(Mini 1858) Aeronaut's Drunken Christmas Party (Game Over!)

[CloudKicker]

Hi, i dont think i have played with anyone on this table yet

[CloudKicker]

Hey nvm what i said, hi grey

[CloudKicker]

I would just like to state that despite if i ever mention im not player optimally, its just wifom and im actually playing optimally ty

[CloudKicker]

As of page 6, i townread creep/sicknpiss/dreamlz

[CloudKicker]

page 11 snorlax + algebra town, sicknpissed drop a tiny bit, i also think that 1SVT should be town and the current page 11 wagon on pissed looks like 4 town compared to the wagon on dreamlz

[CloudKicker]

Hi grey, good idea to unvote i havent even read up to rn UNVOTE:

[CloudKicker]

up to page 16

Nonsense.

The algebra wagon is stupid. It has no real basis. The only good reason would be the self-vote, and we're all doing silly things in jest in this thread. That's part of why you're so off-putting, because you're throwing out crappy attacks a mile a minute instead of being methodical.

And what the fuck game are you talking about where we played together? I don't recall any significant interaction between us.

i liked this post, i this it goes well with my reads and the tone is on point, tho the sicknpiss vote i could see as a counterwagon to shadow

Had a sick wife and two sick kids yesterday, catching up now.

In the meantime,
UNVOTE:

The game was stalled, and that vote was meant to get it going again which it seems to have done.

Sounds heartless but this is a textbook scumpost

[CloudKicker]

Yea i think creeps is town, pine towntold in the recent pages too, that or hes massively chainsawing the fuck out of those lynches d1

VOTE: shawdow

I think u good portion of town towntold and shawdow didnt, his post are exactly like zach said, plastic and just not town imo

[CloudKicker]

I would also say that my hardest townread is snorlax

[CloudKicker]

Again, grey with decent reads +1

[CloudKicker]

By decent i mean better than average for sure

[CloudKicker]

creeps #106 it doesn't look contrived to me, pine

I'm feeling it too as he is

I like to vote no-lynch at times while ppl RVS because I don't like RVS, just to get reactions and generate reads and discussion, and I think it is stupid that ppl treat it as anything other than an RVS vote when done during RVS, and those who do, I tend to SR as looking for reasons to form a wagon that is easy to hop on - not automatically, but it is something I look at and then judge which way it is

fooey to those who have an RVS double-standard "you can do anything vote anything but if you vote no-lynch or EVEN MAYBE TALK ABOUT IT OMG" - nonono

@pine i thought dreamlz was towny until page 6, where i actually started townreading him. Creep outed a read on someone that got criticized, but then dreamlz came back and defended creep in a totallytown way imo. I already townread creep because i had a mirroring tell, then 1 page after i got the same exact tell on dreamlz, about creep's read. that mean that creep, dreamlz and i all felt the same thing, at the same time in about the same way and dreamz going out of his way to defend creep (whos was fosed) with a mirror tell is just a really strong towntell for me, hence why creep/dreamz are town to me. I also think that snorlax is town for a huge amount of great posts, but from both his heads. Its my first time player ever with hydra ingame but i assume that when you townread both an hydra's head, you prob not wrong

[CloudKicker]

The wording of dreamlz about creep's read is 100% genuine, as either scum or town i would guarantee that he shared creep's read

[CloudKicker]

Another mirror tell i got was my slot which is funny, about algebra post about using a word-trigger, thats also when i started town leaning algebra

[CloudKicker]

Again, grey with decent reads +1

Why would you say I have decent reads when I'm voting your townread?

I just liked and followed your train of thoughts even if we didnt arrived at the same conclusion p much

[CloudKicker]

And i explained my tr on dreamlz, its not like i expect ppl to easily tr such a guy anyway

[CloudKicker]

Another mirror tell i got was my slot which is funny, about algebra post about using a word-trigger, thats also when i started town leaning algebra

You have opposing reads on Algebra, so how exactly is it a mirror tell?

The mirror tell i was referencing in that post was about my slot. Then, algebra towntold about it imo something my my Mcmennon didnt agree. The algerabra read isnt a mirror tell

[CloudKicker]

A drealmerz flip will also be informative on CloudKicker and Snorlax slot.

