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[JarJarDrinks]

VOTE: Gear

for that fake-ass scumhunting

I would argue that everyone has fake ass scumhunting in RVS stage, because it's voting people and looking for reactions. So, is there a deeper reason why you think his scumhunting is fake? Is it possible that you have meta with him and his wording seems different this game?

No I think that most people in RVS don't take shit seriously. He was very serious about his "reaction-test" and treated the results of it legitimately. It was clearly not RVSing.

[JarJarDrinks]

Why am I scummy? @whoeversaidthat

If you read someone saying you were scummy, how do you not know who said it?

Yup.

This is @ least the THIRD time keyen has either demonstrated that he isn't paying attention to the game or wants people to think that he isn't:

Spoiler:

Are we out of RVS?

Yyyyyyyyyyyy

The red letters in your role pm.

No. You looked at your role pm.

VOTE: Gear

Do you think I'm scum?

Yes. Maybe.

So what does this mean?

[JarJarDrinks]

Why am I scummy? @whoeversaidthat

You sound awkward and come off pretty self-conscious, in particular you play it cool in your reaction and pretend like you aren't nervous when it feels like the complete opposite.

Good description.

The "playing it cool" is definitely the way to describe what I just mentioned about how he pretends he's not really paying attention to stuff.

[TwoFace]

yeah key is a good lynch. I get people don't want to rush things but sometimes rushing isn't so bad. Just had a game end where we lynched someone quickly and it worked in town's favor because he was scum and it helped the PRs find the other scums

[JarJarDrinks]

Aside from that little rant, can someone explain the keyan wagon with any clarity besides 'this looks contrived' or 'self-consciousness' as if it is anything other than your feels? That wagon got loaded fast without much of anything worth mentioning. I see a lot of 'I feel like this, I feel like that' without evidence to back up those feelings

Agree that there was no good reason for the original wagon. My last bunch of posts though I think point out some legit scumminess.

[TwoFace]

if key flips scum, keep an eye on tywin.

[JarJarDrinks]

Hmm. I didn't have it as a scum read at all really against Lil Uzi. Looked inconsequential, but I didn't like Rask's shut down followed by calling the game 'newbie' as an aside. It seems Rask is trying to avoid conversation here, and regardless if the question was about an older post (this game hasn't even been active long enough for that time lapse excuse), what exactly was wrong with the question to shut it down and claim 'this is so newbie' after? Rask said it was a joke, and then called it ridiculous for others to not take it that way.

I find all that to be far too defensive for little reason. Aside from defensive, it has not-so-subtle barbs littering the whole post sequence. Elitism/ego at work, or scum shutting down anything before it starts? If Rask is such a light hearted player who jokes oh so much, then why am I reading it differently than supposedly intended? Maybe the humor is forced? Otherwise, it may just be bad.

Your thoughts Rask?

I'll let rask answer but I think you're reading too much into it. I have rask as a strong townread.

[JarJarDrinks]

VOTE: Gear
Voting TwoFace arbitrarily looks bad to me. You should be able to tell that Dave's post is one of someone who is more used to a faster paced mafia environment where random speedwagons are common D1, so he shouldn't be a consideration.

Lol WTF what kind of expectations are these
Clearly, you should be able to infer from the style of his posting that he is from a faster paced environment, and in such environments speedwagons are more common, so he shouldn't be a consideration for you based on that.
Jesus christ what is this projection do you actually expect this much out of people?
Not to mention that even if true that doesn't somehow clear, it would just make the thing nullish.

It wasn't the style of his post, it was the content of his post. Anyone who would say this:

Either keyenpeydee hasn't been lynched yet because scum don't want to lynch their buddy, or people are being cautious.
One of the two, really...

is clearly is used to an environment where keyen might have actually been speedlynched for no reason. The fact that Keyen wasn't lynched is not because scum don't want to lynch their buddy or because people (town) are being cautious. It should be apparent to everyone involved that the wagon is not going to reach 7 because scum won't hammer town at that point in the game (because it gives them away) and town won't hammer anyone at that point in the game (because it gets them killed the next day). Gear should not have read that post and taken it seriously enough to consider voting Dave for it, he should have been able to tell it was a post indicating Dave's experience, not alignment.

It does make things nullish, that's the point. Gear chose between voting 2 people arbitrarily (according to him) and ended up on TwoFace. However, by choosing arbitrarily he implies that they are equally suspicious, or at least that they are close to the same level of suspicion. Since Dave's post is NAI, the choice should not be arbitrary between Dave and TwoFace. It should be a clear choice of TwoFace unless Gear thinks that TwoFace's vote was also NAI, and if TwoFace's vote was also NAI Gear should be looking someplace else for something scummier or just keep his vote on keyen since it's just random there.

Do you really think it's unreasonable to expect people to recognize what I did about Dave's post?

Yeah I think it's pretty unreasonable to expect that.

[JarJarDrinks]

I'm on my mobile at that time. Your argument on me is invalid.

seriously?

[JarJarDrinks]

if key flips scum, keep an eye on tywin.

tywin looks town to me.

[TwoFace]

I have rask as a strong townread.

for realz? idk how anyone can have a strong town read at this point in the game.

[TwoFace]

if key flips scum, keep an eye on tywin.

tywin looks town to me.

right, but if key is scum his reaction to the key wagon makes more sense from a scum buddy

[JarJarDrinks]

I have rask as a strong townread.

for realz? idk how anyone can have a strong town read at this point in the game.

cause I'm good.

[Gamma Emerald]

if key flips scum, keep an eye on tywin.

If key flips town?

[JarJarDrinks]

if key flips scum, keep an eye on tywin.

tywin looks town to me.

right, but if key is scum his reaction to the key wagon makes more sense from a scum buddy

maybe but still wouldn't scumread him based on that alone.

[keyenpeydee]

I'm on my mobile at that time. Your argument on me is invalid.

seriously?

Of course you can't confirm to yourself whether I'm telling the truth or not. But I'm telling the truth. I'm really busy right now and posting on mobile. It's my Grandpa's bday so I'm with my fam.

[JarJarDrinks]

all caught up now

VOTE: keyen


pedit: Yeah so what's the point of saying it then?

[keyenpeydee]

2F, your reads are as shit as ever. I remember you being so aggressive and ruining town.

[keyenpeydee]

lol yeah fine lynch me. go ahead.

[JarJarDrinks]

2F, your reads are as shit as ever.

remind me again. what r YOU'RE reads?

[JarJarDrinks]

I'm on my mobile at that time. Your argument on me is invalid.

seriously?

Of course you can't confirm to yourself whether I'm telling the truth or not.

So explain to me how his argument is invalid then?

[JarJarDrinks]

remind me again. what r YOU'RE reads?

man used the wrong "your" and even emphasized it.

[TwoFace]

If key flips town?

then obviously I would not keep an eye on him...

maybe but still wouldn't scumread him based on that alone.

never said I would. Also can you please not offer me advice on how to play my game. thank you

2F, your reads are as shit as ever. I remember you being so aggressive and ruining town.

uhh just going to say no comment and ignore this.

I will say that I am not even being aggressive right now.

[keyenpeydee]

2F, your reads are as shit as ever.

remind me again. what r YOU'RE reads?

Didn't I tell you that I'll be posting my reads when I have the time? My goodness.

[TwoFace]

btw key, I have 3 completed games and town won all 3 games so i am pretty certain I have not ruined any games.