomorrow I don't mind lynching HM today.
Howard isn't our scum and if he is he deserves the win.
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Post Post #686 (isolation #105) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 6:22 am

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We won't have to lynch Howard.

If we can lynch three (and I thought we could only lynch 2) I will -gladly- put myself on the line to be lynched if Sobolev and HM flip town.
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Post Post #688 (isolation #106) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 6:33 am

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Space seems incapable of creating an original thought, and everything she posts reads fake to me.
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Post Post #690 (isolation #107) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 6:34 am

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You're right, I forgot about today's lynch.

I don't really care who we lynch out of those two though, because with PoE in mind we literally just win unless somebody can sell me on scumHoward/scumJosh.
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Post Post #693 (isolation #108) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 6:48 am

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That's obvious Josh, but you don't have to point that out to everybody. :wink:
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Post Post #696 (isolation #109) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:37 am

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HM, Locust has to be cop. There's no alternative, because if locust isn't cop there's another town power role hiding in the game somewhere.
If that power role claims, we literally just win. We lynch Locust and then the person who counterclaimed them, and as long as no townies have made the stupid decision to fakeclaim, one of them is scum.

Josh isn't town cleared, but I read him as very towny.
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Post Post #702 (isolation #110) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 10:32 am

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Sobolev is our scum, I really shouldn't have to explain why is scummier than anything else in this thread.

Sobolev just took a complete 180 in playstyle, this is scum realizing what she's doing isn't working and panicking over getting caught.

Of course I don't consider the possibility that I'm the NK for two nights. That's Locust and Huntress. You're reaching pretty hard there.

I'm not buying your gambit, it reads faker than fake nails to buy 'just one more day' in a hopeless situation. Lynch this.
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Post Post #703 (isolation #111) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 10:32 am

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VOTE: sobolev
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Post Post #704 (isolation #112) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 10:34 am

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The last time you even mentioned me was around about post 220 or something. Now you're just pulling a scumread on me out of your ass to desperately try and flip a wagon on me.

This is our scum boys, gg.
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Post Post #709 (isolation #113) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 10:43 am

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You're right, I did a ctrl-f search of your iso for 'human' and 'hs' so I missed those.
You're still scum though :^)
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Post Post #727 (isolation #114) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:41 am

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Game's already over, we lynch sobolev->hm->josh and win
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Post Post #729 (isolation #115) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:45 am

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I'm not scum though :wink:
I highly doubt you're scum so we still probably win if I'm lynched as long as we follow the groundwork I laid.
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Post Post #731 (isolation #116) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 6:32 am

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Joshz - Reads very town
Sobolev Space - Reads scummy
Hellfire Missile - Reads ???
Locust - Conftown
Human Sequencer - Conftown
HowardRoark (SE) - Reads very town
Huntress (IC) - Conftown

There's only two people on this list I consider scummy enough to vote, and we have three lynches.
That means we can fuck up once (probably a me, josh or howard lynch) and then we follow the plan and win.

If town is gonna lynch me I would really prefer it be today so tomorrow this plan is viewed as coming from conftown.
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Post Post #733 (isolation #117) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 7:10 am

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Howard, Huntress, if you're reading this after I've been lynched and flip town, trust Josh.

Also, you get one heart each.

<3 <3
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Post Post #735 (isolation #118) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 7:19 am

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I said some pretty stupid and scummy things when I was pressuring Sobolev I expect you and huntress to pick up on and use as fuel for a wagon, so I see my lynch as likely. Obviously I'd prefer lynching scum, which is why my vote is on sobolev.

I trust josh because he's reading pretty town to me.
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Post Post #737 (isolation #119) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 7:28 am

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Jackel asked me how I knew (roughly) his age.
1998.
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Post Post #741 (isolation #120) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 8:03 am

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@Howard
It is. Optimally I wouldn't be lynched, and we can sub Josh to be lynched instead.
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Post Post #745 (isolation #121) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 8:09 am

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@huntress
That's a stupid gambit for scum to make. Nobody is townreading me for it.

I'm honestly still surprised I'm a lynch target considering how early I was on the jackel wagon and considering all the effort I've put into solving this game.
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Post Post #746 (isolation #122) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 8:12 am

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ScumHS would just let the thread die and fall into inactivity tbh.
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Post Post #761 (isolation #123) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:34 am

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i'm VT lol, i'm also unquestionably dead

i meta read hellfire and i think it's unlikely that he's scum, don't waste tomorrow on lynching him, go sobolev plz

howard is town, josh is probably town but the read weakens with every passing post, make of that what you will. probably lynch josh over hm lylo depending on the mods answer to my entirely hypothetical situation below

doc protect locust ofc

@mod
in a hypothetical situation where i am a lone scum roleblocker in my first game, imagine that there is one claimed cop in play.
if i were to input the night action to kill another player who isn't the claimed cop and do nothing with my roleblock, would you pm me informing me that i can use both my actions at night, considering that i'm a new player?
the situation is purely hypothetical of course
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Post Post #762 (isolation #124) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:37 am

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joshs' willingness to get on literally any wagon not on conftown is actually really suss
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Post Post #763 (isolation #125) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:39 am

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lmao josh is probably the last scum bet you thought you escaped that one hey :^)

lynch sobolev/josh in any order and win, good luck town i believe in you

VOTE: Human Sequencer
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Post Post #968 (isolation #126) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 1:23 am

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was probably howard scum, i realized too late what actually good scumplay looks like
sorry i let y'all down on every front, gg though, learned a lot
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Post Post #971 (isolation #127) » Thu Jan 12, 2017 4:12 am

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In post 969, Loopdan wrote:the lack of a dead thread was disappointing.
I know right! D:
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Post Post #975 (isolation #128) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:04 am

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look at every post you see and ask yourself
'is this post more likely to come from town or scum?'
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'what's the motivation behind this post?'
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Post Post #977 (isolation #129) » Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:07 am

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was getting bored tbh, i realize in hindsight i wasn't applying myself well enough, but it's something to learn from
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Post Post #986 (isolation #130) » Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:10 am

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I'm ashamed you were watching this game, giggles, because my play was fucking abysmal.
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Post Post #992 (isolation #131) » Wed Jan 18, 2017 7:25 pm

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josh, i would enjoy playing w/ you again.
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