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Post Post #3 (isolation #0) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 12:35 pm

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VOTE: psychotic Dave
Psychos kill people.
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Post Post #10 (isolation #1) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 12:49 pm

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In post 6, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:VOTE: keyenpeydee

Pandas don't dab!
Sure they do

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Post Post #12 (isolation #2) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 12:54 pm

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I'm not psycho. I'm eccentric
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Post Post #16 (isolation #3) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 1:00 pm

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Now you got that crappy song stuck in my head.

VOTE: uzi
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Post Post #17 (isolation #4) » Sat Dec 03, 2016 1:01 pm

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In post 15, -Grey- wrote:
In post 12, TwoFace wrote:I'm not psycho. I'm eccentric
Mr. Nigma is an eccentric.

You are a zealot.
Still not a psycho though
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Post Post #40 (isolation #5) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:50 am

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VOTE: keyen
Wheeeeee
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Post Post #45 (isolation #6) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:40 am

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Learn to math. He's l-3
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Post Post #47 (isolation #7) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:46 am

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Lol the vc on my phone has key's vote on gamma on a separate line and it looks like he didn't have any votes. My apologies
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Post Post #49 (isolation #8) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:47 am

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In post 48, JarJarDrinks wrote:
In post 4, Vijarada wrote:VOTE: JarJarDrinks for taking a character that ruined a movie and making a bad pun out of it
Anakin ruined TPM way more than Jar Jar did.

...and it's a pretty good pun.
You can't be serious about anakin/jar jar
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Post Post #71 (isolation #9) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 5:51 am

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In post 67, Gear wrote:I've played with Keyen before, I was scum, and had a front row seat to him OMGUSing everyone who suspected him (among other things, but that's what's relevant here). I saw that from him here, and it's good enough for me for now. Now, I am voting someone new.
But he hasn't omgused everyone voting him.
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Post Post #75 (isolation #10) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 6:39 am

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In post 74, keyenpeydee wrote:Are we out of RVS?
Why does it matter?
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Post Post #79 (isolation #11) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 6:57 am

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In post 77, Gear wrote:
In post 72, JarJarDrinks wrote:VOTE: Gear

for that fake-ass scumhunting
There is no way that you believe that.

Vote: Jar-Jar
There's no way you believe Keyen is town for the reason you gave since what you said happened, never actually happened.
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Post Post #85 (isolation #12) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 7:09 am

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It wasn't a good answer at all

How was my vote contrived? I like easy wagons especially in rvs
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Post Post #92 (isolation #13) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 7:28 am

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In post 88, Tywin Lannister wrote:Why would you like easy RVS wagons? Do you like not having to scum hunt?
i'm confused by your question, because rvs wagons help with scum hunting not hinder them.

but in general though I am a tortoise, not a hare when it comes to traditional scumhunting
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Post Post #93 (isolation #14) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 7:29 am

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In post 90, Tywin Lannister wrote:Also: meta sucks. It's lazy and bad play without a clear substantial pattern over many games, and even then, any half decent player can switch things up regardless of alignment knowing so many people on these forums think meta is useful. Unless they're a robot, then anyone can easily change their meta every game.

I see people use meta constantly in this forum and ice never understood why.
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Post Post #102 (isolation #15) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:46 am

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In post 99, Gamma Emerald wrote:JJD feels like town. Gear too.
why and why?
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Post Post #103 (isolation #16) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:48 am

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In post 100, JarJarDrinks wrote:
In post 85, TwoFace wrote:How was my vote contrived? I like easy wagons especially in rvs
Cuz ur "wheeee" looked phony to me. Like you were purposefully trying to act casual w/ ur vote.
lol, that wasn't acting casual. that's acting excited.

and are better examples of casual
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Post Post #105 (isolation #17) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 9:57 am

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why jar?
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Post Post #112 (isolation #18) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 10:14 am

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In post 106, Tywin Lannister wrote:They may jump start conversation, but no more than anything else does
right, jump starting conversation helps getting people talking, when people talk they say things to help figure people out.
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Post Post #118 (isolation #19) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 11:57 am

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In post 117, -Grey- wrote:
In post 105, TwoFace wrote:why jar?
100 was forced.
Yeah I could see that.
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Post Post #124 (isolation #20) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:29 pm

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^ smh

Mental note. Keep an eye on that guy
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Post Post #126 (isolation #21) » Mon Dec 05, 2016 2:40 pm

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Vijarda. That was terrible reasons to vote someone. They aren't AI things.
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Post Post #171 (isolation #22) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 2:34 am

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Ok
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Post Post #173 (isolation #23) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 2:36 am

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No it isn't. Useless perhaps but not scummy
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Post Post #178 (isolation #24) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:04 am

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yeah key is a good lynch. I get people don't want to rush things but sometimes rushing isn't so bad. Just had a game end where we lynched someone quickly and it worked in town's favor because he was scum and it helped the PRs find the other scums
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Post Post #180 (isolation #25) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:18 am

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if key flips scum, keep an eye on tywin.
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Post Post #185 (isolation #26) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:22 am

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In post 181, JarJarDrinks wrote:I have rask as a strong townread.
for realz? idk how anyone can have a strong town read at this point in the game.
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Post Post #186 (isolation #27) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:23 am

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In post 184, JarJarDrinks wrote:
In post 180, TwoFace wrote:if key flips scum, keep an eye on tywin.
tywin looks town to me.
right, but if key is scum his reaction to the key wagon makes more sense from a scum buddy
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Post Post #197 (isolation #28) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:11 am

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In post 188, Gamma Emerald wrote:If key flips town?
then obviously I would not keep an eye on him...
In post 189, JarJarDrinks wrote:maybe but still wouldn't scumread him based on that alone.
never said I would. Also can you please not offer me advice on how to play my game. thank you
In post 192, keyenpeydee wrote:2F, your reads are as shit as ever. I remember you being so aggressive and ruining town.
uhh just going to say no comment and ignore this.

I will say that I am not even being aggressive right now.
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Post Post #199 (isolation #29) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:30 am

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btw key, I have 3 completed games and town won all 3 games so i am pretty certain I have not ruined any games.
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Post Post #204 (isolation #30) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:44 am

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In post 202, gerryoat wrote:Just because someone votes you doesnt mean they are mafia or making up reads.
I always seem to forget this.
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Post Post #217 (isolation #31) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 7:44 am

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what are we supposed to be looking at?
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Post Post #219 (isolation #32) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 7:50 am

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yeah I get that but what specifically is one game going to do for anyone?
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Post Post #220 (isolation #33) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 7:52 am

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I mean I already see differences between the 2 games
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Post Post #235 (isolation #34) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 9:00 am

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In post 228, keyenpeydee wrote:
In post 178, TwoFace wrote:yeah key is a good lynch. I get people don't want to rush things but sometimes rushing isn't so bad. Just had a game end where we lynched someone quickly and it worked in town's favor because he was scum and it helped the PRs find the other scums
Opportunistic
not really
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Post Post #273 (isolation #35) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 11:00 am

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In post 239, Tywin Lannister wrote:This is just bad play. You wouldn't keep your eye on me if Keyan flipped town? Really? Only scum know alignments, so if i were scum, wouldn't it make sense for me to not defend my scum buddy, but defend a townie wagon? I think that's common sense. What I don't like is you trying to pair me with Keyan for no reason other than me asking why the Keyan wagon got so large without any reasoning behind it. You don't seem to like that though. Why? You don't like bad wagons explained? There are plenty of things to vote Keyan for that were no apparent at that point in the game. That means those votes need explanations.

Also, you're not aggressive, just abrasive. There's a difference. You haven't added anything to the conversation that justifies it though.
What's bad play? Me wanting to keep an eye on you if key flips scum but not town? Well sorry I disagree which is why I said what I said.

