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Post Post #14 (isolation #0) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 8:31 am

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VOTE: Jackel98

Hi. Shall I club you over the head?
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Post Post #15 (isolation #1) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 8:32 am

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In post 13, kraska77 wrote:
In post 9, Creature wrote:Oh damn, no cop.
????
Pedit: there's another club cop
Clubs has a cop disabler.
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Post Post #16 (isolation #2) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 8:32 am

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We should massclaim only the number of cards we got if we massclaim yet. It gives scum no info but makes lies harder.
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Post Post #26 (isolation #3) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 8:37 am

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In post 18, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:I really don't see any merit in massclaiming. Maybe at least claiming active negative utilities?
Agreed here. If you fuck with someone, claim it.
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Post Post #27 (isolation #4) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 8:39 am

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In post 19, Creature wrote:Damn, bet scum must be getting away with their strongman/cop disabler card.
This feels like wierd gloating. Like awkward.

Why so focused on that? Do you know they have one?
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Post Post #32 (isolation #5) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 8:42 am

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My pick was ebil. :D
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Post Post #40 (isolation #6) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 8:52 am

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I dunno. Maybe they took the bulletproof governor or one of the other roles.

VOTE: Creature
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Post Post #45 (isolation #7) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 8:56 am

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My vote is serious on Creature btw.
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Post Post #51 (isolation #8) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 9:00 am

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In post 46, Vifam wrote:I didn't even participate in the bid I'm honestly confused
People bid on roles.
The order of selections is determined by the numbers.

Rb got to pick 3, so and and so forth down the line.

So if you did not get a card you wanted, you know someone above you has it.
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Post Post #52 (isolation #9) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 9:01 am

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In post 47, Creature wrote:
In post 2, Quipla wrote:4x Hated [P] It takes one less vote than usual to lynch you.
Are you claiming hated?
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Post Post #55 (isolation #10) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 9:02 am

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Hated are only in Spades.

You scared to die bro?
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Post Post #63 (isolation #11) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 9:04 am

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In post 56, Vifam wrote:We're two pages in
I have caught scum by post 50 before. You like Creature or something?
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Post Post #73 (isolation #12) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 9:07 am

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Boo! Your dual personality friend likes you, Maria but I can scare people. Not going to change that.

Now, I am going to eat pie and drink alone.
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Post Post #85 (isolation #13) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 9:12 am

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In post 78, MariaR wrote:
In post 74, drealmerz7 wrote:
In post 54, MariaR wrote:This game isn't what I expected it to be...
what'd you expect?
*picks cards*

*scumhunts*

*sometime uses card*

*win game*

LET'S CLAIM HATED AND BAD EFFECTS D1 MASS CLAIM...

._.
Yup. Down with that.

Massclaim should progress with successful # of cards. Then, we only claim FAILED cards top down.
This means we'll know what cards MUST be in play if certain slots are town but NOT who has them.
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Post Post #91 (isolation #14) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 9:13 am

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In post 84, SpyreX wrote:Creature is so wobbles town

I'm not giving details because its not necessary at this point but i will have to die before endgame

Wobbles?

No one has to die. Sorry.
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Post Post #95 (isolation #15) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 9:15 am

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Drealmerz, be in thread mason with me? We'll call our masonry the moon landing.
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Post Post #97 (isolation #16) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 9:15 am

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In post 94, SpyreX wrote:VOTE: dreal

Pedit uhh, yes, I'm very clearly saying i have to die. When the time comes it'll be apparent
Don't say anymore. I understand.
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Post Post #100 (isolation #17) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 9:18 am

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Y'all are misspelling Creature.
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Post Post #111 (isolation #18) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 9:22 am

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Spyrex, stop speaking in movie references.

Creature's clearly talking from a place of knowledge regarding the scum picks (cop disabler and strongman talk), while forgetting others (hated), encouraging only setup spec and trying to create paranoia that wagons are too big at L minus 8 to break out of RVS.

So, how are you townreading Creature?
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Post Post #114 (isolation #19) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 9:24 am

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In post 109, drealmerz7 wrote:
In post 95, Titus wrote:Drealmerz, be in thread mason with me? We'll call our masonry the moon landing.
ooof, I don't even know how to approach this comment almost! - buddying, talking of impossibilities (masonry between us impossible, unless we both copped each other) that can come off as "joking" because they're impossible, yet, still presenting the "heyyy, let's be town together!" mentality - post comes off scummy, I must say (I make so many friends calling everyone scummy!)
Hi. Like I care what it comes off. In thread masons are cool. It just means I townread you really hard. Actual masons is impossible. (Although I would have claimed that if it was.)
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Post Post #115 (isolation #20) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 9:24 am

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In post 112, kraska77 wrote:No i wanna know why kison voted maria
Pedit: titus no this is town creature we already went over this b4
Assume Creature dumped LSD in my ears.
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Post Post #120 (isolation #21) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 9:27 am

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In post 116, SpyreX wrote:No creature looked at the list of abilities and is crafting worst case scenarios in his brain
I'd buy that if he was doing analysis. He isn't. There's analysis and then there's fear mongering.
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Post Post #123 (isolation #22) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 9:28 am

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In post 121, drealmerz7 wrote:
In post 114, Titus wrote:
In post 109, drealmerz7 wrote:
In post 95, Titus wrote:Drealmerz, be in thread mason with me? We'll call our masonry the moon landing.
ooof, I don't even know how to approach this comment almost! - buddying, talking of impossibilities (masonry between us impossible, unless we both copped each other) that can come off as "joking" because they're impossible, yet, still presenting the "heyyy, let's be town together!" mentality - post comes off scummy, I must say (I make so many friends calling everyone scummy!)
Hi. Like I care what it comes off. In thread masons are cool. It just means I townread you really hard. Actual masons is impossible. (Although I would have claimed that if it was.)
never heard the term so it seemed weird - I get put-off when I feel like someone is trying to give me a TR unwarranted
I recognize fellow moonwalkers. I also recognize cw to scum.
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Post Post #124 (isolation #23) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 9:29 am

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In post 122, SpyreX wrote:I'm not saying hes good at it, just that its that brand of paranoia
Well, I beg to differ, especially with how much people are scrambling to counter Creature.
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Post Post #130 (isolation #24) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 9:34 am

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In post 127, SpyreX wrote:You mean kraska and i saying hes town? That's the scrambling?
Nope, although I don't 100% trust Kraska. He might be town. I meant how someone jumps and their target get votes, but Creature doesn't.
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Post Post #131 (isolation #25) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 9:35 am

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In post 128, kraska77 wrote:Tentative town:
Vifam
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Titus- it's so like town Titus to sus creature's idiosyncrasies the way she did
Maybe maria

Add Drealmerz and this might work.
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Post Post #132 (isolation #26) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 9:35 am

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Drealmerz in place of Creature.
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Post Post #137 (isolation #27) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 9:38 am

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Read Drealmerz as if he's me with less experience.

If Creature's trying to brute force the game, why is he opposed to a selective massclaim?
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Post Post #149 (isolation #28) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 9:43 am

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In post 144, Maxous wrote:ehhh i feel like Magna's post was little scummy

VOTE: MagnaofIllusion

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In post 40, Titus wrote:I dunno. Maybe they took the bulletproof governor or one of the other roles.

VOTE: Creature
In post 45, Titus wrote:My vote is serious on Creature btw.
I'm not feeling you either Titus, this strikes me as over-justification.

The Creature push isn't fantastic either


( /confirm )
Hey, I hear chainsaws.
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Post Post #159 (isolation #29) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 9:50 am

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In post 154, Maxous wrote:
In post 149, Titus wrote:Hey, I hear chainsaws.
you actually might be scum :igmeou:
Then vote me.

Or are you just going to shade me and random vote Another player who votes Creature?
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Post Post #161 (isolation #30) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 9:51 am

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In post 158, Creature wrote:Oh no, Titus will use "wagon resistance is AI for wagonee" argument.
Hey, you got a shade factory? It's what I do and you know that Arnold.
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Post Post #169 (isolation #31) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 9:59 am

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In post 165, Maxous wrote:
In post 160, drealmerz7 wrote:
In post 134, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:
In post 125, drealmerz7 wrote:I don't think creature and I have never played a completed game together before
He's basically always like this... and I actually think he's towntelling pretty hard.

As town he speaks whatever is on his mind and tries to brute force the setup or game. That's what his massclaim idea and paranoia about hated feels like - Spyrex basically articulated it, he's just looking at the list of cards and trying to figure out what scum may have picked.

