Mini Normal 1854: Game Over

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #4 (isolation #0) » Sun Nov 20, 2016 10:12 am

VOTE: TheseViolentDelights
obvious Aero alt

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #7 (isolation #1) » Sun Nov 20, 2016 10:31 am

Yeah this is one of the times where mastin may actually be right.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #11 (isolation #2) » Sun Nov 20, 2016 10:38 am

In post 9, TwoFace wrote:Mastin isn't playing

P.edit - I think statistics have been done for newbie games but idk about other games

Wish we knew if these read the role pm and replaced or never read them.

But his theory exists still

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #15 (isolation #3) » Sun Nov 20, 2016 10:41 am

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... sane_Tells
Tell #1

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #22 (isolation #4) » Sun Nov 20, 2016 11:49 am

In post 20, TheseViolentDelights wrote:
In post 4, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: TheseViolentDelights
obvious Aero alt
Who?

VOTE: Io

I didn't feel like typing

Aeronaut

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #27 (isolation #5) » Sun Nov 20, 2016 12:13 pm

In post 26, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:VOTE: havingfitz

You aren't getting away this time.

What happened?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #30 (isolation #6) » Sun Nov 20, 2016 12:21 pm

In post 28, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 27, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 26, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:VOTE: havingfitz

You aren't getting away this time.
What happened?
Nothing happened. I'm just participating in RVS.

No this is meta

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #43 (isolation #7) » Sun Nov 20, 2016 1:54 pm

Hm.
Ari's post doesn't really mean anything.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #46 (isolation #8) » Sun Nov 20, 2016 1:55 pm

Do you know him enough to say that?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #48 (isolation #9) » Sun Nov 20, 2016 1:57 pm

Wait you're new
Why are you so confident

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #54 (isolation #10) » Sun Nov 20, 2016 2:02 pm

You don't know site meta at all though
Why do you say that about Ari's statement?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #92 (isolation #11) » Sun Nov 20, 2016 4:42 pm

In post 74, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 45, TheseViolentDelights wrote:town does not come in heavy hinting their PR on their first post
In post 46, Gamma Emerald wrote:Do you know him enough to say that?
You know me well enough to gauge.
What is your take on all this?

None of this wishy-washy "doesn't mean anything" bullcrap plz.

I think you're someone who likes to troll. You'd totally do that as any role I feel.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #94 (isolation #12) » Sun Nov 20, 2016 4:48 pm

In post 91, Hiraki wrote:1) talking all of this shit that's getting us just about nowhere

What makes you say this?

2) you're suspicious of a question

I was too, I think many were

3) "I can see newb town" -> "TVD might be the optimal play for today"

Not mutually exclusive

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #97 (isolation #13) » Sun Nov 20, 2016 6:26 pm

In post 95, TheseViolentDelights wrote:
In post 61, FrankJaeger wrote:
In post 4, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: TheseViolentDelights
obvious Aero alt
I thought the same
why. Do I play like them?

Aero's sig has your username in it

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #101 (isolation #14) » Sun Nov 20, 2016 6:58 pm

Oh that's Shakespeare
Also he's saying though your play COULD be newbtown your actions make you a decent lynch

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #104 (isolation #15) » Sun Nov 20, 2016 7:00 pm

In post 103, TwiszTed wrote:
In post 101, Gamma Emerald wrote:Oh that's Shakespeare
Also he's saying though your play COULD be newbtown your actions make you a decent lynch
Why do you feel the need to explain another person's thoughts?

Because I interpret them differently than you.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #112 (isolation #16) » Sun Nov 20, 2016 7:24 pm

In post 111, TwiszTed wrote:
In post 104, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 103, TwiszTed wrote:
In post 101, Gamma Emerald wrote:Oh that's Shakespeare
Also he's saying though your play COULD be newbtown your actions make you a decent lynch
Why do you feel the need to explain another person's thoughts?
Because I interpret them differently than you.
Also, how do I interpret what he saying?

I'm interested in this answer, since i don't believe I commented on it.

You're likely interpreting it like TVD did: thinking it was a contradiction.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #179 (isolation #17) » Mon Nov 21, 2016 5:29 am

In post 119, TwiszTed wrote:
In post 95, TheseViolentDelights wrote:Not really, no. Aristo coming in and making it pretty obvious like that without giving away what the role is means that all we know is that he's a power role.
Precisely, and power roles have a shortened lifespan.

Faking a bp claim sounds nice if you ignore the possibility of a counterclaim or another protective claim that makes no highly unlikely.

Bottom line, scum claiming pr unprompted are suicidal, especially on day one.

That said, I think you actually believe this bad logic of yours, so a disagreement isn't worth a scumread.

VOTE: Gamma

Tell me more about what I think, Gamma. Why do I consider you scum?

Nice Burden of Proof, jackass.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #180 (isolation #18) » Mon Nov 21, 2016 5:30 am

In post 125, Eric Rasputin wrote:
In post 124, TwiszTed wrote:
In post 123, Eric Rasputin wrote:
In post 122, TwiszTed wrote:
In post 120, Eric Rasputin wrote:
VOTE: Lil Uzi Vert

Best bet for me ...
Why is Uzi scum?
Reading through the chat and based on my gut, I have a feeling its Uzi ... Although I have no evidence to support it ...
Don't be lazy. Gut is based on something. What is it?
His activity in page 2 and 3 .... He is ubiquitous, not too active but active enough .. That is scummy behaviour ... His analysis seems off, his analysis is not backed with proof ...

My next bet on Mafia would be Gamma and Twizted(you) .. Well, lets see how the game pans out ...

Im hosting a dethy on another forum and thats taking up most of my time ... Sorry if I was not active before

gdi did Hermie make an alt

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #181 (isolation #19) » Mon Nov 21, 2016 5:30 am

In post 130, Eric Rasputin wrote:Now, you're coming off as scummy lol ... There is a high probability that you're not scum ... The mod seems to make all the new players(as in the ones who started their account in Nov) all VT ... So, I dont think you're scum ...

what
That's not allowed in Normal Games

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #182 (isolation #20) » Mon Nov 21, 2016 5:31 am

In post 135, TwiszTed wrote:
In post 134, Eric Rasputin wrote:
In post 133, TwiszTed wrote:
In post 131, Eric Rasputin wrote:
In post 129, TwiszTed wrote:
In post 125, Eric Rasputin wrote:My next bet on Mafia would be Gamma and Twizted(you)
So Gamma is scum, and I'm scum bussing him on d1 for... what reason, exactly?
What does d1 mean ? Sorry for not knowing
day 1
Why wouldnt you scum buss? I do it all the time and it is a good strategy to keep the town off of me ... Manipulation is the way to go
On day one? When there is a plethora of town targets to push with no negative repercussions?

If you play like that as scum, you're bad.

That's why scum do it.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #183 (isolation #21) » Mon Nov 21, 2016 5:32 am

In post 142, TwiszTed wrote:
In post 140, Eric Rasputin wrote:Just because ... Sometimes you dont need a reason .. All my posts have a meaning and it helps me and not the team ... I am not a very good team player because my style is completely different from the others .... My job is to make my alignment win ... I'll do that even if I have to deceive my own alignment ... And I'm out .. Hope the KP comes soon
Been mulling this over, and yeah...

VOTE: Eric

Throwing out reads with zero backing.

As far as playing for yourself, that's all fine and good, I do the same. But that doesn't exempt you from responsible scumhunting.

