Mini Normal 1857 (Game Over - Mafia Wins!)

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First!

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VOTE: Shannon

Hey girl!

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OMG SCUM ^^^^^

It's always the lurkers.

It's the red.

he claimed! will come back later and be like "haha I blatantly claimed in my first post, ya know, where I excused my lurkage for the rest of the Day" or someshit

Monday afternoon will come eventually... and he will pay for his transgressions.

Or more likely, we all just forget about him.

Her*

Why is it more likely that we will forget about her?

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@Sesq:

Oh I don't really care about the gender thing, more curious as to why you assumed she'd be forgotten. Pinged me a bit but I'll take your word for it.

pedit:

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Sesq reads newb town to me.

Sesq:

Just take your time and let things come naturally. Before you do though, could you tell me who you find to be most suspicious person on your wagon?

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I'm not really seeing any scum intent in her posts though, she's just running around like a headless chicken.

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VOTE: rb

Mind sharing why?

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if I wanted to at the time of the vote I would

How confident are you in your vote accomplishing something? On a scale of 1-10?

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VOTE: rb

Mind sharing why?

Fear vote imo. At least it's what I'll tell myself to feel good.

Maybe. I don't think he liked your vote on Sesq but at the same time I don't think that's the case because he said he was going to let things stew. His vote reads a little off to me because I thought he would wait a bit more before laying down a serious vote.

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if I wanted to at the time of the vote I would

How confident are you in your vote accomplishing something? On a scale of 1-10?

Sorry for taking so long to respond. On my wagon, I think the scummiest is probably ssbm, for voting for no reason. Again, might have been a joke, but I want to think we're at least partially out of RvS. As for scumreads on anyone... idk... rb seems a bit excited about things. Too excited, almost. He also was the third person on my wagon, so take that as you will. I'm taking a "nobody reads as anything, not voting" stance.

It's cool. SSBM originally at first randomly voted and then said he's keeping vote because he doesn't understand why you went back to RVS after Transcend believed that we were still in RVS.

rb is just trying to get the game moving, I noticed he tends to hate games moving at barely a crawl.

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if I wanted to at the time of the vote I would

How confident are you in your vote accomplishing something? On a scale of 1-10?

Sorry for taking so long to respond. On my wagon, I think the scummiest is probably ssbm, for voting for no reason. Again, might have been a joke, but I want to think we're at least partially out of RvS. As for scumreads on anyone... idk... rb seems a bit excited about things. Too excited, almost. He also was the third person on my wagon, so take that as you will. I'm taking a "nobody reads as anything, not voting" stance.

It's cool. SSBM originally at first randomly voted and then said he's keeping his vote because he doesn't understand why you went back to RVS after Transcend believed that we were still in RVS.

rb is just trying to get the game moving, I noticed he tends to hate games moving at barely a crawl.

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if I wanted to at the time of the vote I would

How confident are you in your vote accomplishing something? On a scale of 1-10?

Sorry for taking so long to respond. On my wagon, I think the scummiest is probably ssbm, for voting for no reason. Again, might have been a joke, but I want to think we're at least partially out of RvS. As for scumreads on anyone... idk... rb seems a bit excited about things. Too excited, almost. He also was the third person on my wagon, so take that as you will. I'm taking a "nobody reads as anything, not voting" stance.

It's cool. SSBM originally at first randomly voted and then said he's keeping vote because he doesn't understand why you went back to RVS after Transcend believed that we were still in RVS.

rb is just trying to get the game moving, I noticed he tends to hate games moving at barely a crawl.

I fail to see how weird RVS junk makes anyone scum though :/

I will agree with rb, I have similar impulses.

Well the whole point of RVS is to catch hidden motives couched in the jokes and the shit posting.

While it usually works out in the end, this site does tend to go a little overboard reading into RVS. Somethings are really just silliness and NAI.

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Can you enlighten me on what NAI means? Wiki doesn't have it on their abbreviation page, and I don't remember it from 2013.

Non-Alignment-Indicative.

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I really should be in bed instead of laughing so hard this late at night.

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UNVOTE:

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What's the case against rb? Are you guys just finding his votes bad or is there something else I'm missing?

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I mean you put rb at L-2 without starting that you did when you could've just said you're checking in and catching up.

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ya'll over-react to L-2 wayyy too much

Hell, you over-react to L-1 too much

if you think somenoe is scummy, vote for them, if they get to L-2, they get to L-2, if then someone wants to take them to L-1, then they take them to L-1, and we watch and judge and take notes and then we wait for a claim, or for people who don't want their vote there anymore to go off, if a claim comes, we go from there

if a hammer comes before a claim, it's a policy lynch the next day, we found scum, the wagon was valuable, yes we lost a townie, but, that is how the game goes...no reason to put that to a stop as far as I see...hammer without a claim IS scum, simple as that...

why tell scum to not do something that will out them as scum?

