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what's up with everyone hardclaiming scum lmfaoIn post 842, Burgerking wrote:yh site went down blah blah
idk why gerry died when he was the one to hammer without asking for claim, would've been an easy for push for maf.
anyway all the people who voted lil Uzi are either mafia or bad at this game.
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@xSoniaNevermindx is this ur first time modding? VC 1.2 was i not voting Io at that point?- Transcend
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yeah two scumbags just sheeped my ccc vote
UNVOTE:
might need to reread a few isos, but tonight is not the night- Transcend
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im almost 95% sure those weren't your intentions.In post 847, Burgerking wrote:hmmph yes i was uh trying to build up the pressure on cccc. i actually like this vote better
VOTE: Hermie
this backpedaling is terrible.
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and you never tried to stop me, or anyone voting him
so
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touche
kinda sucks that our mod didn't do a voting log for so long
but then again not really because seeing people get lolhammer'd is amusing.- Transcend
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(but yeah please be on top of the voting logs today because that was just pathetic)
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Good work!In post 860, Io wrote:VOTE: Trans
In case you missed it on the PT Trans I'm going to distance you a bit so they don't think we are really Masons.- Transcend
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Thoughts in a bit.
I'm all yours until my girlie friend comes home
Which is in about 2 hours.
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In post 963, mhsmith0 wrote:
Gerry is obv scum for lol hammer. Oh wait...In post 961, Transcend wrote:Thoughts in a bit.
I'm all yours until my girlie friend comes home
Which is in about 2 hours.
Time for some shitty VCA!!! Yay!!!!
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Alright, it's kinda hard to do VCA when mod was fairly lazy throughout the whole day, and we had a hammer for about 3 days or so without knowing it, but here goes nothing. I trust that Sonia put everything chronologically here.
UZI WAGON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Disclaimer: Green=Conf Town, yes, I know I'm not conf town to you guys, but I don't give a fuck.
(L-0)Lil Uzi Vert- mhmsmith0,Transcend, JaeReed, Hermie, Impoetic, Io,gerryoat-LYNCHED
If scum strategically plotted this wagon by placing one or more of their members on this vote, that meant that scum would be in Impo, Io, and gerry. One of those is flipped town, one is my best townread and the other is also a fairly strong townread. I doubt scum!Jae and scum!Hermie would strategically L-4 and L-3 the lynch. I think the fast wagon was just due to not having a VC. I truthfully only think that there's at most (and probably) one scum that was on this mislynch.
So let's take a look at each individual member on the wagon individually.
Smith: The first vote, but I think he voted him because I did, or he agreed with my reasoning on him, while I was changing my vote as often as I change my underwear. His vote doesn't appear tactical like "hey I can get this guy mislynched". I think he genuinely agreed with me that Lil Uzi was scum or, at least, that his content was bad. Read:Lean-Town.
JaeReed: This guy has been up my ass all game. I hate being buddied truthfully even though that's hypocritical since I tend to buddy a lot myself. Anyways he basically made me the town doublevoter that day everywhere I voted he voted. Is this scummy? Kinda. Does that make me fos him? Not really, but it does make me want to put him on close watch, even though I really liked his reactions to a few things. Read:Null.
Hermie: His vote was on me for the longest of time, and the reasons for it were bad, but not exactly scummy. I don't know why though when he doubted his read on me he immediately decided to sheep me. That's putting a lot of trust in someone he formerly thought was scum. I can understand the likes of mhsmith and Jae sheeping me, but Hermie? I truthfully think that this was the scum on the wagon. Read:Lean Scum.
Io: She's been my hardest townread all game. I'm gonna disclose right now that we aren't actually masons, it was only banter. I'm sure most of you knew, but there are some people that genuinely question it. I saw Io play scum in my Fire n Ice game and her scum game is insanely different from her town game. Her reactions have been fairly genuine and her tone is really towny. Scum CAN fake it, but this is definitely Town!Io here. Read:Town.
