STEVEN UNIVERSE 2 - GAME OVER

[Randomnamechange]

Creature and Shiro are must kill.

[Shiro]

No idea why there was no kill

[Creature]

Hysterical fiction.

[Creature]

Yeah, Shiro should go at some point.

[Creature]

Also, is there any way I can flip before night ends? If not, I recommend you have the mindset of the worst case scenario (me being town).

[farside22]

Unknowingly my ability when targeted blocks everything including nk by scum.
I had 13 points and today I have 15 points.
I know my creature block was successful.

For the record this is effectively a quasi-guilty on Creature due to the lack of scum Nightkill.

@Everyone

- please confirm in thread whether you have any reason why the scum Nightkill would not have occured. Unless someone else has a reason Creature WILL be the lynch today.

Shadow_Step - Claim indicates he should have none but need confirmation.
Almost50 - ???
Shiro - ???
Farside22 - Blocked Creature
Reasonably Rational (Cerberus v666 + Drixx) - ???
grapes - ???
mastin2 - ???
MagnaofIllusion - Has no reason
TheFuzzylogic99- ???
Creature - Unless counter-claims farside's result has no reason.
randomidget - Has no reason

Just an FYI.
My rb doesn't stop factional kills.
Anything that targets me gets blocked.
I know someone targeted me last night do to the fact I got an additional point today.

[mastin2]

Also I've briefly mentioned this to Grapes in our PT but I'd like to form a pool of "Must Die ASAP" players that most everyone agrees with.

Creature and Shiro seem to be high.
Fuzzy's also on there, but not as much of an immediate priority.

I wouldn't put anyone else on that list, to be honest. The gems are town. Farside is most likely town. I don't believe either RR or Almost50 are town, nor do I believe grapes is scum. The closest to a fourth name would be Shadow_step, who isn't a priority for me at all.

Also, I have no reason for the failed kill.

[Creature]

Maybe getting possible scum roleblocker might help.

[Almost50]

Unknowingly my ability when targeted blocks everything including nk by scum.
I had 13 points and today I have 15 points.
I know my creature block was successful.

For the record this is effectively a quasi-guilty on Creature due to the lack of scum Nightkill.

@Everyone

- please confirm in thread whether you have any reason why the scum Nightkill would not have occured. Unless someone else has a reason Creature WILL be the lynch today.

Shadow_Step - Claim indicates he should have none but need confirmation.
Almost50 - ???
Shiro - ???
Farside22 - Blocked Creature
Reasonably Rational (Cerberus v666 + Drixx) - ???
grapes - ???
mastin2 - ???
MagnaofIllusion - Has no reason
TheFuzzylogic99- ???
Creature - Unless counter-claims farside's result has no reason.
randomidget - Has no reason

Nothing that I can think of. I already stated all my abilities, and I'm NOT NK immune. I don't have protective abilities either (i.e. not Doc, JK, RB .. etc). It seems the ONLY protective abilities I had were specifically confined to the Joy Ride event (members could not target someone outside it and could not be targeted by an outsider either), but that's it. It doesn't apply to the normal alliance thing.

[Almost50]

@MOI
while I respect your opinion ..I will not be chained down by the will of the masses. I do not feel it is the best way to go and can lead to be influenced by scum. I will take the consensus of the town into consideration but I feel like I should not be bound by it,

I beg to differ. If you're Town you do need to shoot the debatable players. Mastina, MoI & random are the only 3 confirmed Town to me. This means everyone else is good to shoot, including myself. (I'm -of course- confirmed to myself and probably widely Town read too, but there are a couple who still suspect me, which might not be good if the game goes to LyLo/MyLo)

[Almost50]

I know someone targeted me last night do to the fact I got an additional point today.

Does anybody want to claim they targeted farside last night and claim the action??

[Reasonably Rational]

@MoI: Just throwing this out there and hoping you'll agree with me. You and I have been having a pissing contest for most of the game, and like 90% of it has been unrelated to the game. Can we table that and work our shit out after the game? I'm a good guy and I suspect you are too.

Now for the more important and relevant question: Have you received the info I passed along and the questions? If so, can you get some answers relayed back to us please?

~Drixx

[TheFuzzylogic99]

I will do my best to coroperate with town.....however if I believe the person is town I wont shoot them. Right now Mastin and Far are the only ones on my no kill list.

[Reasonably Rational]

I will do my best to coroperate with town.....however if I believe the person is town I wont shoot them. Right now Mastin and Far are the only ones on my no kill list.

Read my long post from earlier this day phase. A50 should at least be on that same list for very strong reasoning.

I'm curious why you don't consider the Crystal Gems to be off the list. Really curious.

~Drixx

[TheFuzzylogic99]

RR
I dont quite understand your questions but I will try to answer the best I can...,,

First off it seems that alot of people are assuming the last two Gems are town . ( I am not trying to make assumptions about anyone but this is the general
impression I am getting. I hope yall will be forgiving if I am wrong about this.) To me it likely they are town but being Gems does not make them automatically
town. One could be a fake role and to throw out that idea is dangerous IMHO. Unless I have strong reason to believe diffently I try to keep possibilities open.
Now if Random and MOI confirms that their roles had been mod confirmed some how I would auto town them. If however if it just players confirming each other I will remain skeptical.

