NY 198: Nexus is Now a New Normal Mafia (Game Over)

[drealmerz7]

isee - it looks like the mod put crack in some PMs, downers in others, and even stupid pills in some others - I'm all clean though, thankfully

I've got some ginger tea I can make if any of you like, too, not only will it help balance you but it might help with the gas, because, phewwwww, there's a lot of wind kicking around and it stinks pretty badly in here

I'm doing this:

VOTE: Killthestory

for things like:

tbh transcend is somewhat on my kill list because their content isnt impressing at this point.

(I like his content a whole lot more than yours - a lot a lot.)

and:

I feel like genuinely trying to play to win and not doing my normal dumb shit, so like, don't distract me with your dumb shit. First off, rb is scum with TwoFace.

followed by lots of what I see as just that (as pointed out by TwoFace)

there's a whole pile of stinky to pick from of his

he's definitely a good place to start clearing the air

[drealmerz7]

I wouldn't say I necessarily LIKE it, I just like it a lot better than Killthestory's

I commented as such to point out to Kts and the rest that such a post was ironic, at least in m view

definitely not a "oooh I like transcend's posts" comment by any stretch

but, to answer the question "What do you like about Transcend's content? Are your reads similar to his?" apart from any of that ^

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not much in the way of content-mattering - I like that it is non-abrasive and to the point, I like that I can see his reads easily enough, I like that he's not playing like some other players in this game (I'm feeling a lot of "quickslaps" going around - mehh, to that) - my reads aren't similar to his at all

I really only have 1 read as of yet anyway, and my vote is there

I'd like more players to say more before the thread gets overrun by madness

"I KNOW EVERYTHING NOWWWWW DARRRRR!!!"

[drealmerz7]

no one's for sure scum - stinky content doesn't necessarily make for scum just as good content doesn't make for necessarily town - it's all about the live (seemingly live) dynamic in each specific situation/individual - he seems to be causing more contention than scum-hunting, what scum-hunting is there seems arbitrary and empty, like it's for show like the rest of his content

his motivation is to not allow us to generate any good reads and waste our time and energy on his shite

[drealmerz7]

same.

policy lynches are dumb and happen far too often. as well as town losses.

They do? I haven't seen a policy lynch in long time.

^ I've legit never seen a policy lynch either and I actually think they're good. lurkers stop lurking when they see town is srs bznz about lynching their asses

We PL on my HS for many reasons and they are a good thing. It demands town play better, it makes the game more fun and less a clusterfuck. It makes scum have a tighter game, it makes town have to actually work on making a case against someone.

It doesn't happen often because everyone knows and generally plays tip-top, but if you pulled half the shit that goes on on MS on my HS, you'd be dead in a heartbeat.

Team game = cooperation. Pine understands.

New players show up and do shit that is not culturally sound and we let them know, and they either adapt or leave. It's nice.

and i've regretted not policy lynching a couple times when some lurkerscumfuck or someone just trolling nonstop won the game as scum because no one wanted to 'policy lynch' when actually it's not policy, it's lynching a slot that's having zero pro-town impact on the game and that's as likely to be scum as town regardless of what anyone says. and if it's not, it's the only way people learn to stop being anti-town fucks

Yep. Preach it! Everyone should be thinking this way, imo. Everyone. Those who don't just want to play shitty so they can hide their scumness in shitty play when they draw scum. It's LAME.

catching up more...

[drealmerz7]

p-edit: pls don't answer for other people before they do, I have the bad habit of doing this but it's important that ppl give their own reasons for things or it becomes a clusterfuck to sort slots and especially cumbersome when trying to re-read the game with new information (from NK's, flips etc.)

this ^

I catch myself doing it sometimes when I feel it is more likely that what is going on is a genuine misunderstanding, and rather than it devolving into bickering because it becomes convoluted, sometimes it's good for another to step in. At their own risk of course! But it can be the pro-town thing to do, and as long as that is your motivation it should be readable as genuine rather than trying add to the fuckery.

jarjar you've got to understand I come from a different culture - 0 games are like this no my HS and I agree with pine. Let's clean this shit up and actually play mafia.