Also there is no black and white with regards to what scum will do to their buddies. Some people bus, others don't. Early day 1 if a scum buddy gets into trouble it's a tough decision on what's the best way to handle it and I could totally see you as a buddy attempt to discredit the votes like you did. It's the type of defense that can be written off as a cautious townie.(for example, in the game I just finished where scum got lynched fairly early day 1, one scum flat out called the guy town.) There's no one absolute way to handle a partner getting run up.

I'm also not concerned with what you like. I call things as I see them. If that makes somebody upset/nervous/etc that's not my problem.

Also I'm not trying to pair you with anyone. You're the second person to make that mistake. Keeping an eye on somebody doesn't mean I automatically think they are scum. It just means I'll have to reread their posts to see if they make sense as a buddy. That post you made just struck me as odd.
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Post Post #275 (isolation #36) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 11:16 am

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In post 222, keyenpeydee wrote:
Spoiler: Quotes
Note that I'm quoting this as a new link so I just copied and paste it. Quotes are being randomized.
In post 164, Tywin Lannister wrote:Hmm. I didn't have it as a scum read at all really against Lil Uzi. Looked inconsequential, but I didn't like Rask's shut down followed by calling the game 'newbie' as an aside. It seems Rask is trying to avoid conversation here, and regardless if the question was about an older post (this game hasn't even been active long enough for that time lapse excuse), what exactly was wrong with the question to shut it down and claim 'this is so newbie' after? Rask said it was a joke, and then called it ridiculous for others to not take it that way.

I find all that to be far too defensive for little reason. Aside from defensive, it has not-so-subtle barbs littering the whole post sequence. Elitism/ego at work, or scum shutting down anything before it starts? If Rask is such a light hearted player who jokes oh so much, then why am I reading it differently than supposedly intended? Maybe the humor is forced? Otherwise, it may just be bad.

Your thoughts Rask?
Accurate.
In post 143, Raskolnikov wrote:
In post 137, keyenpeydee wrote:Why am I scummy? @whoeversaidthat
You sound awkward and come off pretty self-conscious, in particular you play it cool in your reaction and pretend like you aren't nervous when it feels like the complete opposite.

You have any thoughts on the game so far?
My thoughts on the game are being unrealistic. Everybody seems normal to me although I find Gear, 2F and JarJar sketchy. Oh yeah post is not a good response but what I agree with.
In post 141, gerryoat wrote:
In post 140, -Grey- wrote:
In post 138, gerryoat wrote:
In post 137, keyenpeydee wrote:Why am I scummy? @whoeversaidthat
If you read someone saying you were scummy, how do you not know who said it?
What did you hope to accomplish with that question?
It looks like forced to me. I mean it's not like it's been 20 pages, it's been 6. He could have asked directly, but instead it looked like he was trying to avoid direct confrontation with someone
It's not. Look, I woke up at that time, trying to read the unread posts. Just finished it and too lazy to where I read that. But see, I've quoted it. Is there still a problem with that? And if I'm avoiding confrontation with someone, then I shouldn't be playing mafia after all.
In post 71, TwoFace wrote:
In post 67, Gear wrote:I've played with Keyen before, I was scum, and had a front row seat to him OMGUSing everyone who suspected him (among other things, but that's what's relevant here). I saw that from him here, and it's good enough for me for now. Now, I am voting someone new.
But he hasn't omgused everyone voting him.
You expecting me to do that?
In post 80, Gear wrote:
In post 60, keyenpeydee wrote:
In post 58, Gear wrote:
In post 53, keyenpeydee wrote:Yyyyyyyyyyyy
The red letters in your role pm.
No. You looked at your role pm.

VOTE: Gear
In post 61, Gear wrote:Do you think I'm scum?
In post 62, keyenpeydee wrote:Yes. Maybe.
Non sense. Do you expect me to say your town when you've actually did is to act, not scummy, but not that townish?
In post 97, Vijarada wrote:I think Keyen is town. He seems pretty genuine right now. I also concur with JJD in that Gear's reasoning was pretty garbage, but I don't think garbage reasoning is a scum-tell.
I think you're scum because I read you as like my scum partner on that newbie game.
In post 101, JarJarDrinks wrote:
In post 95, Raskolnikov wrote:I actually think keyen could be scum here
agree
Why?
In post 122, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:.
Keyen - why so concerned about whether or not we're in RVS?
So I know if I'll post another shit posts.


All in All here's my reads:

Town:
Lannister

NullTown or just unsure reads:
All that isn't mentioned.

Leaning Town:
Gamma
Vijarada
Ssbm

NullScum:
Dave
TwoFace
Rasko

Leaning Scum:
Gear
JarJar
Why waste time making half ass reads list? At least take the time to explain them or something
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Post Post #312 (isolation #37) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 1:21 pm

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In post 281, gerryoat wrote:
In post 192, keyenpeydee wrote:2F, your reads are as shit as ever. I remember you being so aggressive and ruining town.
In post 193, keyenpeydee wrote:lol yeah fine lynch me. go ahead.
In post 225, keyenpeydee wrote:JarJar, I still don't get why you're scum reading me. Mind to give reasons?
idk guys, he kinda sounds like me when I'm fos'd as town and upset lol. I'm kinda hesitant to vote him based on that alone. I want to see what he 'figured out' when he gets back, though.
Meh that really could come from either alignment.
What I don't like is his immediate attempt to discredit me especially when we have never played a game together.

That's why I didn't really respond to him and alerted the game mod. He's modding a game I played and that's ongoing and it's kinda fucked up he resorted to that imo.
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Post Post #323 (isolation #38) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 1:36 pm

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In post 291, Tywin Lannister wrote:I think town should keep their eye on me regardless of what Keyan flips. That's my point. I also don't know why you paired me with him, except for me asking for reasons from the early voters on him. I think it's a fair question to ask.
I keep my eye on people I'm suspicious of. I ignore people who annoy me or say stupid things, and the rest i go with the flow until I paired you because like I said that comment struck me as something I could see coming from a buddy. I've actually seen scum get caught like that before. If you aren't scum I don't see why you are so worried about it.
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Post Post #325 (isolation #39) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 1:38 pm

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In post 294, Vijarada wrote:Not a fan of two-face saying that Tywin should be looked at if keyen is scum, then saying "There's no one way that buddies interact, we should just read Tywin after a scumflip to see if they make sense as buddies". That seems like a different position taken after questioning.
I'm not telling anyone how they should read Tywin actually. I just said how I'm going to. At least get your facts straight
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Post Post #329 (isolation #40) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 2:25 pm

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In post 317, Raskolnikov wrote:Everyone please, I've played with jarjar multiple times and he rubs a few people the wrong way every time with his somewhat "harsh" or judgmental-looking demeanor. I don't think he's scum here.
Yeah jar seems very town to me.
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Post Post #352 (isolation #41) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:39 pm

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In post 345, Tywin Lannister wrote:That doesn't seem like a townie statement. Townie TwoFace should watch everyone regardless
This is absurd. I can't be suspicious of everyone. Townies should not be suspicious of everyone when the math proves town outnumber scum. I'm not going to be "keeping an eye on" people I don't think are scum. I honestly don't believe that you don't understand the reference.
In post 345, Tywin Lannister wrote:Whatever Keyan flips wouldn't make me more/less town.
I obviously disagree. I may not be correct in thinking you and he could be paired, but that's what I'm currently thinking.
In post 345, Tywin Lannister wrote:What's the goal with the pairing statement?
To let others know that I think there's a possible connection in case somewhere down the line I'm not around. I try to be transparent with my scum reads.
In post 345, Tywin Lannister wrote:He claims he isn't telling anyone else what to do after the fact, but told 'town' to watch me in his original post.
Why do you go and lie right now? I never told anyone to watch you. Here's what I said.
In post 124, TwoFace wrote:^ smh