Noted.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #184 (isolation #22) » Mon Nov 21, 2016 5:34 am

In post 150, Eric Rasputin wrote:Question: Can we role claim ?

yes but NOT NOW

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #185 (isolation #23) » Mon Nov 21, 2016 5:36 am

In post 161, Eric Rasputin wrote:ROFL .. I like how you guys change your vote so easily when a dark horse suddenly appears ... Too easy

I am a townie and not mafia ... Dont regret it when the KP comes out ... This is my first time playing here, do you really think a mod would make a newbie here a scum? I think not

I'm thinking of voting you just for this post tbh

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #186 (isolation #24) » Mon Nov 21, 2016 5:37 am

In post 174, TwoFace wrote:which player were you? Don't see your name.

LOL

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #187 (isolation #25) » Mon Nov 21, 2016 5:39 am

In post 178, havingfitz wrote: @Gamma...why question TVD's confidence? Seems like an
odd question. Would you prefer a meek self doubting player?

They stated an absolute and I didn't agree.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #193 (isolation #26) » Mon Nov 21, 2016 7:44 am

In post 192, Eric Rasputin wrote:You must like me a lot huh Gamma

No I don't you give me headaches

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #202 (isolation #27) » Mon Nov 21, 2016 9:24 am

Hm
Have you played face-to-face Eric?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #211 (isolation #28) » Mon Nov 21, 2016 9:50 am

OK
So the "newbies aren't scum" thing makes slight sense

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #223 (isolation #29) » Mon Nov 21, 2016 4:52 pm

@Aristophanes: I believe it was your trolliness that got you lynched in Normal Idea Mafia.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #226 (isolation #30) » Mon Nov 21, 2016 4:59 pm

In post 224, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 223, Gamma Emerald wrote:@Aristophanes: I believe it was your trolliness that got you lynched in Normal Idea Mafia.

You mean when I was quickltnched despite going along with the idea that I was a Jester??

I really wish I had been. That would have been amazing XD

Point taken though,

That was Great Idea
but good point there as well.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #233 (isolation #31) » Mon Nov 21, 2016 5:11 pm

In post 229, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 226, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 224, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 223, Gamma Emerald wrote:@Aristophanes: I believe it was your trolliness that got you lynched in Normal Idea Mafia.

You mean when I was quickltnched despite going along with the idea that I was a Jester??

I really wish I had been. That would have been amazing XD

Point taken though,
That was Great Idea
but good point there as well.
Hahaha right!

Hmm...maybe this is my fault after all!

Well said, Gamma.

I'm thinking about adding this to my sig.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #238 (isolation #32) » Mon Nov 21, 2016 5:32 pm

Yay new sig piece!
Now it's spoilered tho.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #243 (isolation #33) » Mon Nov 21, 2016 5:57 pm

In post 241, Hiraki wrote:
In post 237, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Gamma actually explained what I meant quite well. Not sure how you guys are misunderstanding anything but it happens I guess.
im glad you took someone else's response for your own

He explained it before he said this.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #246 (isolation #34) » Mon Nov 21, 2016 6:24 pm

Yeah looking back post 109 is horsecrap.
As for the deal with "newbies aren't scum": in the face to face I play you tap people a certain amount of times to determine their role (mafia, mason vigs, SK, VT). That means it's possible for the mod to do that sort of thing,

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #250 (isolation #35) » Mon Nov 21, 2016 6:39 pm

In post 248, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 246, Gamma Emerald wrote:Yeah looking back post 109 is horsecrap.
As for the deal with "newbies aren't scum": in the face to face I play you tap people a certain amount of times to determine their role (mafia, mason vigs, SK, VT). That means it's possible for the mod to do that sort of thing,
Why is it crap?

Previously you had stated TVD "might be the optimal play", indicating you scumread them.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #271 (isolation #36) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:52 am

In post 264, ScumDeersAreVeryTasty wrote:Hey everyone. I'm replacing Io.

You can call me Deer, SDAVT or simply VT.

Reading through the posts now.

whatup

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #273 (isolation #37) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 5:53 am

Oh my TwiszTed was a House alt.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #306 (isolation #38) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 1:25 pm

you admit it's filler

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #309 (isolation #39) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 3:23 pm

I would rather vote this rn than remain on a stupid RVS vote I'm not pushing.
VOTE: LUV

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #311 (isolation #40) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 3:26 pm

What.
YOU CLAIM AT L-1!
Hmmmm...

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #312 (isolation #41) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 3:26 pm

PARTNER NOW!

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #317 (isolation #42) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 4:59 pm

UNVOTE:

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #323 (isolation #43) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 6:33 pm

In post 321, Aristophanes wrote:VOTE: Gemerald
(Yes, I do this just to bug you)

I dislike the immediate demand for a partner claim. That is not good play and benefits scum.

Creeps, why are you not buying the claim?

I asked for a partner claim because if there is no partner we have caught scum.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #327 (isolation #44) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 6:38 pm

If the scumteam is 2 goons and a PR, he may have to check to see who the other goon is.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #328 (isolation #45) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 6:38 pm

In post 327, Gamma Emerald wrote:If the scumteam is 2 goons and a PR, he may have to check to see who the other goon is.

This was @Misa

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #329 (isolation #46) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 6:41 pm

In post 325, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 323, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 321, Aristophanes wrote:VOTE: Gemerald
(Yes, I do this just to bug you)

I dislike the immediate demand for a partner claim. That is not good play and benefits scum.

Creeps, why are you not buying the claim?
I asked for a partner claim because if there is no partner we have caught scum.
But ideal play is to let one of them die at night.

If someone else flips Mason, he is confirmed town. If he flips Mason, we have what is essentially an IC waiting to claim left over.

This way we gat neither. Literally no benefits to having Masons if they're out in the open.

Well the lack of a partner paired with the claim at L-2 was really strange to me.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #333 (isolation #47) » Tue Nov 22, 2016 9:13 pm

In post 332, Creeps20 wrote:
In post 321, Aristophanes wrote:VOTE: Gemerald
(Yes, I do this just to bug you)

I dislike the immediate demand for a partner claim. That is not good play and benefits scum.

Creeps, why are you not buying the claim?
Never do. Ever. I once doubted a proven jailor claim on TOS. I don't trust.

You're even worse than me in the situation that led to my first part of my sig.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #354 (isolation #48) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 8:10 am

I'm just going to say that outing a partner was what I felt was the most pro-town thing to do.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #360 (isolation #49) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 9:30 am

Havingfitz: pushing the masons before they claim is NAI. If you wanted to attack someone for doubting the claim then that would make more sense.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #369 (isolation #50) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:44 am

VOTE: havingfitz
With TwoFace on this. HF is pushing stuff that is not actually scummy.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #381 (isolation #51) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 4:09 pm

Like, I can straight disprove that all newbies get VT. I got cop my first game.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #384 (isolation #52) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 4:24 pm

Hm.
Looking at Deers I suspect him for:
Throwing shade on probstown Eric and then backing off
Pushing TF for poor reasoning

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #388 (isolation #53) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 4:29 pm

Yeah.
The fact Deers kept pushing Eric for that was very scummy.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #395 (isolation #54) » Wed Nov 23, 2016 4:46 pm

In post 392, ScumDeersAreVeryTasty wrote:
In post 384, Gamma Emerald wrote:Hm.
Looking at Deers I suspect him for:
Throwing shade on probstown Eric and then backing off
Pushing TF for poor reasoning
1. I never saw you calling Eric a probstown before and now you are saying he is a probstown. Like i said, I misinterpreted something and TF convinced me.
2. When did i pushed TF? I was asking for the reasons.

