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[eagerSnake]

VC 1.04

JarJarDrinks (3) [L-4]: Tywin Lannister, Gear, -Grey-
keyenpeydee (2) [L-5]: TwoFace, JarJarDrinks
Gear (2) [L-5]: keyenpeydee, ssbm_Kyouko
Gamma Emerald (1) [L-6]: Raskolnikov
gerryoat (1) [L-6]: Vijarada
Lil Uzi Vert (1) [L-6]: Gamma Emerald

Not Voting (3): gerryoat, PsychoticDave, Lil Uzi Vert

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With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch!

Current Deadline

The current deadline is 7:00PM EST Saturday, December 17, 2016, or (expired on 2016-12-17 19:00:00)

[gerryoat]

Okay, I think we're out of that dumb phase, we can start playing the game now congrats everyone

VOTE: Gerryoat

This is a bad vote because you've played with me enough to know I say this every game. Did you finally flip maf and trying to push a vote, despite knowing that this is something that I regularly say?

@Everyone: Remember when I said that meta sucks and gave reasons why? Look at this guy ^. This is a guy that knows his meta and so uses it as a defense. He clearly thought this through beforehand.

Do we all know why meta sucks now? It allows crap like this to happen.

I think you're reaching very hard. It was just something that I say every game, and something that I feel like as town he wouldn't push on. But i guess he wasn't aware of it as I thought he would be.

[gerryoat]

His vote on me is bad, but his reasoning isn't bad.

Why is his vote on you bad if the reasoning isn't?

It's bad because I'm town, but his logic shows that he's at least trying to scumhunt. Just because someone votes you doesnt mean they are mafia or making up reads. That's what I was trying to get across.

[gerryoat]

if key flips scum, keep an eye on tywin.

tywin looks town to me.

He was reaching, but I agree that I like his content so far.

[TwoFace]

Just because someone votes you doesnt mean they are mafia or making up reads.

I always seem to forget this.

[JarJarDrinks]

His vote on me is bad, but his reasoning isn't bad.

Why is his vote on you bad if the reasoning isn't?

It's bad because I'm town, but his logic shows that he's at least trying to scumhunt. Just because someone votes you doesnt mean they are mafia or making up reads. That's what I was trying to get across.

Just seems wierd to say someones vote for you is bad simply because you're town. What's the point?

Compare it to your previous post:

This is a bad vote because you've played with me enough to know I say this every game.

See that's an actual reason to call someone's vote bad.

[gerryoat]

I disagree but we can agree to disagree. The 2nd quote the reasoning is bad which is why I pushed on it. The 1st is not bad which is why I didn't.

[PsychoticDave]

I caught up and still have null reads on pretty much everyone...

[Gear]

VOTE: Gear

for that fake-ass scumhunting

There is no way that you believe that.

Vote: Jar-Jar

There's no way you believe Keyen is town for the reason you gave since what you said happened, never actually happened.

I don't think he's town, so much as I think there are better places for my vote.

I'd love to know what Varanja thought was genuine from Keyen.

[Gear]

UNVOTE: TwoFace
Meme is stale now.

This unvote is weird.

It is, indeed. One might wonder why Dave would be interested in avoiding being on a wagon.

One might surmise that it is to dodge VCA.

Do you think that is what is happening?

[JarJarDrinks]

I caught up and still have null reads on pretty much everyone...

WTF is this?

If u've actually caught up, then do you have anything to say about the people discussing you and asking you questions?

[Gear]

Voting TwoFace arbitrarily looks bad to me. You should be able to tell that Dave's post is one of someone who is more used to a faster paced mafia environment where random speedwagons are common D1, so he shouldn't be a consideration.

I don't know what to say.

[Gear]

Hmm. I didn't have it as a scum read at all really against Lil Uzi. Looked inconsequential, but I didn't like Rask's shut down followed by calling the game 'newbie' as an aside. It seems Rask is trying to avoid conversation here, and regardless if the question was about an older post (this game hasn't even been active long enough for that time lapse excuse), what exactly was wrong with the question to shut it down and claim 'this is so newbie' after? Rask said it was a joke, and then called it ridiculous for others to not take it that way.

I find all that to be far too defensive for little reason. Aside from defensive, it has not-so-subtle barbs littering the whole post sequence. Elitism/ego at work, or scum shutting down anything before it starts? If Rask is such a light hearted player who jokes oh so much, then why am I reading it differently than supposedly intended? Maybe the humor is forced? Otherwise, it may just be bad.