As long as you dont use mental gymnastis to somehow throw shade at me if he even flips town. If he flips scum ill own up to it

[CloudKicker]

Also btw those 3-4 posts were 2-3 pages ago before i saw the grey strongarming the lynch, imo dreal is a ml and shadow just scumtold in his recent post, again and hes not a low-informative lynch. Snorlax is still town. I suggest everyone stop being a fucking pussy and let themselved get strongarmed on an obvious ml candidate aka the rp player whos just trolling. My read on him isnt even a hard townread, the flip tho is really indicative and im lynching shadow this game anyway so stay on him ty

[CloudKicker]

Grey, i told you why i townread him, i dont want him lynched because i want shadow lynched, this is all pretty simple

[CloudKicker]

lol, not really but okay

[CloudKicker]

Also the strong associatives is really funny, i just said i got a mirroring tell on the guy and that its a strong towntell for me, i didnt even discuss his content or his pushes yet you strongly believe we are the same alignement. I wonder if you will keep that read when he flips town

[CloudKicker]

lol grey dont you see that the flip is really telling

[CloudKicker]

Youre implying town will have a townread and town would try to advance the game

[CloudKicker]

Im not going to defend that idea but i dont think its that AI, on em is isnt

[CloudKicker]

Implying outing a tr and trying to advance the game is the only way to play for your wincon. Just towntelling is playing for your wincon yknow, when town defends you when ppl try to strongarm the lynches on them

[CloudKicker]

Lol then we disagree, there isnt a shadow of insumountable evidence againts him, all your saiyng hes that hes scum for messing around which is a bullshit case bro

[CloudKicker]

Your case is hes rping and not outing reads/helping town advance, isnt that correct? also that his vote were bad or something

[CloudKicker]

Thats not what i call insurmountable evidence and its easier for scum to out trs than srs or to slapfight like you said ppl agreeing with you are mefia grey if youre not

[CloudKicker]

To deny information or not to produce content isnt the same, boy-o

[CloudKicker]

That being said, the algebra vote was indeed bad lel and i could see mefia pushing a policy lynch

[CloudKicker]

You still think im mefia with that dude, dont you

[CloudKicker]

And what if he flips town, will you say that i chainsawed him because my reason to tr him is not good enough compared to what he did ? therefore only mafia could know that he was town. Will you try to push that idea or not

[CloudKicker]

Or will you actually own up and learn from the lynch

[CloudKicker]

And what if he flips town, will you say that i chainsawed him because my reason to tr him is not good enough compared to what he did ? therefore only mafia could know that he was town. Will you try to push that idea or not

If he flips town, then my reads are obviously shit and I'll shut the fuck up and let somebody else drive.

As it stands, this wagon is the only one that is based on a case that goes beyond superficial reasoning.

Thats a bit rough. When im town and i have a strong read and the read flips, i tend to not only blame myself but also the other guy for scumtelling and such. I wouldnt call my reads outright ''obviously shit'' just because i missed. A pro-town answer would look like:

"If he flip town, then he better learn to not rp and actually help the game state because he did nothing to blbablabla''

[CloudKicker]

lol sometimes the case is correct but the flip isnt yknow

[CloudKicker]

Whats your reads on snorlax/creep/pine?

[CloudKicker]

im drinking rn if anyone wanna join me

[CloudKicker]

Yea i think dreal is town but i understand he can comes of as scummy, i just dont see him as top lynch atm

[CloudKicker]

14.5 is a barley wine, not a beer bro lol

[CloudKicker]

Whats the beer ? im curious, i used to drink strong ass belgian beer

[CloudKicker]

Thinker whats your reads ?

[CloudKicker]

Grey also please just vote for shadow, hes a really greater lynch imo

[CloudKicker]

Grey its never silly to lynch mefia

[CloudKicker]

Hello zach what you doin

[CloudKicker]

Im watching the most obviousl mls in the history of my short journey on mafiascum and drinking an apple bear, cheers ppl

[CloudKicker]

I would just like to state that despite if i ever mention im not player optimally, its just wifom and im actually playing optimally ty

lynch this guy ASAP

lol, its a reference to another game, its not game related

[CloudKicker]

I'm good with a shaddowez lynch.

VOTE: shaddowez

LOL YOU FUCKER

[CloudKicker]

That's an easy thing to say tho because it looks like you're judging it at face value. it depends on the merit and content of the argument.


With how hard -Grey- pushed dreal I don't think he'd suddenly half-ass it in the last stretch if he were faking it. I don't think Grey's faking it.

GREAT POST

Someone lolhammer shaddow

GREAT POST

get an avatar

EVEN GREATER POST

Let me rephrase: which scenario do you find more likely out of (scum!Grey, town!dreal) or (scum!Grey, scum!dreal)?

I feel the latter is more likely. If Grey is scum then the most plausible explanation for his behavior is a hard-distancing attempt that got out of hand when he made his case too well, and left him looking for an excuse to change wagons.

