Open 656- Tit For Tat - Endgame

[ironstove]

Clarifying #2, it assumes there is a CC to the claims for town PRs, then we have a place to start in building further associations and such. And also mafia don't have the ability to plan for this action because of no day-chat so we are really putting the squeeze on them and I think shitcans playing town (cough FA) have basically allowed the mafia to coast up till now

[ironstove]

Also, I think people should be unvoting if they're town. It's literally autism to park your vote on someone in mylo, Sheer FUCKING autism.

[TwiszTed]

Also, I think people should be unvoting if they're town. It's literally autism to park your vote on someone in mylo, Sheer FUCKING autism.

Using autism as an insult is no better than using retardation as an insult.

Stop it.

[ironstove]

Alright, walk me through your mentality in parking your vote on someone you aren't sure is mafia in mylo?

[ironstove]

After you do that, please share your thoughts on popcorn claiming.

[ironstove]

And he's gone.

[TwiszTed]

Alright, walk me through your mentality in parking your vote on someone you aren't sure is mafia in mylo?

Let's do some math.

There are nine players alive.

There are four mafia.

Farside has two votes.

Unless both Infinity and I are scum, scum can quicklynch for the win.

They haven't done that yet.

Ergo, either both Infinity and I are scum, or... Farside is scum.

Need a calculator?

[TwiszTed]

After you do that, please share your thoughts on popcorn claiming.

Just be careful the kernels don't get stuck in your teeth.

That can be annoying.

[ironstove]

Alright, walk me through your mentality in parking your vote on someone you aren't sure is mafia in mylo?

Let's do some math.

There are nine players alive.

There are four mafia.

Farside has two votes.

Unless both Infinity and I are scum, scum can quicklynch for the win.

They haven't done that yet.

Ergo, either both Infinity and I are scum, or... Farside is scum.

Need a calculator?

There are 6 players alive and there are 2 mafia left. LOL. What the fuck?

[ironstove]

Alright, walk me through your mentality in parking your vote on someone you aren't sure is mafia in mylo?

Let's do some math.

There are nine players alive.

There are four mafia.

Farside has two votes.

Unless both Infinity and I are scum, scum can quicklynch for the win.

They haven't done that yet.

Ergo, either both Infinity and I are scum, or... Farside is scum.

Need a calculator?

There are 6 players alive and there are 2 mafia left. LOL. What the fuck?

[ironstove]

Also, I think people should be unvoting if they're town. It's literally autism to park your vote on someone in mylo, Sheer FUCKING autism.

[ironstove]

Alright, seriously though, stop derailing can we please have a discussion about the popcorn mass claim? I think it's the highest EV play for town FMPOV and I don't see a reason why we shouldn't be doing it, and if those of you think we shouldn't be doing it and are town then please bring fourth your concerns so that we can have a discussion.

[ironstove]

Yea, I can now totally understand why hark and FA wanted to replace out of this game LMAO.

[TwiszTed]

Also, I think people should be unvoting if they're town. It's literally autism to park your vote on someone in mylo, Sheer FUCKING autism.

Reported to the site mods since you want to continue breaking site rules.

[farside22]

Look at that scum 180 degree turn around.
Fascinating.

What does scum stand to gain with a read flip on you two posts apart?

Easy wagon to jump on vs the hard one

They wouldn't have known that two posts earlier?

No.
I say this bluntly because I was in a game where scum made weak attacks and quickly change when it goes no where.

Tell me why this is a big to do from day 1?


Mass claim talk:
Yes we should. Not sure why eager is saying no since he's been outted.
It narrows down the pool over players who are left.
We have a better chance of winning for the follow (1) vig doesn't shot the other pr who is confirmed town.
With 6 players alive you go from 5 players to analysis (not including yourself as a vt) to 3 player, meaning I would know 2 are scum left of the 3 players that in the game.

So example eager is vig. I'm town reading FP, so currently there is Ted, ironstone and Infinity I see as scum if 1 of the 3 claim a PR. I know the other 2 are scum.

[TwiszTed]

Look at that scum 180 degree turn around.
Fascinating.

What does scum stand to gain with a read flip on you two posts apart?

Easy wagon to jump on vs the hard one

They wouldn't have known that two posts earlier?

No.
I say this bluntly because I was in a game where scum made weak attacks and quickly change when it goes no where.

You can't really say their attacks went nowhere if they changed their vote two posts later...?

I'm not understanding you at all.

[eagerSnake]

My mind's telling me no

But my body (gut) is telling me to vote FancyPants

[ironstove]

My mind's telling me no

But my body (gut) is telling me to vote FancyPants

Let's discuss the mass claim first before we move forward with voting. I would love a popcorn claim, it's mylo, what advantage is there to hiding PRs at this point in the game?

[eagerSnake]

If we don't mass claim it means that if we lynch the rolecop the backup role cop may potentially get a result which would clear someone or guilty someone.

Otherwise if we do mass claim the jailkeeper will know his identity and will surely kill him and jail the vig, assuming that scum can use both actions.

[ironstove]

I don't believe scum can use both actions.

The last mafia can't perform a PR and NK simultaneously.

[ironstove]

Mafia powerroles cannot kill AND use their action in the same night.

Now, are you convinced we should mass claim?

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Tit_for_Tat

[ironstove]

Also, I think people should be unvoting if they're town. It's literally autism to park your vote on someone in mylo, Sheer FUCKING autism.

Reported to the site mods since you want to continue breaking site rules.

Which rule did I break? oh, and please clarify what you mean by there being 9 players in the game. Looks like you're not even paying attention yet you're trying to guide the town on what actions to take?

[ironstove]

I got my top scum read on who I'd like to lynch today, but I really want to convince you all that mass claiming beforehand is the right move, I'm already prepared for expected responses from each player, so if you believe I'm town, I'm pretty sure this is the optimal play here.

[Plotinus]

Official Vote Count 3.02

Lynching

With 6 votes in play, it takes 4 to lynch.

Fire Assassin

(L-3): farside22

farside22

(L-2): Infinity324, TwiszTed

Not Voting

(3): FancyPants, eagerSnake, ironstove

Mod notes: Hi, I'm the backup mod! TwiszTed is the new Harkonnen97! Ironstove is the new Fire Assassin!

If by autism you meant something other than "awesome and delightfully Plotinus-like", apologise to your fellow players and do better next time.

I'll see about getting editing powers for this thread so I can update the OP.

Deadline: (expired on 2016-11-23 14:00:00)

[FancyPants]

I'd be willing to popcorn claim. What would the order be?

I'd like:
Ironstove
Farside
Twisted
Infinity
Myself
Eager (If still necessary)