And btw, You are there trying to have your hands clean doing nothing until someone does something to keep the game going.

In post 388, Gamma Emerald wrote:Yeah.
The fact Deers kept pushing Eric for that was very scummy.
How was that scummy? And the fact that you pushed LUV to claim for simply trying to get rid of the random vote you had was scummy, actually.

1: I'm not sure if I did express it but the "newbies aren't scum" thing feels like a genuine townslip, as TF said.
2: your OMGUS accusation
3: what?
4: I kept seeing scummy things from LUV and was still on an RVS vote so I voted an actual scumread. Sorry, IIRC pushing people but not voting for them or at least expressing willingness to is a scumtell.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #410 (isolation #55) » Thu Nov 24, 2016 1:26 pm

I mean I'm kinda SRing Creeps too

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #435 (isolation #56) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:53 pm

I'm dead serious: if we end up not having a decent lynch at deadline I suggest we PL Creeps because his play will get in the way of the town.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #443 (isolation #57) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 9:21 pm

Meta is overrated

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #445 (isolation #58) » Fri Nov 25, 2016 9:44 pm

I think Deers is new anyways.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #465 (isolation #59) » Sat Nov 26, 2016 11:03 am

What has HF done that Eric has? Their play has been completely different.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #467 (isolation #60) » Sat Nov 26, 2016 11:08 am

Eric has been awkward in a very towny way. HF is pushing completely off-base topics and I see him as scummy for it.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #469 (isolation #61) » Sat Nov 26, 2016 11:14 am

Okay that makes more sense. I still feel what he is doing is scummy.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #472 (isolation #62) » Sat Nov 26, 2016 12:44 pm

I doubt we have a cop with masons.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #483 (isolation #63) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 10:16 am

Creeps has done nothing protown as I see it. I can get with this.
VOTE: Creeps20

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #485 (isolation #64) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 10:37 am

Well compared to fitz and Hiraki, his contribution is abyssmal. Throwing shade at conftown is incredibly antitown. While fitz is making bad accusations, I feel that Creeps just isn't playing with a townie mindset, meaning he is playing with a scummy mindset.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #496 (isolation #65) » Sun Nov 27, 2016 5:20 pm

So what you're saying is: since we know they're town now we have a higher chance of being scum because we pushed town? That's very bad logic but not inherently scummy.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #530 (isolation #66) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 5:58 am

My reasons for voting Creeps are that if he is scum he is using poor play as a smokescreen, and if he is town he is giving power to scum, especially by distrusting the confirmed masons.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #534 (isolation #67) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 7:49 am

In post 531, Vedith wrote:
In post 530, Gamma Emerald wrote:My reasons for voting Creeps are that if he is scum he is using poor play as a smokescreen, and if he is town he is giving power to scum, especially by distrusting the confirmed masons.
That's a stupid reason.
If he's town, you're giving scum power by voting him.
Maybe I don't understand you here?

Thoughts on Fritz / Hariki?

Scum would not want him dead. By distrusting the masons, he essentially removes their ability to avoid being lynched if we're in LyLo, as him + scum team equals majority. I don't want someone who could throw LyLo to survive for any amount of time. And there's still the possibility he's scum hiding under poor play.
I've already expressed I feel that fitz is scummy. Not sure on Hiraki.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #535 (isolation #68) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 7:52 am

OK just looking at Hiraki's last post I'm not very pleased by what he's saying. Specifically his ad hominem attack on TF.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #537 (isolation #69) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 8:28 am

I'd still prefer Creeps but I'll compromise on Hiraki

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #548 (isolation #70) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 12:00 pm

OMFG someone vig TF or fitz tonight so the wall posts will stop.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #554 (isolation #71) » Mon Nov 28, 2016 5:46 pm

You posted before you were replaced so you can still play.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #557 (isolation #72) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:54 am

In post 556, Vedith wrote:
In post 548, Gamma Emerald wrote:OMFG someone vig TF or fitz tonight so the wall posts will stop.
Why do you always try to look scummy Gamma?
Stop being dreadful.

Opinion on Fritz and TwoFace?

TwoFace looks town as shit so the fact you want him vigged is an alert.

It was a joke. I just want them to stop the constant back and forth wall posting.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #559 (isolation #73) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 2:10 am

In post 558, Vedith wrote:
In post 557, Gamma Emerald wrote:It was a joke. I just want them to stop the constant back and forth wall posting.
Fritz and TF opinion?

Fitz scummy TF towny

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #573 (isolation #74) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 8:24 am

It's not just policy: I believe Creeps has a chance of flipping scum

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #576 (isolation #75) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 8:32 am

OK
I'd prefer if you'd stop discrediting it by calling it a policy lynch though.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #578 (isolation #76) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 8:37 am

In post 577, TwoFace wrote:who else besides creep would you lynch today and why gamma?

p.edit - but that's what it is. voting a person for playing poorly is what policy lynches were invented for

Fitz or Hiraki.
I understand it's a policy lynch, but the way you talk about feels like discrediting.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #581 (isolation #77) » Tue Nov 29, 2016 1:48 pm

I think it's better for me to shift rn, I AM scumreading Hiraki, and if it's a PR we want to have some time to switch
VOTE: Hiraki

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #629 (isolation #78) » Thu Dec 01, 2016 4:27 pm

In post 628, TwoFace wrote:What's the end game for creeps if he's scum? He's basically setting himself up to be lynched. You really think scum decided to be completely useless and hope town lets him get away with it? Really?

Pretty much.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #652 (isolation #79) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 3:09 pm

Why is Deers scum?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #659 (isolation #80) » Fri Dec 02, 2016 3:32 pm

In post 658, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 657, MathBlade wrote:VOTE: Unvote

Need to read the thread and catch up tomorrow. I am at game night with friends.
Yoooooo!

We town together? Let's get along this time!

TBH I should be saying this.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #663 (isolation #81) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 3:16 am

In post 660, MathBlade wrote:@Aristophanes I am town dunno about you but I hope so.

@Gamma yeah

Honestly we both could. Aristophanes called my scumreads wtf worthy (I don't remember if you were scum or not sorry)
And last game with Gamma I was scum.

So here is to a better game for all since I am town.

Just got home from game night and super late just wanted to say thanks for the well wishes.

I was referring to Watch Dogs Blitz.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #669 (isolation #82) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 6:21 am

Why would I be pushing for my buddies lynch when it's extremely easy to call him bad town?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #672 (isolation #83) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 6:34 am

Yes I'm voting Hiraki NOW but I WAS voting Creeps.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #676 (isolation #84) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 6:42 am

In post 674, MathBlade wrote:Day one lynches on scum are fucking hard.Compromises will almost always end up in town D1. Compromising from Creeps to Hiraki looks like an excuse to not bus.

I'll vote Creeps if it shows support.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #678 (isolation #85) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 6:46 am

In post 677, MathBlade wrote:
In post 676, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 674, MathBlade wrote:Day one lynches on scum are fucking hard.Compromises will almost always end up in town D1. Compromising from Creeps to Hiraki looks like an excuse to not bus.
I'll vote Creeps if it shows support.
Creeps has exactly the same amount of support as Hiraki. So again why are you compromising to Hiraki. More so with my vote. Are you even paying attention to vote counts or just determined to not vote your buddy?

I haven't been paying attention to vote counts.
VOTE: Creeps

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #688 (isolation #86) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 6:56 am

In post 684, TwoFace wrote:Hiraki is scum. Fitz is scum. Those are good vows.

Creeps is nothing. He's a policy lynch. We learn nothing from his lynch.

