NY 198: Nexus is Now a New Normal Mafia (Game Over)

[Zachstralkita]

ok well you guys can chill this day just started

[Lil Uzi Vert]

What do you think about Drealm hammering? He was voting on policy if I recall correctly and it didn't really seem like he was too upset with 77 self voting but moreso at the fact that he had to bus.

wow, way to paint that how you want to see it!!!

I wasn't upset with the self vote at all (pine was, oddly, and his dichotomous stance as I see at at EoD is weird), because to me it makes things easy: self-voters must die. No way that shit escapes a hammer on my watch. The "if you're town replace now!" is weird to me, it should have been preceeded by "OMG if you're town unvote, if you're town you don't do that", but, it jumps to "replace now." In my experience if a player posts for a replacement, it's likely that other players will unvote very fast because of incoming doubts. My view of Pine is that he would have PL hammered himself, but why didn't he? As town you NEVER let that escape / give it a chance to undo. It could be nothing, but I found it off. and the WHAT THE FUCK feels like it could be a scum-buddy shock more than townie shock (I wasn't totally surprised to see that from kraska, it was kind of like "ohokay then, time to die!"

I killed that fucker hard with pleasure. It was simple. Uzi reading into it as they did is possibly telling.

Shadow's reaction after my hammer at first inclined me to think I hammered a scum-buddy, but does scum really say that? Maybe if they slip and press enter, but, calculated scum says nothing just so that they don't become a focal point about it the next Day. You can WIFOM that, but I'ma say, no, I don't think so in this case.

I'm more inclined to look at the votes off of kraska, it happened too fast and unexpectedly for there to certainly be busers. I'm looking at dave and Pine today. Dave is my preferred choice.

I'm having trouble understanding most of what you're trying to say in the first paragraph, could you rephrase? I still don't see a logical reason as to why you hammered without stating intent and letting her claim.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Anyways
VOTE: JarJar

Why?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I don't think Jar was trying to derail 77's wagon. I think he just took a misunderstanding way too far and ended up tunneling foolishly.

[Zulfy]

Kraska's self-hammer looks so much like someone frustrated that they are getting bussed.

That would obviously point to rb tho and I can't see him bussing two days in a row.

[Zulfy]

Self-vote*

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Nevermind Drealm, I understand now. After rereading I'm not sure if I believe Pine. How did you not see the VC but saw my question towards you about Gamma? My question was the second post of page 28.

[Zulfy]

hyper inactive on day1, comes into day2 "hey guyz let's kill the bussing scum!" right after it's suggested by Uzi. okay dood

Shadow had this stance during Day 1 twilight.

[Zulfy]

To clarify shadow wanted drealmerz dead before Day 1 ended it had nothin to do with Uzi like rb supposes here.

Either a mistake or misrepresentation both not so hot.

[Zulfy]

i can see no better lynch than shadow today - this slot isn't going to sort itself with anything less than a flip.

hyper inactive on day1, comes into day2 "hey guyz let's kill the bussing scum!" right after it's suggested by Uzi. okay dood

nice misrep

Dreamerlz whatever that username is needs death tomorrow.

i can see no better lynch than shadow today - this slot isn't going to sort itself with anything less than a flip.

hyper inactive on day1, comes into day2 "hey guyz let's kill the bussing scum!" right after it's suggested by Uzi. okay dood

nice misrep

Dreamerlz whatever that username is needs death tomorrow.

so you didn't read the game @ all but decided to latch onto the easy-target 'policy-lyncher' - even though he policy lynched someone self-voting and giving up, who also flipped scum.

yer, fuck off ur IQ is above 80 so you don't actually believe this is the best play for today

Ooh I missed this??
Fair enough yea nvm.

[Zulfy]

As far as mu vote on the manwhich is what I was looking for:

i also can't see you keeping an rvs vote for 28 pages

I wasn't bothered at all tbh, I was put off by the amount of crappy posts NAI posts in the thread and stopped reading after a point.

