STEVEN UNIVERSE 2 - GAME OVER

[Varsoon]

"It is too a viable career! 80 percent of Germans make their living Deejay'ing! Why can't you just accept that I don't want to be a fishermen like you?"

Sour Cream,

Drop Beat Dad

VOTECOUNT 7.02

Creature (4):

Shiro, Almost50, MagnaofIllusion, Shadow_Step

Shadow_Step (3):

Farside22, Creature, Thefuzzylogic99

Not Voting (4):

Reasonably Rational, grapes, mastin2, randomidget

With 11 Alive, it takes 6 to Lynch.
Deadline

: (expired on 2016-12-07 10:00:00)

The Current Stress is -2:

[Reasonably Rational]

Can some one that is not RR explain to me why they think rr bringing up that I can disband alliances as a thing to be concerned with makes sense at all?
Because every time he says it just reads as fear mongering for no reason to me.

You should really actually read my posts. I've asked you if disbanding your alliance today and one tomorrow with 2 people will give you the points you need for your claimed solo win. If you actually read them, you would see that while I believe only someone holding a universe sized idiot ball would believe your claim that you are town who can swap to being neutral, given that you have demonstrated lynchproof, alliance destroying, multi-voting, passive (and active?) roleblocking and bulletproof ... I am fairly sure you are probably just a neutral who can get a win independent of the outcome of the game at large. I'm advocating that we help you get your personal win and GTFO before you cost us the game.

Maybe you should be co-operative and just answer the damn question about how close you are and take your win rather than skimming the post and assuming that I'm advocating to lynch or vig you. You are irrelevant to the outcome

except

that you getting a solo win and exiting the game is basically a mislynch for scum in terms of what they need to get to end game

UNLESS

your entire claim is bullshit and all the abilities you have displayed are given to you to help you go for a last player alive win condition. It seems to be either/or at this point, and only the aforementioned people holding Universe sized idiot balls believe you are anything other than a neutral who will act in your own interests.

So ... how many more points so you can trigger your win?

~Drixx

[Reasonably Rational]

I mean ... would everyone PLEASE read my posts today.

[Reasonably Rational]

We need to firm up our alliances for sure.

[Reasonably Rational]

We need Farside to confirm that she can get her claimed solo win (that doesn't make the rest of us lose) by breaking today's alliance and the proposed one for tomorrow ... or if not tell us what else she needs, so that can be a worry off our plate.

[Reasonably Rational]

Random needs to read the posts I've left him because he can evaluate our logic and confirm some things I've said, and that would be cool.

[Reasonably Rational]

I'd really like to just say that I love you all, even though what I'm doing is probably really annoying.

Also: in case you missed it earlier ... Cerb's primary HDD failed and he's restricted to his phone until he gets it sorted. Otherwise he would be doing this and not me.

[Reasonably Rational]

Five more posts to go. Happy Thanksgiving (a little late) to the Americans. Hope you guys all had a wonderful one.

[Reasonably Rational]

Is it cold where you guys are? It's really cold here. Like really really really cold. I've been having hot cocoa every night because hot cocoa is freaking awesome!

[Reasonably Rational]

Wow this is way more tedious than I expected. Really sorry about this.

[Reasonably Rational]

I love you all, even the remaining scumbutts. It has been a fun and challenging game so far.

[Reasonably Rational]

With Love, Cookies, Warm Milk and Cocoa,
Drixx

P.S. - 11111 GET!!!!

[farside22]

We need Farside to confirm that she can get her claimed solo win (that doesn't make the rest of us lose) by breaking today's alliance and the proposed one for tomorrow ... or if not tell us what else she needs, so that can be a worry off our plate.

I'm 5 points away from the 3rd party win con.
I'm not disbanding from tfl just an FYI.
Thank you for your shitty comment.

[farside22]

God I just reread everything in full and that idea is terrible.
Like is this from the same person who gave shit for not voting and then bitching when voting doesn't go your way and the barely fucking interacting with me..........
I can't even being to understand your issues any more.

[Reasonably Rational]

yes we agree, farside could go with kraska/fb if they want

This is where I'm going.
Rr: if all I was going to do was get into an alliance and blow it up for points, i'd done it with sky and nc.

Farside, if you want there to be ANY chance you don't die tomorrow, we need you to claim details about this point thing.

How many you have.
How many you gain from lynch attempts.
How many you gain from being targeted.
How many you gain from dissolving alliances.
How many you need in order to achieve your win con.
How rhe extra voting thing works/what it costs you in points.

The reason why we can't trust you to not blow up an alliance is the fact that we don't know how far away from your win con you are now. Maybe the extra points weren't worth it then, but they're worth it now because you'll achieve your win con.

-Cerb

Ill respond but I'm betting money you'll call be a liar.
Currently 14 points
I get 2 points for lynch attempts
1 point gained for each player that targets me with an action.
I gain 1 point for every person in the alliance that I dissolved.
Need 20 points total.
Each extra vote cost me one KP. So example 3 votes means 3kp.
I do have a few things I gained points from that I haven't claimed.