We learn plenty. I feel you have a decent chance of being scum with him.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #694 (isolation #87) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 7:00 am

In post 692, MathBlade wrote:
In post 689, TwoFace wrote:Well you didn't give a reason so idk why you're voting him. I don't really care though cause I'm 99% sure creeps is town.

I did. Are you going to say I am policy voting?

Gamma is scum I agree. He pays attention in town games.

He didn't say I was scum.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #698 (isolation #88) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 7:01 am

Hm. MathBlade has tunneled me as town before but this feels different.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #702 (isolation #89) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 7:17 am

I think Math is town currently. His desire to find an early scumteam looks like Watch Dogs Blitz.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #706 (isolation #90) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 7:52 am

Ok why are you scumreading me Hiraki?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #715 (isolation #91) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 9:48 am

In post 714, MathBlade wrote:
In post 702, Gamma Emerald wrote:I think Math is town currently. His desire to find an early scumteam looks like Watch Dogs Blitz.
E changing eirs avatar is new. What prompted it?

There's a thread where you can request profile edits.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #720 (isolation #92) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 11:32 am

Creeps I'd prefer if you claimed now since we're having trouble assembling votes rn.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #723 (isolation #93) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 11:38 am

In post 721, MathBlade wrote:
In post 720, Gamma Emerald wrote:Creeps I'd prefer if you claimed now since we're having trouble assembling votes rn.
Fuck that. Stop fishing. I wish I had a gun right now.

I legit do not care what you think. This town is like a chicken with it's head cut off so claiming now, instead of when/if he reaches L-1, is more optimal so town has more time to switch if he's a PR.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #726 (isolation #94) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 12:03 pm

Math, I think he should claim anyways. I'll explain why after he claims.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #727 (isolation #95) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 12:03 pm

In post 725, TwoFace wrote:
In post 724, MathBlade wrote:Bullshit. Absolute fucking bullshit.

A PR claim is never a reason not to lynch. A PR claim must be supported with how they played and rationalized. You are just excusing your unvote of CreepyScumLord early. Look at 1800 town did the same fucking thing.

I will not let you wiggle your way out of this as scum need rope and your fishing skills are so damn obvious you have a bigger sign than a local Bass tournament. So just stawp.
This is why you're scum. No way town makes this post.

What makes you say this?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #730 (isolation #96) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 12:09 pm

OK. I was mainly asking why you thought the post was scummy as I had a meta townread on him.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #731 (isolation #97) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 12:09 pm

In post 729, MathBlade wrote:
In post 728, TwoFace wrote:You don't lynch a claimed pr day 1 ever. The risk of being wrong is too great. You also make mafias job easier. Besides there are still plenty of people who play shitty as a pr to avoid being NKd. It's terrible but happens on this site still.
No. you do not give scum outs ever. I hate this about MafiaScum. I have used it to my advantage and won. If someone is claiming you analyze the claim and see if it is valid. I say this because I have used it and I want MS to improve.

That's what I intend to do.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #751 (isolation #98) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 6:34 am

Hey! I've been pushing Creeps! And Hiraki! That's blatant misrep!

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #757 (isolation #99) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 7:44 am

Yo btw
Can we fucking speedlynch hivingfitz? I'll just state that he has a theoretical vote from me currently.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #760 (isolation #100) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 7:53 am

Math if you help me on fitz I will let you lynch me tomorrow ok?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #765 (isolation #101) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 8:18 am

In post 763, MathBlade wrote:
In post 762, TwoFace wrote:
In post 761, MathBlade wrote:
In post 760, Gamma Emerald wrote:Math if you help me on fitz I will let you lynch me tomorrow ok?
I don't barter with scum.
There is no way you're this bad. I'd bet anything that even if I'm wrong about creeps (which I seriously doubt I am) there is absolutely no way gamma is scum with him.

If you're town please for the sake of this game and my sanity do better.
Why? I have pointed out several times where Gamma is begging and pleading and trying to give Creeps outs.

I'm not the one trying to give Creeps outs, that would be TwoFace (although I don't really regard it as scummy)

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #766 (isolation #102) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 8:19 am

I'm technically on both the fits and creeps wagon
I maintain theoretical votes for when two people are both good lynches and we near deadline

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #773 (isolation #103) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 9:09 am

In post 769, MathBlade wrote:
In post 665, MathBlade wrote:
In post 655, Joshz wrote:
In post 6, Io wrote:VOTE: Wyv

Statistically one of those replacements is scum.

In post 10, Io wrote:I mean you have to take into account the reason for replacement.
Replacement for inactivity is very different from replacing out.
Theoretically the former is however many scum to town there are.

In post 12, Io wrote:Of which is a rd of the player list that replaced out so yeah statistics show 1's probably scum.

In post 19, Io wrote:
In post 18, MisaTange wrote:I just realized the link GE gave hasn't been updated in 6 years (and if there's an updated version, I don't see it)

It's hard to say (and I don't think we have a user in this game that's been playing since 2010), but I think it's safe to say that meta has changed since 2010.
Especially
in such an "it's your playstyle" type genre such as mafia.
It also said it was often ignored.

In post 188, Io wrote:
In post 100, TheseViolentDelights wrote:
@IO: In your #6 and #10 are you being serious? Like do you plan on actually voting based on those statistics? Or do you have impressions of the game so far?
Nah I'm not that stupid. Like someone said you could say that on any 4 players you pick.
in what world are these townie posts

In post 651, Joshz wrote:VOTE: scumdeers

what is your plan if creeps flips town? its a complete waste of a lynch. he is nai lynchbait.

also im voting hiraki what??? i guess that was eric
I think Joshz is scum potentially with Creeps.

Either way moving a wagon off to a vanity wagon with so little time left is sketchy. And who the hell is Eric?
My creeps argument.

You lied and said it didn't exist.

Now excuse me I am going to Sunday game. Y'all can piss and moan but the fact of the matter is Gamma is scum and trying to get Creeps out of being lynched and is by his own admission not paying attention which he doesn't do or he is just scum with Creeps.

Actually I do fail to pay attention

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #779 (isolation #104) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 9:15 am

In post 774, MathBlade wrote:
In post 720, Gamma Emerald wrote:Creeps I'd prefer if you claimed now since we're having trouble assembling votes rn.

In post 723, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 721, MathBlade wrote:
In post 720, Gamma Emerald wrote:Creeps I'd prefer if you claimed now since we're having trouble assembling votes rn.
Fuck that. Stop fishing. I wish I had a gun right now.
I legit do not care what you think. This town is like a chicken with it's head cut off so claiming now, instead of when/if he reaches L-1, is more optimal so town has more time to switch if he's a PR.
No it isn't Gamma told Creeps to claim Pr to get out of being lynched. I have to go to DnD but seriously scum implosion is a thing people.

I just said to claim what he was, I wasn't telling him what to claim.
You're reading to much into it.

Gamma Emerald · Sun Dec 04, 2016 11:40 am

In post 780, Creeps20 wrote:
In post 767, MathBlade wrote:
In post 761, MathBlade wrote:
In post 760, Gamma Emerald wrote:Math if you help me on fitz I will let you lynch me tomorrow ok?
I don't barter with scum.
Point 1 bartering
Point 2 Telling Creeps to claim PR
Point 3 VCA as mentioned earlier
Point 4 (freshly added) Creeps posted elsewhere and not here. This indicates disinterest at a minimum and caught scum more likely.
Hang on a sec...

Is this an assumption?

VOTE: MathBlade
How do you know I enjoy playing as town? You can't seriously asume I am like you. No matter how compelling the argument is.

