NY 198: Nexus is Now a New Normal Mafia (Game Over)

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Hammer that, biggest bullshit claim ever.

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Gamma it's time to Hamma

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A 1-shot commuter never claims commuter - they claim protective or investigative to draw NK.

Lynch with extreme prejudice, right the fuck now.

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You're not a 1-shot commuter lol

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Commuter don't play like dat m8

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Nothing is known about setup and we aren't close to lylo or mylo so they wouldn't CC unless they're bad tbh

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Also ty for admitting my brain is brilliant <3

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Omg can someone please pretty please with a cherry on top lynch this obvscum?! FUK

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drealmerz7, Aeronaut, davesaz, Lil Uzi Vert, Zachstralkita, JarJarDrinks

One of you needs to vote Shadow pls and ty.

With love,

Your friendly neighbourhood Spoderman

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Aero if you're not gone pls align your vote with mine as you said I'm conftown ffffffuuuuuuuuuuufffuufufuuufufuffuud

*CAFFIENE OVERDOSE*

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<3

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I was pointing out drealmerz reads, not urs Pine.

The shittiness? we're stomping the scum.

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Considering we just lynched Shadow, how am I letting off lurker scum easy?

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There are only 3 things that matter as town:
1. how accurate you can be
2. how convincing you can be
3. how cooperative you are with other town (depends largely point #1, your ability to accurately read people - can't cooperate with town you can't find)

Your error is in assuming that I don't know how to play slow. I do. I often stall out deadlines to make sure we get a better lynch because the wagons being presented aren't good. However I also know that stalling is a scum tactic that occurs when the wagons ARE good - when wagons are good, I push for lynches and to get claims (like this Shadow wagon) because that's what works.

I absolutely DON'T let off lurkerscum easy by playing faster - in fact I make the game HARDER on them because their lack of activity is juxtaposed against my high activity - the more active the town is, the more the lurkerscum become obvious. If you want to use more deadline that's fine - but I think it's bad to stall out a deadline just because it's there. There's no reason to stall it out and wait for people to inevitably replace as the game slowly becomes more and more dead.

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How is my ego clouding my abilities if we're lynching scum 2 days in a row?

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You aren't the first person to tell me this and that's fine, but if I'm so clouded then why am I so regularly finding and convincing towns to lynch scum when I play as town?

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No, stop voting Uzi.

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Okay I've basically used all useful abilities anyway, I'm town JOAT with 1-shot Track, Follow and Watcher.

Someone unvote Uzi, I wanna talk about night results.

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Drealmerz is conftown and so am I now. I have 1-shot Watcher left but that ability is pointless in this game as I really have zero idea who is gonna get targeted apart from me, but I can't target me.

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I used 1-shot Track last night: someone visited 2 people at once. What roles can do that?

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I used 1-shot Track last night: someone visited 2 people at once. What roles can do that?

Scum performing an action and a kill?

Was one of the people being targeted someone that may have been attacked and saved?

Yes.

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Thr targets were KTS + myself. I'm likely protected as an obvious NK choice.

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Bus Driver is blacklisted

ok I figured it probably was but hadn't checked yet

I don't think a town role can do 2 actions

That's basically what I want to confirm.

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So this is impossible to be town right?

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Lol sorry guys, mega busy work day today and didn't get a chance for a break.

I tracked Davesaz last night.

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Also I used my 1-shot Follow on Shadow_Step on Night 1 - he used a kiling action, that's why I wanted to run him up to lynch ASAP. With only one kill for the night there's a very minor chance he was a town vigilante but I was 99% sure he was mafia.

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So my insane reads aren't really that insane, I was right day1 and I got guilties 2 nights in a row.

I guess you could say it's read related because I targeted my top scumreads but I'm not sure I would have tried to powerlynch Shadow with quite so much effort (or would I).

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Also I wanted Shadow lynched without having to claim so I could use it Night 2, didn't wanna give scum even more reasons to kill me lmao.

P-edit: even so who the fuck would have chose to motivate dave when hes made like 5 posts all game up to N2 LOL. I just can't see that happening.

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It can be both maybe. I dunno if motivated modifier is Normal, even if so that seems even rarer than it just being scum using 2 abilities.

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VOTE: Davesaz

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We are not seriously going to lynch Uzi on the off chance Davesaz is a motivated town doctor.

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I really can't think of who the fuck WOULDN'T protect me though?

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Like after that Shadow_step flip, all town protection should have been on me pretty much.

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Rolecop is often a scumrole anyway and makes sense for scum since we've had an Innocent Child flip, I'm JOAT and there's also a protective role in this game somewhere most likely.

What's a town rolecop gonna be for in this game? Maybe maf have more PR's but I honestly can't see a town rolecop making sense.

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Also why would a town rolecop check me of all people?

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time2lynch thisscum

but if this isn't last scum, who we gonna kill day4?

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Gamma/JarJar/Uzi I guess is the pool. I dunno, been less focussed on those slots since I've had better scumreads so far.

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Forgot KTS existed in this game too, but his play so far doesn't fit scum parameters as much as the others.

Uzi I actually fariyl strongly townread but block+nokill does make sense - although maybe not since Davesaz most likely tried to kill me and I was protected.

I'd be lynching from Gamma/JarJar/Zach.

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In fact I'm fairly sure that all investigative/blocking roles should be focussed within those 3.

Sort JarJar first. He's very opinionated and I can't identify much in the way of towntells - might just be his style but I can see him as being the type of player to be good lategame. His slot should get sorted first, then Zach and then Gamma.

