Mini Normal 1843 - Endgame

[Hoopla]

No they don't. What about it?

i felt weird following jack onto this wagon, but if sotty is scum, he's probably town...

...so all's well that ends well

[Creature]

Guess this is how Hoopla plays.

[goodmorning]

except the point, as scum, is not to get caught...

Well yes, but the point is also to get town lynched.

There is risk involved in not accepting town lynches when then materialise, as you often don't get townread for moving the votes elsewhere, and just increase personal risk (and on your partners) for no reason. You have to be reasonably sure you'll look good from putting yourself in the spotlight in order to do it. Otherwise it's easier to sit back and accept the sacrificial lamb the town has offered up for you.

Except everyone understands Town can be wrong? Sometimes a gentle whiteknight is a great strategy as Scum, for instance.

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Guys I just want to point out that our CLAIMED MASON

ISN'T DOING SHIT

.

BUT OH YEAH, HE'S TOTES A REAL MASON ALRIGHT

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I'm having this feeling MariaR is gambiting, not sure why.

Tell me what gambiting is again please I've heard it so many times and the tldr I get from it is making a stupid play.

No, you've got the right definition there.

It's making a play that's "so stupid it just might work!"

Hey creature why do you clear gm again?

Because I think GM is way different to Newbie 1683.

I play very differently as an IC...

(And absolutely garbage as Scum IC)

TwoFace nightkill directly points to her.

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[goodmorning]

what is happening

[BlackVoid]

TwoFace nightkill directly points to her.

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[Hoopla]

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[I Am Innocent]

So what changed between these posts?

I had a similar conversation just recently...

I still think Rask and Maria are good people of the town. So, of all your reads I'd be most inclined to lynch Sotty, but that would probably just be based on the claim alone which sounds fishy to me. I really think she claims a largely unprovable decent value PR there 90% of the time as scum and almost never VT. She obviously always claims Tracker as town Tracker, but now that I think about it, given we probably have two mason claims, there's likely only one or two other town PR slots, but there's three scum slots remaining, and since she claims something like this as scum almost always, it's actually more likely this claim comes from scum just from the number of scum left vs. number of PR's left.

Any your read on me? Seemed like you were leaning town by that post, what changed?

[I Am Innocent]

hoopla, full reads list please?

[Hoopla]

The Hoopla Reposting Service hard at work

Hoopla who are your top scumreads right now

Others I'd be willing to vote today would be goodmorning, IAI and now also Sotty if it gets off the ground.

I don't know if a team within those four reads looks viable, as the game is still a bit too big for me to get into PoE mode, but yeah.

voting with people I think are town has been a key factor in my votes.

Who are your strongest townreads that you are trying to vote with and who are weaker townreads?

Maria and Rask are those I'm voting with, although you're probably my strongest town read at the moment, so like I said, I'd probably vote with you on a Sotty wagon if it started up.

Victor is likely town.

I think Cloudkicker is loltown, although I expect I will never know for sure either way with him as I simply don't understand how he thinks. With others there is always the promise of them revealing themselves later in the game, but Cloudkicker less so.

The only player I didn't mention for town or scum reads was Creature, so lets slap him in the middle.

[mhsmith0]

VictorDeangelo has requested replacement.

[Creature]

The only player I didn't mention for town or scum reads was Creature, so lets slap him in the middle.

That means I can now win with town or scum?

Got it.

[goodmorning]

if i see anyone beyond this point trying to argue that nightkill analysis is efficacious i'm voting them



fuck actually trying to win, this is way more important

[Sotty7]

Hey I'm here but at this point I don't think it matters. Any questions for me I'll answer but I think we're beyond that point right now.

[Sotty7]

When does deadline actually hit?

[Sotty7]

Ah okay Friday, for some reason I thought it was going to be tomorrow at 1pm. That's a little more time at least

[Sotty7]

Cloud are you voting Rask because she voted you and that's it?

What do

you

think of Rask? You started off D2 by voting him. Did you change your mind on him?

Nope, I still think he is scum. I have zero traction right now so anything I do falls on deaf ears.

Did anyone play Dragon Age mafia btw?

I played the actual game, does that count?

So what changed between these posts?

About 500 game posts and Hoopla becoming a legit lynch option. Come IAI, that's just lazy.

[MariaR]

The twoface nightkill doesn't point to scoty at all Twoface was well townread and it's a kill that seems to risky for scum scotty

[MariaR]

SCUM HAS THERE **** SO FAR UP ALL YOUR ASS WERE GONNA LOSE THIS

[CloudKicker]

You guys are seriously fucking morons

[CloudKicker]

@bv insteand of overjustifying your vote on a pr claim, as if you knew she would flip track, why dont you just try to find the 2 other mafia if youre right on sotty? This pr lynch is complete garbage suboptimal trash play

[MariaR]

Cloud for once I agree with you this is new

[CloudKicker]

Cloud for once I agree with you this is new

Nah, you tr her, i just think lynching outisde a fucking beliavable setup-wise claim is non-sens. Mafia is likely using town's fos on town to just get this lynch, grey also hard tr sotty if i remember

[CloudKicker]

i just think not lynching outside a fucking...**

[MariaR]

No one has made a solid case or anything for me to even look at it's just a "oh scoty is scum" jack needs death and then we move on

[CloudKicker]

I made a big ass post about rask and she just ignored me and didnt project town to me even once in our exchange, shes a way better lynch