Titus, I'm not really seeing drealmerz town, can you explain it a bit?
thanks for that, the perspective definitely helps

you can understand my aversion to his approach though, yes? I generally don't like to vote very early in a game, people giving such confidence in their reads so fast and feeling comfortable enough to make a vote takes more time for me, usually - here I got immediate scumpings and at the least, voted to express how seriously I take the issue of ability/role spec
i like this guy.

why are we wagoning him?
He's awkward town and you're whiteknighting now. Back off.
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Post Post #178 (isolation #32) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 10:16 am

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Why don't you buy that he didn't bid? He is last, which is consistent with a no bid?
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Post Post #182 (isolation #33) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 10:19 am

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In post 173, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 95, Titus wrote:Drealmerz, be in thread mason with me? We'll call our masonry the moon landing.
counterclaim
Dude, not a CC. He's the third.
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Post Post #184 (isolation #34) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 10:24 am

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In post 180, Dunnstral wrote:If I were mafia here I'd have the scum team picking the same draft numbers because there's so many good choices it honestly doesn't matter
I strongly disagree with that.
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Post Post #185 (isolation #35) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 10:24 am

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In post 183, Vifam wrote:
In post 177, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:VOTE: Vifam

This seems okay. I don't buy that he didn't bid, set-up talk is fine considering this isn't a normal game, and his theory about those voting for Maria doesn't make sense.
I really didn't I just told em to randomize
Did the mod tell you what your random role was?
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Post Post #188 (isolation #36) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 10:29 am

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In post 186, Vifam wrote:What do you mean
Unless I misread, you said to the mod to submit 3 cards at random? Did the mods tell you the cards they randomed for you?
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Post Post #190 (isolation #37) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 10:29 am

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In post 187, Dunnstral wrote:Did you receive any cards?

If not you've made a mistake


UNVOTE:
You're jumping to the end.
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Post Post #193 (isolation #38) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 10:31 am

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In post 191, SpyreX wrote:This is why i like a contained draft set force some thought into the doubles more
I'm building the box my depressed friend.
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Post Post #197 (isolation #39) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 10:33 am

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In post 192, Vifam wrote:No I got cards and a role I just didn't know what he meant by Random role, the mod just chose everything for me
Did you get 3 cards? If you got fewer than 3, you should ask the mod what the other ones were. You'd know those cards are in the game held by others.

I only got two of mine. So I am aware of one role that must be in the hands of those above me.
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Post Post #200 (isolation #40) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 10:36 am

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In post 189, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 184, Titus wrote:
In post 180, Dunnstral wrote:If I were mafia here I'd have the scum team picking the same draft numbers because there's so many good choices it honestly doesn't matter
I strongly disagree with that.
What if only a part of the scumteam chose the same number, while one went for a high number
Agree with that.

Magna + Trans is unlikely for instance. Either could be scum separately.
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Post Post #205 (isolation #41) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 10:38 am

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In post 201, Maxous wrote:if somebody didn't get a card that has a pro-scum ability like ninja etc. claim it.

otherwise don't bother
Abilities usefulness depends on the holder.

What, you mad fish bro?
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Post Post #208 (isolation #42) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 10:38 am

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In post 203, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 197, Titus wrote:I only got two of mine.
Very interesting since you're #7 in draft, was it a "scummy card"?
Null powerful, but I am feeling shit out.
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Post Post #211 (isolation #43) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 10:40 am

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In post 202, Vifam wrote:
In post 197, Titus wrote:
In post 192, Vifam wrote:No I got cards and a role I just didn't know what he meant by Random role, the mod just chose everything for me
Did you get 3 cards? If you got fewer than 3, you should ask the mod what the other ones were. You'd know those cards are in the game held by others.

I only got two of mine. So I am aware of one role that must be in the hands of those above me.
Yeah it says that I bid on another card and failed, I only got two
Ask the mod what your third bid was. Then tell us. Since you're the last in the bidding process, all you'll be stating is that the card you failed to get is in the game.
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Post Post #223 (isolation #44) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 10:48 am

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@giga, That's why I said everyone should claim how many missing cards they have, but not yet claim what they are. A structured massclaim is best but New Amsterdam and I have yet to work out details.

Eventually, we will get more info and fake claims become impossible.
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Post Post #225 (isolation #45) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 10:48 am

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In post 220, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 216, Vifam wrote:
In post 211, Titus wrote:
In post 202, Vifam wrote:
In post 197, Titus wrote:
In post 192, Vifam wrote:No I got cards and a role I just didn't know what he meant by Random role, the mod just chose everything for me
Did you get 3 cards? If you got fewer than 3, you should ask the mod what the other ones were. You'd know those cards are in the game held by others.

I only got two of mine. So I am aware of one role that must be in the hands of those above me.
Yeah it says that I bid on another card and failed, I only got two
Ask the mod what your third bid was. Then tell us. Since you're the last in the bidding process, all you'll be stating is that the card you failed to get is in the game.
I bid on the 8th of Spades and failed
8 of spades is a worse 4 of spades?

Did you not want to be in a neighborhood?
He submitted randomly.
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Post Post #234 (isolation #46) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 10:53 am

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In post 228, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:
In post 223, Titus wrote:@giga, That's why I said everyone should claim how many missing cards they have, but not yet claim what they are. A structured massclaim is best but New Amsterdam and I have yet to work out details.

Eventually, we will get more info and fake claims become impossible.
got it

i'm actually liking the missing cards massclaim now that i took some more time out to look into the set-up (i only skimmed the rules since i was asked to replace in at an inconvenient time irl) so we should probably hammer that out soon
Everyone should claim missing cards numbers but not necessarily what is missing. Even then, leave a clue or two as to what is. That way, if you die, the info doesn't go with you.
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Post Post #237 (isolation #47) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 10:54 am

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In post 231, SpyreX wrote:Missing cards sure
You missing cards?
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Post Post #241 (isolation #48) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 10:55 am

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In post 235, drealmerz7 wrote:UNVOTE: Creature
VOTE: Dunnstral
you talk too much
Looks at the activity count.

Wtf you doin bro?
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Post Post #244 (isolation #49) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 10:57 am

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Drealmerz, you missing cards man? Kraska, you too.
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Post Post #246 (isolation #50) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 10:59 am

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Lil, you missing any cards?
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Post Post #263 (isolation #51) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 11:11 am

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In post 253, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 252, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
@Titus:
Nope, got everything I wanted. I'm really not comfortable with giving out and
talking about information that
scum
don't need to know though.


@Giga:
I just don't buy why he didn't try. I guess it's more anti-alignment if anything but it still pings me.
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Post Post #272 (isolation #52) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 11:18 am

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In post 267, drealmerz7 wrote:
In post 261, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:
In post 252, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:@Giga: I just don't buy why he didn't try. I guess it's more anti-alignment if anything but it still pings me.
Scum are at a disadvantage when it comes to role-madness (at least I think), so I'd agree that it's just anti-alignment but far more likely town imo.
We're at 1:4 standard but with the +3 makes it a town-lean game (by numbers which are normally then balanced by roles of course - but this is madness so the balance didn't happen in conjunction with the # decision by the mod)

I can't help but keeping thinking that scum are at a decent disadvantage in this game and am trying to reconcile the balance of it - help appreciated. The best I can come up with is it will be harder to find them because they are fewer, but, that's not really reassuring to me. "great, we get to make more demoralizing mis-lynches!"
The balance of the game depends more on getting the right info out at the right time and optimal direction of night actions. That's why listening is really good and word choice is important. Beyond claiming if there are missing cards, we shouldn't claim anything until it can be done safely.

Claiming missing cards determines who knows what and limits on roles.

If town are higher up, this serves as a natural buffer in some respects.

Mod: How many cards are in the deck remaining?
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Post Post #279 (isolation #53) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 11:22 am

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In post 273, drealmerz7 wrote:
In post 270, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:if people with allergies claim
can you hold my hand and tell me WTF anyone would claim to have an allergy?
Site meta is that millers, hated, and ascetics claim.

Pgo, lovers, and other swingy roles do not.

Basically, if you fuck with an investigation, claim.
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Post Post #287 (isolation #54) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 11:27 am

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23*3 = 69 max viable

104 (total cards) - 43 =61 cards taken

69 mins 61 means 8 failed to match.

Vifam and I each missed one.

