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Post Post #950 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 6:22 pm

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There's even more to your role?

I'd be lying if I said that wasn't a tough pill to swallow, but I feel like I'm saying that about every claim so far.

I'm going to sleep on this.
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Post Post #951 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 6:23 pm

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In post 904, DiamondSentinel wrote:
Actions locked, actions will be resolved and the Day 3 will start momentarily.

Additionally, kraska failed to send a PM over the night, so she will be prodded. This will be her first on Day 3 and second overall.
.......seriously?
U shouldn't have announced that in thread
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Post Post #952 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 6:26 pm

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In post 942, Socrates wrote:I'm a one-shot commuter with a drawback, just like Kraska. This is why I was going all hubba-wubba at her claim, but I re-examined her play, liked what I saw, saw how she had the exact same reaction to Uzi's claim as I did, and then looked at just how our roles aligned and thought 'this HAS to be a red herring'.
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Can scum even kill/target anyone this game?
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Post Post #953 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 6:36 pm

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Ok zero shits given about balance and roles as of now
Unless pisskop is a godfather then spyrex probably scum but I really liked spyrex's early posting in thread. I don't know.

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Post Post #954 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 6:38 pm

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In post 950, Socrates wrote:There's even more to your role?
No.. that's all of it.

The robot-upgrade thing is entirely separate.
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Post Post #955 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 6:40 pm

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That and I townread everyone else more strongly
Lld I'm not really sure about....but I feel she's disengaged town

If it's between spyrex and pisskop I really don't wanna discount the possibility that pisskop might be godfather.....bc spyrex's posting day 1 was really town
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Post Post #956 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 8:18 pm

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Kraksa i liked miller but im getting paranoid about this setup can you compile the claims tia
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Post Post #957 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 8:51 pm

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It's pretty fucked up. The setup.
But flavoriffic! I just read my whole 'Virtual Companion' arc. It's dope.
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Post Post #958 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 9:14 pm

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@ds
If a poisoner targets a commuter on night 1, and commuter commutes night 2... what happens?
If a poisoner targets a commuter on night 1, and commuter commutes night 1... what happens?
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Post Post #959 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 9:23 pm

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Me: Miller, 1 shot commuter
Socrates: "1 shot commuter with a drawback"
moi: Socrates said moi claimed bp but I dodnt look for the post
Lld: neighbourizer
Dunn: robot upgrader

Robots:
Camn: "modified Neighborizing Hider who gets treestumped instead of dying if I choose scum"
Spyrex:
Pisskop:
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Post Post #960 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 9:28 pm

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In post 914, MagnaofIllusion wrote: And looking at Jae’s posting day two regarding how LUV and Dunn conflicted I think it is entirely possible that unless scum have a RoleCop that is why Jae may be dead.
Jaes dead because obvious cop softs
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Post Post #961 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 9:38 pm

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In post 918, Socrates wrote:The hammer on a lie that was contradicting your stated role is the only thing you have going FOR you, Magna, since he WAS lying. It's everything else surrounding the hammer that makes me go HMMMMM.
Yes this
The main divide between moi's probing yesterday and everyone else's was that moi's posts sounded like hes laying the groundwork for justifying the vote post townflip....whereas everyone else seemed to be actually engaging luv, asking questions and then pulling back a bit

Also you being bulletproof doesn't mean much when mine and Socrates claims where also at odds with what luv was claiming. I still find your push on luv more akin to mudslinging than trying to make sense of the setup
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Post Post #962 (ISO) » Thu Dec 08, 2016 9:43 pm

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I looked at lld's iso and while it's lacking in content, I don't see any manipulation there....
All her posts seem pretty frank and straighforward I think this is just disnterested town
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Post Post #963 (ISO) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 2:36 am

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In post 958, kraska77 wrote:
@ds
If a poisoner targets a commuter on night 1, and commuter commutes night 2... what happens?
If a poisoner targets a commuter on night 1, and commuter commutes night 1... what happens?
A poisoner works in this game exactly like a normal one does.
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Post Post #964 (ISO) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 5:23 am

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MOD – I will be V/LA starting at 3pm EDT today until Monday morning as normal. Also activity today may be spotty as I have some unforeseen complications to my regular schedule.


