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This unvote is weird.
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What's your mafia experience?In post 63, PsychoticDave wrote:Either keyenpeydee hasn't been lynched yet because scum don't want to lynch their buddy, or people are being cautious.
One of the two, really...-
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You sound awkward and come off pretty self-conscious, in particular you play it cool in your reaction and pretend like you aren't nervous when it feels like the complete opposite.In post 137, keyenpeydee wrote:Why am I scummy? @whoeversaidthat
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I feel like voting without reading the keyen-gear meta for what gear mentioned would be somehow irresponsible but at the same time I really can't be bothered to do meta research this early into a game-
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Lol WTF what kind of expectations are theseIn post 122, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:VOTE: Gear
Voting TwoFace arbitrarily looks bad to me. You should be able to tell that Dave's post is one of someone who is more used to a faster paced mafia environment where random speedwagons are common D1, so he shouldn't be a consideration.
Clearly, you should be able to infer from the style of his posting that he is from a faster paced environment, and in such environments speedwagons are more common, so he shouldn't be a consideration for you based on that.
Jesus christ what is this projection do you actually expect this much out of people?
Not to mention that even if true that doesn't somehow clear, it would just make the thing nullish.-
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This is the part you should expand on. Although if you had a legitimate complaint about gear it should probably be how fast the meta read came when what keyen did wasn't even much of an omgus. That added reasoning about what he said of dave is ridiculous though and if not stretching is super ultra naive.In post 122, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Voting TwoFace arbitrarily looks bad to me.-
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It's when you respond/react to things in the past without catching up. In this case that exact question was asked and answered since that post but he missed it.
This one is super minor and I was mostly poking fun but when people actually do it hardcore is when it gets really ridiculous.-
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My bad, I do come off condescending a lot and I have to work on that. Wasn't intending to shut down lil or deny him a voice or something like that lol.In post 159, Tywin Lannister wrote:I also see a lot of 'your post isn't worthy, my post is!' Raskolnikov for instance making Lil Uzi apologize. Why are you backing down Lil Uzi? What exactly is wrong with you posting your running thoughts as you catch up? More posts only help garner reads. Anyone trying to shut you down without reason should be suspect.
Just the discussion on theory and basics like when to use meta being as much of a focus as it is. Was a throwaway comment not a super vital gamebreaking observationIn post 160, Tywin Lannister wrote:
How so? Explain your feelsIn post 157, Raskolnikov wrote:Man this feels like a newbie game lol.-
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@Kyouko I think you are just reading too far into it out of what looks like eagerness. I've played a bit and I hesitate making that same judgement you are (it's giving the benefit of the doubt at any rate) and even those who'd agree wouldn't go as far as to say it's obvious or clear. IMO it's giving people too much credit on both counts, on the assessment itself and given that, that people would think the same and reach your conclusion.
This part too, most people do just go willynilly if it's earlygame rvs-ish there to vote for the sake of it, and your approach/analysis here would fit more in a later-day context. IOW you're probably better questioning/wide-focus this point as you run a risk overanalysing shallow things if you go that deep this early.However, by choosing arbitrarily he implies that they are equally suspicious, or at least that they are close to the same level of suspicion.-
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What's your opinion?In post 188, Gamma Emerald wrote:
If key flips town?In post 180, TwoFace wrote:if key flips scum, keep an eye on tywin.-
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Can you be more specific?In post 227, keyenpeydee wrote:It's just much more like saying that he's scum because it's what he's doing to all players when we're scum together.-
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1. Why did you unvote twoface when you did?In post 207, PsychoticDave wrote:I caught up and still have null reads on pretty much everyone...
2. What do you mean in 63?
3. There have been several exchanges by now to judge and the keyen wagon and you don't have any comment on any of it?-
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I looked at keyen-gear game and he was pretty lynchbait there so I like gear personally saying we should treat him with kids gloves though I still think keyen's legit scummy here.
In that game with vijayanagar he did clean sweep though which feels amusing. More votes would be good at this stage I think.