Why can't they both be town again?

dreal - please continue rping fuck everyone else

GREAT POST

get an avatar

I am asked this a lot.
The answer is no

BAD POST

why is shaddow scum again?

He's not, he's just bad town.

Unfortunately, he's the only viable counterwagon.

SCUM POST DETECTED

[CloudKicker]

Who did grey replace again

[CloudKicker]

@piss nah i replaced the doggy

VOTE: Jackel

What is up with this empty vote?

VOTE: algebra

And you can call me deer those who feel my name is long

Vote Dave

RV or SV?

And you can call me deer those who feel my name is long

But can we call you dear?

Nope.

Hey what's up guys

VOTE: shaddowez

Nobody likes that guy, this is a good place for a vote.

Deer

- is your question in 73 serious, or were you just using it for RVS?

Random Vote.

VOTE: Jackel

What is up with this empty vote?

VOTE: algebra

And you can call me deer those who feel my name is long

It was a random vote, since we are in Random Voting Stage.

Same was mine. I know its a RVing stage.

I agree that Creeps is bad at finding scum.
He's also an easy mis lynch for scum to push on. Go on Piss, try to the push.

I actually agree with this. He's always scummy. he Scummy town, to be honest.


Can we actually move into the game now? It's 6 pages already

@Host: V/LA till December 9

VOTE: grey
lets go. Grey just outed that shadow was town when all his prior defense was the lack of case, not that he was town, hes saying that because hes chainsawing yolo. Shadow was scummy but superficially, i agree. Grey is scummy for behaviors + his prior slot's posting

[CloudKicker]

I am going to townblock anyone who is 2nd on his wagon if he flips scum

[CloudKicker]

lel bro, im okay lynching you for the 180 flip

[CloudKicker]

oh true grey said he was town, thats sad i still want the lulwagon since its entertaining

[CloudKicker]

LOL SHADOW ? are you fucking serious, i had l-1 on dreal for like 2 pages and i was arguing that dreal was obv town, you pushed on him and now you believe that i am mafia and that i tried to chainsaw it ? That would be believable if you only said im scum, but with shadow ? that makes 0 sens and this is borderline scumclaiming

[CloudKicker]

Theres no way am i mafia with shadow in this game ever grey

[CloudKicker]

Its also funny because at first grey said i was scum with dreal for defending him and that i wanted shadow, then dreal start to towntell and claims, grey flip to shadow and im scum with shadow now

[CloudKicker]

Grey, i appealed to you all fuckng day to lynch shadow, i myself was the reason why he was at L-1, ure seriously scumtelling the fuck out of this and i believed you would be more consistent than this as town

[CloudKicker]

I want you lynched now since you said he was town and ure scumtelling, indicating probably a chainsaw and that it was a town cross

[CloudKicker]

You dont get to call me mafia when you finally agree with my read of townreading dreal and lynching shadow bro

[CloudKicker]

Nah bro, you claiming with 3 votes and your past slot's wasnt even pr telling for 1 second

[CloudKicker]

Didnt you say that shadow was bad town ? but was only mafia because i tried to save them by trying to flash wagon ? Those last 2-3 posts indicated that you might actually believe im town, that means you would still believe shadow is bad town. So ure claiming cop just to lynch bad town ? please

[CloudKicker]

i sincerely doubt that hes cop but i also dont want to lynch cop

[CloudKicker]

You called me scum, you deserved it

[CloudKicker]

Also i was right on dreal so you dont get to call me idiot

[CloudKicker]

i dont buy it either but i was okay with a shadow lynch before and it didnt change VOTE: shadow i will wait for tomorow with his check and whatnot. I can also buy thathis cop claim was so bad i could see a distressed cop trying to save a nl to fast claim like that

[CloudKicker]

Also i was right on dreal so you dont get to call me idiot

I highly doubt that you are.

Right, that is.

An idiot, I'm sure of.

The reason why i pushed you and you had to claim was because you were wrong on dreal and still are

[CloudKicker]

I know it doesnt, flipfloping does.

[CloudKicker]

I dont think hes scum, i dont think hes cop either. I dont know mafiascum meta about how ppl fakeclaims and such, but i do all the time

[CloudKicker]

Also, if shawdow ends up being scum, grey is most likely town. If grey ends up dead, hes town. If grey outs tomorow with a good check, aka a guilty, its still at the very least 1 mafia for d2-d3. Really suboptimal to vote grey here

[CloudKicker]

Grey outing visit is really fucking dumb btw

[CloudKicker]

@pine not lynching pr claim d1, just vote shadow

[CloudKicker]

Okay but i rather lynch mafia

[CloudKicker]

Dreal didnt hard soft claim, he claimed neihborizer and i townread him before and i also buy his claim

[CloudKicker]

Mafia can also have cop, which makes your arguement really silly and scummy

[CloudKicker]

Hes fine, shadow is mefia

[CloudKicker]

Vig should shoot Pine or drealmerz, I'm sorting Umlaut tonight.