I'm just being aware and cautious, not trying to delay the game. I don't see the case for rb other than the bad votes so I asked to see if anyone could give me a reason to join the wagon. Would you say those who haven't answered my question are impeding the game by not being informative? I don't think you would.

And was the bolded a scum slip? I never said I was scum reading Impoetic and I never told her to not do what she just did.

VOTE: Drealm

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And was the bolded a scum slip? I never said I was scum reading Impoetic and I never told her to not do what she just did.

ohman, SRing even harder now

you did exactly that, said "nono, don't do that!" oof, I never said it was directed at impoetic even, it was a general stance you took

anyway...I'm tired

hard SR here

Thing is I never took that stance, reread. Stop misrepresenting.

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Thing is I never took that stance, reread. Stop misrepresenting.

okay so you're okay if the wagon were to build to L-2, L-1, claim, + lynch in the next hour?

If intent was declared and everyone had a chance to discuss the claim, sure. I'm not quite understanding what this has to do with you misrepresentation of recent events though.

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Thing is I never took that stance, reread. Stop misrepresenting.

okay so you're okay if the wagon were to build to L-2, L-1, claim, + lynch in the next hour?

If intent was declared and everyone had a chance to discuss the claim, sure. I'm not quite understanding what this has to do with you misrepresentation of recent events though.

you are so scummy, dude

I'm not misrepping, I was trying to get shit straight

and you're just muddying it more

You are though.

You claim I'm impeding the game and that I told Impoetic not to put people at L-2 without stating ever again. When all I did was ask for the case on rb and said what Impoetic could have did. You didn't ask for clarification, you simply gave your take on what I assume is your belief on doing what she did and then voted for me.

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OMG, again

I didn't reference anything you said to impoetic

Didn't read that way which is why I think it's a scum slip.

But even if we take that out of the equation, why did you think I was impeding the game when I had asked for the case on rb on the same page? You didn't even think rb was scum at the time since if I recall correctly you said you voted out of fear, so why did go on about what Impoetic did being okay?

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Answer questions and stop spamming.

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What movie is it Jae?

Uhhh it was Sausage Party >.> Now it's Crimson Peak.

Easily the best comedy of the year.

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I think theres scum in Impo/sesq/drealmerz/someone else i forgot the name of but i think Impo is the worst pick of the bunch

Was it Drone? His entrance was a little awkward and felt kind of forced.

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Yeah I'm down with either Drealm or Impo. Don't get the sesq scum reads though.

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Sesq is awkward af and plays the newbie card too much for my liking + I don't like the way they got on and then off my wagon.

I noticed but I think it's understandable if she's telling the truth about not having played forum mafia in over 3 years. I liked of all serious votes so far but I don't understand why she hopped off Impoetic and didn't hop on Drealm. I can see why you don't since it seems like was just sheeping everyone else's reason for why your wagon formed and why it dissolved.

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Sesq is awkward af and plays the newbie card too much for my liking + I don't like the way they got on and then off my wagon.

I noticed but I think it's understandable if she's telling the truth about not having played forum mafia in over 3 years. I liked al of her serious votes so far but I don't understand why she hopped off Impoetic and didn't hop on Drealm. I can see why you don't since it seems like was just sheeping everyone else's reason for why your wagon formed and why it dissolved.

EBWOP

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and drealmerz is making less and less sense to the point i can't just chalk it up to him being derptown

I'm hoping it was just a tantrum and he'll come clarify some things when he logs back on.

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Welcome back drone. Excellent analysis.

I'm off to bed. It's almost 3 am.

Aw shit, you're going to bed. I was gonna ask you to translate, as not only do I have no idea what he's saying to me (other than that he wasn't liking me), but I'm not faring much better with translating his analyses with other players.

I want to knoooooow

I think he's questioning why you think the rb wagon was a joke and saying that Drealm was making a big deal out of nothing.

I think he's scum reading TTTT because his case on rb looked try hard.

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okay ttt and ssbm i can't be fucked reading this game

LETS FORM A TOWN BLOC

let's add 2 more people

imo drone and rabbit!?!?!??! rabbit and drealmerz??? idk . . .. .

SSBM seems like he'll be easy read. TTTT's avi is just beyond creepy so it's going to be a pain when you have to ISO him.