[drealmerz7]

jarjar, you sound like you're trolling

[drealmerz7]

gah

[drealmerz7]

you can feel it for yourelf...

later

[drealmerz7]

I grrrrred when I entered because I saw it right away

bit less effective threat when elves are involved

unless they're hiding in tree stumps with hatches ready to chop off your hands

[drealmerz7]

hatchets too!

[drealmerz7]

this voting log is a giant shitlog

ftfy

[drealmerz7]

probably scum on pine in those 4

[drealmerz7]

nn

[drealmerz7]

I generally like partial-wagon analysis. I find it very effective. It makes the pools smaller and motivations easier. Add associations of previous wagons, and, yeh. Don't underestimate the mid-Day wagon analysis. Ever.

[drealmerz7]

seriously cracked up out loud

[drealmerz7]

It's a guy at microphones right? poised to say...

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[drealmerz7]

Ego post from your backup mod

Oh hey Rach. Long time.

Awesome. I wake up to more shitposting.

I'd rather be an "insufferable cunt" who's playing the game with logic and discernable methodology than being an insufferable cunt without them, so critics can bite me.

Okay, it's time for the game to actually start. There's enough info to get the ball rolling now.

Townpile (all of these are weak reads, no particular order): Transcend, Gamma, JarJar, maybe RB, maybe Zach

Scumpile: Dave, KTS, maybe TwoFace

I'll put together a cogent case on Dave when I get home. Phoneposting makes quoting difficult

Man I almost started to warm to pine based on his argumentative stubbornness. But now all of a sudden he's gonna fall in line and give us a reads list?

What happened to letting your reads "grow gradually" and going "slow and steady" and making sure you have "solid leads" before being able to make reads on people?

I've been totally 100% with Pine while reading this thread and the back and forth with him and whatnot, but you can still form read lists and have a general placement of people in the spectrum (yes, it's a spectrum), especially at this point in the Day, you being like this about it is off / seems contrived to me.

[drealmerz7]

And no hes not
Every page is him hounding people with his reads so much so that the game now revolves around discussing his reads and little more

yep

and yep...annoying

this game is full of poop all over the floor, it's hard to find the meat

[drealmerz7]

RB you seriously need to lay off the energy drinks or whatever

I'm reading you as "town who thinks they're soooo good they just push push push push" because they've gotta be right somewhere VOTE WITH MEGUYS CMONNNNN!

top SRs are - Kts, liluzivert, dave, jarjar, zach

I have a few townleans actually and they are: transcend, zulfy, pine

since Kts seems to have lost interest (because they realized they were getting sr and cooled down hoping the heat would get off, and it did, is how I read it), I think my next most comfortable vote would be dave

[drealmerz7]

and rb, before you go off spouting how good you are and how we'd be right to listen to you...I heard you the first time

[drealmerz7]

Read on kraska drealmerz?

almost went in the townlean pile but not quite enough there

[drealmerz7]

that's not what we're asking, we're asking that you relax and work with everyone instead of bullheading ahead your agenda

we understand your position, obviously if what you say is true then you need to work on working with people to get them to follow you, rather than try to strongarm them

[drealmerz7]

logic, civility, calmness, full sentences that articulate your position so we can see your point of view

[drealmerz7]

fuck me its like you cant vote for a scumread unless the person leading the lynch agrees with your sensibilities or something. We're playing a game of lynching scum, npt a popularity contest

Not at all, and that you can't even conceive of my and other's issues with what you're doing is more evidence that you need to...layyyy off the energy drinks? it's like you can't process because you're brain is moving too fast to focus, I don't know.

you haven't been doing plenty of it, and what you have been doing of it has been distracted and made less valuable because of the rest of your ramblings

[drealmerz7]

no, I'm trying to help you see that it is harder to focus on the meat when you're spouting off on 20 posts a page cluttering everything and saying jack-shit

[drealmerz7]

its not unrealistic, 14day deadline is absurdly long.

most places use a 48-72hr deadline and yes i understand that isnt how it is here, but my point is there is already a metric FUCKTON of information to go off and get a good lynch

go play somewhere else then

[drealmerz7]

you're being distracting anti-town, I'm saying that is anti-town, it doesn't help scumhunt, it hurts, it's simple

[drealmerz7]

I'm not distracted, I said you're distracting. It's annoying and anti-town, I have the ability to cut through the shit and play, as you see my vote and content from earlier, but I'd rather there more meat and less shit, makes for a better game. See all this back and forth? It's cause YOU WON'T SHUT UP even slightly. It's poop on the floor, distracting from sniffing out the meat. Get it please.