Wheres your scumread on myself went sweetboi

[CloudKicker]

Pine hammer shadow in your next post or ull be on my radar for the rest of the game

[CloudKicker]

UNVOTE: shadow cool a cc

[CloudKicker]

Zach, you understand that grey couldve easily so easily fish the shit out of cop and then try to strongarm the shadow lynch with his fake claim as mefia, i do this all the time

[CloudKicker]

The shadow lynch will give infos about grey slot, about my slot, about zach slot and you can always check him tomrorow. If hes scum he wont die, if hes town then thats good, i expect a protective role if theres a cop on a large game for at least 1 night

[CloudKicker]

Grey honestly your claim was terribad you cant blame him

[CloudKicker]

i just want to point out that i 100% believe umlaut claim, so hes now conf clear for me, i also tr dreal and snp, and probably zach. Those her defending of grey is a bit naive

[CloudKicker]

Nah, no one bought grey's cop claim, i didnt and snp didnt, umlaut also didnt for obv reasons

[CloudKicker]

@grey i dont think so, cop wouldnt have been so carefree

[CloudKicker]

How is what I said naive?

Because ure defending scummy behaviors with a previous read, refusing to take new infos into account. Also immediatly buying his play as town and not doubting much just seems really naive

[CloudKicker]

Cloud, if you think Grey is scum you shouldn't be voting for Shaddow of all people, Grey obviously wants Shaddow lynched.

I'm paying you a visit tonight.

Grey outing visit is really fucking dumb btw

Only if you take everything at face value.

i did unvote, shadow is L-1

[CloudKicker]

Also i was quoting 2 posts that seems like grey is actually softing another pr role that probably can conf himself

[CloudKicker]

I did unvote, i dont really carea bout the mod vc

[CloudKicker]

UNVOTE: shadow cool a cc

[CloudKicker]

im thinking about it, i just dont tr grey

[CloudKicker]

Fish the cop, kill the cop and get a ml in the process

[CloudKicker]

Dude even if all you say is true, the way you did it was unbelievable and ungenuine, it wouldnt have achieve whatever you planned

[CloudKicker]

VOTE: shadow

[CloudKicker]

When you fakeclaim you should do it better @grey

[CloudKicker]

I am clearing myself and zach for day 2, if anyone disagree speak up rn

[CloudKicker]

Atitus should be town too, umlaut slot is clear too so 4 townblock today

[CloudKicker]

Cool dont out it please

[CloudKicker]

The only reason why not outing it rn is suboptimal is day vig mefia, also umlaut getting result means no rb or they tried to rb protective role into cop but that didnt happen for obv reasons

[CloudKicker]

I am clearing myself and zach for day 2, if anyone disagree speak up rn

Needs foundation

i dont need foundation, we are cleared for today and you have no say, jackel is also scumlording

[CloudKicker]

If he had read the game even he would know why im clearing those slots, titus do you have anything to comment about d1 and previous grey play?

[CloudKicker]

VOTE: jackel

[CloudKicker]

btw its really stupid to try and catch the maybe busser, lets go for someone who didnt want shadow

[CloudKicker]

Its a matter of expression, im never getting lynched today, nor zach in almost any scenarios, i also add your slot and um's. I seriously doubt grey faked a cop claim just to lynch his scumbuddy

[CloudKicker]

Shadow was my first, sole, and biggest scumread. i hard defend shadow's counterwagon, i appealed to grey to lynch shawdow a good amount of time, i lead the shadow wagon. Zach did all of this but before me, literraly no scumgain to hard bus this hard d1 from any of our slot and EVEN if we did, theres no way we should be D2's lynch target, we earned that d2 immunity

[CloudKicker]

TheThinker <- Creeps20
drealmerz <-

Shaddowez

, Algebra
-Grey- <-

Umlaut

, Pine

Saddowez

<-

Zach

,

Cloud

, TheThinker, Snorlax, Drealmerz7, -Grey-, SicknPissed

I changed up my name and zach cause we unvoted for a few posts at the end of d1, still we did lead that. Pine had hammer on shaddowez for a while, i remember i asked him to hammer the guy but he ignored me and didnt, sicknpissed vote also was a bit wierd, he hammered when it was L-1 and honestly the context of his vote could be a bus. I will reread everyone eventually

[CloudKicker]