Mental note. Keep an eye on that guy
You should be smart enough to know what mental note means. I didn't tell anyone anything and don't appreciate you and keyan twisting the truth.
In post 345, Tywin Lannister wrote:It seems like he's flip flopping his stance based on whether he gets questioned on it or not.
I haven't flip flopped on anything actually. Please provide evidence or I'll consider this a second lie.
In post 345, Tywin Lannister wrote:He also gets very defensive/abrasive about it too, which seems odd to me
Well then you will always find me odd because I'm a defensive/abrasive player in general. I've even got that I'm defensive in my signature cause it keeps coming up. If people say things about me that aren't true, I'm going to set the record straight. I'm also not in elementary school and know nobody else on this site is either so they don't get treated with kids gloves.
In post 345, Tywin Lannister wrote:although maybe he just likes being an Internet tough guy
Shit son. You haven't even seen me close to my worst yet. Keep lying about me though. That's a good way to poke the bull.
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Post Post #353 (isolation #42) » Tue Dec 06, 2016 5:42 pm

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In post 350, Tywin Lannister wrote:
In post 180, TwoFace wrote:if key flips scum, keep an eye on tywin.
In post 325, TwoFace wrote:
In post 294, Vijarada wrote:Not a fan of two-face saying that Tywin should be looked at if keyen is scum, then saying "There's no one way that buddies interact, we should just read Tywin after a scumflip to see if they make sense as buddies". That seems like a different position taken after questioning.
I'm not telling anyone how they should read Tywin actually. I just said how I'm going to. At least get your facts straight
Posting this for future TwoFace attack on me, since his personality makes me assume it's a guaranteed reaction.
Seems unnecessary. I was only going to focus on you if key flipped scum. Though lying is a big no no for me so you definitely dropped down a few notches.
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Post Post #364 (isolation #43) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:13 am

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In post 356, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 355, -Grey- wrote:
In post 354, Gamma Emerald wrote:Tywin's focus on TF doesn't feel right to me.
Why not?
It feels like he's too concerned about TF's association
Maybe scum caught for the wrong reason
Yeah that's what I said earlier. He's making a big deal out of something so small.
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Post Post #365 (isolation #44) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:15 am

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We need to lynch keyen first
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Post Post #367 (isolation #45) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:25 am

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Let me read his posts later and I'll tell you.
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Post Post #368 (isolation #46) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:56 am

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Dave is null. Hasn't don't anything protown but hasn't really done anything scummy either. Really hasn't done anything
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Post Post #370 (isolation #47) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 2:33 am

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In post 369, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:So mental notes are like things that you keep to yourself though. It seems like a stretch to say that Tywin and Keyen are twisting the truth because it looks pretty easy to interpret your posts the way they seem to be doing
Yes mental notes are usually things kept to myself but I also have to make my scum reads and potential scum reads known somehow. Being dead and not having my reads out is bad.

They did twist the truth (nice way to lighten up that they actually lied btw) cause they both accused me of telling others what to do and I didn't at all. I even quoted my post which clearly shows I wasn't telling anyone else to do anything.
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Post Post #378 (isolation #48) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 3:01 am

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In post 371, keyenpeydee wrote:2F then immediately said 178 which I think is being opportunistic. Especially when he said: "I get people don't want to rush things but sometimes rushing isn't so bad. Just had a game end where we lynched someone quickly and it worked in town's favor because he was scum and it helped the PRs find the other scums" - I don't see this relation with what he said that I am a good lynch. If it's his gut, It's weak.
that certainly isn't opportunistic at all. Like MAYBE you could call my early vote on you opportunistic, but not this.
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Post Post #379 (isolation #49) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 3:05 am

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In post 371, keyenpeydee wrote:I need your reasons compiled on me why you think I'm a good lynch instead of Tywin who you find scummy?
I already said that I think tywin is probably scum if you are scum, so clearly i am not going to be voting him right now. I much prefer your lynch because i feel your reaction to the quick votes on you were bad, I don't see you acting the same way in the game that gear linked, and I don't appreciate how you immediately tried to discredit me by calling me a bad player and saying I ruin games when 1. that wasn't true at all and 2. your only experience with me is ongoing which violates site rules.
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Post Post #381 (isolation #50) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 3:24 am

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well obviously it's weak that's why i am not pushing it right now. I think you are scummier than anyone else in the game right now so that's why i want you lynched. I don't really care if you or anyone else thinks my reasons are shitty, sometimes scum can be caught for shitty reasons.

your reactions and play don't look pro-town to me atm. i don't really see anyone making a good case on somebody else either so that leaves you as the scummiest player right now.
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Post Post #389 (isolation #51) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 5:02 am

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In post 385, keyenpeydee wrote:Rasko, He's clearly not. Saying I need to be treated with kid gloves is offensive btw.
it may be offensive, but that's him defending you. He's basically saying we need to give you a break.
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Post Post #394 (isolation #52) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 5:37 am

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In post 393, JarJarDrinks wrote:though honestly Fried Oreos are so amazing that I wouldn't really care how they were made
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Post Post #397 (isolation #53) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 5:47 am

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In post 395, Tywin Lannister wrote:I got attacked by TwoFace for even questioning it
you did? who attacked you?
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Post Post #400 (isolation #54) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 5:55 am

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In post 397, TwoFace wrote:you did? who attacked you?
I suck at reading. You were saying I attacked you.

clearly that is false. I never attacked you.
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Post Post #401 (isolation #55) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 5:55 am

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In post 395, Tywin Lannister wrote:How many vote changes has this been for Gamma?
why does it matter? changing votes isn't scummy
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Post Post #404 (isolation #56) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 6:03 am

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These analogies are silly. What are we talking about actually
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Post Post #416 (isolation #57) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 7:05 am

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In post 405, Gamma Emerald wrote:The fact that after looking over JJD and Gear's posting my read on them changed
And who has an issue with that?
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Post Post #417 (isolation #58) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 7:07 am

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In post 409, keyenpeydee wrote:
In post 391, Raskolnikov wrote:Keyen what do you see as the difference between twoface and jarjar that made you decide on twoface?
The difference is: I'm being back and forth on JarJar by this:
In post 317, Raskolnikov wrote:Everyone please, I've played with jarjar multiple times and he rubs a few people the wrong way every time with his somewhat "harsh" or judgmental-looking demeanor. I don't think he's scum here.
Which basically made me rethink that maybe JarJar could be possible town, just harsh and aggressive or maybe that you two are scum buddies. So, well, I decided to go on 2F first.
You use somebody else's meta read change your mind? :facepalm:
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Post Post #420 (isolation #59) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 7:22 am

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Much worse? Hardly. All you've basically pointed to was one post that felt was opportunistic and that's basically it. You're scum reading me for scum reading you.
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Post Post #421 (isolation #60) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 7:23 am

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In post 418, Raskolnikov wrote:VOTE: Psychodave

There's still weirdness from keyen but I could see a lot of it coming from rvs + wagon nervousness and phone-posting (any maybe language barrier).
I kind of like because it feels as though he's owning up to what was said in some way if that makes sense. Idk about the explanations but they aren't terrible, and his reads/pov at this point isn't that unreasonable either.
Why Dave? He's useless but not scummy.
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Post Post #424 (isolation #61) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 7:35 am

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meh, that isn't good enough. he could just be another in a long line of useless townies. anything that feels like a PL i'm staying away from. I don't see scum intent in his posts. Like when he said he didn't really have any reads, I don't see scum saying that.