That was written about me but ok

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #793 (isolation #106) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 4:05 pm

In post 783, MathBlade wrote:No it was written about Creeps.

Not posting in a game but posting elsewhere indicates disinterest or scum. That is a general rule.

Why are you putting points against 2 people in the same list?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #794 (isolation #107) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 4:07 pm

In post 786, Aristophanes wrote:I'm with Math here.

TF/Creeps/Gamma scumteam where Creeps got the important power role?

Also, yes Crapes, read the game please.

Wow that's totally not meshing with Math's words
Math is accusing me of telling Creeps to claim town PR
WHY THE FUCK WOULD SCUM PR DO THAT?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #795 (isolation #108) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 4:08 pm

In post 789, Creeps20 wrote:
In post 786, Aristophanes wrote:I'm with Math here.

TF/Creeps/Gamma scumteam where Creeps got the important power role?

Also, yes Crapes, read the game please.
I HATE BEING CALLED A PIECE OF FOOD!

Anyways all I noticed major was Gamma buddying me. Which is probable scum. To say the least

I'm not buddying you you piece of shit I want you hanging from a goddamn tree!

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #797 (isolation #109) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 4:17 pm

Scum PRs usually claim VT so they don't get CCed.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #801 (isolation #110) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 4:36 pm

In post 799, MathBlade wrote:
In post 797, Gamma Emerald wrote:Scum PRs usually claim VT so they don't get CCed.
Not how I play. Will answer post game but if I say why I am coaching scum.

Okay
There's something missing here btw

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #802 (isolation #111) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 4:37 pm

In post 800, MathBlade wrote:
In post 795, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 789, Creeps20 wrote:
In post 786, Aristophanes wrote:I'm with Math here.

TF/Creeps/Gamma scumteam where Creeps got the important power role?

Also, yes Crapes, read the game please.
I HATE BEING CALLED A PIECE OF FOOD!

Anyways all I noticed major was Gamma buddying me. Which is probable scum. To say the least
I'm not buddying you you piece of shit I want you hanging from a goddamn tree!
I don't believe you.

Death! Death to the Creeps!

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #837 (isolation #112) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 7:37 am

In post 834, havingfitz wrote:4 suspects for me atm.

TwoFace
Ari
Gamma
Vedith

Eric falls off the list due to josh's play and Vedith joins it. Points to early D1 suspicions between the 2 without vote to show commitment.

TwoFace continues to slide.

VOTE: Gamma

This feels like playing into popular opinion but at least you have the balls to vote me.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #838 (isolation #113) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 7:38 am

Wait, Eric was still an option for fitz?
VOTE: Havingfitz
Eric's conftown buddy.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #841 (isolation #114) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 7:57 am

VOTE: Creeps
L-1

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #852 (isolation #115) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 8:54 am

In post 851, Joshz wrote:I thought I posted regarding mathblade but apparently I didn't. Huh.

There's someone in the game called nacho mama?????

Yes
He's good as town ***I guess?***

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #854 (isolation #116) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:28 am

Lots of people were expressing suspicion of me.
Eric's conftown because he's new enough that he can't make up the "newbies aren't scum" line.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #862 (isolation #117) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 5:31 pm

In post 859, MathBlade wrote:Not sure I like where any of this day is going it all feels Town v town. Going to just say screw it all and vote with gut (and the reasons before).

Didn't you say Creeps was scum?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #863 (isolation #118) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 5:32 pm

In post 860, Hiraki wrote:
In post 841, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: Creeps
L-1
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

i just want to make it very clear that either gamma is really bad or scum

The prior votecount had /5/ voting (including gamma but it's pretty obvious that he was unaware of that due to the following posts)

FrankJaeger votes in 840, the actual L-1 and then Gamma votes in 841 as if that was actually L-1

Gamma - please, please, PLEASE be a bit more careful with your votes if you're town. If you're scum, which I think you are, that was not a smooth move as you may think it was.

FYI it is now L-2, i can hop on Gamma or Creeps at this point - mathblade also loses a town point for shying out at the last minute

In post 856, TwoFace wrote:
In post 840, FrankJaeger wrote:Catching up more deer is looking town.
VOTE: creep
Care to show your work? You don't post much so I'd really love to see some explaining.

I'd also like your other scum reads with a summary of why
we really don't agree on much (i.e. anything) but i think we can finally agree that a force replacement is almost sorely needed at this point (and yes, i understand how frustrating this is mod, i am sorry for agreeing)

a vote is not a content based post

I switched off to vote fitz between the VC and Frank's vote

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #865 (isolation #119) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 5:42 pm

Okay then, MathBlade seems determined to tunnel me.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #877 (isolation #120) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:42 am

Nice job stealing the mod's pagetop, Josh

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #882 (isolation #121) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 7:25 am

As funny as voting the bot is, please don't derail the game so close to deadline.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #897 (isolation #122) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 2:55 pm

Creeps needs to claim NOW

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #899 (isolation #123) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:45 pm

In post 898, havingfitz wrote:
In post 312, Gamma Emerald wrote:PARTNER NOW!

In post 720, Gamma Emerald wrote:Creeps I'd prefer if you claimed now since we're having trouble assembling votes rn.

In post 897, Gamma Emerald wrote:Creeps needs to claim NOW
I hate pushing claims before they are necessary. Why potentially out a PR if not necessary?

What ever happened to this?
In post 311, Gamma Emerald wrote:What.
YOU CLAIM AT L-1!
Hmmmm...
More Gamma votes please.

We were nowhere close to deadline then. This town is slower than molasses rn

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #904 (isolation #124) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:51 pm

In post 902, Nachomamma8 wrote:Fitz, don't you think that claiming with ~1 day left until deadline is pretty reasonable when you're the top wagon?

This guy gets it

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #908 (isolation #125) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:54 pm

He wants an Io-slot lynch iirc

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #910 (isolation #126) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:55 pm

I think he also found something TT did scummy

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #915 (isolation #127) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:57 pm

In post 914, havingfitz wrote:
In post 902, Nachomamma8 wrote:Fitz, don't you think that claiming with ~1 day left until deadline is pretty reasonable when you're the top wagon?
This is a good point. I was more focused on the fact Gamma has been doing this throughout the day when we were "nowhere close to deadline then."

Doing what through the day?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #921 (isolation #128) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:02 pm

In post 918, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 914, havingfitz wrote:
In post 902, Nachomamma8 wrote:Fitz, don't you think that claiming with ~1 day left until deadline is pretty reasonable when you're the top wagon?
This is a good point. I was more focused on the fact Gamma has been doing this throughout the day when we were "nowhere close to deadline then."
By "throughout the day", do you mean "that one time when there were three days of deadline left"? Or do you have examples that you didn't quote?

I asked LUV to claim his mason partner

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #925 (isolation #129) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:04 pm

I wouldn't really hold it against him tbh
He's a House alt, and House has a distinct aggressive style

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #930 (isolation #130) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:10 pm

In post 929, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 925, Gamma Emerald wrote:I wouldn't really hold it against him tbh
He's a House alt, and House has a distinct aggressive style
TwoFace?

TwiszTed
Reason he got replaced was that the dude got caught as House's alt when House is currently banned

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #948 (isolation #131) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:39 pm

In post 947, Nachomamma8 wrote:Gamma, why Creeps over fitz?