My Watcher target I'm not revealing.

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Sort JarJar first. He's very opinionated and I can't identify much in the way of towntells - might just be his style but I can see him as being the type of player to be good lategame.

I'm good late game, early game and in between game. So I had a bad read on you. It happens.

I also have a pretty good record of leading wagons on scum like u do. I read u wrong day 1 and u rushed shit on day 2.

See that's why you shouldn't speedlynch wagons regardless of how sure u are of your read. Wouldn't it be nice to know how I would have reacted to the shadow lynch?

No.

Sort this slot tonight.

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Thr targets were KTS + myself. I'm likely protected as an obvious NK choice.

Well, I protected you last night, and I think the kill may have gone to you.

Omg thanks babe ur da best <333

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Basically this day isn't ending any other way and if left for a long time scum are gonna try real hard to wifom the shit out of us because they know it ends no other way. We powerlynch davesaz and then force scum to beat us with daygame tomorrow and beyond imo.

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GG guys.

I was really banking on there being a 4th scum. That's a really strong town, damn.

I really do stand by what I said earlier in this game that this site has a meta for making towns way stronger at night than they need to be. Town have bad daygames here because they're so used to being given a power. I'm much more used to setups like (3 goons vs. 1 cop and 9 VT) - huge emphasis on daygame and there's no mechanical clears for conftown and you can't rely on investigative. With no protection they often claim with a single guilty and town still has to win 2v8 with no PR.

Just my POV, I've been in a few games now where towns win at night despite scum completely destroying them in the daygame (not that scum won daygame here) and I think that sucks. Town should always 'win' the daygame or make a big contest out of it, more PR roles actually takes away from the game and makes it more one-dimensional (even though that sounds weird).

Also yes pls nominate me for a scummy everyone <3<3

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some of you guys better nominate me for a scummy award or i'll be really mad and not do anything about it

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whats ur category

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pls respond

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what do u even get if u win, i've never even heard of this shit.

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sounds really gay lol

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i will be a rising star

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as the man who isnt could not try to join only in would june, i should it be nominate for it

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Hi, reviewer for this game here.

I really do stand by what I said earlier in this game that this site has a meta for making towns way stronger at night than they need to be. Town have bad daygames here because they're so used to being given a power. I'm much more used to setups like (3 goons vs. 1 cop and 9 VT) - huge emphasis on daygame and there's no mechanical clears for conftown and you can't rely on investigative. With no protection they often claim with a single guilty and town still has to win 2v8 with no PR.

I mean, hate to point it out, but cop is a reliable investigative with mechanical clears. Mods on MS have moved away from that because it was seen as boring, and your role had 3 options for that. Where a cop has 3 options for a guilty every night, tracker and follower have to pick the shooting scum or run the risk of providing false inno's, voyeur can't even manage that. The neapolitan, has only false guilties as any PR triggers it as well. Gif as a modern mod wanted to have town play with imperfect information, and if it hadn't been for your meddling perfect play of your role ( ) he would have gotten away with it as well. I think if you play this game with random players 10 times, in maybe one or two games the JoaT would get one guilty out of that role. I think it trivialises how silly much you got out of an essentially pretty useless role to say that the setup was very townsided.

The doc, you are right, was the clear power town got, and it got mobilized by a strong townie. That's the nature of the role. The rest though, was unclear (the neapolitan), or weak (day 3 IC, JoaT, even night rb basically in that order). In a 13 player game with no scum power, that's about expected, I think, but GIF wanted scum to have some fun toys, balanced by one more lynch. I think that's about an expected setup, which is where the next problem arises.

I don't quite know where the feeling comes from that MS puts a lot of power in games, in themes perhaps. Otherwise, just like GIF has done, MS has hollowed out towns power to make it less clear, more gamey, moving away from roles like cops, and through the years they never used all that many powerroles anyway. That has had it's impact on winrates. A game like all others, "about expected", is scumsided in nearly every case, for years on end. If you go through the stats, and some people have, it's hard to see that MS has produced any obviously townsided normals, despite scum claiming that occasionally after a loss. This one, if I take an educated guess was at best balanced, but likely I think scum wins this more than 50%. The setup didn't win this game for you in such spectacular fashion: the town did.

I agree to an extent. It could have just been Doc + JOAT and we still would have wrecked the game, that's a fair call.

But I think that's why it's good for the "meta" to be on not overpowering the towns: they don't need it. If town players actually focus on daygame, scum have it really hard. 1 cop is very limited too and with no protective you'll basically get 1 guilty, claim and die.

So it's not gamebreaking and also, there's no massclaim bullshit. All these ways to mechanically clear people late game with 1-shot tracks and shit, plus deputy and so on..fark man. It's not about the hard guilties it's that there's SO MANY powers all up..

Yes okay I would have carried this game and 4 PR's were obsolete but eh, whatever that's only because we got early guilties. If we didn't, I doubt town loses lategame here. If I want to see the games I like I should just mod though I guess.

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Gg. I agree town was OPd. Scum should probably have had 4, but the OPd setup didn't even factor in. RB basically got lucky day 1 and chose right the next nights.

Son my kraska meta is infallible it's not luck. I was onto her early and was never letting goOoooOoOoooOoo

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ofc it was, i was just baiting to see what u did after

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that makes us even

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I'm pretty phenomenal i agree, you should all nominate me for a scummy.