So six other missing outstanding.
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Post Post #291 (isolation #55) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 11:29 am

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In post 288, kraska77 wrote:
In post 285, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:
In post 283, kraska77 wrote:I'm not gonna go gung ho on uzi when he seems to be a space cadet as either allignment...atleast not until I'm really positive her being scummy weird
fair enough then
kraska77 wrote:What does "deckx42" mean? Idgi.......
deck has 42 cards in it at the moment
So.... does this mean all the trump card pool is cards that ppl have in the game rn?
Any card that flips means that two players did not pick that card.
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Post Post #295 (isolation #56) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 11:38 am

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In post 293, kraska77 wrote:
In post 287, Titus wrote:23*3 = 69 max viable

104 (total cards) - 43 =61 cards taken

69 mins 61 means 8 failed to match.

Vifam and I each missed one.

So six other missing outstanding.
wat is this I feel stupid
It's math that determines how many players failed to get cards. Pregame, the deck had 104 cards. The mod then removes all the cards bid on to make the bidding process. There were 43 cards (including the queen of clubs) at the start of the game. That means we can determine how many cards were passed out. We subtract the current deck size from 104 to get how many cards were dealt. That's because Full deck = cards remaining plus cards dealt. We get 61 cards were dealt.

We know there are 23 players in the game, so that means the maximum possible dealt cards (no one triple bid) is 69. Given only 61 cards were dealt, we know 8 cards failed to deal.

Remove myself and vifam, that's 6 other duplicated bids.
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Post Post #302 (isolation #57) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 11:42 am

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In post 297, Dunnstral wrote:Oh there's FOUR of each card type?
Two of each card.
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Post Post #313 (isolation #58) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 11:55 am

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In post 311, gerryoat wrote:I honestly hardly know how to play this setup, i just joined cause i was asked and i liked the people in this game. So s-sorry if I make noob mistakes.. i-i'm town i-i swear...
We all are figuring out the groundwork. Did you get all 3 cards you bid on (do not claim them)?

P-edit: They can use all cards that match Q or Clubs. Some cards are mandatory.
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Post Post #322 (isolation #59) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 12:19 pm

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@Flythefish - We are claiming them because they box in scum while giving little help to scum. For instance, if Vifam is town, we'll have two hated spades players in the game. It also explains if some players have hidden knowledge. It becomes much more difficult to fake a claim as well as scum, forcing them to either a)make up cards they have or b) be stuck explaining bad things.

@Gerry, how many did you get?
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Post Post #331 (isolation #60) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 12:28 pm

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In post 326, Fishythefish wrote:I think I agree that constraining scum's fakeclaims later is a good idea, though. So: I got three cards.

I'm also idly wondering if we should claim something else to make fakeclaims harder - say the remainder of the sum of our card ranks divided by 13. Probably more trouble than it's worth.
I am looking into that, but I am not so sure yet. It depends on what we draw from this round. Setup cracking is kinda my thing. I am working on each set of data prepping for the next.

Lil, I suppose you have a full set?
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Post Post #334 (isolation #61) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 12:30 pm

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In post 330, gerryoat wrote:what happens if you have a godfather card and a miller card. asking for a friend
First, check if they are capable to be activated at the same time. Unless otherwise specified, millers and Godfathers only activate when their rank/suit is flipped.
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Post Post #337 (isolation #62) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 12:31 pm

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In post 332, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Okay now that I understand why we're claiming, couldn't scum just make up bullshit reasons for picking cards that could be considered anti-town?
They could, but we're not fullclaiming today. We are solely claiming if we got out 3 picks or not for now.
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Post Post #340 (isolation #63) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 12:31 pm

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In post 336, gerryoat wrote:Okay guys, I lied. I got ALL 3 cards. and they are STRONG cards. Mafia you should be SCARED of me. I would advise you to KILL me.
Please don't wifom if you got all cards. Ty.
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Post Post #341 (isolation #64) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 12:33 pm

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Mod: What happens if a deck card is a diamond and a player has both a miller and a Godfather?
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Post Post #348 (isolation #65) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 12:43 pm

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Unless we massclaim, we deal with it later. There is no universal standard beyond hated/millers/ninjas and the like claim when they are in play.
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Post Post #349 (isolation #66) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 12:44 pm

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In post 347, Vifam wrote:
In post 342, gerryoat wrote:imagine getting no cards. If I got no cards I'd feel like a loser lol.
I was honestly hoping for that

If vifam got no cards, we'd know three roles definitely in play.
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Post Post #351 (isolation #67) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 12:51 pm

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Power of logical deduction ;) Or are you seriously rolehunting me right now?
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Post Post #352 (isolation #68) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 12:59 pm

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Ok, left to claim any missing cards are RB, jackal98, MariaR, Vedith, Kraska, Magna, davesaz, kison, drone and vecna.

Myself, Drealmerz and Vifam each have a missing card. Should be 8.

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Post Post #354 (isolation #69) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 1:35 pm

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Not yet Drone but if it's safe to do so probably.

We want to fill in all missings and then claim what we feel comfortable with from the bottom up.
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Post Post #360 (isolation #70) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 1:39 pm

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Vedith and MariaR need to claim how many cards you got.
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Post Post #372 (isolation #71) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 1:53 pm

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Vedith, how many cards you got?
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Post Post #398 (isolation #72) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 4:36 pm

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In post 352, Titus wrote:Ok, left to claim any missing cards are RB, jackal98, MariaR, Vedith, Kraska, Magna, davesaz, kison, drone and vecna.

Myself, Drealmerz and Vifam each have a missing card. Should be 8.

Gotta run.
Actually, it should be 7. The mod communication changes the numbers. Drone has claimed missing a card.

Vedith Kraska Magna davesaz Kison Vecna and McMenno have 3 missing between them. Rb (by being first) is assumed to get all 3 of his
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Post Post #401 (isolation #73) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 4:41 pm

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Ok totally missed that. Ty.
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Post Post #410 (isolation #74) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 6:34 pm

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In post 408, rb wrote:i wish i knew what motivated people to claim shit on day1 in games like this but let me know when you're all going to shut the fuck up about cards and start lynching scum
You find scum, we lynch scum. You get it wrong, we won't agree.

Yet, if you fail to understand mechanical PoE, it's going to be a long game.
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Post Post #544 (isolation #75) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 4:57 am

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In post 398, Titus wrote:
In post 352, Titus wrote:Ok, left to claim any missing cards are RB, jackal98, MariaR, Vedith, Kraska, Magna, davesaz, kison, drone and vecna.

Myself, Drealmerz and Vifam each have a missing card. Should be 8.

Gotta run.
Actually, it should be 7. The mod communication changes the numbers. Drone has claimed missing a card.

Vedith Kraska Magna davesaz Kison Vecna and McMenno have 3 missing between them. Rb (by being first) is assumed to get all 3 of his
So myself, drone, drealmerz, vifam missing.
Magna, kison, vecna and mcmenno are missing 3 cards between them.
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Post Post #546 (isolation #76) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 4:59 am

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Scratch kison from that. He has all his cards.

So magna vecna and mcmenno for card losses 2016.
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Post Post #552 (isolation #77) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 5:53 am

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Creature, your wanting lurker lynches doesn't sit well with me.
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Post Post #553 (isolation #78) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 5:53 am

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To be fair Magna is vla and not even a lurker.
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Post Post #557 (isolation #79) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 6:00 am

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You're just afraid of pissing anyone off aren't you Creature?

There's 5 or 6 wagons and you're playing vote based off activity overview.
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Post Post #564 (isolation #80) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 6:22 am

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Actually, that's not horrible. We were going to reveal at least partially anyway. It will establish some things. I was planning on McMenno revealing first though.
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Post Post #565 (isolation #81) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 6:23 am

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Because McMenno has a fake missing card now. :(
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Post Post #568 (isolation #82) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 6:27 am

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I like both major wagons ftr. We should try to consolidate.
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Post Post #574 (isolation #83) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 6:34 am

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In post 571, rb wrote:
In post 568, Titus wrote:I like both major wagons ftr. We should try to consolidate.
Why do you wanna consolidate early?
Good wagons are good wagons. Larger wagons generate more pressure.

There's no rule to use the entire time.
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Post Post #592 (isolation #84) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 7:09 am

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In post 575, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:
In post 568, Titus wrote:I like both major wagons ftr. We should try to consolidate.
Do you mean you like the wagonees for scum or their composition for town?

also i moved my vote from kison to vedith so there's only one major wagon now but that's semantics

@RB, can you go into your Transcend read because he's kind of a priority sort for me and I'm honestly stumped on him??
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Post Post #596 (isolation #85) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 7:11 am

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In post 585, davesaz wrote:I have two ways of setup specing people into scum roles for this setup. At this point I don't think I'll reveal the who or why on that method of PoEing scum other than to say it works for me in the PyP X/Y open setup which works very similar to this one. It's by no means infallible but it does identify more likely candidates.

