Mini 1855: Questionable Content Mafia - Game Over!

[kraska77]

Hold up

I'm beginning to forget that u could be scum urself!! We can't be compadres just yet srry I don't fully trust u yet

[Nachomamma8]

in this case spyrex's dreams aren't good for the health of the game and so he doesn't get them often

[Nachomamma8]

Hold up

I'm beginning to forget that u could be scum urself!! We can't be compadres just yet srry I don't fully trust u yet

it's okay friend, i'm used to being misunderstood
i'm fairly confident the last words uttered before this game ends will be "if they aren't scum then make sure to look at Nacho again, he could just be fooling us"

[Nachomamma8]

Where as your feelings on me are total OMGUS?

Not at all.

I already stated that you were below null before your vote on me.

Hmmm. It seems like your early game were a lot of interactions that seemed like they went kind of funky because of bad communication; I'll do a bit better in being clear when responding to you because I can't imagine that my current approach is helping.

For one, when I don't contribute more, I can't. Sometimes other things come first, other times I'm just fucking tired, other times I end up procrastinating too much; these are things I shouldn't fuck up on, but I do and it's not particularly tied with alignment (I enjoy both sides of the game enough and am comfortable enough posting on either side where I don't dread making a post because of my alignment). My approach with Aristo is based on experience; I've been scumpartners with him once, everyone knew that he lurked as scum, everyone picked up on him lurking as scum, scumpartners told him to post more, he essentially couldn't. When I've played with him as town (a couple times, a few times), he's seemed town/I've locked down a townread on him fairly early. I think that he has a significant weakness in his scumgame and I think this weakness is magnified by pressure. I think his initial approach "I just got here!" without doing something is fairly damning in and of itself but it's not like he hasn't gotten a chance to do something; I'd give more benefit of the doubt if I wasn't familiar with his game, but I am and I don't see any reason offering it.

As for my approach to you, it's probably accurate to say that I'm buddying in that I'm tailoring my play to communicate better with you and you specifically; assigning that to scum motivation because "buddying" is a common tell will not give you much accuracy in general since it's an integral part of my style. I'd expect you to be familiar with this approach based on our first game together based on my shameless buddying of several key players, hence my initial response to you being as dismissive as it was; if it came off as rude, it wasn't my intention (although I imagine my style this game will probably end up being a bit grating), and if there's something you want me to slow down and talk about seriously, just let me know.

[DiamondSentinel]

Spoiler: VC 1.5 Comic

Vote Count 1.5
JaeReed [2]	Lady LambdaDelta,MagnaofIllusion
Pisskop [1]	SpyreX
Aristophanes [4]	Pisskop, Kraska77, Nachomamma8, Camn
MagnaofIllusion [1]	JaeReed
Nachomamma8 [1]	Socrates
Not Voting [3]	Aristophanes, Lil Uzi Vert, Dunnstral

With 12 alive, it takes 7 vote to lynch someone!


Day 1 will end in (expired on 2016-12-06 12:00:00)

Lady Lambdadelta is being prodded. This is their 1st prod.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Please do not prod me, Moderator.

MOD: You hit 2 days of inactivity right as a read it. Sorry, but it's the rules. I am not allowed to show any exceptions, because that could be taken as favoritism.

[Nachomamma8]

But why are you willing to wagon them? There is like no reason to at the moment.

sometimes scumminess is the absence of towniness, sort of like how evil is occasionally the absence of good
you know?
i'm sort of squicked by you questioning it in the first place since "I'm willing to wagon a non-poster" doesn't really seem like the most revolutionary of stances but maybe we were cut from a different cloth

[Nachomamma8]

I don't think there's an expression for the bewilderment on my face.

It's been eons since I've coached anyone aside from don't lurk and don't post like pants on head cause the most important thing is being genuine

You should add meta to your list i hate that one the most

It wouldn't have to be much. Just a sentence like "Socrates is easy to please, just talk the right way." and then Jae oversells it way too hard.

i like you sticking your neck out early but i think this is something that comes from crazytown

[Nachomamma8]

@Jae:

I just find it telling. It read like she does not care to hear the opinions of those who haven't chimed in yet.

because she said wagon...?
this seems like reaching in the worst way possible.

[MagnaofIllusion]

VOTE: Arist

L-1 people.

My approach with Aristo is based on experience; I've been scumpartners with him once, everyone knew that he lurked as scum, everyone picked up on him lurking as scum, scumpartners told him to post more, he essentially couldn't

This.

Princess Bride Mafia was this too a tee. He was in a hydra with Something Smart and my partner and lurked even thought he acknowledged it would get him scum read.

Look at posts 75 in the Mafia PT as an example of my frustration with Arist (and SS also). And at one point SS even tossed around the idea of faking a Arist post to get people to stop reading his lurking as scum behavior.

[Nachomamma8]

It's fun and then /wrists then fun

I'm a dominatrix.
Does that help things at all?

Nacho, will you dominate me?

My job is your pleasure.

[Nachomamma8]

Did it say what language can you make up hatespeek and be grammatically correct in it

Are you saying I should do it in French?