Your thoughts Rask?

I'll let rask answer but I think you're reading too much into it. I have rask as a strong townread.

Can you explain your rask read?

[JarJarDrinks]

Can you explain your rask read?

I agree w/ his keyen read and I like how he questioned Vijars shitty townread on him (which BTW Vijar ignored).

I also dig his questioning of Kyoukos nonsensical post about ur 2face vote.

[Gear]

Ok

[Gear]

But I think Keyenpeydee needs to be treated with kid gloves.

[Gear]

Or at least take a look at
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=67926

[TwoFace]

Or at least take a look at
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=67926

what are we supposed to be looking at?

[Gear]

Keyen

[TwoFace]

yeah I get that but what specifically is one game going to do for anyone?

[TwoFace]

I mean I already see differences between the 2 games

[JarJarDrinks]

@gear. Spell out exactly what ur saying please.

[keyenpeydee]

Spoiler: Quotes

Note that I'm quoting this as a new link so I just copied and paste it. Quotes are being randomized.

Hmm. I didn't have it as a scum read at all really against Lil Uzi. Looked inconsequential, but I didn't like Rask's shut down followed by calling the game 'newbie' as an aside. It seems Rask is trying to avoid conversation here, and regardless if the question was about an older post (this game hasn't even been active long enough for that time lapse excuse), what exactly was wrong with the question to shut it down and claim 'this is so newbie' after? Rask said it was a joke, and then called it ridiculous for others to not take it that way.

I find all that to be far too defensive for little reason. Aside from defensive, it has not-so-subtle barbs littering the whole post sequence. Elitism/ego at work, or scum shutting down anything before it starts? If Rask is such a light hearted player who jokes oh so much, then why am I reading it differently than supposedly intended? Maybe the humor is forced? Otherwise, it may just be bad.

Your thoughts Rask?

Accurate.

Why am I scummy? @whoeversaidthat

You sound awkward and come off pretty self-conscious, in particular you play it cool in your reaction and pretend like you aren't nervous when it feels like the complete opposite.

You have any thoughts on the game so far?

My thoughts on the game are being unrealistic. Everybody seems normal to me although I find Gear, 2F and JarJar sketchy. Oh yeah post 154 is not a good response but what I agree with.

Why am I scummy? @whoeversaidthat

If you read someone saying you were scummy, how do you not know who said it?

What did you hope to accomplish with that question?

It looks like forced to me. I mean it's not like it's been 20 pages, it's been 6. He could have asked directly, but instead it looked like he was trying to avoid direct confrontation with someone

It's not. Look, I woke up at that time, trying to read the unread posts. Just finished it and too lazy to where I read that. But see, I've quoted it. Is there still a problem with that? And if I'm avoiding confrontation with someone, then I shouldn't be playing mafia after all.

I've played with Keyen before, I was scum, and had a front row seat to him OMGUSing everyone who suspected him (among other things, but that's what's relevant here). I saw that from him here, and it's good enough for me for now. Now, I am voting someone new.

But he hasn't omgused everyone voting him.

You expecting me to do that?

Yyyyyyyyyyyy

The red letters in your role pm.

No. You looked at your role pm.

VOTE: Gear

Do you think I'm scum?

Yes. Maybe.

Non sense. Do you expect me to say your town when you've actually did is to act, not scummy, but not that townish?

I think Keyen is town. He seems pretty genuine right now. I also concur with JJD in that Gear's reasoning was pretty garbage, but I don't think garbage reasoning is a scum-tell.

I think you're scum because I read you as like my scum partner on that newbie game.

I actually think keyen could be scum here

agree

Why?

.
Keyen - why so concerned about whether or not we're in RVS?

So I know if I'll post another shit posts.

All in All here's my reads:

Town:
Lannister

NullTown or just unsure reads:
All that isn't mentioned.

Leaning Town:
Gamma
Vijarada
Ssbm

NullScum:
Dave
TwoFace
Rasko

Leaning Scum:
Gear
JarJar

[keyenpeydee]

That quote on Vijarada is not serious btw.

[keyenpeydee]

But I think Keyenpeydee needs to be treated with kid gloves.

Shut up. And what's this post's connectivity on you trying to make me look scum?