I find it interesting that none of the people I'd setup spec into one of the scum roles using method 1 are being wagoned. I haven't really looked at method 2 other than one person I'd normally identify for that role is acting pretty townie.

Pedit: @rb: you can be more idiotic if you try.
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Post Post #598 (isolation #86) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 7:18 am

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In post 597, davesaz wrote:RB, I've only actually been playing for an hour.

Titus, what do you mean by an example?
You say you use two methods of setup spec to put players into roles.

Method A: I do xyz to determine abc.
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Post Post #606 (isolation #87) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 7:42 am

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In post 605, The DEO wrote:I think analyzing the numbers just indicates more on personality which can indicate alignment. The players who pick two and low numbers tend to think literally along directions, want to be first and/or more individualustic. Those who pick higher numbers tend to be risk averse players who are communalistic. I would prod more when players pick the same number viewing things differently.
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Post Post #653 (isolation #88) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 10:23 am

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McMenno, you are well beyond the point where we are claiming card amounts.
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Post Post #656 (isolation #89) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 10:29 am

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What is your missing card?
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Post Post #659 (isolation #90) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 10:32 am

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Drone
now you should claim your missing card, as no one underneath you is yet to claim.
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Post Post #662 (isolation #91) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 10:46 am

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In post 661, McMenno wrote:
In post 565, Titus wrote:Because McMenno has a fake missing card now. :(
what's this mean
If you said the Ace of Hearts, we'd learn nothing.
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Post Post #664 (isolation #92) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 10:47 am

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Yup, which has mean townreading you.
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Post Post #726 (isolation #93) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 3:19 pm

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Spoiler: cold updates
In post 544, Titus wrote:
In post 398, Titus wrote:
In post 352, Titus wrote:Ok, left to claim any missing cards are RB, jackal98, MariaR, Vedith, Kraska, Magna, davesaz, kison, drone and vecna.

Myself, Drealmerz and Vifam each have a missing card. Should be 8.

Gotta run.
Actually, it should be 7. The mod communication changes the numbers. Drone has claimed missing a card.

Vedith Kraska Magna davesaz Kison Vecna and McMenno have 3 missing between them. Rb (by being first) is assumed to get all 3 of his
So myself, drone, drealmerz, vifam missing.
Magna, kison, vecna and mcmenno are missing 3 cards between them.


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Titus unknown
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Post Post #727 (isolation #94) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 3:20 pm

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Sorry Drealmerz and Magna are backwards, Magna is next up to claim his missing card.
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Post Post #728 (isolation #95) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 3:21 pm

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Magna is not. It is Drealmerz my bad. Drealmerz up.
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Post Post #730 (isolation #96) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 3:26 pm

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You are. Just your missing card.
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Post Post #735 (isolation #97) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 3:52 pm

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Rephrase for ease of mod. Assuming two King of Diamonds are alive and a diamond is trump, how many lynches does town get?
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Post Post #739 (isolation #98) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 3:57 pm

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Dual lynch triggers on any diamond.
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Post Post #750 (isolation #99) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 5:11 pm

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Transcend wagon is shit. Lil and Kison both good votes.
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Post Post #758 (isolation #100) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 5:30 pm

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I don't like every post on this page but my own. Rb's reads are way off but I am not sring him.
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Post Post #763 (isolation #101) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 6:03 pm

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In post 762, The DEO wrote:
In post 760, Maxous wrote:eh, i did feel kison's vote on uzi was a bit off.

felt like he was being overly semantic

/ 2 cents
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Post Post #770 (isolation #102) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 7:55 pm

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Yeah, not feeling that Kraska.
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Post Post #774 (isolation #103) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 7:59 pm

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Kraska, there's a spot here on the Uzi wagon for you. If I am wrong, I will give you my vote tomorrow when you feel confident in a lynch.
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Post Post #780 (isolation #104) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 8:29 pm

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I considered it but decided against it.

Why did your hood feel confident enough to claim to each other?
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Post Post #790 (isolation #105) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 8:54 pm

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In post 778, kraska77 wrote:Also...from the missing cards...there are two confirmed 7 of hearts in the hearts neighbourhood. card revive feels like something scum are more likely to bid on.......what do u guys think
How do you know there's both 7 of hearts in the hood?
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Post Post #793 (isolation #106) » Sun Dec 04, 2016 8:57 pm

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I is too sleepy. Bed for me.
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Post Post #967 (isolation #107) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 5:24 am

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In post 925, Vecna wrote:Also, even if Titus is town - what she's doing is still more pro-scum than pro-town.
Wrong. We are forcing scum to fakeclaim 3 cards. That makes things harder. We have built in methods of scumhunting from the results too. For instance, Drealmerz is likely town for his bid and results. I cannot see scum bidding on dual lynching. If a king of diamonds dies, diamonds trump comes up, and there's no dual lynch, we can autolynch Drealmerz. Given suit vetos only work for the next day, Drealmerz likely doesn't structure his claim on that.

Second, McMenno is likely town or giving information for towncred. Someone claimed their missing card before him. This means he could have just copied the missing card that claimed before him if he wanted to deny info.

The man at the bottom (I get the vs messed up) is likely town for his bidding strategy and outing the 8 of spades was bid on twice.
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Post Post #976 (isolation #108) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 6:27 am

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Must resist urge to control thread. Must resist urge to control thread. Must resist urge to control thread.

McMenno, I don't care for a Transcend wagon.
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Post Post #980 (isolation #109) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 6:30 am

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In post 978, Creature wrote:Why is it so hard to have a wagon I want?
Well, stop wagoning lurkers in place of scumhunting.
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Post Post #982 (isolation #110) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 6:34 am

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I could plug my nose and wagon Vecna but I wonder if I would be doing it to spite his recent posting.
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Post Post #985 (isolation #111) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 6:35 am

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Kison, Lil, spyrex
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Post Post #990 (isolation #112) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 6:36 am

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Meh, I have cooled on wagoning Creature.
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Post Post #995 (isolation #113) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 6:38 am

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VOTE: Spyrex

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Post Post #996 (isolation #114) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 6:39 am

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In post 994, Creature wrote:Okay, let me take a look at the case, but I don't think this is scum!Drone.
Table this plz.
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Post Post #1003 (isolation #115) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 6:41 am

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In post 997, Creature wrote:You support Drone wagon actually?
*points at table*
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Post Post #1025 (isolation #116) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 6:54 am

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In post 1022, Vecna wrote:Naaaah Just kidding

VOTE: Davesaz
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Post Post #1042 (isolation #117) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 7:02 am

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In post 1037, Vecna wrote:
In post 1032, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:I have a feeling I know where Titus is going with all this information she's been collecting so I'm not okay with ending the day anytime soon. I'd also like to hear more from a few slots.
Whats up buddy, still some teammates u have that still need to activate their abilities?
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Post Post #1048 (isolation #118) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 7:07 am

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In post 1044, Transcend wrote:What does Parkinson mean btw
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Post Post #1055 (isolation #119) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 7:09 am

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I find it interesting that most of those pushing to end the day are on solo wagons, specially Vecna.
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Post Post #1062 (isolation #120) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 7:12 am

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In post 1058, Transcend wrote:Vecna is a weirdo though

And maybe he doesn't like the options he's presented with

Ever think of that?
Then why push a fast day, which provides support to larger wagons he is not on?
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Post Post #1066 (isolation #121) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 7:13 am

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In post 1063, Vecna wrote:
In post 1052, Transcend wrote:Dave is town
Who is dave?
The guy you're voting.

Seriously, you at like butthead.
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Post Post #1078 (isolation #122) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 7:23 am

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@Transcend, Considering he cannot recognize the dude he's voting for, I must disagree.
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Post Post #1212 (isolation #123) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:27 am

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Magna you are up for missing card.
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Post Post #1240 (isolation #124) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 10:40 am

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Yup, this conversation shows me I am likely wrong on Creature.

My missing card... Jack of Clubs.
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Post Post #1244 (isolation #125) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 10:42 am

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So, I will be typing in detail what we learned this evening.

