Mini 1864 - Mao Mafia [GAME OVER]

[SnarkySnowman]

Votecount 3.2

ironstove (2)

- 123456789, karnos

karnos (1)

- Chairman

Not Voting (7)

- Gamma Emerald, Clumsy Phoenix, FaerieLord, Tiershift, ironstove, Mas y Menos, CloudKicker

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@Gamma - No.

Suzune and FaerieLord have been prodded.

[ironstove]

I just find it very odd that someone can win the game but the game still continues on, seems like this should be a wrap.

How are you feeling today?

Nothing ironstove? nothing at all?

What do you mean by this question tho? I'm not sure what you're trying to say.

Ironstove is scum.

I'm town psychologist. I can pick a player each night, they get benefits if they are town aligned. Ironstove obviously didn't get any benefit from my night action, which makes him scum.

VOTE: Ironstove

Hmm? You mean how I got to make a rule?

[ironstove]

Lul, I shouldn't have said that.

[ironstove]

Bye karnos.

[ironstove]

Pick me again tonight tho, I'll make it worth your while.

[TierShift]

I can back up karnos's role claim as well apart from the alignment but I don't think it auto leads to ironstove being scum.

[karnos]

Hmm? You mean how I got to make a rule?

Hmm, are you trying to use my psychology against me? Explain the message you got and what you did with it. And was it night 1 or night 2?

[ironstove]

Night 2 is the only night I got an unusual message.

And as for what I did, I set a wonderfully hilarious rule which I won't disclose, but when you see it, youll know it was me.

[ironstove]

Well I think tier is scum for the post above. Rather scummy thing to say imo

[FaerieLord]

Hi, responding to Prod, sorry about that, Busy weekend for me.

I'll read this day (and the previous) tomorrow morning (so in like...12 hours hopefully)

[Mas y Menos]

yeah we're a shitty cult or whatever

VOTE: ironstove

[123456789]

VOTE: Ironstove

[123456789]

Actually,

UNVOTE: Ironstove

VOTE: Snarky the Chairman

[TierShift]

Well I think tier is scum for the post above. Rather scummy thing to say imo

Why? Where's the vote?

[Gamma Emerald]

yeah we're a shitty cult or whatever

VOTE: ironstove

Yeah
Apparently my win condition now includes overthrowing the Chairman
Should I state what my role was before?

[FaerieLord]

Ok, so read everything. This game still does not make sense at all and y'all are not making it any better.

First of all, before we lynch ironstove, can we wait for karnos to tell us who he targeted night 1? Because that could really confirm ironstove's position in this game. Also, I really don't like how karnos just slow soft claimed, but before I go into more depth, I'd really like an answer from him. (Also, on that note, this game probably has more neutral factions. Even if stove is lying, it does not necessarily mean that they are scum. Killing a neutral is whatever to good, killing scum is great to great)

Secondly, tiershift lying about their results (stating they got a guilty) followed by "yeah, ok, that's what i meant, i won't claim tho", is a pretty ass way of doing things. I mean, he just got a random person to claim, and nobody is batting an eye-lid?

Thirdly, we might have a cult and nobody cares? We're letting the cultists vote ironstove and not batting an eye-lid when their win condition might be met in like...a night? (10 people left, 1 lynched, 1 killed at night = 8 people, and they're probably already at 3 people + 1 next night = 4 people. That's 50% of the player base as part of the banana revolution).

This game has really been characterised by people trying to guess rules but forgetting to play mafia.

[ironstove]

Mr. Chairman, can I see a vote count when you get a chance? TY.

[karnos]

Night 2 is the only night I got an unusual message.

And as for what I did, I set a wonderfully hilarious rule which I won't disclose, but when you see it, youll know it was me.

Hmm that *sounds* legit.

UNVOTE:

[ironstove]

yeah we're a shitty cult or whatever

VOTE: ironstove

Hey mas, what do you mean by this vote? Are we still in RVS?

[karnos]

First of all, before we lynch ironstove, can we wait for karnos to tell us who he targeted night 1?

Why is this so important?

Are you worried that it was you?

[FaerieLord]

First of all, before we lynch ironstove, can we wait for karnos to tell us who he targeted night 1?

Why is this so important?

Are you worried that it was you?

No, it's important because there is literally no reason for you to have soft claimed on Day 3 and not on Day 2. You outed yourself as a power role for absolutely no reason today, so I'm just very confused as to why you didn't do it yesterday.

[karnos]

No, it's important because there is literally no reason for you to have soft claimed on Day 3 and not on Day 2. You outed yourself as a power role for absolutely no reason today, so I'm just very confused as to why you didn't do it yesterday.

Day 2 lasted 4 hours. I wasn't online to post.

[FaerieLord]

Ok, I was trying to get a better answer from you, but that didn't happen and I kind of spoiled my point there, so I'm going to just clarify it

Please tell me what possible benefit there is to not claiming who you've targeted on Night 1.

If you hit town n1
- 1) We confirm that your "psychology" works (town person says "Yes, I have indeed received an ability")
- 2) We confirm that your "psychology" works the way ironstove said it did (town person says "Yes, I have indeed had the chance to make a new rule!")

If you hit scum / neutral n1 (and ironstove is town, which I believe to be the case)
- 1) We kind of have a very solid lead as to who scum / neutral is? This one should be self explanatory here.

The only way we do not get anything beneficial out of this is
- 1) You targeted a dead person (in which case, we refer to my question from the previous post)
- 2) You targeted scum / neutral, who will now go along with what ironstove said, so we have 2 "confirmed" scum / neutral.

Like think a bit about your abilities for a second. And tell me
- 1) Why did you claim?
- 2) Why did you claim TODAY (as opposed to yesterday)?

It means you're either playing badly // I'm stupid and I'm missing something obvious // you're hiding / playing at something

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Pre-post Edit (You posted before I finished my post): So you're saying you would have soft-claimed yesterday? And there's still no reason for you to not reveal your N1 action now.

[karnos]

I'm not saying I would have claimed yesterday, but I see advantages to not revealing my target.

If I have two people who I have used my power on, and I question one of them about it, they can't just lie and say "oh yeah, I did get that message on night 1" - not unless they want to gamble a 50% chance of getting the night wrong.

But if I spell out exactly who I targeted and when, they can just lie if they are scum and the investigative potential is wasted.

[karnos]

On the other hand, waiting too many nights increases the chance that I will just be killed before I can share at all, which reduces my role's value to 0. I figure two nights is the sweet spot.