[drealmerz7]

I'm done engaging with him, sorry for adding to distraction, I had to say my piece. Back to the game.

[drealmerz7]

in comes scum to encourage it...now that's content!

[drealmerz7]

that you can't even follow his progression is telling of how self-absorbed you are in your own shit

[drealmerz7]

UNVOTE: Kts
VOTE: kraska77

that's PL for me

[drealmerz7]

What do you think about Drealm hammering? He was voting on policy if I recall correctly and it didn't really seem like he was too upset with 77 self voting but moreso at the fact that he had to bus.

wow, way to paint that how you want to see it!!!

I wasn't upset with the self vote at all (pine was, oddly, and his dichotomous stance as I see at at EoD is weird), because to me it makes things easy: self-voters must die. No way that shit escapes a hammer on my watch. The "if you're town replace now!" is weird to me, it should have been preceeded by "OMG if you're town unvote, if you're town you don't do that", but, it jumps to "replace now." In my experience if a player posts for a replacement, it's likely that other players will unvote very fast because of incoming doubts. My view of Pine is that he would have PL hammered himself, but why didn't he? As town you NEVER let that escape / give it a chance to undo. It could be nothing, but I found it off. and the WHAT THE FUCK feels like it could be a scum-buddy shock more than townie shock (I wasn't totally surprised to see that from kraska, it was kind of like "ohokay then, time to die!"

I killed that fucker hard with pleasure. It was simple. Uzi reading into it as they did is possibly telling.

Shadow's reaction after my hammer at first inclined me to think I hammered a scum-buddy, but does scum really say that? Maybe if they slip and press enter, but, calculated scum says nothing just so that they don't become a focal point about it the next Day. You can WIFOM that, but I'ma say, no, I don't think so in this case.

I'm more inclined to look at the votes off of kraska, it happened too fast and unexpectedly for there to certainly be busers. I'm looking at dave and Pine today. Dave is my preferred choice.

[drealmerz7]

Ah, that explains the dissonnance I was getting from you, you didn't realize they put themself to L-1.

I'm not sure I believe that though because:

VC 1.04

Transcend (1):

Aeronaut

Aeronaut (1):

Shadow_step

Pine (3):

kraska77, davesaz, Zulfy

Killthestory (1):

drealmerz7

davesaz (2):

Pine, Gamma Emerald

kraska77 (6):

rb, Transcend, TwoFace, Lil Uzi Vert, Zachstralkita, Killthestory

rb (1):

JarJarDrinks

Not Voting:

None

With

15

alive,

8

votes to lynch.

The deadline is in (expired on 2016-11-29 23:15:34).

mod note

kraska77

is on

V/LA

until

November 21

.

VOTE: kraska I'm done honestly
Someone just hammer bc he's not going to shutup until I'm lynched
I have nth worth claiming so whatever

it's all on the same page all right there - 6 votes, 8 to lynch, self vote to L-1 "hammer me no claim", your reaction WHAT THE FUCK (shows awareness, which now you are saying you weren't aware)

[drealmerz7]

VOTE: Pine

[drealmerz7]

ok well you guys can chill this day just started

yep, tis nice to get Shadow cleared early though and move on to other focuses

as I see it, there are scum on his wagon now trying to push him as the suspicious one, when it's like I said about the EoD and he wouldn't have done that as scum

uzi, glad you're following there, I was about to flipmyshit a little at you...still a little odd you weren't following all along, but...I'll forgive for now - I do expect better though and my FoS is on you.

Tell me more about what you think about pine, will you? anyone, really...