1) Creeps distrust of the masons seems scummy, and if he lives to LyLo, based on his current behavior, he's a definite liability
2) Math had a strange switch off of Creeps that makes me think they're scumbuddies

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #952 (isolation #132) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:46 pm

In post 950, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 948, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 947, Nachomamma8 wrote:Gamma, why Creeps over fitz?
1) Creeps distrust of the masons seems scummy, and if he lives to LyLo, based on his current behavior, he's a definite liability
2) Math had a strange switch off of Creeps that makes me think they're scumbuddies
Why do you think that Creeps distrusting masons is scummy when there's no way in hell that he's actually getting us lynched? Your signature is about you getting paranoid of conftown and someone reading you as town as a result so I don't think it's unreasonable for me to expect you to understand why scum probably wouldn't push the mason pair here.

Why do you think that Mathblade is scum?

My signature happened because the town JK told me to give scumreads that didn't have him and the 1-shot BP in it and I freaked thinking it was an attempt to subvert scumreads on him, when there was no CC to the BPs claim before
He's just "I don't believe you".
Math seems scum because when he reread he had less reads than before.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #954 (isolation #133) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:49 pm

In post 951, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 949, Joshz wrote:he constantly goes for easy pushes. the first thing he does itg is go for tvd. when that doesnt pan out, he goes for eric, the ubernoob. he gets off eventually, but like, eric was obvtown to me, though clearly im biased knowing he was townie. there are only scum reasons to push a supernoob like that, as opposed to a noob of my level who is at least competent. more importantly, literally every post of his was contentless and empty. he did not start any GOOD discussons, or join in in any. #175 is also p bad, the only game ive completed on this site scum delegated to things such as 'x is scum and bonus points who tells me why', aka tricking people into subconsciously analyzing scummy traits of a person and ignoring their actual stance. twiszted was super scummy and nothing has changed my view on that.
This approach makes sense, I'll look out for it.
I think that House is a player that occasionally misses things that most people pick up on (aka Eric's ubertowniness), so the tell is lessened somewhat but I agree that some of his early approaches look pretty terrible; right now, I'm reading through his early approach to Gamma and I don't really like what he's scumreading Gamma for (assuming and wording, neither of which are scumtells in any sense of the word).

Me and House don't get along well
First game he tunneled me for parts of Days 1, 2, and 3, wavering his read so he could guage my alignment
Second game I had a read discrepancy he attacked me on, but he was scum so EH

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #957 (isolation #134) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:52 pm

In post 955, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 952, Gamma Emerald wrote:He's just "I don't believe you".
And what motivation does he have for doing that as scum?

It seems like a towny tinfoil hats thing at first, but then I realized he could be scum disguising himself as bad town

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #959 (isolation #135) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:56 pm

In post 958, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 957, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 955, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 952, Gamma Emerald wrote:He's just "I don't believe you".
And what motivation does he have for doing that as scum?
It seems like a towny tinfoil hats thing at first, but then I realized he could be scum disguising himself as bad town
So it could be town and it could be scum but you think that it's scummy?
This is the part where you're losing me.

It feels like fake paranoia

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #963 (isolation #136) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:00 pm

In post 960, MathBlade wrote:
In post 913, Nachomamma8 wrote:Mathblade, why do you want to lynch Gamma?
Gamma isn't his town self. In the scum game I was recently in 1841 he was a lot different.

He pushed for mason partner immediately and for many claims IMHO way too early. He has done blatant terribad fishing and it just isn't right.

In that game I was a watcher and I fished for watcher targets D1 when I knew I might get scumread for it

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #964 (isolation #137) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:01 pm

In post 962, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 960, MathBlade wrote:
In post 913, Nachomamma8 wrote:Mathblade, why do you want to lynch Gamma?
Gamma isn't his town self. In the scum game I was recently in 1841 he was a lot different.

He pushed for mason partner immediately and for many claims IMHO way too early. He has done blatant terribad fishing and it just isn't right.
Unfortunately, I'm not really too familiar with Gamma and currently have enough reading to do where I'm unable to take on anymore, so telling me that he's playing differently isn't particularly helpful; do you have any specifics?

I agree that he pushed for the mason partners to claim too early, but don't think that's strong enough on its own for me to want to push a lynch through on it.

You DID play with scum!me for a bit once

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #965 (isolation #138) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:01 pm

In post 961, Nachomamma8 wrote:Why?

@Gamma

It doesn't feel like he really believes in his paranoia

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #968 (isolation #139) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:04 pm

In post 967, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 965, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 961, Nachomamma8 wrote:Why?

@Gamma
It doesn't feel like he really believes in his paranoia
Seems pretty weak, especially if this is the big case for your preferred lynch.
Do you disagree?

There's also Math's 60-0 read change on Creeps

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #972 (isolation #140) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:09 pm

In post 970, MathBlade wrote:
In post 968, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 967, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 965, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 961, Nachomamma8 wrote:Why?

@Gamma
It doesn't feel like he really believes in his paranoia
Seems pretty weak, especially if this is the big case for your preferred lynch.
Do you disagree?
There's also Math's 60-0 read change on Creeps
Rereading. It is a thing.

And my pronoun is their. Please use it.

You don't reread and have your reads end up LESS DEVELOPED.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #977 (isolation #141) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:14 pm

In post 974, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 972, Gamma Emerald wrote:You don't reread and have your reads end up LESS DEVELOPED.
You don't think that it's possible for people to lose confidence over time?
Or are you making a different point with this?

Before they had a me-Creeps-joshz scumteam
After, it was "idek everyone else, gamma is teh scumz"

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #979 (isolation #142) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:15 pm

In post 975, MathBlade wrote:Yes I do. Wake's game I did and I was town there.

What you mean is YOU don't have your reads less developed. I do.

What the fuck?
Yeah, your reads are less developed. What are you trying to say?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #982 (isolation #143) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:17 pm

In post 980, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 977, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 974, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 972, Gamma Emerald wrote:You don't reread and have your reads end up LESS DEVELOPED.
You don't think that it's possible for people to lose confidence over time?
Or are you making a different point with this?
Before they had a me-Creeps-joshz scumteam
After, it was "idek everyone else, gamma is teh scumz"
So why is that reason to lynch Creeps and not Mathblade?

It felt like he was backing off his buddy
Now that you point it out, what I did is actually rather bad. I'm voting the wrong side of the association.
VOTE: MathBlade

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #983 (isolation #144) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:18 pm

In post 981, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 979, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 975, MathBlade wrote:Yes I do. Wake's game I did and I was town there.

What you mean is YOU don't have your reads less developed. I do.
What the fuck?
Yeah, your reads are less developed. What are you trying to say?
I think what they are saying is that you saying that "people don't reread and end up with less developed reads" was a generalization that didn't apply to them.

Okay, I felt like they were trying to turn my argument around on me.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #988 (isolation #145) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:27 pm

Some of TVD's posts ping ne as scummy

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #989 (isolation #146) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:30 pm

In post 667, MathBlade wrote:I like Gamma and JoshZ as a team. In the last game we played together Gamma was more forceful with me about reads and such. Now he plays nice with JoshZ and is only forceful on the mason claim.

So I like Creeps JoshZ and Gamma as the scumteam after catching up.

Looking back this is a bit odd. Before this he stated he saw a Joshz-Creeps association, in this one he states one between me and Joshz. He follows it with a vote on Creeps. Same mistake I JUST MADE.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #993 (isolation #147) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:34 pm

In post 992, Nachomamma8 wrote:Gamma, is there any chance you'd be willing to swing to fitz in the spirit of compromise?

Yes of course

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #995 (isolation #148) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:37 pm

In post 750, havingfitz wrote:I would vote Gamma and Ari as well. Neither of them have done fcukall this game that I can recall other than sheeping TwoFace's crapass case on me.