This attitude seems unreasonable

[drealmerz7]

ok well you guys can chill this day just started

yep, tis nice to get Shadow cleared early though and move on to other focuses

as I see it, there are scum on his wagon now trying to push him as the suspicious one, when it's like I said about the EoD and he wouldn't have done that as scum

uzi, glad you're following there, I was about to flipmyshit a little at you...still a little odd you weren't following all along, but...I'll forgive for now - I do expect better though and my FoS is on you.

Tell me more about what you think about pine, will you? anyone, really...

[Zulfy]

There's not really anything wrong with TF or Pine's early game play.

They lack conclusions and conviction, but anyone who thinks that's the only things that benefit town in the early game is simply wrong. A good early game often comprises mostly of questioning and simply interacting and getting interactions out of people.

How is pine doing any of those things

Some context^

Note that I'm posting a fuckton, but if you read my ISO you'll see that I pressured Pine about why he wasn't doing that.

And if you read my ISO, you'll see that I commented on the fact that you pressured him about why he wasn't doing something that you earlier said he was doing

You can also note that I never said Pine WAS saying of those things

GET THE FUCK OUT!!!

That's EXACTLY what you were doing with this post

Spoiler:

There's not really anything wrong with TF or Pine's early game play.

They lack conclusions and conviction, but anyone who thinks that's the only things that benefit town in the early game is simply wrong. A good early game often comprises mostly of questioning and simply interacting and getting interactions out of people.

People are being lambasted with accusations of being shit - that needs to stop from everyone. If something is scummy, fine. Don't just blanket someone as shit because it's not alignment related.

but I expected him to start and when he didn't - I asked him why and pressured him.

Why did you expect him to start?

Is there some reason you thought he was town? If not then why defend him?


VOTE: RB Sorry Trans, I think ur wrong here

Do you suppose this is some sort of scumslip JarJar, do you suppose rb is talking about Pine as if he knows for sure he's town?

You said in our first game together something similar about me and I was town and you were scum in that game.
I know you read rb as scum earlier also would just like a response from both rb and JJD regarding this.

rb you always just insult and pivot but do this please.

[drealmerz7]

@mod - VC please!

[rb]

do what please?

ur asking JJD a question not me :/

[Zulfy]

I bolded and enlarged the question you ignored

[drealmerz7]

gee, zulfy, and I already had you as one of the most towny! I was waiting for a good time to ask you how you felt about the early push on you, and now is a good time after that post of yours. that's not a question, I realize, sooo...hmmm...how about that early push on you?

[rb]

because id expect someone with a more reserved playstyle to eventually probe and prod.

[Zulfy]

My style gets people's goats sometimes, I've seen.
I don't mind it though, Uzi's read and rb's read will change if they are reasonable people. Twoface's probs won't but he doesn't seem very reasonable and that's not necessarily scummy in his case.

Uhh yea pretty much that.

Pedit: ok

[TwoFace]

Unofficially

Shadow - RB, tf, pine, zulfy, kts (l-2)
Dream - Shadow
Pine- dream
Jarjar - gamma

[rb]

i must be missing what you're trying to get at here. even if he was scum id expect that his style would have him start doing that because scum are trying to look town as well. me expecting that has nothing to do with alignment.

@Zulfy: so you don't think Shadow is scum or a reasonable lynch? How come?

[rb]

ok well you guys can chill this day just started

bro just sheep me to victory, shadow is 95% scum

[Gamma Emerald]

Does anyone wqnt to discuss how JJD was trying his hardest to derail the kraska wagon?

rb thoughts on this?

[rb]

Who's scum Zulfy?

P-edit: we investigate JJD and kill Shadow today. JJD is half lurking and ys his day1 play was potato-level stuff but town can fuck up. Maybe he really thought i was scum. Investigate/vig.

Zulfy is another investigate/vig.

All the non-commital weirdos are the prime investigative/vig shots.

[rb]

anyway i want zulfy's scumreads before i say anything else