TheThinker <- Creeps20
drealmerz <-

Shaddowez

, Algebra
-Grey- <-

Umlaut

, Pine

Saddowez

<-

Zach

,

Cloud

, TheThinker, Snorlax, Drealmerz7, -Grey-, SicknPissed

Do i think that d1 was a scumcross and they wanted to kill their role cop + encryptor over a probably less powerful mafia ? No -> dreal is not getting lynched today. Do i think that both mafia was voting the same guy at the end of d1 ? Maybe, thats also why i think maybe sicknpissed swept in for the hammer since he didnt want to look bad, i also did tr snorlax so that leaves

TheThinker <- Creeps20

drealmerz

<-

Shaddowez

, Algebra
-Grey- <-

Umlaut

,

Pine

Saddowez

<-

Zach

,

Cloud

, TheThinker,

Snorlax

,

Drealmerz7

,

-Grey-

For today

,

SicknPissed

[CloudKicker]

pine how can you defend that idea, shadow also voted my slot prior to me bussing. Also you bus for scumgain, you dont bus for nothing and an especially good mafia role

[CloudKicker]

dude i legit appealed to grey to lynch shadow, no way you think i bussed

[CloudKicker]

up to page 16

Nonsense.

The algebra wagon is stupid. It has no real basis. The only good reason would be the self-vote, and we're all doing silly things in jest in this thread. That's part of why you're so off-putting, because you're throwing out crappy attacks a mile a minute instead of being methodical.

And what the fuck game are you talking about where we played together? I don't recall any significant interaction between us.

i liked this post, i this it goes well with my reads and the tone is on point, tho the sicknpiss vote i could see as a counterwagon to shadow

Had a sick wife and two sick kids yesterday, catching up now.

In the meantime,
UNVOTE:

The game was stalled, and that vote was meant to get it going again which it seems to have done.

Sounds heartless but this is a textbook scumpost

Yea i think creeps is town, pine towntold in the recent pages too, that or hes massively chainsawing the fuck out of those lynches d1

VOTE: shawdow

I think u good portion of town towntold and shawdow didnt, his post are exactly like zach said, plastic and just not town imo

creeps #106 it doesn't look contrived to me, pine

I'm feeling it too as he is

I like to vote no-lynch at times while ppl RVS because I don't like RVS, just to get reactions and generate reads and discussion, and I think it is stupid that ppl treat it as anything other than an RVS vote when done during RVS, and those who do, I tend to SR as looking for reasons to form a wagon that is easy to hop on - not automatically, but it is something I look at and then judge which way it is

fooey to those who have an RVS double-standard "you can do anything vote anything but if you vote no-lynch or EVEN MAYBE TALK ABOUT IT OMG" - nonono

@pine i thought dreamlz was towny until page 6, where i actually started townreading him. Creep outed a read on someone that got criticized, but then dreamlz came back and defended creep in a totallytown way imo. I already townread creep because i had a mirroring tell, then 1 page after i got the same exact tell on dreamlz, about creep's read. that mean that creep, dreamlz and i all felt the same thing, at the same time in about the same way and dreamz going out of his way to defend creep (whos was fosed) with a mirror tell is just a really strong towntell for me, hence why creep/dreamz are town to me. I also think that snorlax is town for a huge amount of great posts, but from both his heads. Its my first time player ever with hydra ingame but i assume that when you townread both an hydra's head, you prob not wrong

Also btw those 3-4 posts were 2-3 pages ago before i saw the grey strongarming the lynch, imo dreal is a ml and shadow just scumtold in his recent post, again and hes not a low-informative lynch. Snorlax is still town. I suggest everyone stop being a fucking pussy and let themselved get strongarmed on an obvious ml candidate aka the rp player whos just trolling. My read on him isnt even a hard townread, the flip tho is really indicative and im lynching shadow this game anyway so stay on him ty

Grey, i told you why i townread him, i dont want him lynched because i want shadow lynched, this is all pretty simple

lol grey dont you see that the flip is really telling

Lol then we disagree, there isnt a shadow of insumountable evidence againts him, all your saiyng hes that hes scum for messing around which is a bullshit case bro

Thats not what i call insurmountable evidence and its easier for scum to out trs than srs or to slapfight like you said ppl agreeing with you are mefia grey if youre not

Pine, how fucking moronic can you be, do you always lynch ppl who fucking dunk mafia d1 ? EVEN IF I BUSSED, who gives a shit bro i would have played really shittily and eventually it would become obvious i did bus, why not try to not assume mafia hardbus d1 and try to find mafia outside ? Thats so suboptimal im getting cancer at how bad play this is

[CloudKicker]

You bus on D1 for

distance

. When you came in, the shaddow wagon was stalled and on the decline. You glommed on to it to put distance between you, but it backfired when people joined back up. At that point, you can't unvote because it would be SUPER obvious post-flip. Sorry, this happens to us all sometimes.