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Bloody hell the game is growing as I'm trying to reply to stuff. And I'm having a hard time keeping everyone straight. OK, whatevs, here we go:

(PS - I've managed to leave my charger at work so I won't be back tonight probably)

you're most likely town because statistically most people are town in the game, and the argument against me is assuming you're town so there's no point in considering the other scenario

Are you seriously town reading someone because statistically they are more likely to be town? Wtf?

Uhhh yeah this read to me like someone is making a town read based on scum knowledge, and then trying to cover their ass.

@mod can TTTT get a different avatar i legit had nightmares about it

Vote for everyone to have labradorable avs like transcend <3

I can't fall asleep so...

My biggest problem with Transcend town reading rabbit is that he had less than 10 posts - most not very substantial - by the time Transcend TR'd him.

I need to go back and check this, but had Bunny contributed much in these 10 posts? Was there a general vibe of towniness from the slot, in spite of so few posts? I disagree (in general) that oyu can't get a town read on someone from just a few posts, but in this specific instance you might be right. (Wanna quotey spoiler Bunny's 10 posts and save me the leg work/battery power?)

okay i have an open question for people who've played with other people in this game

please point out all known filthy bussers ahead of time so they get less towncred for lynching scum lmao

I have played with Transcend and Lil Uzi (LUV). LUV was scum but got caught, can't remember what alignment Transcend was as it was a while ago. I remember catching Uzi but I don't remember whether he bussed (too focused on my glorious town victory).

Don't remind them, I was so close that game.

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i think kohai might be my top scumread but i need to re eval

i keep wanting to sleep and then not doing it

Why Kohai?

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I'm mainly scum reading Impoetic because I think Drealm scum slipped but I saw a few of her explanations earlier and it give me some pause and her recent tune is relatively easy to fake so there is something there for me to look at if I'm wrong about Drealm.

Her recent tune doesn't really feel natural at all, at least from how she was defending herself before. She seemed a lot more confident when she the accusations were first coming down. However being defensive isn't scummy, it's a character trait. So if any of you are voting her for that, please move your vote.

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Scum Pool

rb
iron
LUV
Kohai

Explain the Iron read. He's null for me right now.

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Wouldn't say VI, maybe aloof but the holidays are or were a thing I guess.

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I'm mainly scum reading Impoetic because I think Drealm scum slipped but I saw a few of her explanations earlier and it give me some pause and her recent tune is relatively easy to fake so there for me to look at if I'm wrong about Drealm.

Her recent tune doesn't really feel natural at all, at least from how she was defending herself before. She seemed a lot more confident when the accusations were first coming down. However being defensive isn't scummy, it's a character trait. So if any of you are voting her for that, please move your vote.

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I'm mainly scum reading Impoetic because I think Drealm scum slipped but I saw a few of her explanations earlier and it give me some pause and her recent tune is relatively easy to fake so there is something for me to look at if I'm wrong about Drealm.

Her recent tune doesn't really feel natural at all, at least from how she was defending herself before. She seemed a lot more confident when the accusations were first coming down. However being defensive isn't scummy, it's a character trait. So if any of you are voting her for that, please move your vote.

EBWOP.

I think I got it now.

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I was and still am willing to work out which is why I asked those questions last night but you ran away.

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I was willing to work out which is why I asked those questions last night but you ran away.

EBWOP

Cannot type today.

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Iron seemed to imply he was going to seriously start playing the game Monday when he mentioned Thanksgiving so I'm giving him the benefit of doubt for now.

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Fluffy earlier insisted on not being town read for some reason, makes me wonder if he's worried about people seeing that his posts are designed to have people TR him.

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SSBM:

Not at all, it's just one of the reasons that I could of think of for why he doesn't want to be so easily TR. Nothing else really stood out to me other than his thoughts on Kohai.

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SSBM:

Not really sure why Fluffy feels the way he does about Kohai. I want to say it's for Kohai's comment on Drone's catch-up like post and analysis of TTTT's vote on rb but it doesn't look that way.

Drealm:

Whenever your ready man. I'm not in a rush and I totally understand being exhausted after the holidays.

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Fluffy:

Why are you assuming town should do certain things and react in certain ways? People aren't computers, they're human. Meaning they're unpredictable. Throw out everything you know about town tells and try to look at the motivation of SSBM's posts. I don't see any scum motivation from SSBM after a quick glance of his ISO so when you get a chance, please point out what you see.

As for Transcend, he's just one of those players you have to hope roll with town if you're town. He's a pretty difficult read. This is my third game with him and I've determined it's best to have him as null until the endgame or wait until he's cleared via a PR. I get it though. You can't read him and you're frustrated about that but the soft defending you claim SSBM's doing doesn't mean that he or Transcend is scum.