Do say if my crumbs were obvious.
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Post Post #1245 (isolation #126) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 10:43 am

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In post 1243, Vecna wrote:What this game also really needs is that person called THE DEO to start doing something. If he were any further under the radar he'd be a confirmed dolphin
The DEO is my alt slips dude. You really are scum.
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Post Post #1306 (isolation #127) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:43 pm

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In post 1304, rb wrote:It's very weird how you've seen me singlehandedly destroy an entire scumteam but insist my style is 'ego'

Its not ego when it works
Yeah, ego is overconfidence. If you're so confident you're right it tunes people out and makes you less effective, that's overconfidence.
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Post Post #1313 (isolation #128) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 7:39 pm

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Player NameDraft NumberTied WithMissing CardNotes
rb6No OneFirst UpOdd character, feels off but I cannot quite place it. No lynch but observe.
Creature9NoneLikely town. Completely missed the boat to me pushing him over the missing governor cards and began pushing a small pool in which he'd be focused on.
Jackel9814NoneNeeds to give more of a presence in the thread, but I like what I see so far.
MariaR26NoneNot scum. I'm like 90% sure of this.
Vedith42NoneStrongly TRing this as well.
Kraska7777NoneLike seriously?
TitusPi to ten digitsJack of ClubsLine of Demarcation of Jack of Clubs, Scumkill above this line presumed strongman. Hunting above this line suggests fear of scum governor or lack of a scum strongman. Note who pushed for this particular pool after Drone's claim but before my reveal AND who changed tune after my reveal. Wow, I have a fat cell.
MagnaofIllusion4TranscendJack of ClubsLikely clear unless my crumbs were obvious, which is a real possibility. I don't really do subtle well.
Transcend4MagnaofIllusionNoneClaimed a cop disabler. Most of the wagon on him would consequently be town, regardless of his alignment due to the desire for effective power roles over good scumhunting. I can't see why scum Transcend claims to randomize cards like that.
gerryoat5FishythefishNoneI had a townread on this slot earlier, but I cannot remember why.
Fishythefish5gerrygoatNoneThis dude bleeds town due to the early motions in the thread.
daveaz11KisonNoneHasn't said a lot but I can see Dave being town if I squint. Plus I SR Kison.
Kison11davesazNoneDude gives me the chills, and I have the flu. His relationship with Lil Uzi Vert is just unnatural.
gigabyteTroubadour13MaxousNoneTown
Maxous13gigabyteTroubadourNoneI had him as scum earlier. I like his recent posting. Is it solely because he agrees with me?
drealmerz717DroneKing of DiamondsDiamonds suits enable dual lynching. If town has an card flipper, we can know in advance on days we can dual lynch. The players can also reject weaker suits.
Drone17drealmerz7Jack of Clubs.Were my crumbs obvious? Drone feels like scum to me, but that doesn't seem like a move scum make.
Vecna2Dunn/SpyrexNoneAt max one scum in Dunn/Vecna/Spyrex, which makes me regret my current vote. Vecna claimed Ace of Hearts missing
Dunnstral2Vecna/SpyrexNoneSame
SpyreX2Dunn/VecnaNoneSame
McMenno12Lil Uzi Vert/VifamMissing 7 of hearts.Suggested town by claim order.
Lil Uzi Vert12McMenno/VifamCreeps me out.
Vifam12McMenno/Lil Uzi VertMissing 8 of Spades.Two hated 8 of spades. Drew Randomly. Transcend likely is an 8 of Spades as well, as scum picking two eights is widely inefficient.


Based on the chart above, it strongly looks like there is only one scum max in each group of duplicates. That is probably why we cannot get a decent wagon going. Scum don't want to narrow themselves down and would rather have us chasing after governor selectors who might be town. I selected governor because I generally like powers around the lynch and analyzing data. Such roles are also bulletproof which means that scum cannot kill them when clubs are up without a strongman. Creature's fascination with hunting the strongman is oddly interesting. If Creature knew I was basically suspecting he was an evil governor due to his play earlier, it was interesting.

I'm going to sleep on this to figure out a little more where the pieces are, but I strongly think we should be lynching within the partner pairings but NOT Magna/Transcend.

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Post Post #1323 (isolation #129) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 7:52 pm

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Dunn, I am suspecting Vecna actually. Sorry for the confusion there.

As for you RB, unless you suspect that town is actually dumb enough to willingly submit the eight of spades. That leaves 2 scum picking the same high risk role for what? That doesn't make sense. Scum and Scum is out then. Then you have two towns willingly doing that? Nope. So that leaves Town and Scum. The town is most likely the guy who submitting randomly, while the scum is the man sitting in the dark.

Go ahead, try and fight me RB. Data analysis is my thing, and my analysis scares you. Should stick with going deep scum, but flipping Uzi makes two conftown doesn't it?
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Post Post #1325 (isolation #130) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 8:18 pm

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In post 1324, kraska77 wrote:
In post 1313, Titus wrote:Kraska77 77 None Like seriously?
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That means you're obvTown but I want to sync with you but I find it frustrating that you're hellbent on lynching Transcend but I townread them too.
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Post Post #1327 (isolation #131) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 8:21 pm

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Well the fact you'd rolefish me so blatantly for starters.

Regardless of your alignment, you're AOK in my book. If you're having fun, roll with it. Rome isn't built in a day. I will retool my theories and hypothesis as data comes in, and I've been wrong before. Hubris is my weakness. Find yours and you'll be better too.
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Post Post #1527 (isolation #132) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:38 am

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Nope, RB is town by wagon voting and Vecna sheeting him. Plus, he's getting frustratingly wrong and arrogant. Vecna sheeting him is the nail in the coffin.

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Post Post #1529 (isolation #133) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:41 am

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In post 1508, Vedith wrote:
In post 1503, gerryoat wrote:Okay, that's all fine and dandy. But, can you give a sentence reasoning as to why you think she's mafia?
He tunnels her every game i've seen, and he's wrong, every game (on basically anyone).
Pretty pathetic if you ask me. :giggle:
RB isn't pathetic. He just gets sidetracked easily and stubborn. He's about half right in his reads usually.
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Post Post #1548 (isolation #134) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 6:00 am

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In post 1530, rb wrote:
In post 1527, Titus wrote:Nope, RB is town by wagon voting and Vecna sheeting him. Plus, he's getting frustratingly wrong and arrogant. Vecna sheeting him is the nail in the coffin.

Vecna/lil Uzi/kison/drone/one person above me
Are we gonna play the game where u annoyingly call me wrong constantly but then u end up being the one actually wrong?
We were both half right, and you're voting me so I know you're wrong.

Magna, there's little chance of Vifam being scum (being last random is a decent play, and Transcend's play is pretty townie).
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Post Post #1549 (isolation #135) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 6:01 am

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In post 1543, rb wrote:Gerryoat is town. Dont vig.
Agreed. Can you find someone on my list worth lynching?
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Post Post #1552 (isolation #136) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 6:03 am

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In post 1550, McMenno wrote:
In post 1548, Titus wrote:
In post 1530, rb wrote:
In post 1527, Titus wrote:Nope, RB is town by wagon voting and Vecna sheeting him. Plus, he's getting frustratingly wrong and arrogant. Vecna sheeting him is the nail in the coffin.

Vecna/lil Uzi/kison/drone/one person above me
Are we gonna play the game where u annoyingly call me wrong constantly but then u end up being the one actually wrong?
We were both half right, and you're voting me so I know you're wrong.

Magna, there's little chance of Vifam being scum (being last random is a decent play, and Transcend's play is pretty townie).
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Post Post #1557 (isolation #137) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 6:09 am

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P.s. If the deck rigger is scum, both governors are town.
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Post Post #1558 (isolation #138) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 6:09 am

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In post 1527, Titus wrote:Nope, RB is town by wagon voting and Vecna sheeting him. Plus, he's getting frustratingly wrong and arrogant. Vecna sheeting him is the nail in the coffin.

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Post Post #1559 (isolation #139) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 6:10 am

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That's my list.
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Post Post #1565 (isolation #140) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 6:20 am

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In post 1563, Vecna wrote:
In post 1527, Titus wrote:Nope, RB is town by wagon voting and Vecna sheeting him. Plus, he's getting frustratingly wrong and arrogant. Vecna sheeting him is the nail in the coffin.

Vecna/lil Uzi/kison/drone/one person above me
What does this even mean?
That's my scumreads yo!
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Post Post #1566 (isolation #141) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 6:21 am

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In post 1562, rb wrote:Vecna no, kison is ultra compromise, drone i have no particular objections to but i think theres better lynches to flip scum by and uzi is just so painfully playing his town meta i refuse to vote him

Ok, kraska77 and Transcend, can you do kison/drone?