PEdit: Grey had his head up his ass about other stuff at the time. You didn't think it would work, and were mining towncredit. There's no way you have that strong a rea

d on shaddow without outside knowledge, he had done literally nothing scummy. That's why I was TRing him so hard.

If ure really town ure abysmal

[CloudKicker]

''Mafia got owned d1 by 2 players, he was totally towny, i hard townread him, those 2 players owned mafia but the only way they could know is if they had outside info because i couldnt be wrong about my read on mafia''

[CloudKicker]

How is it backfired ? and i didnt come in the wagon,I FUCKING MADE IT WITH ZACH

[CloudKicker]

All the votes on shadow, honestly this game should be solved pretty quickly

Spoiler:

Hey what's up guys

VOTE: shaddowez

guys shaddowez is like, claimed scum


please cease the algebra wagon so I can begin the frontal assalt

This this this, does no one else see that as a scum vote progression?

VOTE: shaddowez

-N

VOTE: shadowez
The vote on me was essentially a scum claim

@MOD: V/LA until next Wednesday. First final exam is tomorrow. I will still be posting and will still be active during this time, but I do have a lot of work and studying to do.

For now:

VOTE: Shadow

I'm fairly convinced he is scum.

Oh looking morw closely at the algevra shadfoowezc dynmaaic shadooaeec lokks more scummmyh so
VOTE: Shaddoiwezx
~GE

Hi!

I'll read tomorrow. Or not, depends on how the day goes. In the meantime,

VOTE: Shaddowez

Wagons are fun.

Yea i think creeps is town, pine towntold in the recent pages too, that or hes massively chainsawing the fuck out of those lynches d1

VOTE: shawdow

I think u good portion of town towntold and shawdow didnt, his post are exactly like zach said, plastic and just not town imo

~ The Fourteenth Votecount ~

With 13 alive it's 7 to lynch!

[L-7]

Win or Lose We Booze -

[L-7]

Creeps20 -

[L-7]

Jackel98 -

[L-6]

TheThinker -

Creeps20

[L-7]

drealmerz7 -

[L-5]

SickAndPissed -

Pine, Ümläüt

[L-7]

CloudKicker -

[L-3]

Algebra -

-Grey-, Drealmerz7, Jackel98, CloudKicker

[L-3]

Shaddowez -

ZachStralkita, Algebra, TheThinker, Win or Lose We Booze

[L-7]

ZachStralkita -

[L-6]

Pine -

SickAndPissed

[L-7]

Ümläüt -

[L-7]

-Grey- -

Nursing Their Drink

-

Shaddowez

Part 1 ends in (expired on 2016-12-16 13:00:00)

We have less than 3.5 hours or I'd push for a swing to drealmerz.

VOTE: shaddowez

it does look like shadowwez could be scum

I'll go there it is a good counterwagon to mine

UNVOTE: algebra
VOTE: shadowwez

I'm good with a shaddowez lynch.

VOTE: shaddowez

VOTE: shaddow

wait im a fuckin idiot

VOTE: shaddow

VOTE: shadow

[CloudKicker]

Pine how can you even play mafia as a hobby if you deny using obvious information, like me pushing shadow really really hard all d1 not just voting and making bus scenarios where it would be really retarded especially with the mafia flip

[CloudKicker]

Oh I have before Pine. If i wanted to read the past VCA, I would be doing that. Yet, I am not. It's not day 3.

Pick up and move on. Thinker read Pine.

You havent outed anything about grey claim and what not, also whats your reads

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Pine hammer shadow in your next post or ull be on my radar for the rest of the game

relevant

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I guess you really didnt read, grey fake claimed cop then got cced then retracted pretty much

[CloudKicker]

Hes one of those guys i didnt bother reading d1, i only learned he was early on the shadow wagon after the flip

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Dude, this guy is SUPER pissed that I'm not TRing him. Town doesn't obsess over one guy SRing them, they move the fuck on and push their own case.

Happy with my Cloudkicker vote.

Dude i deserved to be instant tred asshole, you did nothing but vote mafia's counterwagon all day

[CloudKicker]

Pine do not claim before you ask me if you need to claim, that bieng said i wont get lynched

[CloudKicker]

Bye.