@Impoetic:

I bolded it in my 180. It read like he knew you were scum. I acknowledge that I might have misunderstood his comment and gave him some questions to answer in my 221.

I don't really understand what you're trying to say about what I believe to be my first acknowledgement of Fluffy. I'm also not sure why you're mentioning that we didn't take away the same things from Fluffy's comments about being TR so easily.

I do think scum can have that thought process because I have had it as scum.

I'm not saying that you were scummy for your tone being less confident. That's not why I'm scum reading you, it's what I'm noting in case I'm wrong about Drealm. I just read your tone as confident and a little cocky when you were first getting shit about the joke vote and putting rb at L-2 unannounced and it seems different here.

I think your question about scum and confidence depends on the person.

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Fluffy:

Why are you assuming town should do certain things and react in certain ways? People aren't computers, they're human. Meaning they're unpredictable. Throw out everything you know about town tells and try to look at the motivation of SSBM's posts. I don't see any scum motivation from SSBM after a quick glance of his ISO so when you get a chance, please point out what you see.

As for Transcend, he's just one of those players you have to hope roll with town if you're town. He's a pretty difficult read. This is my third game with him and I've determined it's best to have him as null until the endgame or wait until he's cleared via a PR. I get it though. You can't read him and you're frustrated about that but the soft defending you claim SSBM's doing doesn't mean that he or Transcend is scum.

@Impoetic:

I bolded it in my 180. It read like he knew you were scum. I acknowledge that I might have misunderstood his comment and gave him some questions to answer in my 221.

I don't really understand what you're trying to say about what I believe to be my first acknowledgement of Fluffy. I'm also not sure why you're mentioning that we didn't take away the same things from Fluffy's comments about being TR so easily.

I do think scum can have that thought process because I have had it as scum.

I'm not saying that you were scummy for your tone being less confident. That's not why I'm scum reading you, it's what I'm noting in case I'm wrong about Drealm. I just read your tone as confident and a little cocky when you were first getting shit about the joke vote and putting rb at L-2 unannounced and it seems different here.

I think your question about scum and confidence depends on the person.

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I feel outside of being blantly anti-town, it's the only tell.

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Didn't even realized I posted that twice. What the hell?

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@Transcend: That's typical Shannon, NAI in my book honestly.

@TTTT: You should have played on your main. I'm missing the elephant.

@SSBM: Why do you think I'm scum?

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I think he's trying to say you're not yourself Shannon.

Odd approach Drone had taken this game. Talking in riddles is something I gotta try one day.

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@SSBM:

That feeling you're getting is me either trying to understand or understanding a case on someone and realizing the main or majority of the reasons for said case is NAI. I also never voted for Impoetic.

I don't understand the problem with 459, I'm just simply going by off of what Iron said. I'm not going to vote someone for obvious shit posting and filler when they claimed they would play serious today. They have yet to deliver though and today at least EST time is basically over so my suspicion has gone up, but I mean other then what I just said, there isn't a case on Iron. My vote is going to remain on Drealm until my questions get answered, someone scums it up more than him in my eyes, or I have to compromise.

My comments on Fluffy is just a thing I do where I select notes I have taken that I feel are worth putting out there for discussion or potentially the most relevant

Shannon is just a meta read honestly and rb's silence is a bit worrying. Almost seems like he's laid low to take the heat off him.

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Iron:

My first four games on here I got mislynched because I was trying a ton of new things at once rather than just adding things to my game slowly. I stopped doing that the first time I rolled scum and ever since then I haven't been what many would consider lynchbait. I can give you a completed town and scum game that accurately describes how I play since I play relatively the same as either alignment.

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Is everyone scum reading Kohai for failing to deliver on his promises? Do you guys think he's trying to stall for 6-10 days?

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I find it easier to call him the former.

I don't find Kohai's tone scummy but thanks confirming what I suspected. I'm going to ask again, do you guys think he's trying to stall?

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I find it easier to call him the former.

I don't find Kohai's tone scummy but thanks confirming for what I suspected. I'm going to ask again, do you guys think he's trying to stall?

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Reread his ISO and it starts sort of going downhill right around his 268. His 268 feels like a terrible attempt to town tell. I don't believe he didn't know what rb meant after having explained to someone earlier what v/LA means. His 455 feels like fake outrage and an attempt to make people believe he's strongly scum reading Iron. He then quickly follows it up with an awful vote on Iron in 457. All this without even attempting to understand any of Iron's thoughts and motives.