Just post. Let it out, let the worry go. If you end up getting modkilled because you don't meet DS's vision of your role, then no one will blame you; lord knows I probably would have been modkilled three times over if our roles were reversed.

[Nachomamma8]

Did it say what language can you make up hatespeek and be grammatically correct in it

Are you saying I should do it in French?

Just post. Let it out, let the worry go. If you end up getting modkilled because you don't meet DS's vision of your role, then no one will blame you; lord knows I probably would have been modkilled three times over if our roles were reversed.

[Nachomamma8]

I'm the oddly stiff one? Rubbish.

You're correct that there's no logical explanation for Jae to reach the conclusion they did but gut wants what it wants and when said gut is referring to a confirmation post then it doesn't really matter in the end.

[Nachomamma8]

Half and half. I'm not passionate but i dont have something revving my desires yet

How much longer should we give Nacho before we kill him?

Is there a reason why you're torches and pitchforks when it comes to me and warm cuddles and dancing in the rain when it comes to Aristo? If you're his scumpartner, then it's probably time to just let him go. You can try to tie me to him while I'm busy lynching your other partner.

[Nachomamma8]

Eh, I'm not feeling pisskop. I actually liked his reaction to being scumread. The whole "you need to learn the differences" thing.

was okay.
not great.

[MagnaofIllusion]

Half and half. I'm not passionate but i dont have something revving my desires yet

How much longer should we give Nacho before we kill him?

Is there a reason why you're torches and pitchforks when it comes to me and warm cuddles and dancing in the rain when it comes to Aristo? If you're his scumpartner, then it's probably time to just let him go. You can try to tie me to him while I'm busy lynching your other partner.

This is actually the best evidence yet I've seen for Socrates scum. There is absolutely no reason for him to be "Nacho's taking too long, hang'em high" and then later the same game day to be "Don't hang Aristo for lurking ... let him be replaced".

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Did it say what language can you make up hatespeek and be grammatically correct in it

Are you saying I should do it in French?

Just post. Let it out, let the worry go. If you end up getting modkilled because you don't meet DS's vision of your role, then no one will blame you; lord knows I probably would have been modkilled three times over if our roles were reversed.

There are many punishments for not obeying the rules.

My need to obey mine is rather

obsessive

. You might say that I have a

compulsion

.

[Nachomamma8]

I feel good about everyone complement {camn, you, nacho, vert} so doesnt matter to me which one of the 4 i vote
pisskop close to being there too but I liked the catchup

you came close to getting whooped by a sadface?
lame

[Nachomamma8]

Did it say what language can you make up hatespeek and be grammatically correct in it

Are you saying I should do it in French?

Just post. Let it out, let the worry go. If you end up getting modkilled because you don't meet DS's vision of your role, then no one will blame you; lord knows I probably would have been modkilled three times over if our roles were reversed.

There are many punishments for not obeying the rules.

My need to obey mine is rather

obsessive

. You might say that I have a

compulsion

.

Point taken.
We need to put in work to find a work around, though; I don't think cycles of misery and frustration are what you're supposed to experience in this particular game.

MOD: Can you guys stop trying to "out-smart" me? I'm being serious here.

[Nachomamma8]

I mean of course there's the "trying to make it as short and painless as possible" thing, but I can't say I've ever been a fan.

[Nachomamma8]

I think it's really scummy that you were saying we have the same reads as a reason for ME not to be voting YOU earlier but now you ignore that and are also acting like I'm voting you for the first time out of nowhere

i don't understand why you think this is scummy
and also point out that if "we have the same reads!" is a post that makes you back off something then your original push wasn't overly solid

[Nachomamma8]

Also- May I just point out- I immediately got votes from people who I said were scummy. Immediately.
No analysis. No discussion. No questions.
I didn't even put any reasoning for those reads.
It is SO hard to take that kind of play seriously. Apparently the scummiest thing is to say someone is scummy. Its the theme of this game. I don't even need to vote them.. just MENTION that I think they are scummy.

except one look at both our isos will reveal the gospel truth
we've been sccumreading you throughout while youve undulated from townreading to scumreading us
your scumreads continue to look sketchy

hey kraska friend come talk to me about your "us" wrt dunnstral; dunny didn't do shit and you're already ride or die on him?

[Nachomamma8]

Also- May I just point out- I immediately got votes from people who I said were scummy. Immediately.
No analysis. No discussion. No questions.
I didn't even put any reasoning for those reads.
It is SO hard to take that kind of play seriously. Apparently the scummiest thing is to say someone is scummy. Its the theme of this game. I don't even need to vote them.. just MENTION that I think they are scummy.

except one look at both our isos will reveal the gospel truth
we've been sccumreading you throughout while youve undulated from townreading to scumreading us
your scumreads continue to look sketchy

hey kraska friend come talk to me about your "us" wrt dunnstral; dunny didn't do shit and you're already ride or die on him?

[Nachomamma8]

Socrates seems more like he's rusty, but not quite town.

Hes a relic, no? I see some surface scanning,but I dont have any faith in a lasting townread on him, I just dont find him scummy.

you phrased this at poking at the chinks
how exactly are you poking at chinks here?