Impoetic: I might need to re-ISO her since she's a controversial player, but I've played thousands of games with her off site. I'm bad at reading her in chat mafia but I'm pretty good at reading her in the long drawn-out games. However that's not always. I don't think her vote was tactical, rather, just voting someone she thought was scum, or scummy. Read:Null-Town.
NON-UZI WAGONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
(L-6)gerryoat-Lil Uzi Vert<-------------------------- lol
As for the rest, I do hold a read of which yields 2 scum in the bloc of {rb, Burger, CCC}. All 3 of them defended Uzi and I feel for 2 of them it was defense on a scummy town slot for them to get another mislynch and save Uzi for another day. In their defense: there was a lolhammer, and if they wanted to properly defend Uzi, they couldn't exactly do such.
(L-6) VWXYZ - rb
(L-6) Cloudkicker - Burgerking
Not Voting: VWXYZ, CCC, CloudKicker
V and Cloud are town I'm pretty sure. I may need to reread both ISOs, but I'm not concerned about either of them right now.
rb: I think most of his votes have been fairly inconsistent. IIRC, he had a fos on someone (Cloud???) but then RVS'd VWXYZ, and parked his vote there for quite some time due to his "explosion". While his explosion was bad, he agreed with me that he was better off being vigged rather than lynched, yet his vote was parked on V for quite a long time, without pursuing his vote on another slot. His day 1 was pretty bad and inconsistent. And I didn't like his defense on Uzi. He was right, but scum do know who's town and who isn't, and I feel like he used that information to his advantage. rb isn't really interacting with Burger or CCC so I'm pretty sure he's surely scum here. His vote on CCC was really bad, even though it could've been him voting scum. I can see a bus there. Read:Scum.
Burgerking: His entrance was fucking awful. His vote on Io was even worse. He overanalyzed all the mshmith-Io interactions. Then just shadethrew the rest of D1. His D2 hasn't been much better. His vote on CCC looked pretty tactical. Then I unvote and he unvotes because he was "building pressure". I don't think those were his intentions. CCC didn't even react to his vote, or any other vote by the time he had unvoted so that was clearly not his intention. There is a chance though that he's just really awful town, but I'm leaning heavily towards no. Read:Lean Scum.
CCC: His reads this game are awful, and his "one of Trans/Uzi is scum" thing was really bad. But I gave him benefit of the doubt because Uzi was just horrible and I didn't think he'd associate with Uzi if he were mafia the way he did. Now that Uzi has flipped town, he hasn't done anything to pressure me at all. He's been more focused on Jae. Like there's even been a forming bandwagon on me and he still doesn't pressure me when I'm "poe scum" to him. However, the votes from rb and Burgerking on him were awful. Right now, I'm gonna agree with Smith here and say he's scummy but that there's a lot of scummier people. Read:Null-Scum.
IMO one of {Jae,Hermie} with a fairly strong lean on Hermie and two of {rb, Burger, CCC} where I'm fairly certain rb is one of them.
TL;DR.
{Io}
{mhsmith0, VWXYZ, CloudKicker}
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{Burgerking, Hermie}
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OH AND ONE FINAL IMPORTANT THING:
Jae/CCC are not on a scum team together. I'm. Pretty. Sure.
So if Jae ends up flipping wolf, then his partners should be Burger and rb.
If CCC is mafia then Hermie is a partner and the other one is up in the air, but probably rb.
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Analyzing Burger's page 34 (and a brief bit of 35) I really doubt he votes both his scum partners within a span of 5 posts. So yeah.In post 847, Burgerking wrote:hmmph yes i was uh trying to build up the pressure on cccc. i actually like this vote better
VOTE: Hermie
His vote on Hermie looks like a bus though, as it was meatless and he acquiesced to someone else rather quickly, so I'm gonna cross out CCC/Burger being on a scum team for now.
Which proves that rb is even more scum.
Honestly I truly feel like I solved this motherfucking game already.