Given my activity restrictions today my Camn case presentation will have to wait until Monday at the earliest.

Now that we’ve had more WTF claim contradictions I’m moving pisskop from Confirmed Town to Town. If even half the claims on the table are correct then a Godfather is an absolute possibility and thus a Cop Innocent is not 100%.

And let’s talk about the claims. Flipped Roles

Aristo (Beatrice) – Basically a Goon with alternate kill method and vote restrictions.
Nacho (Veronice) – 1 Shot Sensor
LUV (John) – 2 Shot Inventor (1 each of 1Shot BP, 1ShotRB, 2Day Kill preventor) and Ascetic
Jae (Dora) – Cop

Then we have the following claims

MoI – Full BP
LLD – Neighborizor (claims multiple targets, each last 1 Day and Night cycle)
Kraska – 1 Shot Commuter Miller
Socrates – 1 Shot Commuter with some drawback
Camn – 1Shot Neighborizing Modified Hider
Dunn – Very vague Robot Upgrader

I’m having a hard time buying camn’s claim as stated. Firstly the logic of “scum would choose to tree-stump me” falls majorly flat since it is effectively a guilty in her logic and would make her able to report said guilty. On top of a full Cop and a 1-Shot Sensor that seems pretty questionable. Also “It’s 1 Shot and I’ve failed to use it twice but now it’s gone” seems pretty weak.

@Camn
– who did you try to Neighborize each Night?

@Socrates
– why didn’t you claim your drawback Day 1?

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In post 930, Socrates wrote:But you ARE implying that I'm stupid for voting you in a very backhanded way.
No, not really. I’m flat out stating that your reasoning for claiming my hammer was bad (discussing the question about 3rd party possibilities and the Mod not confirming or denying) are pretty nonsensical given the actualities of the game-state. That’s NAI as having bad reasoning isn’t solely a Town or Scum trait.

Did you actually read the Mod snippet I posted? I asked him to confirm that the language as written was meant to signify only two alignments (as it does as stated) or if he meant it to mean “at least two alignments” which would allow for 3rd parties. Given he refused to comment left the option open for 3rd party roles.
In post 942, Socrates wrote:Considering Magna's description of their interactions, I might be willing to believe that LLD is the odd one out, but how does neighborizer fit with you supposedly being an upgrade-able robot?
Why, if you think I’m scum, do you believe anything I said about the PT without my flip?
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Post Post #965 (ISO) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:57 am

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You need more votes if you want a full claim from me.
My claim is an unrovoked counterclaim. If you think I made it up... that is interesting.
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Post Post #966 (ISO) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 3:41 pm

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Also, this mod is intentionally noncommittal.
His failure to deny a 3rd party doesn't prove..or even suggest..their existence.
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Post Post #967 (ISO) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 6:22 pm

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Actually I'm pondering something. I think i prefer tomorrow but something about the setup just clicked. Remind me about this.
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Post Post #968 (ISO) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 8:19 pm

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I've also got thoughts but I'll go after spyrex
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Post Post #969 (ISO) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 8:44 pm

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At least one Robot is scum, almost certainly.
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Post Post #970 (ISO) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 9:26 pm

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I would think that too... But everything seems wrong.
We are failing with our setup speculation.
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Post Post #971 (ISO) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 9:41 pm

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So you don't think there is at least 1 scum robot? ^
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Post Post #972 (ISO) » Fri Dec 09, 2016 9:54 pm

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In post 972, Dunnstral wrote:So you don't think there is at least 1 scum robot? ^
It's because she is the scum robot.
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Post Post #973 (ISO) » Sat Dec 10, 2016 4:26 am

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I totally think there is...it's why I'm voting Spyrex .
But my confidence is low right now.
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Post Post #974 (ISO) » Sat Dec 10, 2016 6:19 am

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Vote Count 3.1
MagnaofIllusion [2]Socrates, Kraska77
Camn [3]MagnaofIllusion, Lady Lambdadelta, SpyreX
SpyreX [1]Camn
Dunnstral [1]Pisskop
Not Voting [1]Dunnstral



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