I think the keyen wagon is stale because scum lynches are hard to get through and people have this icky feeling with speed wagons. keyen's reaction to that early wagon didn't feel town to me. Like if I was him i'd have gone hard after me for my vote, he didn't. he just decided to violate site rules and just flat out discredit me. That is scum motivated imo. I don't see why town would do something like that.
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Post Post #427 (isolation #62) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 7:45 am

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In post 426, JarJarDrinks wrote:
In post 424, TwoFace wrote:I think the keyen wagon is stale because scum lynches are hard to get through and people have this icky feeling with speed wagons.
Yeah I feel this too.
yet your voting gamma...
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Post Post #428 (isolation #63) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 7:45 am

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you're*
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Post Post #430 (isolation #64) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 7:48 am

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you made a case on him? if so which post
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Post Post #433 (isolation #65) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 7:49 am

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Thanks, i'll make my way through that at some point
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Post Post #436 (isolation #66) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 7:55 am

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In post 432, -Grey- wrote:No way is Gamma scum in this game.
I feel like gamma is town also, but want to examine the case. Did you read his case? thoughts?
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Post Post #465 (isolation #67) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:40 am

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In post 461, JarJarDrinks wrote:Go back and read page 15.

Like am I crazy or was grey defending tywin right before he voted for him?
nah he was sort of defending him
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Post Post #493 (isolation #68) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 10:30 am

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In post 472, Tywin Lannister wrote:I'm not TwoFace. Pairing is pointless this early in the game, and I also won't call you a liar right after you post evidence proving whatever point you were making was.
:lol:

You never proved shit about me. I proved you lied.

Btw pairing isn't stupid. If you think you know who one scum is, finding partners is a good idea. I've seen games where town delayed ending a day early when a pr caught scum so town could find possible partners.
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Post Post #495 (isolation #69) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 10:32 am

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In post 485, JarJarDrinks wrote:Grey/Keyen/psychodave is the scumteam.

What do I win?
Nothing cause I'd wager anything this isn't the team.
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Post Post #496 (isolation #70) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 10:33 am

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In post 489, JarJarDrinks wrote:
In post 486, -Grey- wrote:Explain what my scum motive is.
Why do I need you to have a scum motive. I townread tywin so isn't that a good enough reason for me to sheep him?
How can he be a town read?
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Post Post #506 (isolation #71) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 10:42 am

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In post 499, JarJarDrinks wrote:
In post 496, TwoFace wrote: How can he be a town read?
Cause he's playing an incredibly pro-town game. I do think his read on u is wrong though.
What's he done that is pro town?

Cause lying certainly isn't.
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Post Post #511 (isolation #72) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 10:49 am

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In post 508, Vijarada wrote:JJD/2Face/Dave is the current scumreads I have. More later, maybe. Busy rn. Sorry guys, this game is moving so fast.
Worst reads ever
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Post Post #527 (isolation #73) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 12:30 pm

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In post 523, Tywin Lannister wrote:Really? Are you seriously this egotistical that you believe that? I showed your two quotes side-by-side showing how you literally did it, and now you continue to lie about it and call me the liar instead
You didn't prove shit. Cause you can't prove shit. All you can do is prove I've given my opinions about you.

Remember this?
In post 345, Tywin Lannister wrote:He claims he isn't telling anyone else what to do after the fact, but told 'town' to watch me in his original post.
Go find my original post and that will 100% disprove that. I've already quoted it once. I've even explained how you're wrong.

So stop talking to me now. I'm done taking to liars.

Now I think key is mafia scum pr.
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Post Post #534 (isolation #74) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 1:18 pm

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In post 530, Raskolnikov wrote:Twoface I think tywin is a red herring. I believe you remember byf.

Tywin I can empathize (I think you fought over a technicality) but it might be better not to egg someone on if you don't think they're scum.
Byf?
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Post Post #536 (isolation #75) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 1:29 pm

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In post 535, Gamma Emerald wrote:BigYoshiFan.
Sounds familiar. What about him
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Post Post #537 (isolation #76) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 1:44 pm

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In post 530, Raskolnikov wrote:Twoface I think tywin is a red herring. I believe you remember byf.

Tywin I can empathize (I think you fought over a technicality) but it might be better not to egg someone on if you don't think they're scum.
Fine I'll ignore him.
Can we lynch keyen? Cause nobody else suggested interest me.
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Post Post #542 (isolation #77) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 2:07 pm

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In post 539, gerryoat wrote:How do you know he's useless but not scummy
Cause that's how I perceive them.
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Post Post #544 (isolation #78) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 2:50 pm

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In post 541, gerryoat wrote:
In post 529, PsychoticDave wrote:Could we get a vote count?
this dude comes back and all he asks for is a vote count, despite there being questions on him.
He answered questions.
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Post Post #546 (isolation #79) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 2:53 pm

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Right but Gerry didn't ask him any questions so what's he harping about?
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Post Post #549 (isolation #80) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 2:59 pm

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In post 548, gerryoat wrote:
In post 546, TwoFace wrote:Right but Gerry didn't ask him any questions so what's he harping about?
I jut find it weird to come back and not have anything to add except "can we get a vote count"
Right it's odd. That's why I said he's useless. Considering the concept of the game, I don't see scum doing that.

He's another in a long line of useless players. Almost every game has one or 2.
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Post Post #559 (isolation #81) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 3:41 pm

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In post 222, keyenpeydee wrote:
Spoiler: Quotes
Note that I'm quoting this as a new link so I just copied and paste it. Quotes are being randomized.
In post 164, Tywin Lannister wrote:Hmm. I didn't have it as a scum read at all really against Lil Uzi. Looked inconsequential, but I didn't like Rask's shut down followed by calling the game 'newbie' as an aside. It seems Rask is trying to avoid conversation here, and regardless if the question was about an older post (this game hasn't even been active long enough for that time lapse excuse), what exactly was wrong with the question to shut it down and claim 'this is so newbie' after? Rask said it was a joke, and then called it ridiculous for others to not take it that way.

I find all that to be far too defensive for little reason. Aside from defensive, it has not-so-subtle barbs littering the whole post sequence. Elitism/ego at work, or scum shutting down anything before it starts? If Rask is such a light hearted player who jokes oh so much, then why am I reading it differently than supposedly intended? Maybe the humor is forced? Otherwise, it may just be bad.

Your thoughts Rask?
Accurate.
In post 143, Raskolnikov wrote:
In post 137, keyenpeydee wrote:Why am I scummy? @whoeversaidthat
You sound awkward and come off pretty self-conscious, in particular you play it cool in your reaction and pretend like you aren't nervous when it feels like the complete opposite.

You have any thoughts on the game so far?
My thoughts on the game are being unrealistic. Everybody seems normal to me although I find Gear, 2F and JarJar sketchy. Oh yeah post is not a good response but what I agree with.
In post 141, gerryoat wrote:
In post 140, -Grey- wrote:
In post 138, gerryoat wrote:
In post 137, keyenpeydee wrote:Why am I scummy? @whoeversaidthat
If you read someone saying you were scummy, how do you not know who said it?
What did you hope to accomplish with that question?
It looks like forced to me. I mean it's not like it's been 20 pages, it's been 6. He could have asked directly, but instead it looked like he was trying to avoid direct confrontation with someone
It's not. Look, I woke up at that time, trying to read the unread posts. Just finished it and too lazy to where I read that. But see, I've quoted it. Is there still a problem with that? And if I'm avoiding confrontation with someone, then I shouldn't be playing mafia after all.
In post 71, TwoFace wrote:
In post 67, Gear wrote:I've played with Keyen before, I was scum, and had a front row seat to him OMGUSing everyone who suspected him (among other things, but that's what's relevant here). I saw that from him here, and it's good enough for me for now. Now, I am voting someone new.
But he hasn't omgused everyone voting him.
You expecting me to do that?
In post 80, Gear wrote:
In post 60, keyenpeydee wrote:
In post 58, Gear wrote:
In post 53, keyenpeydee wrote:Yyyyyyyyyyyy
The red letters in your role pm.
No. You looked at your role pm.