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Post Post #1572 (isolation #142) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 6:30 am

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Sheeting = Sheeping.
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Post Post #1573 (isolation #143) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 6:31 am

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In post 1571, Transcend wrote:I don't actively oppose either lynch Titus, i just don't know how likely either of those slots are to flip scum.

I never info lynch. I always go for a scum fuck, or, at least someone i find somewhat scummy.
That's why I am not voting you but I have my pool.

I feel you/me/Kraska/RB/giga are all town. I want us all to agree but my hold hands and be happy pool might be too big.
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Post Post #1581 (isolation #144) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 6:34 am

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In post 1575, Transcend wrote:Hey


Pick a lynch

I'll sheep you


You demolished a good chunk of that red team (and some of the blue team) in Wake's Role Madness.
Ty. I pick Uzi. :)
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Post Post #1606 (isolation #145) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 6:50 am

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In post 1602, rb wrote:Scum Vecna has literally no reason to antagonize Titus if Titus is town. So I can't buy town titus and scum Vecna rn
Scum Vecna claimed out of order, throwing reads off. Not to thrilled with that. Plus, he has every reason to antagonize me if he wants to peel me off Uzi.
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Post Post #1612 (isolation #146) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 6:54 am

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In post 1610, rb wrote:Except Uzi is town. Recalibrate ur thinking based on that
I'd rope Kison then. But Uzi isn't town. Recalibrate your thinking.

Is my framework correct? What is your list?
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Post Post #1615 (isolation #147) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 6:55 am

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In post 1611, rb wrote:Also gonna be honest I would have simply refused to claim or just said some rsndom shit out of order because i cant stand setup spec so...theres that
Yeah, then it would be spiteful and not a rush accident. I have gotten good at determining when town spite me. TWIE in particular hates VCA.
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Post Post #1616 (isolation #148) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 6:55 am

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In post 1614, rb wrote:Anyway both Uzi and Vecna are town
You are wrong.
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Post Post #1619 (isolation #149) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 6:56 am

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In post 1617, rb wrote:
In post 1612, Titus wrote:
In post 1610, rb wrote:Except Uzi is town. Recalibrate ur thinking based on that
I'd rope Kison then. But Uzi isn't town. Recalibrate your thinking.

Is my framework correct? What is your list?
Uzi is more town than i can express in words. Hes literally a beacon of town lynchbait
Prove me right. If I am wrong, I only vote in your pool tomorrow. If I am right, you sheep mine.
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Post Post #1626 (isolation #150) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 7:00 am

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In post 1623, rb wrote:Titus im not after u sheeping me, im after us solving game together.

With our combined assburgers we can crush any game
Agreed, but right now, we have reached an impasse. How do you propose we breach it other than my proposition?
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Post Post #1633 (isolation #151) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 7:05 am

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In post 1629, Jackel98 wrote:One thing. Whoever said that if the rigger was scum, then the governors would be town: why? Couldn't the scum not have known that the card would be placed publicly, or the scum helping a partner who did get the governor?

You're cute. The card on the top of the deck can create a no lynch, which appears designed to have us go after the governors. Plus, not a diamond so no dual lynches.
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Post Post #1635 (isolation #152) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 7:06 am

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VOTE: Jackal98
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Post Post #1637 (isolation #153) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 7:06 am

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In post 1634, rb wrote:I wish every game was mountainous. It's so much better
I hate mountainous. Game is random until VCA or scumslips.
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Post Post #1657 (isolation #154) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 7:14 am

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In post 1642, rb wrote:
In post 1637, Titus wrote:
In post 1634, rb wrote:I wish every game was mountainous. It's so much better
I hate mountainous. Game is random until VCA or scumslips.
nah u gotta read the psychology of the people in the game and understand their deepest fears and wants in life, and translate it to theit actions in the game
Yeah, lil Uzi wants to rolefish, Vecna wants to shade me, and I got a bunch of towns but that's all because hard data. You want to be the big leader man, but that says nothing about your read accuracy, only that you seek validation.

I did major in psychology. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. Sometimes, it's a dick.
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Post Post #1672 (isolation #155) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 7:19 am

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In post 350, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Wait, I think I know what you're getting at now Titus. I don't think anyone foresaw how useful that power would be though but it can be drawn I think or even given out if I'm reading correctly.
In post 351, Titus wrote:Power of logical deduction ;) Or are you seriously rolehunting me right now?
In post 1326, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
@Fish:
I can link you to one of my completed scum games if you would like.

@Kison:
What? It most definitely was. You voted for her and explained why without any signs of joking that I and I'm sure everyone else can see in your .

As for reads, I've decided to take a different approach this game and just town hunt. I did not expect to have such a difficult time but I guess I'm not ready to handle large games. Starting to think this will be first and last large game for a while.

I'm town reading Creature, Fish, Giga, and rb,

Very worried about Maria, McMemmo, and Vecna.

Scum reading you right now

VOTE: Kison

@Magna:
A bit. Doesn't seem like a solid reasoning to join considering that you haven't read.

@Titus:
Wow, we weren't on the same page at all. I'm a bit disappointed now. Thought you were hinting at the Inventory card. Also again, what creeps you out about me?
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Post Post #1678 (isolation #156) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 7:20 am

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In post 1670, MariaR wrote:
In post 1666, rb wrote:im not sure if thats a srs vote but if so ur rly bad at this game
I am god tier who tf are you to step to me spider loser.
Your vote is bad, even though he won't vote lil Uzi, that doesn't mean vote him. Join us on Jackal man.
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Post Post #1685 (isolation #157) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 7:23 am

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In post 1680, MariaR wrote:
In post 1678, Titus wrote:
In post 1670, MariaR wrote:
In post 1666, rb wrote:im not sure if thats a srs vote but if so ur rly bad at this game
I am god tier who tf are you to step to me spider loser.
Your vote is bad, even though he won't vote lil Uzi, that doesn't mean vote him. Join us on Jackal man.
The vote wasn't srs as much as I wish it was.
I'm gonna assume you missed my question
Hi how are you today and why do you tr me

VOTE: Jack w/e your name is
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Post Post #1692 (isolation #158) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 7:25 am

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In post 1689, rb wrote:I've crumbed all of my cards btw

Have fun setup nerds
Well, you give me something to do now.
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Post Post #1699 (isolation #159) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 7:27 am

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In post 1694, Dunnstral wrote:That's a card flip. It's showing what we get next


Same rank as the gov. Not good. Rank veto or card discard or shuffle the deck if at all possible
But that shouldn't be possible.

Mod: If a player has the queen of hearts, does the heart function activate when a queen of clubs is trump?
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Post Post #1704 (isolation #160) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 7:28 am

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VOTE: Uzi

Not going Maria, RB. Sorry.
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Post Post #1708 (isolation #161) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 7:29 am

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In post 1703, MagnaofIllusion wrote:rb Dec 03, 03:36pm Dec 06, 01:22pm 0 days 0 hours 204
Creature Dec 03, 02:29pm Dec 06, 01:20pm 0 days 0 hours 181
Transcend Dec 03, 06:09pm Dec 06, 01:23pm 0 days 0 hours 170
Titus Dec 03, 02:31pm Dec 06, 01:23pm 0 days 0 hours 158
kraska77 Dec 03, 02:30pm Dec 06, 12:00pm 0 days 1 hour 125
MariaR Dec 03, 02:41pm Dec 06, 01:23pm 0 days 0 hours 106
Dunnstral Dec 03, 03:59pm Dec 06, 04:24am 0 days 8 hours 103

So basically if you are listed here and aren't scum then you really need to re-evaluate why you post so fucking often as it makes the game un-readable for people who aren't trolls.

This Public Service Announcement brought to you by people with common sense!
Everyone on that page is town and trying to get organized, oh and I am not the biggest poster, so yeah I am.
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Post Post #1730 (isolation #162) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 7:38 am

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In post 1716, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1699, Titus wrote:
In post 1694, Dunnstral wrote:That's a card flip. It's showing what we get next


Same rank as the gov. Not good. Rank veto or card discard or shuffle the deck if at all possible
But that shouldn't be possible.

Mod: If a player has the queen of hearts, does the heart function activate when a queen of clubs is trump?
It's beta deck rig then. Which means someone PUT the J at the top of the deck. Scum gov and scum 4 of clovers
Vedith claimed the flip though, which means he deliberately put a governor no dual lynch at the top with a beta rig, when he could have done nothing. Why?

