Open 656- Tit For Tat - Endgame

[ironstove]

iron, why are you completely ignoring the reason I'm scumreading you?

Why would you feign such shock and disbelief when you didn't know how many people were dead when you replaced in, either?

This as well seems interesting. TwistedTed is scum reading my slot because I asked him how he could not know how many players are alive in the game. He says I made the same mistake, which is true, however I replaced into the game LONG after he did, so the fact that he was still running on the game believing that there were 3+ more players in the game than there actually were was an interesting... mistake. I wouldn't really scum read him for this, but his push on me that I must be scum because I called him out for making this mistake feels rather weak, and tbh it's really reaching FMPOV.

I think as scum the smart move would be to have just backed down and push the farside lynch assuming she is town, but instead I read this as fearful preparation in the situation that the farside lynch doesn't go through, then he will have to try to push a scum read on me instead, and his reasoning will be 'I scum read you because:'

Alright, walk me through your mentality in parking your vote on someone you aren't sure is mafia in mylo?

Let's do some math.

There are nine players alive.

There are four mafia.

Farside has two votes.

Unless both Infinity and I are scum, scum can quicklynch for the win.

They haven't done that yet.

Ergo, either both Infinity and I are scum, or... Farside is scum.

Need a calculator?

There are 6 players alive and there are 2 mafia left. LOL. What the fuck?

This is fake as hell because...

Hey host, can you please update the OP with the dead/alive list? I got hella confused I didn't realize we're in mylo (?)

Still reading the game.

... he had the same problem when he replaced in.

Scumreading iron for the second.

Btw, I didn't bother to respond at the time because the post seemed like a waste of my time, but just to clarify, I called you out because A. I made the post to ask about player correction BEFORE you made this post, so it's interesting that you would STILL not know how many players are in this game. Hence I bolded and asked how you could still make this error after A. I asked the host to correct it and B. You were in the game for as long as you were.

Scum reading me for asking you how you could make this error? That doesn't seem like a good reason at all. And you still never answered my question BTW

[Infinity 324]

I think you're town and voting the only other town out of the 3 of us :/

[ironstove]

UNVOTE:

Can you provide me a compelling reason on why farside/twistedted are scum?

[ironstove]

UNVOTE:

[ironstove]

Or better yet, why you're town ? How did you come up with hark as obv town? I read that in your ISO and I never understood that, you and gamma both have hark as obv town.

[ironstove]

I will agree that farside not answering your questions earlier in the last 2 pages is odd though. It's making me reconsider my reads.

[Infinity 324]

Bleh ok. With the hark thing it was just his attitude and he seemed to be trying to scumhunt without putting in that much effort, which is quite uncommon for scum. But there was that post I asked him about where he asked people to reconsider their townreads on him and check out a game where he played similarly as scum. I'll be completely honest, I didn't read that ISO, but it still bothered me quite a bit because I couldn't really think of a town reason for saying that. Seems more like a scum gambit for towncred. Then he didn't answer the question and replaced out. Since then, twisted has done nothing town. Farside, at least today, had not done any real scumhunting and has refused to answer my simple question which seems like an effort to pick a fight and generate meaningless content.

I'll do some more research and try to find actual evidence to support my PoE but do realize that PoE is my main reason for thinking that's the scumteam.

[Plotinus]

Official Vote Count 3.04

Lynching

With 6 votes in play, it takes 4 to lynch.

farside22

(L-2): Infinity324, TwiszTed

Infinity324

(L-3): farside22

Not Voting

(3): FancyPants, eagerSnake, ironstove

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[Infinity 324]

While it's true that I haven't put that much effort into this game, I think you can tell the difference between my lack of effort and twisted's.

[ironstove]

Bleh ok. With the hark thing it was just his attitude and he seemed to be trying to scumhunt without putting in that much effort, which is quite uncommon for scum. But there was that post I asked him about where he asked people to reconsider their townreads on him and check out a game where he played similarly as scum. I'll be completely honest, I didn't read that ISO, but it still bothered me quite a bit because I couldn't really think of a town reason for saying that. Seems more like a scum gambit for towncred. Then he didn't answer the question and replaced out. Since then, twisted has done nothing town. Farside, at least today, had not done any real scumhunting and has refused to answer my simple question which seems like an effort to pick a fight and generate meaningless content.

I'll do some more research and try to find actual evidence to support my PoE but do realize that PoE is my main reason for thinking that's the scumteam.

I'm referring to this post

No one has me "pocketed" since no one has had the chance to. Fancy is obvtown. Yuria is obvtown.