VOTE: Gear
In post 61, Gear wrote:Do you think I'm scum?
In post 62, keyenpeydee wrote:Yes. Maybe.
Non sense. Do you expect me to say your town when you've actually did is to act, not scummy, but not that townish?
In post 97, Vijarada wrote:I think Keyen is town. He seems pretty genuine right now. I also concur with JJD in that Gear's reasoning was pretty garbage, but I don't think garbage reasoning is a scum-tell.
I think you're scum because I read you as like my scum partner on that newbie game.
In post 101, JarJarDrinks wrote:
In post 95, Raskolnikov wrote:I actually think keyen could be scum here
agree
Why?
In post 122, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:.
Keyen - why so concerned about whether or not we're in RVS?
So I know if I'll post another shit posts.


All in All here's my reads:

Town:
Lannister

NullTown or just unsure reads:
All that isn't mentioned.

Leaning Town:
Gamma
Vijarada
Ssbm

NullScum:
Dave
TwoFace
Rasko

Leaning Scum:
Gear
JarJar
Why did you leave grey off?
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Post Post #562 (isolation #82) » Wed Dec 07, 2016 3:44 pm

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Oh my bad
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Post Post #577 (isolation #83) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 3:37 am

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if keyen isn't gonna happen, i'd be ok with grey but think keyen is a good lynch
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Post Post #586 (isolation #84) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 4:53 am

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can we lynch keyen now?
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Post Post #588 (isolation #85) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 5:15 am

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In post 585, PsychoticDave wrote:Claiming a protective is an overused tactic.
I agree, but we aren't lynching him regardless.

i don't believe the claim either fwiw
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Post Post #590 (isolation #86) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 5:20 am

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I don't lynched claimed PRs day 1
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Post Post #604 (isolation #87) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 7:58 am

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interesting Vij is requesting a replacement...
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Post Post #607 (isolation #88) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 9:42 am

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who would you rather lynch gamma?
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Post Post #609 (isolation #89) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 9:44 am

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who else? jar reads town to me, especially given that grey is probably scum
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Post Post #616 (isolation #90) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 10:57 am

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I guess I need to sit down and look over stuff. I don't remember seeing anyone framing key. I honestly think people want to give him a pass cause he was wagoned early and people assume that's always on a townie.
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Post Post #622 (isolation #91) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 12:13 pm

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In post 619, gerryoat wrote:Why do people keep voting key? And why aren't more people voting PsychoticDave. -Grey- idk if you're new or anything, but you shouldn't have claimed right away like that, you weren't even on L-1 yet.
I think key is scum. I feel Dave is a policy lynch. He's lynchbait
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Post Post #626 (isolation #92) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 1:53 pm

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But what scum would ever do something like that?
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Post Post #628 (isolation #93) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 2:15 pm

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So he's bad but you can't tell the difference if it's bad town or bad scum.

That's a policy lynch.

I'll pass
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Post Post #631 (isolation #94) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 3:26 pm

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Looks like it's a slow night. Nobody really talking. Maybe it'll pick up tomorrow
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Post Post #638 (isolation #95) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 1:20 am

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In post 633, Gamma Emerald wrote:Okay mental reboot
Tywin prons town for his skepticism, TF may be scum for consistently dodging Tywin's request for a case.
VOTE: TwoFace
1. I said a while ago I'm ignoring Tywin
2. I've already stated my reasons for key. He can stop being lazy and look for them.
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Post Post #639 (isolation #96) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 1:24 am

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In post 635, keyenpeydee wrote:
In post 577, TwoFace wrote:if keyen isn't gonna happen, i'd be ok with grey but think keyen is a good lynch
You feel like I'm a good lynch because I stated you will ruin town? Bad reason.
I'm catching up now. Would want to provide reads with this JJ and Grey exchange.
The way you said it wasn't a townie response. Your wagon wasn't really a serious one and you immediately decided to discredit me. That's scummy. If you were town you would have noticed nobody had a reason for you and ignored it.
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Post Post #640 (isolation #97) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 1:30 am

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In post 42, keyenpeydee wrote:@Gear, last time I checked, I got no private topics in this game. Oh yeah, nice to play again with ya.
In post 53, keyenpeydee wrote:Yyyyyyyyyyyy
Don't like this one just cause it feels like an attempt to throw people off. Nobody an verify
In post 60, keyenpeydee wrote:
In post 58, Gear wrote:
In post 53, keyenpeydee wrote:Yyyyyyyyyyyy
Useless. You should have been trying to interact with the people voting you
The red letters in your role pm.
No. You looked at your role pm.

VOTE: Gear
This is you showing no originality. Not really AI but it's a bad post
In post 74, keyenpeydee wrote:Are we out of RVS?
This seems nervous to me. Like you are hoping somehow the wagon on you was just rvs and you don't have to do anything to get the votes off you
In post 137, keyenpeydee wrote:Why am I scummy? @whoeversaidthat
You should have known who said it and directly interacted with them
In post 192, keyenpeydee wrote:2F, your reads are as shit as ever. I remember you being so aggressive and ruining town.
Violating site rules to discredit somebody voting you. it's just shit play on your part, you're probably scum for it. I don't really see why you would do it as town.
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Post Post #641 (isolation #98) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 1:32 am

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The yyyyyyy post just feels like whining
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Post Post #643 (isolation #99) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 1:34 am

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In post 637, keyenpeydee wrote:I'll just state this before I read the Grey thing-y again:

So I could see people jumping on my wagon and thanks for gerry and lannister, who called me keyan instead of keyen, for actually wanting a case on me. Seriously though, I need the case compiled so I could understand my wagon. Let's compare me to Dave: The difference between me and Dave is me posting more contents that I believe is enough for myself (Scums wouldn't want to believe it was a content-worthy post because it was posted by the-so-called scummiest person) to explain my reads. Dave, on the other hand, is just posting one sentence.

So if yall would like to lynch me because I'm an easy lynch, think about it more. Who's more the easiest lynch: Me or Dave? The reason I'm asking this is even though I'm not posting some content-worthy post, but still I'm trying to communicate and help town whilst Dave is actually admitting he's dumb town. So yall would like to remain Dave, who could be just a newbtown who's posting non sense, and if LyLo comes, he'll say: "I think X is scummy so Vote X" but Y is the real scum. So yeah, so much for the newbtown to let win the game.

I don't care if this post itself is scummy, but think about it. Nevertheless, we're both the easiest lynch but I find Dave scummy so he's more a lynch-worthy than the-so-called scummy bitch.
Only 3 people are voting you. How about you ignore those people and just scum hunt and find scum yourself?

Don't worry about who is voting for you and why. You haven't done any scum hunting. That's another negative imo
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Post Post #644 (isolation #100) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 1:38 am

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In post 642, keyenpeydee wrote:So you declare my posts as serious posts and not rvs posting?
Yes cause that's not how rvs works. Every post can and wil be used against you. I've seen scum get lynched for a shitty series of rvs posts
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Post Post #647 (isolation #101) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 2:42 am

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Ugh
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Post Post #653 (isolation #102) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 3:46 am

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In post 652, JarJarDrinks wrote:Grey is scum and while he is technically voting for kenyan, I wouldn't say he's adament about lynching him w/o question.

The 2 of them have pretty much ignored eachother throughout the game despite being them both being popular wagons. Grey made his claim and I think it was pretty obvious that the votes were gonna move to keyen so it's not like he had much of a choice w/ who he could vote for.
so much this.
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Post Post #658 (isolation #103) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 4:33 am

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I also don't think it's fair to say that keyen is an easy lynch, because outside of the early RVS wagon which really doesn't mean anything, he hasn't been close to getting lynched. i also don't agree that absolutely everyone has been willing to vote/lynch keyen. if that was the case keyen would have way more votes on him atm.