[drealmerz7]

@mod - VC please!

[drealmerz7]

gee, zulfy, and I already had you as one of the most towny! I was waiting for a good time to ask you how you felt about the early push on you, and now is a good time after that post of yours. that's not a question, I realize, sooo...hmmm...how about that early push on you?

[drealmerz7]

i must be missing what you're trying to get at here. even if he was scum id expect that his style would have him start doing that because scum are trying to look town as well. me expecting that has nothing to do with alignment.

you had NO patience to allow for it to happen

while the expectation itself may be warranted, the annoyance at the expectation not being met was premature - it seems fabricated because it is so premature

[drealmerz7]

My style gets people's goats sometimes, I've seen.

oh, me too, absolutely more often than not!!! even among those I know !!!

so, no one that pushed you felt like scum trying to build a wagon on what they perceived was easy ML bait, like you may get sometimes for getting ppl's goats?

[drealmerz7]

actually Pine had made a bunch of long posts by that point i got annoyed, like at least 10-12. And they contained none of what I was looking for. That isnt premature

to me, at the pace I play, and feeling similarities in pine, it seems premature, still...especially with how fast you're going, you've got realize that the relative perspective is even farther off than what you should expect, probably

even so, to expect in itself and then hold hard to that without actually finding something scummy, is poor form, and you're either scum fabricating bullshit, or town trying to take a whiff of fresh-baked cookies while standing in the land fill...

[drealmerz7]

I'm not getting lynched today so I think you should stop being all upset by my style and focus instead on where the scum in the game are

??

who is talking about lynching you today? that can wait until tomorrow when after you implicate more scum-buddies

you said you weren't understanding something, I thought I understood it, I explained - trying to help fellow townies see the game clearer perhaps is all I'm doing - your resistance to anything other than your own agenda is...anti-town to say the least

[drealmerz7]

you also obviously think and reflect less

[drealmerz7]

hey, I'll admit shadow is pretty scummy, but, I don't get a full confident lynch read on him yet and a lot of it reads inexperience perhaps? what do you make of his EoD comment / think about my view of his comment?

Kts's move on him is wayyy more scummy than he's been today, imo.

KTS quit telling people how to play

I'm not patronizing, you asked a fucking quesiton, I answered it/tried to help, and you didn't like the answer so now you're whining, get over it yourself.

[drealmerz7]

I said pretty scummy, not really scummy...

you just don't understand how I play, and don't really care to explain it

everything is a potentiality when you *know* nothing - KTS has a higher scumread than shadow by far, that doesn't make either of them exclusive from doing scummy things in my view and moving up and down the scum-scale

[drealmerz7]

why do you think he said it? what is his motivation for saying it?

oh, c'mon! my vote looks awesome!! WHAM DEAD SCUM!!! I also agree it is likely that they seem annoyed because you were busing them, you see, and you grow more and more scummy as you post!

but, it's Pine's non-hammer that looks shitty to me

ahh, okay claim time from shadow, let's see what he's got...but ummm, this wagon gotta be scummy and a towny because, well, just look at it and the speed and...yeah let's hear the claim...

I need rope? you're crazy...

[drealmerz7]

Also just gonna say that I dont bus like that day1 as its completely pointless. Bussing is overrated and I much prefer to just control the lynch with good play. There's no way I lynch a scumbuddy like that day1, especially not kraska who is better in lategame and can solo carry a scumteam if needed.

Try harder.

seeeeeeee, if you actually take the time and address someone else's thoughts, it builds content and their read on you and everything...your "try harder" is silly, because what I did in making the comment was me trying, and it got a response that revolved around the issue I'm talking about and helped me form my read on you in regards to it...you are too ahead of yourself a lot

[drealmerz7]

^ right, exactly

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it's less the claim I'm interested in and more the lack of care about making a defense or a case for someone else or giving us anything useful to analyze after his death - I mean, he didn't even unvote me after, that's poor form!

all of THAT is scummy, sure, the commuter claim is mleh tooo, but I could believe it and if he'd show ummm, any effort I might be more forgiving

hammer inc.