I want the mod to verify my analysis before proceeding in assuming though.
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Post Post #1741 (isolation #163) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 7:42 am

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In post 1738, kraska77 wrote:
In post 1731, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1725, kraska77 wrote:
In post 1716, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1699, Titus wrote:
In post 1694, Dunnstral wrote:That's a card flip. It's showing what we get next


Same rank as the gov. Not good. Rank veto or card discard or shuffle the deck if at all possible
But that shouldn't be possible.

Mod: If a player has the queen of hearts, does the heart function activate when a queen of clubs is trump?
It's beta deck rig then. Which means someone PUT the J at the top of the deck. Scum gov and scum 4 of clovers
why is that a scum card? disabled mafia factional kill
That's not 4 of clovers
can u actually look at what the card that was placed on top of the deck does? it disables the scum nk among other things. calling this move scummy is dumb sry
Wrong analysis. 2 doesn't activate unless a 2 is picked. I am just waiting on the mod to verify that.
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Post Post #1881 (isolation #164) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 1:55 pm

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In post 1851, Vecna wrote:
In post 1699, Titus wrote:
In post 1694, Dunnstral wrote:That's a card flip. It's showing what we get next


Same rank as the gov. Not good. Rank veto or card discard or shuffle the deck if at all possible
But that shouldn't be possible.

Mod: If a player has the queen of hearts, does the heart function activate when a queen of clubs is trump?
Also, after all the card fishing and that fancy diagram I REALLY have a hard time believing a self-proclaimed setup nerd needs to ask the gm about mechanics after the draft has been done. This just screems forced wifom " I HAVENT BEEN IN SCUM CHAT, HONESTLY "
I was asking to be 1100% sure that beta vig was the only card available in play. You're boxed in aren't you?

I find this adorable. The guy who can't follow directions waits days before objecting to any plan when out of mislynches because I keep torpedoing them.

Keep trying.
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Post Post #1882 (isolation #165) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 1:56 pm

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In post 1862, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:probably the two of us can vote transcend or maria and make it a viable wagon too if you want

although you townread transcend? kraska posted a case that i think made me feel better about the vote
You see, they aren't scum. Not on the list.

Why the hell can't my townreads work together or communicate?
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Post Post #1884 (isolation #166) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 1:57 pm

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In post 1877, Vecna wrote:Ugh this is so freakishly annoying.

My Titus case/wagon is not getting any traction because a lot of people just arent really bothered thinking about the setup whatsoever. It should be very apparent to people that have given the setup some thought and that understand the mechanics that what Titus is doing is extremely scummy.
What case?

You not following directions and whining isn't a case at all.

I basically narrowed it down that scum don't care to lynch in the bottom but want to pursue the top governors instead so...
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Post Post #1885 (isolation #167) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 2:00 pm

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In post 1806, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:
hey rb, creature, vifam, kraska, titus, fishy, dave, and drealmerz

and i guess anyone else that's town

we need to powertown the fuck out of scum, and since giving reads is now a thing everyone's doing this is what i'm at (townreads are ordered, everything else isn't):

Spoiler: Giggles's Reads <3
Strong town
  • rb, creature, vifam
Town
  • kraska, titus, fishythefish, davesaz, drealmerz
Townlean
  • Moi-slot, Vecna
Probably town but I can't really read these people
  • Dunnstral, LUV, Spyrex

willing to wagon due to scumreading/nullreading:
  • Jackel
    MariaR
    Vedith
    Transcend
    gerryoat
    Kison
    Maxous
    Drone
    McMenno


at the moment i think Vedith is the best vote, so if you townread him and are one of the names in large print i'd like to know why and who your alternative is. i would rather focus on a lynch that hits a scummy player with set-up information that supports their scumminess rather than vice versa so keep that in mind.

i'm not too thrilled about the card rig and it's p r o b a b l y from scum (doc disabler, ninja, shit-ton of fruit allergies (and a fruit vendor with jacks!!), and beloved aren't worth opening up a neighborhood until we know who's in that neighborhood so), so i'd be down with autolynching anyone with a 4 of clubs too btw

if two people have the four of clubs, should the one who wasn't able to get their rig through claim? it's not really a hard guilty but it would help POE whoever rigged the deck (although going by just that could suck because derptown could have rigged the deck wrong, not that lynching someone who can't use their role right is a terrible idea)

also i don't even know where in this game i left off so :up: :up:

fishy basically said everything else i wanted to about the setup, although i disagree that spades isn't that bad during the night (it's worse!)
On your town reads, I only object to LUV.

I want Vecna, LUV, Kison, Drone, and one name above me that's not MariaR/Creature/rb, preferably Jackal since that has some support.

That's my acceptable lynch pool today. Is it perfect? Probably not. I'm pretty much townreading everyone else though. That's when Vecna starting moaning, which only reaffirms this.
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Post Post #1886 (isolation #168) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 2:00 pm

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*only object to LUV and Vecna
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Post Post #1888 (isolation #169) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 2:01 pm

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In post 1887, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:How do you feel about Vedith?
Town and scum took advantage of his confusion to paint him as the beta vig most likely. I could be wrong there, but I doubt it.
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Post Post #1889 (isolation #170) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 2:02 pm

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*beta vig = beta deck rigger
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Post Post #1893 (isolation #171) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 2:10 pm

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Nah, the beta deck rigger is probably scum. I don't like how Vecna is defending a player he doesn't know when the scum motives are obvious.
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Post Post #1895 (isolation #172) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 2:16 pm

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In post 1894, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:but what are the obvious scum motives?

doc disabler and fruit allergies are the only thing that can affect us and there's no doctors available in a Jack-trump night anyway. beloved only comes into play during the day, there's no trackers so ninja doesn't matter

like the more i look into it the more i see the Jack of Heart's cop getting activation with no downside
You mean a guaranteed no docs night with a cop card that likely wasn't picked due to the more likely effect of just disabling trackers and watchers? Cmon man.
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Post Post #1897 (isolation #173) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 2:20 pm

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In post 1896, Vecna wrote:
In post 1881, Titus wrote:
In post 1851, Vecna wrote:
In post 1699, Titus wrote:
In post 1694, Dunnstral wrote:That's a card flip. It's showing what we get next


Same rank as the gov. Not good. Rank veto or card discard or shuffle the deck if at all possible
But that shouldn't be possible.

Mod: If a player has the queen of hearts, does the heart function activate when a queen of clubs is trump?
Also, after all the card fishing and that fancy diagram I REALLY have a hard time believing a self-proclaimed setup nerd needs to ask the gm about mechanics after the draft has been done. This just screems forced wifom " I HAVENT BEEN IN SCUM CHAT, HONESTLY "
I was asking to be 1100% sure that beta vig was the only card available in play. You're boxed in aren't you?

I find this adorable. The guy who can't follow directions waits days before objecting to any plan when out of mislynches because I keep torpedoing them.

Keep trying.
If you'd actually had read any of my posts you'd know I hadnt read anything in the thread untill my catchup post after 48 hours or so. Its good to see though that this type of crap is the only defence you have got. My vote aint moving anywhere. No matter, Ill patiently sit here with my vote and wait untill you either bus some teammates or people realize youre full of shit when your "reads" flip town.
Just nightkill me already you pompous...scum.

I am reading your posts, as you'll see that I just don't care to inflate the thread with pointless inane chatter.

P.S. Why are you so invested that the beta deck rigger is town?
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Post Post #1900 (isolation #174) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 2:24 pm

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In post 1898, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:and now that i think even more of it

jack of spades is a pretty powerful card in town's hands... so why get rid of it so easily?

shit maybe you're right :/

although wouldn't it be a better plan to pick a weaker spades card, like the 8 (watcher comes into play but is countered by ninja)? the plan is basically to have a doctorless night i'm guessing?
Doctorless night works, particularly with at least two town bulletproofs in the mix if Clubs is drawn. (I'm proceeding under the theory that both J's of Clubs are town).

The only cards the beta rigger can pick are the cards in his hand. If scum felt compelled enough to discard their other deck rigger, the third card either a) doesn't help them or b) doesn't exist. Scum being backed into this corner is interesting. While we don't know 100% for a fact the deck rigger as scum, that seems to be the more plausible solution.
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Post Post #1901 (isolation #175) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 2:24 pm

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In post 1899, Vecna wrote:
In post 1893, Titus wrote:Nah, the beta deck rigger is probably scum. I don't like how Vecna is defending a player he doesn't know when the scum motives are obvious.
I was defending his choice for the card that got put on top. Go ahead then, mention any scum benefits whatsoever to putting the jack of spades up there. Also, keep miscontruing everything I say some more. Itll catch up to you sooner or later.
Just did if you were reading.
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Post Post #1904 (isolation #176) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 2:28 pm

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In post 1902, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:also, other than to rig the deck why would scum take the 4 of clubs? is rigging the deck to stop doctors really worthwhile D1? :/

the tracker doesn't really catch any useful PRs (jailkeepers?? but then they can just join the neighborhood and it's more effective)
If scum have two jacks of spades? This is where long term planning falls a bit. A second Jack of Spades means that diamonds can be vetoed for tomorrow.