That being said his town reads feel genuine so I'm not sure but I'm starting to feel sold on Kohai being scum.

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Looks like I'm going to have to compromise but I don't think I will mind, Iron's meta dive on rb was very convincing.

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Stop reaching.

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My thoughts on him are in 736.

It's reaching because you're implying your case was so strong that he faked health problems in order to avoid facing pressure. People are human and there are things that are a lot more important than this site.

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Oh fucking lord am I really going to get shit from people about this? AND YOU ARE ALL BUYING IT LIKE HE'S REALLY SICK LMFAO. I'M SORRY IF I DOUBT THE AUTHENTICITY OF HIS EXCUSE TO LEAVE THE GAME.

]YEA I'M A TERRIBLE PERSON BECAUSE I'M CALLING OUT HIS OBV SCUM PLAY LIKE THIS OMG UR SUCH A BAD GUY FOR NOT BELIEVING HE'S REALLY SICK SHAME ON YOU BS THAT I'M GETTING RIGHT NOW LOL.

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rb should be due for a prod soon right?

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Kyouko, why have you not addressed the explanation I gave on why you're doubtful about my alignment? This is making me start to think that you've made up your mind already and aren't willing to listen to what I have to say. If so, that's disappointing.

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Kyouko

: I haven't been putting anything off. You know as I well I do that you can't force someone to sit down and talk if they don't want to, especially in this case with the majority showing no interest in joining the call to hold him accountable. He's clearly shown no drive or intuitive in wanting to correct things and there is nothing I can do but hope others see the light and join that call. In the meantime, I'm going continue to look for his partners. I was very sold on the meta dive by Iron on rb and seeing as I've played quite a few games with rb where he was town I think I can safely say he's not town this game. The whole I'm not really feeling mafia excuse doesn't really fly with me either since replacing out is always an option if you aren't feeling motivated to play.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: rb

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Gerry should have a bigger wagon.

non-voters should be voting

Why?

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Iron, you keep talking about how quickly the rb wagon has grown but won't say who you find to me the most suspicious on it. It's starting to look like you're just creating a lot of noise on purpose here.

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rb is at L-1. Please do not hammer without a claim and until everyone has had a chance to discuss said claim.

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Iron, you keep talking about how quickly the rb wagon has grown but won't say who you find to me the most suspicious on it. It's starting to look like you're just creating a lot of noise on purpose here.

Are you fucking serious? Have you read any of my posts?

Your scum reading Transcend for wanting someone to drop the hammer, not for him being on the wagon. Correct?

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I mean your most recent posts made it seem like that was the reason.

Transcend asking for someone to hammer without a claim is worrying but I'm not sure scum would blatantly act like he's been recently acting with rb at L-1. I personally think we have gotten everything we are going to get out of the day and it may be beneficial to just let it end if we are not satisfied with what rb has to say. It will give Gerry time to catch up and everyone else much needed time to reevaluate.

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The lynch seems easy because rb isn't here to defend himself and when he's here he doesn't seem to really be trying.

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This lynch seems easy because rb isn't here to defend himself and when he's here he doesn't seem to really be trying.

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Uh, I did edit that post and the ones before where I've done that.

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The edit is actually right there. I mean't this instead of the.

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You're not actually reading my posts are you Iron?

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tempted to hammer before scum can abandon this wagon

Please don't.

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@TTTT:

His slot should be wiped cleaned, the predecessor of the slot should have no effect on how you read Gerry and he just replaced in. Your request for more votes seems unreasonable, especially considering that you seem to have a lot more reasons for wanting people jump on his wagon that you won't share.

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@TTTT:

His slot should be wiped cleaned, the predecessor of the slot should have no effect on how you read Gerry and he just replaced in. Your request for more votes is unreasonable, especially considering that you seem to have a lot more reasons for wanting people to jump on his wagon that you won't share.

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Yeah but you're really not giving us good reasons to join said counter wagon. Just saying the predecessor of his slot played bad and Gerry won't contribute when he just replaced in isn't enough.

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UNVOTE:

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Transcend, I know. We still need everyone else to talk about these claims first, I don't want anyone doing anything rash.

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Welcome Titus!

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Why TTTT? His push on Gerry is a little suspicious but I haven't seen anything that's really given me pause.

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Why TTTT? His push on Gerry is a little suspicious but I haven't seen anything that's really given me pause.

Why aren't you voting a scum read then? TTT's posts since I subbed in pinged me. So I voted.

No one wants to lynch D7/Impoetic so I'm forced to compromise. It won't be for TTTT though.