VOTE: shadow_step

[drealmerz7]

don't visit me tonight if you're town...

[drealmerz7]

agree pine, too fast and vacant, nothing else to do with that L-1 claim though, so what ya gonna do? (join more games!)

[drealmerz7]

why don't you take your time and explain how you weren't "with it" yesterday, Pine?

[drealmerz7]

we're lynching Shadow, but your reaction to my hammer is so much worse than Shadow's, so I'm coming after you tomorrow...so you know...

rb, ya, I don't know how many times I try to convince players that the wagon is stalled where it is because it IS a scum wagon - it seems so obvious SOMETIMES (but even then I don't have the arrogant cocky ego you do, your ego is clouding your abilities, btw)

[drealmerz7]

woot!

[drealmerz7]

drealmerz7 is now

confirmed town

[drealmerz7]

elaborate zulfy?

I was going to congratulate doc, actually, damnit! soo busy today and tomorrow and next day

[drealmerz7]

it's certainly a thought worth keeping in mind, ppls

[drealmerz7]

Fallout 1+2 supremeness?

or the 3, NV, +4 pieces of poop?

[drealmerz7]

for LmKGuy, his avatar is Fallout derived

Fallout is a computer game series, 1+2 are classic RPGs of depth and integrity - totally awesome, some of the best video games ever made

3, New Vegas, and 4, are soul-less money-grabs of re-hashed IP that, imo, are blasphemous dishonorings of the originals that I wish were never created

[drealmerz7]

if you combine them (it's so hard for me to not) 1+2 are in the top 5 video games of all time for me (as 1 unit)

[drealmerz7]

yeh I'm not into any of those...

I can't remember the last bethesda game I liked...were there any?

I see bethesda and I run far away (:

[drealmerz7]

yeah the company is based there in maryland

[drealmerz7]

I feel the newer games put a fresh spin on the shooter genre.

3 was an okay shooter (it had some moments, if you didn't use VATS), but was pukage in my face because of all the blasphemy to Fallout (just was 'empty' - all of the stuff was there, but it had no soul, is the simplest way I can put it) - I mean I could go on and off about 3 and NV for a while but would prefer not...4 I never played but saw played and know about well enough to know that I will just stay away. Not that I was inclined before I saw gameplay or anything.

[drealmerz7]

I liked it initially, until I realized I was just playing an FPS and that was watering down the action and I stopped using it nearly as much (sure in instances it was super handy, especially when you were just like WTF is whatever.)

running backwards dropping fragmines while being chased by whichever were the worst radscorps was some of the most fun in that (especially when you run into raiders) - using VATS just spoiled all the fun!

I used it though, of course, and loved seeing the bodies splode slomo, but, still, gimicky, watered down FPSing for those not good at FPS, which, is fine, and, ya know, I get it/the appeal (hey, I played), just, meh, not for me. I sold my CE of 3 and NV ages ago for goooood bucks, they were good investments!!!

[drealmerz7]

hammertime? I can get down with the davekill, obvs

VOTE: daveszdsz

[drealmerz7]

might like to kill rb if dave itown but, we can talk about that tomorrow

[drealmerz7]

that might only be 6?

[drealmerz7]

hehe

hmmmm

[drealmerz7]

meh gamma hammer is okay by me

jarjar needed to sort himself for us sooner

think about it overnight while we rest

OH, btw, I was MACHO innocent child *beats chest*

[drealmerz7]

GG everyone. rb good performance!! but remember it is a team game and working with others and helping them see what you see is a huge aspect to playing this game well! It's a good thing I agreed with your reads or we would have been butting heads by playstyle a lot, and that can be not-fun when you're trying to cooperate. Anyway, well done, but keep those things in mind!

Cool setup, would have loved to see it unfold a bit wider, but, still, WELL DONE GIF!!!

Thanks very much for a good game!!!

[drealmerz7]

I've never smacked down the hammer with such ease! I kind of wish I'd done all 3, but, ehhh, let GE in on some of the fun, sure!

[drealmerz7]

ohyeah

I meant to tell you all I claimed in my first post

was wondering if anyone caught it but I doubted it