Vedith and Deers have petered out after replacing in. Sadly. wtf

Josh has revived the Eric slot a bit so looking forward (hopefully) to seeing what that slot provides tomorrow.
Misa claimed mason so I guess their work is done

This post is fucking bullshit. "I've done jack shit" "I HAVEN'T DONE SHIT" SURE IT AIN'T ALL GOOD SHIT BUT I'VE DONE SHIT

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #996 (isolation #149) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:38 pm

In post 994, Nachomamma8 wrote:You also never actually answered why you asked for a mason claim when you did.

I felt it was proper to verify the claim.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:42 pm

Okay, looks like things are finally aligning so we can finally have a united push on SOMEONE.
VOTE: fitz

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:45 pm

In post 999, MathBlade wrote:When you don't believe someone you state it and/or vote it. Not try to organize a streaking party.

Hey I don't believe Gamma is town. Can we mass claim? (The last sentence is sarcastic I am a lover of pants)

I was already voting it dummy
Also I legit cannot trust a solo mason claim after kraska fakeclaimed masons as town with a scum one time, I need proof it is real.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:51 pm

In post 1005, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1003, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 999, MathBlade wrote:When you don't believe someone you state it and/or vote it. Not try to organize a streaking party.

Hey I don't believe Gamma is town. Can we mass claim? (The last sentence is sarcastic I am a lover of pants)
I was already voting it dummy
Also I legit cannot trust a solo mason claim after kraska fakeclaimed masons as town with a scum one time, I need proof it is real.
Then you state that disbelief and question it. Vote it. Poke it with questions of unusual size. If someone is dumb enough to fake claim masons in a normal setup they would be caught with other power or other analysis. There is no reason you should depants masons ever.

Okay, this feels like rational talk. Where was this version of MathBlade earlier?

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 06, 2016 6:03 pm

In post 1009, MathBlade wrote:Same person. Sometimes I just make mistakes and fess up to them. I just get inexplicably scumread as town. It is a thing. I am working on finding out why.

Still think you are scum.

Oh and saying you pushed for a claim then you would have still pushed even after since in your scenarios kraska claimed masons with scum. So a claim helps you out none in sorting it and you then get onto Creeps for having distrust?

Excuse me while I go bang my head against the wall of how obv scum you are.

Yeah I do realize it sounds similar I actually do think, but when kraska fakeclaimed it was like "well that explains shit" then Nero was like "WTF are you talking about kraska we're not masons" and I was like "scuuummzz!"
So this time, LUV claims at L-2, which was strange, and he claims masons on top of that. So I want to verify this so we don't have the same "WTF are you talking about" moment
But Creeps is like "you're pretty much confirmed but I STILL DON'T TRUST YOU". After Misa confirmed I was satisfied.

Gamma Emerald · Wed Dec 07, 2016 11:44 am

In post 1035, Creeps20 wrote:
In post 1032, TwoFace wrote:
In post 1031, MathBlade wrote:I suspect everyone until they are conf town.
First, I believe this is impossible to do, plus it is very narrow minded thiking since majority of the players in the game are town.

Second - if this is what you actually do, you have already contradicted yourself in this game because you have called people town and they aren't confirmed town.
Admittedly I do the same as MathBlade.

obviously

Gamma Emerald · Wed Dec 07, 2016 2:24 pm

<24 hours guys

Gamma Emerald · Wed Dec 07, 2016 5:26 pm

In post 1048, MathBlade wrote:So 5 on fitz. Gamma should be the lynch today.

I'm nowhere close to being lynched, WTF are you talking about

Gamma Emerald · Wed Dec 07, 2016 7:32 pm

I swear if you're winding up for what I think you're doing you're gonna have a BAAAAAD TIIIIIIME

Gamma Emerald · Thu Dec 08, 2016 5:51 am

In post 1101, TwoFace wrote:
In post 1095, MathBlade wrote:TeoFace or Gamma tomorrow.
if fitz ends up getting lynched and flips scum, you're getting lynched tomorrow

No, don't say that.

Gamma Emerald · Thu Dec 08, 2016 7:50 am

In post 1131, MathBlade wrote:
In post 1129, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1101, TwoFace wrote:
In post 1095, MathBlade wrote:TeoFace or Gamma tomorrow.
if fitz ends up getting lynched and flips scum, you're getting lynched tomorrow
No, don't say that.
Lol @Gamma clearly posting in wrong thread. Scum probably have day chat too.twoFace and Gamma last ones.

No, I understand what you are talking about and I don't think you're a good lynch.
If fitz flips town however, we're gonna go rounds.

Gamma Emerald · Thu Dec 08, 2016 7:52 am

Because if fitz flips scum Math is most likely town.

Gamma Emerald · Sat Dec 10, 2016 10:46 am

In post 1146, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 1141, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 1137, Gamma Emerald wrote:Because if fitz flips scum Math is most likely town.
This doesn't really make a whole lot of sense.
Gamma, tell me why this made sense.

Nacho, tell me why it didn't.

The hammer was an obvious CC.

Gamma Emerald · Sat Dec 10, 2016 10:50 am

In post 1152, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 1150, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1146, Aristophanes wrote:
In post 1141, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 1137, Gamma Emerald wrote:Because if fitz flips scum Math is most likely town.
This doesn't really make a whole lot of sense.
Gamma, tell me why this made sense.

Nacho, tell me why it didn't.
The hammer was an obvious CC.
It would have been nice if you were a bit smarter about your reaction to it.

I'll admit my notation of it WAS hamfisted.

Gamma Emerald · Sat Dec 10, 2016 10:53 am

In post 1155, Nachomamma8 wrote:What do you think of my FJ read?

I think it's pretty reasonable.
Wait what?

Gamma Emerald · Sat Dec 10, 2016 10:54 am

I BARELY followed that game.

Gamma Emerald · Sat Dec 10, 2016 10:57 am

In post 1159, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 1158, Gamma Emerald wrote:I BARELY followed that game.
Figured as much, just saw you pop up in the aftermath and wanted to see if you followed it more closely than I thought.
Is that what the "wait what" is referring to?

Yeah.

Gamma Emerald · Sat Dec 10, 2016 11:01 am

I usually let things normalize from the night buzz before voting.

Gamma Emerald · Sat Dec 10, 2016 11:14 am

In post 200, Dierfire wrote:
VOTE COUNT 1.02

Eric Rasputin (3): Creeps20, Lil Uzi Vert, MisaTange
Lil Uzi Vert (2): Hiraki, TheseViolentDelights
TheseViolentDelights (1): Gamma Emerald
Io (1): havingfitz
Hiraki (1): Io
havingfitz (1): Aristophanes
TwiszTed (1): Eric Rasputin

No Vote (3): TwoFace, FrankJaeger, TwiszTed

TIMER

(expired on 2016-11-30 16:30:00)

NOTES

Seeking replacement for Io

I think I'd rather lynch Creeps than Frank today tbh
He's the only one not confirmed town on the Eric wagon here, and Eric is very likely town.
Would have been nice if I had thought to check this earlier, but Day 1 VCA is usually terrible so w/e

Gamma Emerald · Sat Dec 10, 2016 11:15 am

VOTE: Creeps20

Gamma Emerald · Sat Dec 10, 2016 11:16 am

I feel at least one of the early votes on Eric was scum, and in that VC it's Creeps and the masons.

Gamma Emerald · Sat Dec 10, 2016 11:19 am

In post 1170, Nachomamma8 wrote:why do you think one of the early votes on Eric was scum?
why did you cut it off at the three vote wagon when having three town votes on town is not at all unheard of?