As a side note, the problem with bringing out meta that early is that now keyen actually did start to be omgusy but it's invalid because it was after gear brought it up so meh.-
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Ok Gamma it's good you're sharing now, especially if you have an opinion on leading wagon voicing that.
My concern now though is you were pretty nonchalant up until I asked you and then sprung to life with the superfast iso and team judgement after I asked what you thought of keyen wagon. In other words you didn't seem interested in what was going on until you felt eyes on you.
If you think jarjar/gear are both scum off this you should look at everything they did and give more analysis on it.-
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One of the best towntells is when you scumread someone but don't explain it and then someone comes along and explains it and it's what you have. I call it mirroring and it's what looks like what jarjar experienced.
I know it's awkward looking for you guys but I buy it.-
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?In post 313, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:If not, why did you ignore his tr on you but not vijarada's?-
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Because I don't want it, and I can be pretty influential when I want to be.In post 313, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Trying to make sense of this. Raskol, why isn't jarjar being lynched? This doesn't look right-
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Everyone please, I've played with jarjar multiple times and he rubs a few people the wrong way every time with his somewhat "harsh" or judgmental-looking demeanor. I don't think he's scum here.-
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Distancing judgement this earlygame too is weak especially when you haven't done the due diligence on it either. If you think someone is scum for what looks like "shoddy distancing" you do the follow up and read the other person (gear) too in a more comprehensive way. You're not even looking to see more information from him it seems, but decided what you did incredibly fast and easily.In post 318, Gamma Emerald wrote:I've played with him before too, doesn't change the fact he feels scummy here regardless-
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Wanna cw JJD wagon?In post 321, gerryoat wrote:Jar has been asking a lot of questions and not giving answers. But, if you inspect his reads, they make sense. I can see why he's voting Key (even though I kinda disagree right now) And he also has a tr on tywin, which I can also see why he TRs tywin.-
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Idk about "unable", when you don't say something it doesn't necessarily mean you can't say it especially earlygame.
I think you misread the latter thing too, it was referring to me questioning vijagar's townread onto keyen.-
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Uhm, his argument was actually in your favour. He was defending you.In post 373, keyenpeydee wrote:I just read Gear's iso which is full of Keyen meta whatever scum yada yada on me. Seriously Gear, If you find me scummy, State some quotes, reasons or whatever which is related on the game and not on the previous game we had.-
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Maybe the meaning of the phrase doesn't translate well, the gist of it is he was saying you should be treated delicately/carefully because he saw you as an easy lynch in your last game together.-
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In post 391, Raskolnikov wrote:Keyen what do you see as the difference between twoface and jarjar that made you decide on twoface?-
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VOTE: Psychodave
There's still weirdness from keyen but I could see a lot of it coming from rvs + wagon nervousness and phone-posting (any maybe language barrier).
I kind of like 371 because it feels as though he's owning up to what was said in some way if that makes sense. Idk about the explanations but they aren't terrible, and his reads/pov at this point isn't that unreasonable either.-
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I get a newbscum feel from him for the keyen wagon comment and then not following up on it and saying everything null.
Useless is one thing but I think he's maybe not interested in the game because he rolled scum.-
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In post 301, Raskolnikov wrote:Also grey looks like an alt of someone very experienced (who I may or may not know) and sounds confident but isn't necessarily having the equivalent level of impact.-
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FTR I do think keyen is scummier than gamma emerald from what I know of gamma emerald (the admittance of half-assing reads is bold), though I expect gamma to be an easy sort over enough time anyways. IDK how this guy can be so confident at this point on him either though.-
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Uhh no offense gamma you know I love you right?
Blind sheeping anyone willynilly is bad though. And if everyone started blind sheeping like this guy is saying is ideal the game would degenerate into factions and cliques with only a few people talking and there wouldn't be much to look at. I.e. if lazy sheeping is acceptable how do you distinguish between a scum sheeping someone and a town?-
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