Hark is obvtown.

These are facts.

I love how you don't consider that I could be scum.

Why is hark obv town from your perspective when you wrote this post?

[TwiszTed]

TwistedTed is scum reading my slot because I asked him how he could not know how many players are alive in the game. He says I made the same mistake, which is true, however

I replaced into the game LONG after he did

, so the fact that he was still running on the game believing that there were 3+ more players in the game than there actually were was an interesting... mistake.

Liar. 18 posts is not LONG after.

[ironstove]

Fair point, I consider a day to be a long time, so I guess it's all relative.

[ironstove]

However, my main point still stands that scum reading me for asking you that question is rather weak, and you still haven't answered my question regarding how you still made that error after I pointed it out to the moderator?

[ironstove]

Actually, that's a moot point, I'd rather you just convince me that you're town.

[FancyPants]

I think our best option is to vote for Ted and take it from there. If he isn't scum then town got outplayed fair enough. Farside + Ted look fairly likely to me at this point, but I'm more sure of the Ted slot.

[Infinity 324]

Bleh ok. With the hark thing it was just his attitude and he seemed to be trying to scumhunt without putting in that much effort, which is quite uncommon for scum. But there was that post I asked him about where he asked people to reconsider their townreads on him and check out a game where he played similarly as scum. I'll be completely honest, I didn't read that ISO, but it still bothered me quite a bit because I couldn't really think of a town reason for saying that. Seems more like a scum gambit for towncred. Then he didn't answer the question and replaced out. Since then, twisted has done nothing town. Farside, at least today, had not done any real scumhunting and has refused to answer my simple question which seems like an effort to pick a fight and generate meaningless content.

I'll do some more research and try to find actual evidence to support my PoE but do realize that PoE is my main reason for thinking that's the scumteam.

I'm referring to this post

No one has me "pocketed" since no one has had the chance to. Fancy is obvtown. Yuria is obvtown.

Hark is obvtown.

These are facts.

I love how you don't consider that I could be scum.

Why is hark obv town from your perspective when you wrote this post?

Yeah he probably shouldn't have been. See, I'm a sucker for certain characteristics that I perceive to be towny but can sometimes just be playstyle things. For example hark didn't care much about appearance and was quite flippant and those things usually read very town to me. (I also townread him for other things, like the way he seemed to be scumhunting while not putting in a ton of effort, but yeah). Anyway, this is something I've been thinking about since I realized eager was the vig, and I realized that it could've just been part of hark's playstyle.

Thanks for reaching out to me anyway.

And yeah I'd vote ted too

[farside22]

Here's what I have issue with infinity is he just reads to be twisting something I said into something I did not say at all.
If anyone other then Ted or inifinity think I stated infinity was jk (which I never did) van you explain how that is, because I'm not seeing it and why infinity whole attack just reads fake.

[Infinity 324]

Farside, I'm sorry, but I refuse to believe someone can be so mind-blowingly idiotic. I never said you said I was the JK. I said I want you to EXPLAIN YOUR FUCKING POST. I want you to explain how WHETHER I AM OR AM NOT THE JK is relevant to my swap from eager to you.

[eagerSnake]

I think our best option is to vote for Ted and take it from there. If he isn't scum then town got outplayed fair enough. Farside + Ted look fairly likely to me at this point, but I'm more sure of the Ted slot.

Nah. Infinity + Ironstove is the scumteam

[Infinity 324]

I don't understand how anyone townreads farside at this point

[Infinity 324]

Eager, you're confirmed town. Scumhunt.

[FancyPants]

I think our best option is to vote for Ted and take it from there. If he isn't scum then town got outplayed fair enough. Farside + Ted look fairly likely to me at this point, but I'm more sure of the Ted slot.

Nah. Infinity + Ironstove is the scumteam

Infinity has actually read really town to me since he's replaced in. He's probably the last person I would vote.

[TwiszTed]

However, my main point still stands that scum reading me for asking you that question is rather weak, and you still haven't answered my question regarding how you still made that error after I pointed it out to the moderator?

It's not the fact you asked the question.

It's because you are calling me scum for doing the same thing you did.

If you were town, your thought process would acknowledge that town can do that... because you did.

But, you're scum so you paint me as scum for doing... what you did.

And I generally expect the op to be kept updated. No mystery there.

[Infinity 324]

Can you point out where you think iron was trying to paint you as scum?

[TwiszTed]

Can you point out where you think iron was trying to paint you as scum?

No. Read the game for yourself. I'm not doing your homework.