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who's scum thenIn post 971, rb wrote:that post is way too long and tryhard for me to respond to in-depth while on V/LA and moving house but i think ur town anyway so i cbf arguing in depth, but:
- it was actually gerry who i suspected day 1 and i did vote him, i didn't "keep" my rvs vote
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ALRIGHT TIME TO ADDRESS EVERY MOTHERFUCKING PLAYER IN THE GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!- Transcend
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Burgerking:I did give a TL;DR if you didn't want to read the whole post. I don't read long posts myself so I was nice to everyone and gave a TL;DR. Out of my 3 scumreads besides you {Hermie, rb} how many do you think are correct?
CCC: Why are you being so neutral today? You've only taken a stance on Jae today and even then it was pretty weak and I didn't like the way you voted him.
CloudKicker: Y r u a big stinky? When you're back can you give 2 scumreads and 2 townreads?
: You acknowledge that rb's posts are scummy, however you think he's scummy town. What about his posts strike you as "scummy town"
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Impoetic: Were there reasons that you voted Uzi besides him being the leading bandwagon? Who do you think is scum on the Uzi wagon if there is any?
Io: Am I a hard scumread for you or just you're paranoid about me? Because I really can't have you fosing me here.
JaeReed: What's your read on Impoetic at this current moment? Keep in mind: the only answers acceptable for this question are "Town" or "Scum".
mhsmith0: Do you agree with me that Jae/CCC are probably not a team? Are there any reads you have that I don't, and that I should take into consideration?
rb: You haven't proven to me that you've genuinely been progressing through the game. Give me some reads right now. I asked you before and I'm gonna ask you again.
VWXYZ: Still fos me? What about my vote was scummier than the rest? Also, I'm off of work for two days so I'm down to play you in the Jotto Tourney whenever.- Transcend
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In post 1023, JaeReed wrote:In post 1022, Transcend wrote:the only answers acceptable for this question are "Town" or "Scum".- Transcend
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of the 3 times i've been scum with you (you subbed out right as i subbed in to beeboy's fire and ice) does this feel like my scum game that you saw in those 3 games to you?- Transcend
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that post was about 200 posts ago, and you react to it just now?- Transcend
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actually
his posts do have content
they're just really bad and i feel they're not town motivated- Transcend
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I asked you a question and I want you to respond to it.In post 1064, Impoetic wrote:
OK well I am townreading jae but don't feel like I can convince anyone with my reasons since they're basically meta and tone IIRC. So there. I said it.In post 996, Io wrote:I'm also aware Impo didn't say they were town reading Jae, at least I haven't seen it, but that was the example I was using of common read scripting. It's just a way to get artificial town reads on scum partners without putting a whole lot of effort in. Hence why I said the next step would be for Impo to town read Jae.
I'm so sorry for not keeping up with this game and I'll try to catch up and be more active in the meantime.
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fair enough
so who do you wanna lynch then
if you don't wanna lynch jae, rb or ccc then......?????- Transcend
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Rank the 5 "lurkers" from who you think is most likely to flip scum to town
CHEAT SHEET!!!!!
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WHICH LEADS ME TO THINK THAT
I'm most probably wrong on at least one of them
Since I doubt all 3 scum would lurk so hard
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so you think rb not pushing anywhere makes him towny?
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1. bold your vote by using "Vote: Player" or by using "VOTE: Player"
2. ready for jotto?- Transcend
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EBWOP. Remove the spaces.In post 1097, Transcend wrote:1. bold your vote by using "Vote: Player [/b ]" or by using "VOTE: Player[/v ]"
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I don't know if CCC should be solid town btw, but if you SR Jae, I can see why you have that philosophy.- Transcend
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YepIn post 1131, Hermie wrote:Transcend are you in favour of a short day? And why?
Faster information
Game on another website. Me and V were in a tourney.In post 1140, CCC wrote:
Might I enquire as to what 'jotto' is?In post 1097, Transcend wrote:2. ready for jotto?
UhIn post 1146, Impoetic wrote:In post 1086, Transcend wrote:Rank the 5 "lurkers" from who you think is most likely to flip scum to town
CHEAT SHEET!!!!!
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Didn't you SR rb? This implies you don't and your 3 scumreads are bk/cloud/hermie.In post 1087, Transcend wrote:All 3 of my scumreads are in your lurker pool btw.
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