1) Creeps distrust of the masons seems scummy, and if he lives to LyLo, based on his current behavior, he's a definite liability
2) Math had a strange switch off of Creeps that makes me think they're scumbuddies
Why do you think that Creeps distrusting masons is scummy when there's no way in hell that he's actually getting us lynched? Your signature is about you getting paranoid of conftown and someone reading you as town as a result so I don't think it's unreasonable for me to expect you to understand why scum probably wouldn't push the mason pair here.
Why do you think that Mathblade is scum?
"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
-- Fate, Vanilla Townie, was brutally stabbed by a throwing sword in endgame.
In post 949, Joshz wrote:he constantly goes for easy pushes. the first thing he does itg is go for tvd. when that doesnt pan out, he goes for eric, the ubernoob. he gets off eventually, but like, eric was obvtown to me, though clearly im biased knowing he was townie. there are only scum reasons to push a supernoob like that, as opposed to a noob of my level who is at least competent. more importantly, literally every post of his was contentless and empty. he did not start any GOOD discussons, or join in in any. #175 is also p bad, the only game ive completed on this site scum delegated to things such as 'x is scum and bonus points who tells me why', aka tricking people into subconsciously analyzing scummy traits of a person and ignoring their actual stance. twiszted was super scummy and nothing has changed my view on that.
This approach makes sense, I'll look out for it.
I think that House is a player that occasionally misses things that most people pick up on (aka Eric's ubertowniness), so the tell is lessened somewhat but I agree that some of his early approaches look pretty terrible; right now, I'm reading through his early approach to Gamma and I don't really like what he's scumreading Gamma for (assuming and wording, neither of which are scumtells in any sense of the word).
"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
-- Fate, Vanilla Townie, was brutally stabbed by a throwing sword in endgame.
1) Creeps distrust of the masons seems scummy, and if he lives to LyLo, based on his current behavior, he's a definite liability
2) Math had a strange switch off of Creeps that makes me think they're scumbuddies
Why do you think that Creeps distrusting masons is scummy when there's no way in hell that he's actually getting us lynched? Your signature is about you getting paranoid of conftown and someone reading you as town as a result so I don't think it's unreasonable for me to expect you to understand why scum probably wouldn't push the mason pair here.
Why do you think that Mathblade is scum?
My signature happened because the town JK told me to give scumreads that didn't have him and the 1-shot BP in it and I freaked thinking it was an attempt to subvert scumreads on him, when there was no CC to the BPs claim before
He's just "I don't believe you".
Math seems scum because when he reread he had less reads than before.
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“A flipped coin doesn't always land heads or tails. Sometimes it may never land at all...”
In post 107, TwiszTed wrote:Then you should preface your post with the fact it's an interpretation and not "what he meant".
This attack is entirely semantics; not exactly something that I like as a general rule since most people seem to be intelligent enough to realize that the exact words that a person uses doesn't exactly mean that much.
In post 114, TwiszTed wrote:So now you're making assumptions, as well as speaking for others.
This attack experiences a similar "obvious this isn't what's happening" type of thing. I think it's completely possible that House was trying to trip up Gamma at this point; it certainly doesn't seem like they're scumpartners based on House's approach here.
Reading through the chat and based on my gut, I have a feeling its Uzi ... Although I have no evidence to support it ...
These couple of posts in tandem are pretty awkward; the "best bet for me" seems like he meant something different than the explanation he ended up offering.
In post 130, Eric Rasputin wrote:Now, you're coming off as scummy lol ... There is a high probability that you're not scum ... The mod seems to make all the new players(as in the ones who started their account in Nov) all VT ... So, I dont think you're scum ...
This, however, ends up blowing that out of the water completely; this is a fairly common town slip from offsite since a lot of sites don't rand who is scum and who is town and Eric on a scumteam would know that the moderator didn't rand everyone to be VT since he himself wasn't scum.
In post 140, Eric Rasputin wrote:Just because ... Sometimes you dont need a reason .. All my posts have a meaning and it helps me and not the team ... I am not a very good team player because my style is completely different from the others .... My job is to make my alignment win ... I'll do that even if I have to deceive my own alignment ... And I'm out .. Hope the KP comes soon
I liked this response to House; at the moment, don't really have anything more sophisticated than "seems genuine" but he's forming up to be a fairly strong early townread anyways.
"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
-- Fate, Vanilla Townie, was brutally stabbed by a throwing sword in endgame.
In post 949, Joshz wrote:he constantly goes for easy pushes. the first thing he does itg is go for tvd. when that doesnt pan out, he goes for eric, the ubernoob. he gets off eventually, but like, eric was obvtown to me, though clearly im biased knowing he was townie. there are only scum reasons to push a supernoob like that, as opposed to a noob of my level who is at least competent. more importantly, literally every post of his was contentless and empty. he did not start any GOOD discussons, or join in in any. #175 is also p bad, the only game ive completed on this site scum delegated to things such as 'x is scum and bonus points who tells me why', aka tricking people into subconsciously analyzing scummy traits of a person and ignoring their actual stance. twiszted was super scummy and nothing has changed my view on that.