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Why TTTT? His push on Gerry is a little suspicious but I haven't seen anything that's really given me pause.

Why aren't you voting a scum read then? TTT's posts since I subbed in pinged me. So I voted.

No one wants to lynch D7/Impoetic so I'm forced to compromise. It won't be for TTTT though.

Why do you? Why don't they? Why aren't you voting? It's better than no lynch. Do you need permission to vote?

1.) I explained why earlier and his recent attack on rb only makes me want to more.

2.) I have no idea. Almost feels like scum pulling the strings in order to stray attention away from him.

3.) Town hasn't reached a consensus yet and I believe who was the previous consensus claim so I'm not lynching there today.

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No one wants to lynch D7/Impoetic so I'm forced to compromise.

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You're not reading my posts Titus. Let's try something else.

What specifically pinged you about TTTT?

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As in, which posts and why?

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My second choice is Impoetic because of my case on D7. Both are unlikely to be lynched because no one else wants to lynch them, which means I will be throwing away my vote if I vote for either one of them. rb seemed like the play before he claimed and since I believe he's town and his claim, I won't be lynching there today. TTTT is trying to make Gerry the play and I don't agree there and now you're trying to make TTTT the play. I want you to convince me on your choice since my preferred choice is clearly not happening today.

Understand now?

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We differ in playstyle. That's it really.

I can see that. He's shown glimpses here and there of that with his case on rb earlier and now this Gerry thing. The latter is making me suspicious but on the other hand, I haven't seen anything from Gerry that warrants a TR.

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Thank you

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Transcend, what if you agree to help us lynch D7 and then if he somehow flips town, we'll lynch rb tomorrow?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Like I almost agreed with your B point but D7 is on the wagon and Gerry does look suspect but there is like no real case for him.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I'm just not sold on any of wagons currently but I'm this close to Gerry honestly since we have like 3 days left

[Lil Uzi Vert]

@Kyouko: Us is referring to me and everyone else who is scum reading D7.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

@Kyouko:

Us is referring to me and everyone else who is scum reading D7.

EBWOP

[Lil Uzi Vert]

@Kyouko: Us is referring to me and everyone else who is scum reading D7.

who dey?

rb and I believe Drone.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

The elephant is back!

[Lil Uzi Vert]

uhhh, I don't know bout imp being lynched, neutral about TTTT and fine with LUV something about him is off.

What feels off about me?

VOTE: Lil uzi vert

Mind explaining?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I mean I just type 'em in one go so I really don't know what to say.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Iron, your paranoia is starting to show again. I'm not scum.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Wow I hate being wrong.

So I'm feeling a lot better about D7 for town now. I tunneled foolishly there Day 1.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Okay wait I don't think I ever absorbed who D7 was. Sorry for the dumb question, but who is that? Or do you mean like, when it hits 7 people or something? :s

predit: sorry oops, that was unclear. Transcend was obvious town and an obvious kill (in reference to the flip) and cool as in we lynched mafia. I only checked transcend's actual role after people brought it up so i didn't see he was a JOAT immediately.

D7 = Drealmerz7

[Lil Uzi Vert]

My reads are all messed up right now but I'm pretty confident in Kyouko, Sesq, and Shannon for town.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Confident =/= Feeling better

[Lil Uzi Vert]

My reads are all messed up right now but I'm pretty confident in Kyouko, Sesq, and Shannon for town.

Explain, please.

I like a lot of the effort that Kyouko is putting in to solving the game. It could be faked but I don't get that from him. He seems to be considering every and any angle, investigating and reevaluating as much as he can, and following up with actual cases that force everyone to engage with him and the game itself.

You still read quite new to me and I don't see any scum intent in your posts.

I've been informed that Shannon didn't go anywhere last night and while that doesn't confirm anything, it makes me a feel whole lot better about my meta read on her.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

My reads are all messed up right now but I'm pretty confident in Kyouko, Sesq, and Shannon for town.

Explain, please.

I like a lot of the effort that Kyouko is putting in to solving the game. It could be faked but I don't get that from him. He seems to be considering every and any angle, investigating and reevaluating as much as he can, and following up with actual cases that force everyone to engage with him and the game itself.

You still read quite new to me and I don't see any scum intent in your posts.

I've been informed that Shannon didn't go anywhere last night and while that doesn't confirm anything, it makes me a feel whole lot better about my meta read on her.

@LUV: What did you mean by "my reads are all messed up right now"? Also, are you: claiming tracker; claiming that there exists an amnesiac (I think that's the modifier that sends your results to another player at random) tracker; choosing not to reveal that much yet?