I was looking at the official VC. As for why, he was lynchbait early on.

Gamma Emerald · Sat Dec 10, 2016 11:19 am

In post 1171, Nachomamma8 wrote:in fact, in Family Mafia, the first three votes on Spicy were town. the three person wagon that formed on me that game was also all town.

Ah

Gamma Emerald · Sat Dec 10, 2016 11:28 am

Because I left for a bit
UNVOTE:
I'll look at Deers. I believe I aldo voted Eric, so it would be wise for you guys to take a look at me too.

Gamma Emerald · Sat Dec 10, 2016 2:20 pm

In post 1182, Creeps20 wrote:
In post 1181, Gamma Emerald wrote:Because I left for a bit
UNVOTE:
I'll look at Deers. I believe I aldo voted Eric, so it would be wise for you guys to take a look at me too.
Hang on.

This sounds like he is ruing too hard to be townie.

Not enough for a vote yet but could be useful to note. Very useful to note.

ruing?

Gamma Emerald · Sat Dec 10, 2016 2:47 pm

I do not like Deers' vote on Eric at all. He clearly states he doesn't see scum intent in Eric's posts. However, I'm not sure scum would be so direct in that statement.

Gamma Emerald · Sat Dec 10, 2016 3:17 pm

In post 1187, FrankJaeger wrote:Doing some vca.
Nacho is prob town based on d2 posting.
Joshz vote looks bad here.
VCA should be revealing in anycase.

Nacho replaced Misa, one of the masons.

Gamma Emerald · Sun Dec 11, 2016 9:29 am

In post 749, havingfitz wrote:Frank...regardless of your alignment, why don't you just do this game a favor and replace out ffs.

This post pings me. It's like "hey replace out so I have an active buddy".

Gamma Emerald · Sun Dec 11, 2016 4:09 pm

In post 1212, FrankJaeger wrote:
In post 1210, TwoFace wrote:I'm starting to think gamma could be scum also. He was easy to hop off fitz onto creeps. Fitz put a lot of reasons out for gamma, more so for me but pushed me and only went to gamma much later when it was still obvious gamma wasn't getting lynched.

Fitz/gamma/hiraki. Does this make sense?

I guess hiraki could be scum.
Not sure but his vote on me is the worst yet.

Thoughts on me???

Gamma Emerald · Mon Dec 12, 2016 2:47 am

In post 1221, Joshz wrote:read through some of day 1, sdavt moves into my probably town pile.

hiraki/gamma/frank most likely contains both scum, id still lynch vedith but apparently nobody agrees with that so

hiraki/gamma/frank: what are your reads on me? do you think [the two not including yourself] are likely the two living scum? if not, whats your solve rn?

You are in Eric's slot correct? Solid town.
I don't believe that group is certain to contain both scum, but I DON'T have a solve, because I don't particularly care for miracle pills.

Gamma Emerald · Mon Dec 12, 2016 2:48 am

In post 1233, FrankJaeger wrote:gamma and guy with Pie symbol as pic are null

That's MathBlade with the Pi symbol.
Go read the OP.

Gamma Emerald · Mon Dec 12, 2016 5:44 am

Can we not speak in code?

Gamma Emerald · Mon Dec 12, 2016 5:55 am

Statue = Aristophanes
Pie = Pi = MathBlade
At least you're not calling me Gemerald lel

Gamma Emerald · Mon Dec 12, 2016 11:05 am

There was a game with a backup protective, so it makes sense.

Gamma Emerald · Mon Dec 12, 2016 6:06 pm

Okay that response from Hiraki tbh was crap.

Gamma Emerald · Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:45 am

In post 1350, Joshz wrote:It doesnt

Fitz/vedith does though

Tbh this does sound like an interesting idea
Vedith's pushes today leave something to be desired
VOTE: Vedith

Gamma Emerald · Wed Dec 14, 2016 4:30 pm

Hiraki's return is scummy AF
VOTE: Hiraki

Gamma Emerald · Wed Dec 14, 2016 4:31 pm

Gamma Emerald · Wed Dec 14, 2016 4:33 pm

In post 1378, Aj The Epic wrote:So this is my notification that I'm still reading and such.

A point is I think it's highly likely Joshz is scum. Eric Rasputin was highly suspect and what I've read on this page does nothing to make me warm and fuzzy about the slot. Specifically, drawing on the newb card isn't an excuse for bad play. New players are honest and easily readable as town, if not confused. Inconsistency is a great way to catch the differentiation if nothing else.

Aj isn't a bad vote either TBH
Aj go ISO Eric plz

Gamma Emerald · Wed Dec 14, 2016 5:22 pm

@Hiraki: I regard your posts as bad because the reactions seem exaggerated. My most recent callout is a prime example: too much eagerness in the post.

Gamma Emerald · Thu Dec 15, 2016 6:47 am

In post 1444, Vedith wrote:
In post 1443, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
@Vedith:
What's stopping Creeps and Hiraki from being partners?
It's pretty hard when Hiraki is town.
But I'm open to listen why...

Why is Hiraki town?

Gamma Emerald · Thu Dec 15, 2016 12:10 pm

Hey Sonia! Are you scum?

Gamma Emerald · Thu Dec 15, 2016 12:21 pm

why did you quote the vc tf

Gamma Emerald · Thu Dec 15, 2016 12:21 pm

In post 1535, Vedith wrote:
In post 1532, TwoFace wrote:over the top fake AtE

In post 1526, Dierfire wrote:xSoniaNevermindx replaces Creeps20
You're in for a treat.

keklel

Gamma Emerald · Thu Dec 15, 2016 12:23 pm

In post 1540, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:
In post 1536, Joshz wrote:Lol I didn't see the mod note and got really confused

Hi Sonia. Maybe you'll be done your read through before aj!
I don't re read.

Although I may check the flipped scums iso but that's prob it.

Was Math a likely nk or was it prob from bg?

Directly targeted is my guess.

Gamma Emerald · Thu Dec 15, 2016 12:39 pm

nononono
LUV and Nacho are the masons

Gamma Emerald · Thu Dec 15, 2016 12:44 pm

People that are Conftown/probtown
TwoFace - fitz push
Lil Uzi Vert - mason
Frankjaeger - backup BG
Gamma Emerald - fitz push
Nachomamma8 - mason
Joshz - predecessor Eric townslipped

Gamma Emerald · Thu Dec 15, 2016 12:44 pm

Left that there so you don't have to catch up p much.

Gamma Emerald · Thu Dec 15, 2016 12:48 pm

The leftovers
Vedith - not really scummy, but Joshz thinks so
Hiraki - opted to not vote fitz after stating he would
Aj - this is a small issue, but has thrown shade on Eric after the consensus decided he was town
Aristo - softed a PR early Day 1

Gamma Emerald · Thu Dec 15, 2016 12:50 pm

In post 1553, xSoniaNevermindx wrote:
In post 1550, Gamma Emerald wrote:People that are Conftown/probtown
TwoFace - fitz push Lol.
Lil Uzi Vert - mason sure.
Frankjaeger - backup BG ehhhhhhh okay
Gamma Emerald - fitz push Lol.
Nachomamma8 - mason sure.
Joshz - predecessor Eric townslipped Where?

Eric stated newbies don't get to be scum. He'd have to be a fucking mastermind to fake that.
fitz push means that me and TF were pushed by fitz for shaky reasoning

Gamma Emerald · Thu Dec 15, 2016 12:56 pm

IMO Aristo needs to fullclaim