-gear- - says keyen is not a town read, votes keyen after he claims - that's basically it. the vote is a throwaway. probably thinks he can derail the keyen wagon by being on it
Gamma - said recently that he would vote keyen but only after somebody explained a case, before that he really doesn't give much on him
gear - sort of came to keyen's defense early on. hasn't really done much of anything the rest of the game
Jarjar - been calling keyen scum for a while.
Uzi - - says he is unsure of him, can't see motivation for either alignment
Dave - says he thinks keyen is probably town
Rask - been calling keyen scum for a while
ssbm - early on said he would be willing to lynch him, but now thinks he is being set up
tywin - defending keyen the hardest probably, but reacted poorly when suggested he could be scum with keyen
Vij - wasn't scum reading keyen


so looking at this, maybe 3/4 of the 13 players are adamant about lynching key, the rest are either unsure or defending him so Tywin's assertion is completely off base
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Post Post #660 (isolation #104) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 4:42 am

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i could see keyen, grey, uzi scum team actually.
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Post Post #701 (isolation #105) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 8:46 am

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In post 699, keyenpeydee wrote:I'm done. Lynch me. I am scum. Town wins.
:lol:
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Post Post #709 (isolation #106) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 9:01 am

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In post 706, keyenpeydee wrote:Scum:
2F
JJD
Rasko

Game solved. Bye
that's the worst list ever
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Post Post #712 (isolation #107) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 9:04 am

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grey is basically caught scum
jar/gray team make no sense
i'm super obvious town
rask - I have no read on him but he doesn't really make any sense as scum

so no it's not the truth, like not even close. how you leave caught scum off your list is beyond me, sort of confirms that you probably are scum just floundering at this point
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Post Post #716 (isolation #108) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 9:07 am

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In post 713, Gamma Emerald wrote:The fact TwoFace isn't unvoting pretty much confirms him as scum.
And JJD.
why the fuck would i unvote the guy who just claimed scum?
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Post Post #718 (isolation #109) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 9:08 am

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but you're not so stfu scum
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Post Post #720 (isolation #110) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 9:50 am

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well i am not going to magically do a 180 on my scum read because of some shitty reaction test. #SorryNotSorry
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Post Post #723 (isolation #111) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 9:56 am

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In post 722, Gamma Emerald wrote:keyen is towntelling big time rn.
or trolling. gtfoh with that "I am confirmed scum by not unvoting" bullshit

I am not scum AND I am not unvoting. If you're town you are just being stupid right now.
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Post Post #729 (isolation #112) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:36 am

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In post 725, keyenpeydee wrote:Bitch you just broke the rules.

Mod - JJD broke the site wide rules. He needs to be force replaced.
Pot meet kettle.
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Post Post #731 (isolation #113) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:43 am

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If key isn't lynched. Just lynch me. Playing with key/Tywin/ gamma/ and now fitz is going to be too annoying
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Post Post #735 (isolation #114) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 1:13 pm

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So possibly 2 scum caught day 1. That's a good day imo.
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Post Post #736 (isolation #115) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 1:13 pm

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Didn't even need to use my AK
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Post Post #784 (isolation #116) » Sat Dec 10, 2016 1:06 am

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In post 751, keyenpeydee wrote:If there is any living cop here and I flipped town, Cop JarJar. Trust me.
Sure thing chief.
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Post Post #791 (isolation #117) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 5:52 am

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vote grey
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Post Post #798 (isolation #118) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:54 am

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In post 793, JarJarDrinks wrote:Just wanna say my strong townread on 2face is downgraded to a slight town lean.

I don't scumread him or anything but I feel like he never really wanted grey lynched.
because I didn't really want him lynched. I really wanted keyen lynched. At the time grey was run up I was knee deep in a keyen/tywin shit storm
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Post Post #801 (isolation #119) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:57 am

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who is that directed at?
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Post Post #806 (isolation #120) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 8:02 am

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In post 803, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Yeah I'm not sure why any of you guys bought that claim.

VOTE: Grey

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I don't think anyone bought it. are you reading? multiple people said they thought the claim was not legit
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Post Post #811 (isolation #121) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 8:13 am

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In post 810, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:That Dave kill looks like a Vig shot.
dumb ass vig
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Post Post #816 (isolation #122) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 8:26 am

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In post 812, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:if this flips scum vig gear or havingfitz, pref gear
+1, especially if it's fitz
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Post Post #820 (isolation #123) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 8:30 am

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In post 818, Gamma Emerald wrote:SK p much never appears in Mini Normals from what I've heard.
from mini 1400 to present, 24 times actually
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Post Post #822 (isolation #124) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 8:31 am

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In post 821, Gamma Emerald wrote:I'd figure an SK would go for Grey over anyone else, given they had already claimed PR, too.
why would sk go after somebody who was most likely going to be lynched the next day?
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Post Post #824 (isolation #125) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 8:40 am

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In post 819, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Even more likely to be a vig since Dave was a priority lynch option yesterday though
he shouldn't have been a priority lynch. he was obviously not scum.
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Post Post #828 (isolation #126) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 9:55 am

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In post 827, Tywin Lannister wrote:I was the first to vote/go after him yesterday
to be fair you went after him because he was going after you.

neither of you went after each other very hard though
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Post Post #829 (isolation #127) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 9:58 am

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and your 180 on keyen was definitely suspicious
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Post Post #832 (isolation #128) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 10:08 am

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In post 831, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:
In post 207, PsychoticDave wrote:I caught up and still have null reads on pretty much everyone...
Like I don't see how this is "obviously not scummy"
How is scum?

not having reads is scummy? Why? How can it be?

Scum can half ass some reads.
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Post Post #833 (isolation #129) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 10:11 am

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Most scum are going to at least try to appear town. I've never seen scum win by being useless. Scum win by trying to appear useful and staying off the radar
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Post Post #835 (isolation #130) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 10:14 am

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In post 834, Tywin Lannister wrote:
In post 829, TwoFace wrote:and your 180 on keyen was definitely suspicious
The same can be said about your hard push on him to be lynched. Regardless, I see all townies on the key wagon except grey. Also, my push on grey wasn't 'weak' unless you compare it to your hard push on key. Grey didn't have a push on me, because he stated clearly it was a 'sheep' vote. He didn't actually think I was scum.
Very rarely is scum going to hard push a wagon day 1. They like to keep their options open
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Post Post #836 (isolation #131) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 10:16 am

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There's probably one more scum on keys wagon
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Post Post #839 (isolation #132) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:52 am

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You didn't answer my question. Why is not having reads scummy?
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Post Post #858 (isolation #133) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 1:07 am

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Tywin said his next preferred lynch was gear. No idea if that was a crumb or not though.
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Post Post #860 (isolation #134) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 1:15 am

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That's why I said I don't know if it was a crumb. The day ended too fast
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Post Post #862 (isolation #135) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 1:29 am

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That's dumb. Mafia can talk at night so they know his ability. If you're town you've again proven you are a liability.

I'd like to hope it's a sk cause if it's a vig he's terrible
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Post Post #863 (isolation #136) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 1:34 am

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VOTE: gear

Please post content. You've been flying under the radar
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Post Post #866 (isolation #137) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 2:50 am

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cop/doc/1 shot commuter with a vig which is a negative utility role isn't too much power imo when mafia had a strong man
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Post Post #869 (isolation #138) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 3:30 am

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town is fucked
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Post Post #871 (isolation #139) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 3:49 am

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no but if we have a SK, this is probably mylo for town and with no real leads and a way too short day phase when we lynched scum, I don't see how we can find connections to grey
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Post Post #872 (isolation #140) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 3:56 am

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i'd vote gerry or gear today. maybe jarjar
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Post Post #873 (isolation #141) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 4:26 am

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Since it could be mylo.