@Shannon: Feel free to not comment on this for now if you so choose. If you went somewhere last night and are comfortable revealing that then let us know so we can lynch a liar, but if it's not worth revealing yet hold off.

I didn't think rb would flip town. I have to reevaluate sometime tonight.

I'm a one 1-shot town tracker.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

My reads are all messed up right now but I'm pretty confident in Kyouko, Sesq, and Shannon for town.

Explain, please.

I like a lot of the effort that Kyouko is putting in to solving the game. It could be faked but I don't get that from him. He seems to be considering every and any angle, investigating and reevaluating as much as he can, and following up with actual cases that force everyone to engage with him and the game itself.

You still read quite new to me and I don't see any scum intent in your posts.

I've been informed that Shannon didn't go anywhere last night and while that doesn't confirm anything, it makes me a feel whole lot better about my meta read on her.

@LUV: What did you mean by "my reads are all messed up right now"? Also, are you: claiming tracker; claiming that there exists an amnesiac (I think that's the modifier that sends your results to another player at random) tracker; choosing not to reveal that much yet?

@Shannon: Feel free to not comment on this for now if you so choose. If you went somewhere last night and are comfortable revealing that then let us know so we can lynch a liar, but if it's not worth revealing yet hold off.

I didn't think rb would flip town. I have to reevaluate sometime tonight.

I'm a 1-shot town tracker.

EBWOP

[Lil Uzi Vert]

My reads are all messed up right now but I'm pretty confident in Kyouko, Sesq, and Shannon for town.

Explain, please.

I like a lot of the effort that Kyouko is putting in to solving the game. It could be faked but I don't get that from him. He seems to be considering every and any angle, investigating and reevaluating as much as he can, and following up with actual cases that force everyone to engage with him and the game itself.

You still read quite new to me and I don't see any scum intent in your posts.

I've been informed that Shannon didn't go anywhere last night and while that doesn't confirm anything, it makes me a feel whole lot better about my meta read on her.

@LUV: What did you mean by "my reads are all messed up right now"? Also, are you: claiming tracker; claiming that there exists an amnesiac (I think that's the modifier that sends your results to another player at random) tracker; choosing not to reveal that much yet?

@Shannon: Feel free to not comment on this for now if you so choose. If you went somewhere last night and are comfortable revealing that then let us know so we can lynch a liar, but if it's not worth revealing yet hold off.

Potential setup:
1x Town JOAT
1x Town Tracker
8x VT

1x Mafia JOAT (Strongman, Ninja, Roleblocker?)
1x Mafia Rolecop
1x Mafia Goon

that setup spec is not good

I'm figure LUV is scum (even scum-tracker, but not necessarily), claims result to clear scum-buddy figuring it is safe (doesn't actually claim a role) and with JOAT for town it is safe - if he is scumtracker even more confidence for him to claim a result on someone, and then it opens the possibility of him claiming it on a townie that he's got it on for the towncred

if someone else is an investigation role, I say we lynch LUV cause I don't see 2 inv roles for town this game.

I didn't go anywhere last night. I can't offer any counter to LUV's claim or any useful info about it, I don't think.

As D7 says, that proves nothing about either of us, unfortunately, except that I didn't kill Transcend, nor try to save/investigate anyone, unless I'm a ninja which would be cool but I'm not.

@LUV why did you give a result on me, given that it proves nothing?

I'm a 1-shot town tracker and since scum are going to try frame me for not being on the rb wagon I'd figure I should get out this information now before I don't have a chance to.

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It's not bull. This setup is very much possible and looking at past mini-normals will tell you that.

Why would I want a lynch to form on me when I know I'm town? I gave reads and I was told to explain them.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I followed Shannon and received that she didn't go anywhere last night.

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I obviously meant scum.

As to why I tracked Shannon as opposed to D7 and Impoetic, it's quite simple. rb flipped scum. I didn't expect that, I thought she was slipping under the radar way more than anyone else in the game, and I didn't find a D7/Impo/RB team likely based on how hard rb was pushing D7. Yeah I could've used my shot on Drone or Iron but gut won out and choose Shannon.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Gut says Gerry, brain says could be anyone at this point.

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@Kyouko:

Been back and forth lately until I reread and realized that D7 stopped scum reading Titus for not voting for rb and started scum reading her for the reasoning on town reading rb. I really like this observation from him so I'm back to feeling better about his alignment. Titus blatantly lying about Drone and justifying it by saying it's ancient history as if it's Day 4 and not Day 2 makes me think think the likelihood of the chances of D7 being her partner is very slim. I also don't like the recent little back and forth she had with Sesq. As fun as cat fights can be, I didn't get a town vibe from the questions she asked Sesq. Felt like scum trying to shift the attention away from the bigger picture. So in short, no, I'm not scum reading Impoetic anymore. Could you explain your theory on her being scum again?