Just from the game state, early wagon d2 onto someone who voted early on mafia with great affix just screams that this is a ml

[CloudKicker]

I lynch mafia, i deserve to be townread ty

[CloudKicker]

I never bus d1 btw, you can quote this for future game

[CloudKicker]

LOL, if you reread the whole 40 pages, youd say zach and i pushed really really hard, others did vote shadow but no one made as much emphasis on the guy and on the scumread as zach and i. OFC i couldnt vote the guy sooner, i literrraly did 3 posts in when i replaced in. Pro strate to replace in and hard bus the fuck out of mafia cop encryptor

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I just think ure being 4th mafia atm and classic bad townie voting obv town and not obv mafia all game, no offense

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VOTE: jackel

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Because i cannot comprehend how you even play mafia to just fucking suck so hard bro, youre ignoring my whole case, my consistency, the suboptimal play, the fact that I DO NOT SUCK AT THE GAME, that i do not bus, that i entered the game and lynched mafia, that mafia fliped hard pr, that i always went back to my read, that i appealed to YOU, i appaled to grey etc etc etc that would be ONE GOOD HELL OF A BUS DUDE, whats more probable, town lynch mafia or mafia HARD BUSSING AND BEING PISSED ABOUT IT?

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im pissed because that vote makes no sens, just say that you dont like my tone or something, dont fos me for lynching mafia jeez

[CloudKicker]

^ this

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@tituse dre

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@tituse drealmerz claimed neihborized, ulmaut claimed cop, grey claimed cop and retracted

[CloudKicker]

dreal can someone just confirm that youre at least neihborizer ? that would make the arguement valid

[CloudKicker]

omfg

read

the

game

No.

you have to because it clears myself and zach

[CloudKicker]

zer*

[CloudKicker]

omfg

read

the

game

No.

you have to because it clears myself and zach

No. If you're town, real time and VCA clear you.

Honestly at least just skim

[CloudKicker]

yes someone can confirm it but who cares it's not up for debate nor should it be

why not ? it confirms you didnt fake claim

[CloudKicker]

What about, you say who your neihborized ?

[CloudKicker]

Also you just confirmed that your visit went trough and have a chat up, so you cant really back off now. Outing who you did visit is just a towngain

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Dreal if anything i should be the towniest from your pov so trust me

[CloudKicker]

Yes good ty

[CloudKicker]

Reads rn
Creeps20 - IDK
Jackel98 - IDK
Titus - town
Ümläüt - town
TheThinker - scum
drealmerz7 - town
Pine - scum
Sickofit1138 - IDK
ZackStralkita - town
CloudKicker - town
Algebra - town
~GE

I echo this 100% but the thinker where im just null atm

[CloudKicker]

Also Zach damn i love you

[CloudKicker]

Shadowez also put alegbra at L-1 farily early and recklessly, algebra also hard sr and shawdo was initial CW to algebra (by town) with snorlax

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So, I guess I'm glad we didn't lynch Grey, even though we should have.

Definitely town:

Me and Titus

Almost definitely town:

algebra, Zach

Probably town:

WOLWB, CloudKicker

Anyone disagree on these?

The priority of townread really is ugly, its more like

Town cleared if you have a brain : zach and myself
Town because cop and genuine claim : Ulmaut
Almost definitely town : Titus
A big tr : snorlax
Should be town for associations with shadow : algebra

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I strongly disagree that you place me under titus and especially algebra

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VOTE: pine i am extremely fine speed lynching pine and i seriously doubt that mafia would trade themselves 1-1 D2 with 1 mafia down

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Theres obviously another protective role than bodyguard and no roleblock since they wouldved rbd umlaut if they tried to kill outside for a protective role. If they tried to rb outside and hit umlaut, its optimal as a play but wayyyyyyy too ballsy for d1 and lack of protective role reads

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btw if pine is scum, it furthers clears grey and dreal

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Also if pine was town, he wouldve hardclaimed the moment he was hard guiltied

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Umlaut, id like you to be on jackal tonight since hes a lynchbait and it would means the town regain a ml. Also, if you die thinker is conf so no reason to check him either

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@Zach i think we destroyed the game

[CloudKicker]

Tomorow we massclaim

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Thinker didn't target the cop

Yeah right

-n

Why would he claim bg there then ?Why not just shut the f up about any claim as to not get confirmed if he wants to kill cop ? also considering pine is mafia, thinker would then be confirmed if cop dies, all of this make no sens as a last scum pov

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Because I did not know what else to do.

Also this sort of answer is genuine town

[CloudKicker]

I didnt think about frame, if anything ure vi

[CloudKicker]

You completly lost any credibility you had and thats goes not for your slot, even as a scum play pushing me is beyond

[redacted]

I don't usually like to censor players, but this is your warning to refrain from using the word "retarded" derogatorily in any of my games.