Unknowingly my ability when targeted blocks everything including nk by scum.
I had 13 points and today I have 15 points.
I know my creature block was successful.

We need Farside to confirm that she can get her claimed solo win (that doesn't make the rest of us lose) by breaking today's alliance and the proposed one for tomorrow ... or if not tell us what else she needs, so that can be a worry off our plate.

I'm 5 points away from the 3rd party win con.
I'm not disbanding from tfl just an FYI.
Thank you for your shitty comment.

Okay so you are 5 points away.

If I understand your claim about the joy ride alliance and the amount of points you got from it, that means if you blow up your alliance today and tomorrow, you'll have 20 points (alliance size 2 = 2 points and alliance size 3 = 3 points) and you can get your win. Is this correct?

Here's what you need to understand. You don't matter to me anymore,

unless

you get your points and leave the game and that action hands scum the win. That's why I'm asking these questions and advocating that we simply give you your points and let you have your solo win.

Now ... why on earth would you be opposed to that? Are you going to get to 20 points and be unable to do what you claimed you could?

You need to be really honest right now, because tomorrow two of us can end you. I personally would really rather just set things up so you can take your personal win and go, mostly because of my personal stance on 3rd party roles. Others have already expressed the opinion that it would be better to kill you. I'm extending you not an olive branch but an entire fucking olive tree here.

If we assume you exit the game with a personal win, there is a series of events that

could

make tomorrow LYLO. I've outlined it to Random already and am waiting for him to confirm that the logic is sound. If you exit any later than tomorrow, it could literally end the game and hand it to scum. That cannot be allowed to happen. The problem is that wasting resources to lynch or vig you is the same net effect, only you don't win and we lose resources that we need.

Please put yourself in our shoes and stop your game-long shitfest with anyone who talks blunt with you. There's literally no reason I can think of for you to reject us giving you your win.

EITMLIFYO

~Drixx

[Almost50]

@Drixx:

No, I wasn't in Space Dandy

But, OK.. I'll follow you blindly on this one. There's obviously some complicated modding stuff that I'm missing, and we can discuss those post-game.

[Reasonably Rational]

@Drixx:

No, I wasn't in Space Dandy

But, OK.. I'll follow you blindly on this one. There's obviously some complicated modding stuff that I'm missing, and we can discuss those post-game.

If you consider the following, you should be able to figure it out. If not, I will tell you in our alliance tomorrow:

1.) Farside, if telling the truth about the 20 point win condition, can exit the game.
2.) Fuzzy, regardless of alignment, could kill a townie with the claimed vig shot.
3.) Scum NK succeeds.
4.) Creature could be town (highly unlikely and requires Farside to be lying to the extreme since she handed us a guilty on him to start the day ... but given that Farside is obviously lying, it's in the possibility space and has to be accounted for).

If those things all happened, consider the situation tomorrow.

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@Fuzzy:

Please give Farside explicit permission to end your alliance. I know this means you won't shoot tonight, but that's a good thing. It will allow Farside to have 20 points early tomorrow and she can be put to the test on her claim. It's worth it to ensure that we don't snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

~Drixx

[farside22]

I get one point disbanding per player.
So one point for fuzzy.
If one disband with mastin_shadow and mastin is part of the alliance the odds get 2 points.
I'm short by 2 points.
Now if I successfully block an action I get 1 point.
So in short I'm short 1 point unless someone targets me then it work.

[farside22]

With all that said I don't get why you want that after telling everyone you don't think me being with tfl was good.

[Creature]

RR, didn't you realise farside claimed her ability can't block factional kills and she earned two points (meaning she was probably targeted)?

[Shiro]

I thought you counted as part of the alliance far.

[MagnaofIllusion]

So on Alliances – unless he objects I want grapes with Shadow and Shiro for reasons grapes should understand.

That makes

Almost / Fuzzy / RR
Grapes / Shadow / Shiro

Leaving mastin, myself, random and farside out. I’d lean to a farside / myself / Random Alliance leaving mastin without an ally.

mastin and grapes

– these work for you?

I also don’t see the point of actively trying to get farside a third party win at this point if she is actively not looking for it. Frankly that’s making me look at RR again with skepticism.

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Also ... how did I end up sorting alliances? There's a reason I avoided this all game. This is a pain in the arse.

No complaining when you basically just thrust yourself into the role ..

[MagnaofIllusion]

MoI

You and random won't die, ever.

Scum will waste a turn if they kill you since they can endgame both of you.

Given scum took a crack at me two Nights ago I find this logic a little lacking ...

[Creature]

If TFL is lynched tomorrow, then town definitely deserves to lose.

[farside22]

I thought you counted as part of the alliance far.

No.

I'm good with random and moi alliance.

I think tfl should shot shadow if he's not lynched today.
His effort to sort anyone is so awful I can't see any reason anyone doesn't think he is scum.