It's hard to know exactly what is going on with the scum team, but as of now, they seem to be favoring more mountainous/deny information approach.
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Post Post #1907 (isolation #177) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 2:34 pm

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In post 1905, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:Why do we want diamonds tomorrow? For the double lynch?

this seems like an obvious question tbh but i just want to make sure i'm seeing this right. hearts just looks better to me
That's my personal preference. Now that we know it's out there, let's use it. If we're consistently battling each other, let's see who is right and wrong and we'll have the night phase to reassess.
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Post Post #1908 (isolation #178) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 2:37 pm

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In post 1906, Vecna wrote:Any card that isnt a 2, 6, 7 or 9 would also result in guaranteed no docs, most of them WITHOUT activating any cops.

Scum sacrefising cards to rig the deck has no use unless it activates abilities for them

Also if people actually chose to not pick up the cop cards.....

I wouldnt be surprised if the deck rigger has another J of spades and puts that one on top again to give town 4 cop uses.
Select a card from your hand (other than this one) and place it face up on the top of the deck. If there is another Beta Deck Rigger alive, only the player lower in the draft will succeed.

That's from the setup. They cannot chain. If they had both J of Spades they couldn't put them both on back to back. The deck rigger lost the spade, as evidenced by the card number growing.

Why are you so invested in protecting that role?
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Post Post #1911 (isolation #179) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:04 pm

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Right, that cop that's supposed to disable all heart tracker watchers... that's not a town thing either.

Dude, the rigger isn't protown at all. Just admit you were wrong or claim scum. There's no doc and no investigatives tonight. That's proscum.
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Post Post #2007 (isolation #180) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 4:15 am

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In post 2005, Vedith wrote:
In post 2001, Drone wrote:Can we please decide on a lynch, I'm terrible this day, and having difficulty catching up with all the pages popping up overnight.

Cool with especially MariaR, or Uzi lynches.
Happy with the leading wagon - Votes for Maria instead.
:up: :up: :up: :up: :up:
Drone's scum, what have I been saying? But no interest.

This tells me my crumbs were obvious though.
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Post Post #2010 (isolation #181) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 4:21 am

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Why not a reads list?
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Post Post #2076 (isolation #182) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 6:27 am

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VOTE: Drone
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Post Post #2077 (isolation #183) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 6:29 am

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Transcend is town guys. Jackal/Drone/Vecna/Kison/Lil are scum. Notice how Transcend took off right after Drone, with Jackal's vote. Cmon ppl.
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Post Post #2090 (isolation #184) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 7:06 am

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In post 2082, gigabyteTroubadour wrote:
In post 2081, Vedith wrote:
In post 2079, MariaR wrote:Titus how do you feel about gigascum
More like, Gigadumb!
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Post Post #2091 (isolation #185) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 7:10 am

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In post 2020, Transcend wrote:
In post 2013, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
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This is where I'm at right now

Town: Creature, Fish, Giga, Kraska, and rb
Null: D7, Dave, Dunn, Gerry, Jackal, Max, Milkshake, Vecna, Vedith, Vifam, and Titus
Null Scum: Drone, Maria, McMemmo, Spy, and Transcend
Scum: Kison
U literally have two town reads voting u and u r doing nothing about it

Do u not care about getting lynched g
He was pleading w me too as if he knew I was town, yet I am null as an afterthought. Every other list is perfect abc order and oh shit forgot Titus.
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Post Post #2166 (isolation #186) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 1:13 pm

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I will dump a bunch of maggots on your fruit.
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Post Post #2171 (isolation #187) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 2:23 pm

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Dude, was I wrong to townread you?
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Post Post #2306 (isolation #188) » Sat Dec 10, 2016 6:13 am

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Mod: Does the top card of the deck trigger and disable all cops tonight?
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Post Post #2307 (isolation #189) » Sat Dec 10, 2016 6:13 am

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Nevermind. It only acts during day.
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Post Post #2309 (isolation #190) » Sat Dec 10, 2016 6:21 am

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VOTE: Lil Uzi Vert

I don't see how Transcend's play benefits scum.
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Post Post #2328 (isolation #191) » Sat Dec 10, 2016 6:50 am

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The kill on Creature does tell us something. Either scum has the other 6 of clubs OR scum felt safe enough to shoot above me with two know bulletproofs or desperate enough.
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Post Post #2333 (isolation #192) » Sat Dec 10, 2016 6:54 am

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In post 1490, Creature wrote:I don't really want to lynch Titus D1.
In post 1647, Creature wrote:VOTE: Jackel98
You want to try stepping to me again Maxous? Creature's last desires were Jackal98 and Milkshake.

Tell me why I shouldn't pound you and Jackal into the ground today.

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Post Post #2335 (isolation #193) » Sat Dec 10, 2016 6:55 am

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In post 2332, MariaR wrote:
In post 2328, Titus wrote:The kill on Creature does tell us something. Either scum has the other 6 of clubs OR scum felt safe enough to shoot above me with two know bulletproofs or desperate enough.
Wait what? did I miss something?
Yes. There are two Jacks of Clubs (bulletproofs) above me. To shoot above me, scum would have to be aware of a bulletproof possibility or have a strongman and not care.
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Post Post #2339 (isolation #194) » Sat Dec 10, 2016 6:57 am

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In post 2334, drealmerz7 wrote:maria (this also applies to other players but I am addressing maria right now specifically since she asked)

I have a huge issue with your playstyle, to me it is scummy to be scummy so that when you draw scum you can be scummy even though you are the same way as town - it goes beyond it being anti-town, it's subversive scummy play AS town, and...

it's shit play, imo, and I would vig. it pretty readily on a game-to-game encounter with you if I had vigs because of the potential for you to just be hiding as scum in it - problem is on MS it seems to be pretty regular to play scummy so that when you draw scum you can get away with it - I never encountered such play before coming here and I don't like it, I think it brings down the game
There are players who play scummy as town and townie as scum. MariaR is one.
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Post Post #2341 (isolation #195) » Sat Dec 10, 2016 6:57 am

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In post 2336, davesaz wrote:
In post 2328, Titus wrote:The kill on Creature does tell us something. Either scum has the other 6 of clubs OR scum felt safe enough to shoot above me with two know bulletproofs or desperate enough.
With spades trump last night, how is this relevant?
I need my morning jolt. Point taken.
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Post Post #2344 (isolation #196) » Sat Dec 10, 2016 6:59 am

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Why is 2310 a scumclaim?
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Post Post #2345 (isolation #197) » Sat Dec 10, 2016 7:00 am

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In post 2342, MariaR wrote:
In post 2335, Titus wrote:
In post 2332, MariaR wrote:
In post 2328, Titus wrote:The kill on Creature does tell us something. Either scum has the other 6 of clubs OR scum felt safe enough to shoot above me with two know bulletproofs or desperate enough.
Wait what? did I miss something?
Yes. There are two Jacks of Clubs (bulletproofs) above me. To shoot above me, scum would have to be aware of a bulletproof possibility or have a strongman and not care.
ohhh I see okay
Nah Dave made a point clubs were not active, so that means scum probably shot where it was safe to.
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Post Post #2347 (isolation #198) » Sat Dec 10, 2016 7:04 am

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Drealmerz, Maxous lied about Creature wanting me roped and omitted Creature's scumread on Jackal.
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Post Post #2361 (isolation #199) » Sat Dec 10, 2016 7:19 am

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In post 2351, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:
In post 1153, Creature wrote:Which includes these:
In post 0, Quipla wrote:6 - rb
9 - Creature
14 - Jackel98
26 - MariaR
42 - Vedith
77 - kraska77
3141592653 - Titus
4 - MagnaofIllusion
In post 1173, Creature wrote:Whoever votes outside rb, me, Jackel, Maria, Vedith, kraska, Titus and MoI should be looked at.
In post 1490, Creature wrote:I don't really want to lynch Titus D1.
Quick skim of Creature's ISO and I think Maxx might have been referring to these posts. The first post is him wanting everyone to start looking for scum there.
Ancient history.

I am more concerned with why Maxous townreads Lil so hard.
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