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Post Post #7700 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 7:14 am

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i would have preferred a response to my talk with Yoshi, if you think he's town. where am i wrong, and such.

that said, i'm pretty sure you're town from this. i don't get any sense you don't believe what you're saying.

are you able to hammer?
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Post Post #7701 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 7:14 am

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I am not Titus nor am I wisdom.

If you want to use meta use mine.

There are also Town games where Town players took leadership and saved it.
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Post Post #7702 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 7:16 am

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In post 7698, Not Chara wrote:why does it feel like everyone posting just ignores the conversations that don't directly involve them?
Because that requires hunting.

Scum want me gone.

They can't kill me.
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Post Post #7703 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 7:18 am

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Math, do you have anything to add to conversations that aren't about your alignment? something to do with Yoshi, since i've been talking about that and you scumread him?

pedit: what an amazing way to make a general question involving several players about just you. :>
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Post Post #7704 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 7:20 am

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It is the truth.

Regarding Yoshi Not while I am at work. My notes are at home.
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Post Post #7705 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 7:21 am

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and how to reconcile that answer with your read on me?
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Post Post #7706 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 7:23 am

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I looked through your conversation with Yoshi and I'm not seeing his responses lean towards one alignment or the other.
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Post Post #7707 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 7:24 am

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Buddying scum or PoE at the end is wrong somewhere.
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Post Post #7708 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 7:24 am

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In post 7701, MathBlade wrote:I am not Titus nor am I wisdom.

If you want to use meta use mine.

There are also Town games where Town players took leadership and saved it.
I've seen town take over a game and singlehandedly win through good reads far more often than with trying to solve the setup.
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Post Post #7709 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 7:26 am

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And I play primarily theme games, where setups are more easily solved than normal games.
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Post Post #7710 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 7:27 am

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That doesn't mean the latter of solving setup doesn't catch scum.
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Post Post #7711 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 7:30 am

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Because that has worked out amazingly for us so far, right?

We straight up don't have the information to break the setup by setup spec. Trying to do so and basing the entire game on that is ridiculous.
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Post Post #7712 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 7:42 am

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In post 7695, Not Chara wrote:right. i answered you there. completely. i don't remember you asking for more, and there was literally no reason to move further with unfounded speculation.

later, all of that spec did matter because it had a lot to do with how i was viewing Andrius's blatant Frisk flavour-tells, which ended up being false. and SlySly's penchant for hammering ended up being unrelated to his role as well, so following that line of logic and suspecting SlySly for it would have gotten us nowhere.

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In post 3295, PeregrineV wrote:@flavor players- is 1000 years related to a role or the game somehow?
After that, I just wait for you to post something that swings me to read you as town. That, also, has not happened.

So, you may be a low-level scumread for me, but as I pointed out, you haven't fixed it.
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Post Post #7713 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 7:49 am

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In post 3305, SnarkySnowman wrote:
In post 3295, PeregrineV wrote:@flavor players- is 1000 years related to a role or the game somehow?
There are flavor references but nothing strong - just tiny details.
my answer is 'Snarky already answered'. you never followed up with this question, so i'm surprised it mattered to you.

i'm a low-level scumread? from your voting patterns, i'd say that makes me your only scumread, if you don't have anyone else you scumread enough to vote.
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Post Post #7714 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 7:53 am

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In post 7713, Not Chara wrote:
In post 3305, SnarkySnowman wrote:
In post 3295, PeregrineV wrote:@flavor players- is 1000 years related to a role or the game somehow?
There are flavor references but nothing strong - just tiny details.
my answer is 'Snarky already answered'. you never followed up with this question, so i'm surprised it mattered to you.

i'm a low-level scumread? from your voting patterns, i'd say that makes me your only scumread, if you don't have anyone else you scumread enough to vote.
I did, but they all died and flipped town.

I could continue to scumread them, but that's dumb.

And that doesn't change the rest of what I said.
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Post Post #7715 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 7:56 am

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i addressed the rest of what you said.

all of your scumreads died and flipped town.. so that leaves your one minor scumread who didn't flavour-game the setup to your liking as probable scum, of course.
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Post Post #7716 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 8:07 am

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In post 7260, Maxous wrote:N1 - Shiro
N2 - Nahdia
N3 - Not Chara
N4 - Sir Cakez

they're my real targets, I tried blocking Cakez because I thoguht he might be a 'surprise scum'. I would of admitted it but Nahdia says she jailkept me which put me in trouble and I had to lie about it.
Maxous, what does Nahdia blocking you have to do with whether you checked Cakez or Creature? if you were blocked, the result would be the same regardless of who you targeted. am i missing something relevant to this?
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Post Post #7717 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 8:13 am

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In post 7715, Not Chara wrote:i addressed the rest of what you said.

all of your scumreads died and flipped town.. so that leaves your one minor scumread who didn't flavour-game the setup to your liking as probable scum, of course.

It's a start. 5 scum left in 13 players, almost half.
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Post Post #7718 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 8:28 am

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Giovanni being town puts scum absolutely in: MathBlade, Peregrine, Accountant, BigYoshiFan, assuming i'm correct with townreads on Ankamius and Almost, and Shiro was right to call Cakez town.

Creeps scum means Narna scum, Giovanni scum follows. is that all correct?
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Post Post #7719 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 8:32 am

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Pine should be in the first list too. but i don't know, i really think Andrius was town.
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Post Post #7720 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 8:35 am

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In post 7443, MathBlade wrote:And which reads do you think I am right and wrong on?
Math, i must have missed this question. by now it should be obvious where we don't agree, though.
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Post Post #7721 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 8:36 am

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I'd be shocked if Andrius was scum solely by the way he interacted with me.
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Post Post #7722 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 8:38 am

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Andrius and I have enough history to make it clear that brazenly trying to get me involved into the game when he has precedent of not directly attempting to do so as town would be a heavily ballsy move that I don't see him attempting lightly. The pieces don't fit well enough to where I can see it happening.
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Post Post #7723 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 8:39 am

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Giovanni town + the chain of confirmed town from that leaves me with a scumteam that doesn't feel right at all.

Adding Yoshi to the scumlist provided by scum Creeps feels better, but also feels improbable. even though i'm pretty sure i had the theory that scum really were all trying to confirm themselves.

pedit: i obviously don't know anything about that, but i don't see Andrius's behaviour pre-replace as coming from scum. hell, even when i was thinking he was third-party, i never thought he was groupscum.
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Post Post #7724 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 8:40 am

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no, no, that's wrong. Giovanni town leaves me with a scumteam that actually feels quite plausible, but includes some players i'm minorly townreading + Andrius/Pine.
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