@Shannon:

Your push on Transcend got fairly drowned out don't you think? Outside of Kyouko's notes, no one was really scum reading you outside of Transcend. I don't remember it ever being a big thing. You also have to remember, my reasoning for TR you was based on meta and that's not always a strong enough reason for a TR a majority of the time. As for why I joined the D7 wagon (interesting to know you started it as most people probably thought I did by how strongly I wanted to lynch him. another example of how under the radar you've been!) is because of my case I gave on him in 180.

I don't get your Impoetic vote, it seems like you're scum reading Iron more there.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

VOTE: Titus

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No. Stop.

You were just saying that Day 1 is ancient history when it's only Day 2. That doesn't make sense at all.

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Yeah I don't get that at all.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Not a case. Ignore him.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Not a case. Ignore him.

this looks really scummy/dismissive tbh

almost ready to vote you

It isn't. His case is basically I don't believe it's possible for a mini Normal to have two investigative roles and I only claimed because I didn't want to her lynched. The first point is false since you can ask any mod or look at past games to verify that such a setup is possible and the second is just dumb. Of course I don't want to get lynched. Who does?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Not a case. Ignore him.

this looks really scummy/dismissive tbh

almost ready to vote you

It isn't. His case is basically I don't believe it's possible for a mini Normal to have two investigative roles

and I only claimed because I didn't want to her lynched.

The first point is false since you can ask any mod or look at past games to verify that such a setup is possible and the

second is just dumb. Of course I don't want to get lynched.

Who does?

Just read this again...

Your answer is a bit of a non-sequitur. The accusation you quote is that you only claimed because you didn't want *her* (me) lynched. You counter that by calling it dumb, because 'of course I (you) don't want to get lynched'.

I think you've revealed your true purpose in the claim here, and it wasn't to give info on me, it was to save your own ass.

Anyone else see this or am I reading it wrong?

I meant get..

I claimed because I had to explain my TR on you.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Hey, anyone going to look at Drone or is this one of those games where we play ignore Titus, call her scummy, and just carry on?

it's like viva but multiple people and less stupid

anyway, looking back on LUV's response I'm pretty confident in that vote VOTE: Lil Uzi Vert

Sesq, I trusted you!

If I get lynched just sheep my final reads.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Oh didn't even realize Rask subbed in.

Hey!

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Hey guys, can we think logically? Why isn't it possible for there be a

1 shot

tracker in a game with a JOAT?

Why would Gerry continue to push such a nonsensical case?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Fine I'll spill, I'm actually a 2-shot follower. Didn't want to give it away but you guys won't leave things alone.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Fine I'll spill, I'm actually a 2-shot follower. Didn't want to give it away but you guys won't leave things alone.

Why the claim tracker originally?

So scum would think I'm useless and alllow me to use my last shot to potentially find one Night 2.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

No reason. Tracker, Voyeur, and Motion Dectetor all are under the same umbrella so I just picked one and went with it.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Leave Sesq alone!

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Fine I'll spill, I'm actually a 2-shot follower. Didn't want to give it away but you guys won't leave things alone.

Is this one of those things where you keep returning results and we find out you're actually a seventy five shot something or other?

But no this is the real deal.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Then vote Titus with us if you're town.

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Drone said nothing since I subbed in. So he took no stance. I don't ISO for ancient history. He avoided the thread entirely during the wagon.

Titus, this is your case on Drone. The majority of us have tossed it out the window because you kept referring to Day 1 as ancient history. If you can give me another reason on why I should vote Drone, please do.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Drone, how does your vote on end up on Rask there?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Drone, how does your vote end up on Rask there?

EBWOP

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Nice try TTTT!

Rask's case on Shannon is interesting at a glance, I'll have to sit down and read it tonight to see how I really feel about it.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

I'm down, since you guys won't do Titus.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Remind me of your SRs Titus? I'm feeling lazy on my phone atm

1846 basically.

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Sesq

, I trust you the most so my final reads are

Town: Kyouko, Shannon, and TTTT
Null: Rask, Impoetic
Null Scum: Drone, Gerry
Scum: D7, Titus

Please sheep them and lead the town to victory.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Hm. The fact that I haven't been hammered yet probably means scum is already on my wagon.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Self voting is for losers.

And nope, said everything I had to say to my strongest TR.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Damn Sesq got me good

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Well played