This approach makes sense, I'll look out for it.
I think that House is a player that occasionally misses things that most people pick up on (aka Eric's ubertowniness), so the tell is lessened somewhat but I agree that some of his early approaches look pretty terrible; right now, I'm reading through his early approach to Gamma and I don't really like what he's scumreading Gamma for (assuming and wording, neither of which are scumtells in any sense of the word).
Me and House don't get along well
First game he tunneled me for parts of Days 1, 2, and 3, wavering his read so he could guage my alignment
Second game I had a read discrepancy he attacked me on, but he was scum so EH
<Embrace The Void>
“A flipped coin doesn't always land heads or tails. Sometimes it may never land at all...”
In post 949, Joshz wrote:he constantly goes for easy pushes. the first thing he does itg is go for tvd. when that doesnt pan out, he goes for eric, the ubernoob. he gets off eventually, but like, eric was obvtown to me, though clearly im biased knowing he was townie. there are only scum reasons to push a supernoob like that, as opposed to a noob of my level who is at least competent. more importantly, literally every post of his was contentless and empty. he did not start any GOOD discussons, or join in in any. #175 is also p bad, the only game ive completed on this site scum delegated to things such as 'x is scum and bonus points who tells me why', aka tricking people into subconsciously analyzing scummy traits of a person and ignoring their actual stance. twiszted was super scummy and nothing has changed my view on that.
This approach makes sense, I'll look out for it.
I think that House is a player that occasionally misses things that most people pick up on (aka Eric's ubertowniness), so the tell is lessened somewhat but I agree that some of his early approaches look pretty terrible; right now, I'm reading through his early approach to Gamma and I don't really like what he's scumreading Gamma for (assuming and wording, neither of which are scumtells in any sense of the word).
Me and House don't get along well
First game he tunneled me for parts of Days 1, 2, and 3, wavering his read so he could guage my alignment
Second game I had a read discrepancy he attacked me on, but he was scum so EH
I don't mind that he was pushing; I mind how he pushed.
I don't really think that he thought that it was scummy that you gave an interpretation of how someone was thinking because you didn't say "this is an interpretation" first.
"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
-- Fate, Vanilla Townie, was brutally stabbed by a throwing sword in endgame.
Gamma isn't his town self. In the scum game I was recently in 1841 he was a lot different.
He pushed for mason partner immediately and for many claims IMHO way too early. He has done blatant terribad fishing and it just isn't right.
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
Gamma isn't his town self. In the scum game I was recently in 1841 he was a lot different.
He pushed for mason partner immediately and for many claims IMHO way too early. He has done blatant terribad fishing and it just isn't right.
Unfortunately, I'm not really too familiar with Gamma and currently have enough reading to do where I'm unable to take on anymore, so telling me that he's playing differently isn't particularly helpful; do you have any specifics?
I agree that he pushed for the mason partners to claim too early, but don't think that's strong enough on its own for me to want to push a lynch through on it.
"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
-- Fate, Vanilla Townie, was brutally stabbed by a throwing sword in endgame.
Gamma isn't his town self. In the scum game I was recently in 1841 he was a lot different.
He pushed for mason partner immediately and for many claims IMHO way too early. He has done blatant terribad fishing and it just isn't right.
Unfortunately, I'm not really too familiar with Gamma and currently have enough reading to do where I'm unable to take on anymore, so telling me that he's playing differently isn't particularly helpful; do you have any specifics?
I agree that he pushed for the mason partners to claim too early, but don't think that's strong enough on its own for me to want to push a lynch through on it.
You DID play with scum!me for a bit once
<Embrace The Void>
“A flipped coin doesn't always land heads or tails. Sometimes it may never land at all...”
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
It doesn't feel like he really believes in his paranoia
Seems pretty weak, especially if this is the big case for your preferred lynch.
Do you disagree?
There's also Math's 60-0 read change on Creeps
Rereading. It is a thing.
And my pronoun is their. Please use it.
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
ScumBlade's eloquent performance left me utterly disoriented, debased, depraved and sent me spiraling into a horrific murky abyss with emotional turmoil and immense despair as my only companions until slowly I suffocate in my own gloom, surrounded by failure. I will never recover. -- Zachstralkita about Mini 1841 GTKAS -- MathBlade
Which is also weak. It's day 1, so it's pretty unlikely that we managed to catch two scum immediately, I don't have a particularly strong scumread on Mathblade in the first place, and it's not like read changes are strong indicators of partnerships.
"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
-- Fate, Vanilla Townie, was brutally stabbed by a throwing sword in endgame.
.. All my posts have a meaning and it helps me and not the team ... I am not a very good team player because my style is completely different from the others .... My job is to make my alignment win ... I'll do that even if I have to deceive my own alignment ... And I'm out .. Hope the KP comes soon