UNVOTE:
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Post Post #876 (isolation #142) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 6:38 am

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In post 874, Gamma Emerald wrote:I'm the vig. I don't intend to shoot if we lynch town.
VOTE: gamma

Not with kills like that you aren't.
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Post Post #877 (isolation #143) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 6:44 am

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Which were your kills? None of these make sense for vig targets
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Post Post #880 (isolation #144) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 6:56 am

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In post 274, Gamma Emerald wrote:Trying to form reads from a combined ISO
ssbm looks town
keyen town
Rask town
In post 776, Gamma Emerald wrote:Guess I might as well give twilight reads.
Dave is definitely town. Gerry is possibly scum. Tywin is likely town. Feeling JJD town. Grey scummy.
I'm being ridiculous?

He shot dave. Who's definitely town in his twilight read. Bullshit.

Had ss as town at one point. Ss was town after the grey flip.

He's the SK
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Post Post #881 (isolation #145) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 6:57 am

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Like Dave fine I could see that coming from bad vig. Not SS though.
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Post Post #883 (isolation #146) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 7:14 am

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Dave maybe but Ssb was clearly not a vig target
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Post Post #888 (isolation #147) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 8:23 am

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In post 872, TwoFace wrote:i'd vote gerry or gear today. maybe jarjar
forgot grey and jjd were going back and forth. just noticed that again when looking at grey

could be scum theatre but for not i'll say it's not

gear/gerry I think are good candidates for scum, vijay slot could be as well given he replaced out around the time when grey was getting pressured and given grey was a powerful role maybe he didn't want to deal with it. (pretty weak I know but I am paranoid person)

UNVOTE:
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Post Post #890 (isolation #148) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 8:29 am

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plus dave was his town read, vig isn't going to shoot a town read ever
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Post Post #894 (isolation #149) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 8:39 am

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In post 892, JarJarDrinks wrote:Is this true?
I just posted it in
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Post Post #910 (isolation #150) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 11:36 am

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How on earth could you think ssb was scum when grey flipped? I don't see how you got there.
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Post Post #911 (isolation #151) » Fri Dec 16, 2016 11:37 am

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Why not shoot gear? Or even fitz?
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Post Post #920 (isolation #152) » Sat Dec 17, 2016 5:18 am

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Uzi was one of the people who voted for grey when he didn't have to.
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Post Post #921 (isolation #153) » Sat Dec 17, 2016 7:46 am

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In post 581, gerryoat wrote:I'm voting PsychoticDave right now, I could vote Grey though, I haven't really liked any of his content.
We should lynch this guy.
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Post Post #922 (isolation #154) » Sat Dec 17, 2016 7:47 am

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^ that was made when grey was at l-2
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Post Post #923 (isolation #155) » Sat Dec 17, 2016 7:49 am

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In post 844, gerryoat wrote:I can't believe Dave was town, he also should have pushed on -grey- harder.
Btw no he shouldn't have.
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Post Post #924 (isolation #156) » Sat Dec 17, 2016 7:55 am

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VOTE: Gerry
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Post Post #942 (isolation #157) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:22 am

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In post 940, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 784, TwoFace wrote:
In post 751, keyenpeydee wrote:If there is any living cop here and I flipped town, Cop JarJar. Trust me.
Sure thing chief.
What's up with this?
It was a 2fer. Kind of a sarcastic remark to him but also an attempt to make scum think I'm the cop
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Post Post #946 (isolation #158) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 10:56 am

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Well twoface isn't scum so you can cross that name off your list. Assuming you're town which is a huge assumption given how useless you've been. But then again that's your play style.
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Post Post #947 (isolation #159) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 12:21 pm

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Can you explain your Gerry town read please. His name appears 3 times in your iso and 2 are in your last post.
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Post Post #948 (isolation #160) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 12:33 pm

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mod. What's going on with the gear slot? Have they been prodded?
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Post Post #952 (isolation #161) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 1:09 pm

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Even if you happen to be town, there's pretty much nothing you can say that makes your fast hammer better.

Problem is I know you're a liability as town so I can't even tell if this is town Gerry doing what town Gerry does or scum Gerry trying to cut discussion
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Post Post #954 (isolation #162) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 3:58 pm

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I think scum is in gear/Gerry/fitz.

Honestly have no clue how jarjar could be in anyone's scum list given grey's flip. Vijay was very useless and had a horrible list of reads that made no sense from a tow pov.
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Post Post #956 (isolation #163) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:25 pm

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In post 924, TwoFace wrote:VOTE: Gerry
In post 925, gerryoat wrote:Yes, I was thinking about voting him, but I fos'd Dave more. And then I believe he claimed BG right after, so I wasn't going to vote him then.
Your outrage now seems odd. Should have happened way back when I voted you.

And what's scum motivates about me thinking you're scum?

You refused to vote grey
You quick hammered him the next day to end discussion when there was no rush
You're reason for it was bullshit

You're scum
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Post Post #959 (isolation #164) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:29 pm

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In post 958, gerryoat wrote:also twoface it's been proven that you're shit at reading me, so dont even try
Thanks for acknowledging I'm town
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Post Post #960 (isolation #165) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:30 pm

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In post 581, gerryoat wrote:I'm voting PsychoticDave right now, I could vote Grey though, I haven't really liked any of his content.
In post 583, -Grey- wrote:I'm a bodyguard.
You avoided his wagon before he claimed btw
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Post Post #961 (isolation #166) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:30 pm

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Seems like stalling to me.

I'm good with roping you. If you're town fuck your attitude
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Post Post #964 (isolation #167) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:40 pm

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Well I'm the only one voting you so you're reaction isn't justified imo.
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Post Post #967 (isolation #168) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:47 pm

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I really think vijay replaced out due to his buddy getting run up.
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Post Post #969 (isolation #169) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:49 pm

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Gerry is a terrible reader
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Post Post #973 (isolation #170) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:25 pm

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That doesn't confirm you are town.
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Post Post #975 (isolation #171) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:32 pm

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In post 966, gerryoat wrote:well gear cant be solo scum. since he hasnt been here to do actions. so there might be 2 mafs left and gamma be vig
In post 968, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 949, eagerSnake wrote:
Prodding Gear. They have 24hr to make a game-advancing post. (Gear was prodded at end of last phase and responded. They are also V/LA on weekends.)
In post 969, TwoFace wrote:Gerry is a terrible reader
Thanks for proving my point.
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Post Post #977 (isolation #172) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:45 pm

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Anyone with a 2nd grade reading level can tell what I was talking about.
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Post Post #979 (isolation #173) » Mon Dec 19, 2016 5:50 pm

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In post 978, gerryoat wrote:Twoface, why are you such a jerk all the time lol.
I just say what I'm thinking. That's the wonderful thing about the Internet. I don't have to be fake.

My comment came right after gamma corrected you're mistake. How you thought I was talking about anything else is beyond me.
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Post Post #984 (isolation #174) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 5:29 am

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Gamma. Are you compulsive?
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Post Post #989 (isolation #175) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 7:41 am

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In post 987, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 984, TwoFace wrote:Gamma. Are you compulsive?
No.
So why shoot n1? Mislynch = no shoot.
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Post Post #1004 (isolation #176) » Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:20 pm

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In post 1003, Gamma Emerald wrote:Grey is truly NOT a GreyICE alt then.
Duh
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Post Post #1017 (isolation #177) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 3:09 am

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just checking in to say gerry is still my desired lynch. i'd als go with fitz.
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Post Post #1021 (isolation #178) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 8:50 am

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There's no way you're town and think jar is scum with grey unless you think that was scum theatre which seems unlikely
The fact you aren't even considering gear is suspect. He's done nothing

If you're town you're wrong in that list cause I'd bet money jar isn't scum and I'm not either.
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Post Post #1027 (isolation #179) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 9:04 am

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In post 1025, havingfitz wrote:each other is worthless
coming from you i'll take that as a compliment cause you have done nothing of value thus far and you replaced in like 2 weeks ago.

