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[Lil Uzi Vert]

@Dark House:

My 191 was an attempt to prevent any confusion TB or anyone else may have had in regards to the abbreviation of the word homesite. I wasn't scum reading Drealm at the time or even in the right frame of mind to do so since I was still processing the Josh fiasco and was ultimately glad he was going to be replaced.

@NN:

I think you jumped a bit too high there when he called you TB's buddy. His tone seemed to imply he was joking when I first read that statement. I will admit that his first point and his fifth point about TB feel like a combination of reaching and nitpicking and then the 7th point from what I'm understanding is a very common scum tell. To me that point reads like a tell from one of the wiki guides and feels kind of outdated.

@Pine:

I'm having no trouble following the game, I was just explaining to DH the reason for my vote and also in a way how Day 1 went down really is no one's fault due to Josh's play.

[PenguinPower]

Summarize why PP is scum

Yes, please do. Take care not to misrep or twist words. Also, make sure to provide smoking gun evidence and utilize Occam's Razor in your thought process.

[PenguinPower]

PP, what opinions do you have on people other than TB and NN?

Only other person I like right now is Pine. I simply wasn't here for the majority of the short D1, a lot of my reads on people are doing through realtime interaction; and, there isn't a whole lot of content to go from aside from associations and limited vote counts.

[nn30]

Summarize why PP is scum

Yes, please do. Take care not to misrep or twist words. Also, make sure to provide smoking gun evidence and utilize Occam's Razor in your thought process.

This is one hell of a high bar, one which I will regrettably not be holding myself to.

I'll make a case after I've eaten dinner.

[PenguinPower]

Oh geez, yet I was expected to. Can you at least take care not to misrep or twist words? K. Thx.

[Pine]

Is nobody else seeing the merits of a PP scum read?

Really?

Not really. Pretty null to me.

PEdit: That was probably a joke. He might also have asked you to get the mod to confirm the case.

[nn30]

nn hard defending his scumbuddy? Lynch nn/TB for the win?

It's really just this right here.

He's been here since June. Not sure what this says about his experience level, but he's certainly not a newbie anymore.

1) Scum rarely, if ever, hard defend their scum buddy.
2) This post is making three separate assumptions
i) TB is scum due to his interactions with Dreamer
ii) I'm scum
iii) That I've decided that it's in my best interest to hard defend my scum partner

Penguin should have been here long enough to know post-flip associations are a big fat mess of WIFOM - figuring out exactly what it means is hard.

He's been here long enough that he should

certainly

know that pre-flip associations are just a load of crap.

So, he's taking his version of Dreamer's interactions with TB to indicate beyond a reasonable doubt that TB is scum. He then takes that, applies it to me, and uses it to assume that because I'm defending TB I also must be scum.

It's either bad town play or scum play.


I'm inclined to think that it's scum play - I've seen scum intentionally use associations between players (flipped and unflipped) to create 'cases' on people which should never have been there to begin with. When getting a mis-lynch fails, entertaining this many assumptions can masquerade as an attempt to 'solve the game' and earn the scum some town cred in the process.

Penguin has given me exactly 0 indiction that he's trying to solve the game. He's just throwing some low-effort crap at the wall and hoping a townie jumps on it (like the above quote - notice his lack of vote for me? He was hoping somebody else would do that for him).

@Town - Thoughts? I'm not interested in Penguin's perspective. He'll just try and talk his way out of it. I am willing to be swayed by the following people:

Garmr
Pine
Dark Horse
and maaaaaaaaybe LUV

[PenguinPower]

That's

your case? Wow.

K. So:
- Reaction test - which you didn't respond to well.
- Still Misrepping my TB scum read.
- Post-flip = good. Pre-flip = bad.
- Yes, I'm pushing my scum read hard - that's TB.
- Doesn't care what I say...confbias.

Awesome. You are a great asset to town. Thanks for joining.

[PenguinPower]

BTW...LUV is doing awesome compared to prev. games. I'm putting him in my town pool for now.

[PenguinPower]

How was dinner, nn? That was a long one...maybe a seven-course?

[PenguinPower]

(like the above quote - notice his lack of vote for me? He was hoping somebody else would do that for him).

Oh...and I do want to call this out.

I never wanted to vote for nn30 - or anyone else to - yet. That's why I've been pushing TB - and voting TB.

This is, yet again, another misrep. I'm really starting to think that I should lean nn!scum.

NOTE TO NN - THIS DOESN'T MEAN I SCUM READ YOU YET. I AM THINKING ABOUT IT.

Ah...maybe that will explain it to him. Hope so. Can't explain it simpler than that.

[nn30]

Awesome. You are a great asset to town. Thanks for joining.

Trying my best here.

I'm doing this to sort you as well...

If some of the players, who I am strongly town reading, concur with you I'm more than willing to drop my read of you.

Until then I'm not interested in your take on the topic - you're going to disagree with my case and do so with conviction regardless of your alignment.

[PenguinPower]

Yeah...but you have to realize that your case is weak being that is relies on one phrase of 11 words, when you call my case of much more than that on TB to be wrong...especially given tow null readings now.

Chill. Re-look at TB. Let's talk.

[PenguinPower]

tow should be two

[nn30]

@Penguin - please see my post 64 in which I scum read Dreamer for his use of !!!!! in his post.

My read on him consisted of tone, and 4 characters (he used ! four times in his post).

I don't need a thesis to scum read somebody. Sometimes all I need is 11 words.

[PenguinPower]

Which goes against everything you've said about my argument on TB. Why can't I use that? Why do I need a smoking gun?

[nn30]

Can you re-state the reasons you scum read him?

[PenguinPower]

Um...why? Pretty sure they exist in succinct format within the previous two pages.

[nn30]

All right fine.

Damn it.

I hate having to admit I'm wrong.

Bleh.

I ISO'd TB.

His 42 & 46 are really bad. So is his 213. They're low effort attempts to justify a scum read. I'm willing to move him to my scum pile just for those.

[nn30]

His 210 is also another low-effort post which could be construed as pretending to attempt to solve the game.

[nn30]

UNVOTE:

[nn30]

Hey Penguin where'd you go?

You were all kinds of talkative when you were defending yourself...

Where are you now?

[1 Shot Vanilla Town]

I didn't see a day start pm
Catch up later

[ThinkBig]

Had some issues come up IRL so sorry for not being that active. I'll try to catch up and post my analysis as soon as I can.

[PenguinPower]

Hey Penguin where'd you go?

You were all kinds of talkative when you were defending yourself...

Where are you now?

Sleeping!