Supposing all the Gems are actually Gems and are town than that means that we had atleast , 6 conftown. The 5 gems than Kras who would of been modcofirmed in a three player game. I there was another which woud make 7. This seems pretty high number for a 25 player game. Even 6 seems on the edge
of making tbe game semi unbalanced,

The biggest problem comes in the form of Pearl.Besides the fake account there is just two possibilities. There is no body who is pearl or there is somebody who is pearl. There is no other possibilities. There being a Pearl and not being a Pearl in this game is impossible.

lf a Pearl account exist we have a few issues. First off the Sky fake account means nothing as it would be obvious fake if a player flips Pearl. Second Vasoon would not make an scum account that would be so obvious fake. This makes me think that Pearl is like connie and is only exsistant in the players minds.

this seems to point to one of the following
a) Moi was fooled into thinking Random was Pearl
b) MOI was flat out lying about there being a Pearl.
C MOI was just mistaken and there is no Pearl

[TheFuzzylogic99]

I will be busy today filling my fat ugly face with Thanksgiving food and spending time with family.I will read your case on Almost as soon as I get the chance.

To everyone a very blessed Thanksgivings to you. Be sure to take count of your blessings

[Creature]

Okay, apparently scum tried to kill farside22.

[Creature]

but I suppose I'll be lynched anyway.

[Randomnamechange]

RR
I dont quite understand your questions but I will try to answer the best I can...,,

First off it seems that alot of people are assuming the last two Gems are town . ( I am not trying to make assumptions about anyone but this is the general
impression I am getting. I hope yall will be forgiving if I am wrong about this.) To me it likely they are town but being Gems does not make them automatically
town. One could be a fake role and to throw out that idea is dangerous IMHO. Unless I have strong reason to believe diffently I try to keep possibilities open.
Now if Random and MOI confirms that their roles had been mod confirmed some how I would auto town them. If however if it just players confirming each other I will remain skeptical.

Supposing all the Gems are actually Gems and are town than that means that we had atleast , 6 conftown. The 5 gems than Kras who would of been modcofirmed in a three player game. I there was another which woud make 7. This seems pretty high number for a 25 player game. Even 6 seems on the edge
of making tbe game semi unbalanced,

The biggest problem comes in the form of Pearl.Besides the fake account there is just two possibilities. There is no body who is pearl or there is somebody who is pearl. There is no other possibilities. There being a Pearl and not being a Pearl in this game is impossible.

lf a Pearl account exist we have a few issues. First off the Sky fake account means nothing as it would be obvious fake if a player flips Pearl. Second Vasoon would not make an scum account that would be so obvious fake. This makes me think that Pearl is like connie and is only exsistant in the players minds.

this seems to point to one of the following
a) Moi was fooled into thinking Random was Pearl
b) MOI was flat out lying about there being a Pearl.
C MOI was just mistaken and there is no Pearl

Me and MoI are same alignment otherwise that is ridiculously heavy bastard modding.

[Creature]

Now that this quasi-guilty is non-existant, am I still the lynch priority?

[farside22]

Okay, apparently scum tried to kill farside22.

I'm not sure why.
That's the part that bugs me.
Moi, random and mastin are practically confirmed town.

Tfl has proven to kill with the fire shot claim.

I've been lynched once and accused of scum conspiring from rr and Titus.

[farside22]

I'm sure moi will disagree but here's who my biggest scum read is currently.

VOTE: shadow

[Creature]

I'm not sure how many votes Shadow is at.

[Shadow_step]

Wanna elaborate why or don't wanna vote your buddy Creature so the vote park?

[Almost50]

Let me try to redraw the picture in my mind:

Mastina has been mod confirmed to Yume. I will stress on the MOD CONFIRMED part. She's Town. End of.

Moi & random have read each other's role PMs. They KNOW each other's abilities and there's no way either is faking.

farside has been shot at last night. That confirms her as Town. The only argument would be "they knew it would fail so it's for town-cred.. bla bla" amd it doesn't stand at all, bc far has been doing fine and was furthest from being on the receiving end of any heat for at least 2-3 days already, so it'd be dumb to skip a NK just to give her credit she already has.

Shadow has been allied with Mastina for 2 phases now, and I trust Mastina. I mean, it's one thing to read the thread with all the noise and totally another for her to go 1-on-1 with Shadow.

grapes also has been shot at before, so that makes him Town (but the argument about Town cred back then "may" hold more water than the one against farside. Still, grapes is Town).

RR have been allied with Titus TWICE, and I also trust Titus, so -even without my own read on them as TOWN- they should be globally Town read.

Shiro has been with both Titus and RR, and I still believe he's Town there, although we have yet to say anything of importance in our alliance PT.

Me? I know I'm Town, but I'll leave it to others to explain why I should be trusted.

This -unfortunately- only leaves us with Creature and Fuzzy. Fuzzy claims vig, which I'm not buying, but if he IS then he should be shooting outside of Mastina, MoI, random and farside for starters.

The thing is if he IS Town then either something is extremely wrong about one of my reads, OR the game ends with the lynch of Creature.

VOTE: Creature