There is no way you have read this game and think jar/grey are scum together. if you think so you need to provide evidence that they were bussing/distancing from each other cause day 1 I just don't see scum doing that.

p.edit - you too gamma. explain how jar/grey team makes sense
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Post Post #1031 (isolation #180) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 9:12 am

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idk even what that means

i've already pm'd the mod yesterday betting him that you were going to vote me after your isos, because you have been telegraphing that for a while so why not quit stalling and vote me already.

side note
Spoiler:
also some constructive criticism going forward, if you are actually town. In the future can you please think about revising your playstyle.

Your playstyle typically is to post once every couple of days or so and do these huge wall type posts that nobody really reads. You also typically avoid directly conversing with people.

this makes you look scummy because you do a lot more IIOA and you do very little scum hunting.

it's why I always think you are scum in games, and why others do as well.


Until you explain to me how jar/grey makes sense, i'll ignore you from now on.
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Post Post #1032 (isolation #181) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 9:13 am

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In post 1029, havingfitz wrote:Your ISOS are next.
I won't be reading it anyway, just like I haven't read any of your other wall posts.
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Post Post #1039 (isolation #182) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 9:38 am

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I almost always read fitz as scum so I have no issues with that but i still like my gerry vote. not knowing if we have an SK or a vig makes me leery about getting anyone to l-2
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Post Post #1044 (isolation #183) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 1:57 pm

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In post 1041, gerryoat wrote:havingfitz, I still think your slow could be town cause even tho Vij had a bad read on me, his thought process was townie. But your 180 read flip on me when 2face suddenly voted me is sketchy
Suddenly? Not quite
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Post Post #1045 (isolation #184) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 1:57 pm

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In post 1043, gerryoat wrote:Everyone out a reads list please, that would help a lot. From towniest to scummiest
Nobody do this
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Post Post #1054 (isolation #185) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:18 pm

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In post 1046, gerryoat wrote:
In post 1044, TwoFace wrote:
In post 1041, gerryoat wrote:havingfitz, I still think your slow could be town cause even tho Vij had a bad read on me, his thought process was townie. But your 180 read flip on me when 2face suddenly voted me is sketchy
Suddenly? Not quite
You haven't outed a SR on me until today. Then he iso's me and says his tr on me took a "hit" and suddenly i'm 2/3 in SRs
I haven't outed an sr on you until today true.

My outed SR on you came before I did the iso and voted you though.

There's this little thing that town has to do when flips happen. They have to reevaluate their reads.
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Post Post #1056 (isolation #186) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:24 pm

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In post 1047, gerryoat wrote:TwoFace - This guy, has had shit reads on me before in another game when we were both town. He tunneled me until I eventually outed as PR. And I WAS RIGHT THE WHOLE TIME ABOUT MY READS. And he still called me garbage. He's a jerk, so it could be his same town game. But, his read on me is garbage.
Why'd you leave out the fact that you falsely accused me of something that someone else did and that started me my tunnel? Or the fact that you never even apologized to me for it. Fuck off.

I'm sick of you calling my reads garbage. Stop playing like scum and I won't scum read you.

Scum probably avoided voting grey. You directly avoided voting ng grey. When asked about it you said because he claimed bg. Problem is he claimed bg AFTER you avoided voting grey.

That makes you look bad.

Is that townie who made a mistake or scum who didn't want to bus? I have no fucking clue.

Your play and attitude makes me think scum so I'm rolling with that.
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Post Post #1057 (isolation #187) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:25 pm

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In post 1048, gerryoat wrote:
In post 1045, TwoFace wrote:
In post 1043, gerryoat wrote:Everyone out a reads list please, that would help a lot. From towniest to scummiest
Nobody do this
rofl this guy.
Learn how to play mafia if you're town. This late in the game with mylo/lylo looking list reads only help scum
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Post Post #1061 (isolation #188) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:27 pm

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In post 1058, gerryoat wrote:You said that last time. "Your play and attitude makes me think scum" and you were wrong. You're just stubborn cause i'm calling you out
Well then work on you're attitude if you're town

Based on what's available you're the most likely to be scum and you insulting me doesn't help.

Now piss off and stop talking to me
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Post Post #1062 (isolation #189) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:29 pm

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I'm ignoring the guy who has no clue wtf he's taking about.
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Post Post #1067 (isolation #190) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:38 pm

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In post 1064, gerryoat wrote:
In post 1061, TwoFace wrote:
In post 1058, gerryoat wrote:You said that last time. "Your play and attitude makes me think scum" and you were wrong. You're just stubborn cause i'm calling you out
Well then work on you're attitude if you're town

Based on what's available you're the most likely to be scum and you insulting me doesn't help.

Now piss off and stop talking to me
SO you're voting on me just cause of my attitude? Hahaha. This guy can dish it but not take it. I'll talk to whoever I want. You're the one who needs to stop acting like a baby.
Nice misrep cause that's not what I said at all.
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Post Post #1068 (isolation #191) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:39 pm

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In post 1056, TwoFace wrote:Scum probably avoided voting grey. You directly avoided voting ng grey. When asked about it you said because he claimed bg. Problem is he claimed bg AFTER you avoided voting grey.
In post 1061, TwoFace wrote:Based on what's available you're the most likely to be scum
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Post Post #1071 (isolation #192) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:48 pm

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In post 581, gerryoat wrote:I'm voting PsychoticDave right now, I could vote Grey though, I haven't really liked any of his content.
In post 583, -Grey- wrote:I'm a bodyguard.

Bg claim came after. Grey was largest wagon.

So take your caps. Turn them sideways and shove them up your roody poo candy ass.

If you smelllllllllllllllll what twoface is cooking.

Now go piss off
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Post Post #1072 (isolation #193) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:49 pm

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In post 619, gerryoat wrote:Why do people keep voting key? And why aren't more people voting PsychoticDave. -Grey- idk if you're new or anything, but you shouldn't have claimed right away like that, you weren't even on L-1 yet.
Had we listened to you we would have got a PR to claim. You probably suspected he was one.
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Post Post #1074 (isolation #194) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:52 pm

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Calls my reads shit but refused to vote scum and tried to lynch the doctor. If you're town you have no place to judge anyone.

Yeah you're still the guy who got lynched as a town pr before.
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Post Post #1077 (isolation #195) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:54 pm

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Gerry is the right lynch today.
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Post Post #1079 (isolation #196) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:56 pm

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In post 1076, gerryoat wrote:
In post 1074, TwoFace wrote:reads shit but refused to vote scum and tried to lynch the doctor. If you're town you have no place to judge anyone.

Yeah you're still the guy who got lynched as a town pr before.
Hey lets count how many times one of us mislynched on town this game?

1: Twofaced

0: Gerry.
Easy to do when you know who's town.

Let's do a count of who quick hammered to end discussion when multiple people said that we shouldn't rush

Gerry - 1

Everyone else - 0

Quick hammer when scum lynch is inevitable ONLY helps scum. That's why scum usually self hammer.

Gerry is scum. Let's roll guys
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Post Post #1080 (isolation #197) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:57 pm

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In post 1078, gerryoat wrote:
In post 1077, TwoFace wrote:Gerry is the right lynch today.
How about instead we vote someone who mislynched town. ^^^^^^ this guy
See that's not even protown thinking.

Thanks for confirming you're scum.
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Post Post #1083 (isolation #198) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 2:58 pm

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You realize there can be mislynches with just 1 scum right? I've seen with no scum.

You have no idea if more than 1 scum was on the wagon or not. You aren't even scum hunting.

Lynch me. I don't give a fuck. I've already marked this down as a probable loss anyway
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Post Post #1085 (isolation #199) » Wed Dec 21, 2016 3:01 pm

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In post 1082, gerryoat wrote:OMG I HAMMERED MAFIA.
You realize you don't earn town points for this right?

Nobody on the grey wagon day 2 earn town points.

You're quick hammer HURT town. It didn't help it at all.

People asked not to rush the day. There was no town motivation to end it early. You're excuse was bullshit also.

Occam's razor says you're scum.
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