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Pine, why not give your strongwilled to cop, why a random dude whos somewhat town from the flip and not like, zach whos clear from the flip ?

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The world pine is pushing -> Umlaut is cop + framer, Cloud hardbussed the shit fuck our of nilla mafia cop, You strongwilled a random townie over hardclaimed cop/obv town Zach

over

Umlaut is cop + guilty a scummy ass player, Cloud played for his win condition and he lynched nilla mafia d1 like a boss, Pine is mafia and doesnt want to get instant lynched so he has to make up a world where the cop report is invalid

[CloudKicker]

Regardless pine, even if i believed framer framed you, you deserve rope

[CloudKicker]

noted

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''No version of this role is currently considered Normal on mafiascum.net; Mafia Framers were allowed prior to the spring of 2013.'' im considering umlaut and pine a hard cc

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Im not here to make you happy, im here to fuck scum in the arse

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Game Name:

Aeronaut's Drunken Christmas Party!

Flavor/Mechanics:

You have been invited to Aeronaut's Drunken Christmas Party, a party for which only the most notorious drinkers and partiers are invited! Expect to get sloshed in the sleet, as we strive as a group to Make Christmas Sloppy Again™!

Your Experience: Mini 1770: College Mafia
Current Modding Commitments:

None

Reviewed By:

Will get back on that.

Back-Up or Co-Mod:

Will get back on that

Number of Players:

13

Hydrae: Will you allow hydra to sign-up?

Yes.

Restrictions:

I would like that any players who /in have played for either 4 months, or have finished 3 games of any size or type.

Is it possible your game has any of the following bastard roles or mechanics? cults, mid-game alignment changes, moderator lies that cannot be reasonably anticipated (for example, Godfather, Tailor, Miller, Ninja, and mechanics like that are generally fine. Telling someone they are a reflexive doctor when they're actually a PGO is not), secret win conditions, un-divulged non-randomness in player role/alignment generation, direct moderator influence during the game:

No. Having said that though, there is exactly one mechanic in the game that is extremely different than the norm. This mechanic does not involve changing alignments or mod-lying.

I just want to be clear here, i hardclaim that i am the role hes reffering to and framer looks like in the realm of mod-lying, this is a norm game

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Umlaut, do me a favor - don't do what the crowd is telling you. Follow your own initiative, and don't get directed. Certainly not publicly.

PE:

You're clearly here to masturbate to your own ego, jackass.

Yep, i get told that a lot, still win a lot

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Also on the mafia wiki tailor is a form of framer, Aeornaut said that there would be no tailor, pine umlaut is confirmed mafia from your pov

[CloudKicker]

Nah i think you misunderstood, i will requote

[CloudKicker]

Is it possible your game has any of the following bastard roles or mechanics?

ults, mid-game alignment changes, moderator lies that cannot be reasonably anticipated (for example, Godfather, Tailor, Miller, Ninja, and mechanics like that are generally fine. Telling someone they are a reflexive doctor when they're actually a PGO is not), secret win conditions, un-divulged non-randomness in player role/alignment generation, direct moderator influence during the game.

Mod answer

: No

[No theres is no bastard roles or mechanics]

. Having said that though, there is exactly one mechanic in the game that is extremely different than the norm. This mechanic does not involve changing alignments or mod-lying

[CloudKicker]

I will re requote myself :

Moderator lies that cannot be reasonably anticipated

: Exemple of said lies -> Godfather,

Tailor

, Miller, Ninja, and mechanics like that are generally fine. Telling someone they are a reflexive doctor when they're actually a PGO is not.

Mod answer: No, but 1 mechanic that does not involve changing alignments or

mod-lying

Pine, ulmaut is confirmed mafia from your pov and id like you to vote them, as least play for your wincon

[CloudKicker]

Snorlax, hes saying that strong-willed imply the opposing alignement have a role that would require strong-willed to correctly perform a night action

[CloudKicker]

Its funny that its the guilty's itself claim that point out to possible incorrects reports

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Also its handy that he did not strongwilled the hardclaim cop, or he would be conf as per his claim.

1. His claim itself is the only thing that point to possible corrupted report
2. His role visits makes no sens and if it did, he would then be confirmed mafia

[CloudKicker]

''Strong-Willed is a role modifier; it usually means that the player's abilities cannot be redirected or Roleblocked. However, any result that may be attained can still be tampered with by roles that alter informational results, such as Framer. In short, it greatly increases the chance of the player's ability working like the player wants it to.''

Since the report went trought, it would imply mafia drive themselves with Pine lel

[CloudKicker]

He's not. There's literally no reason

for him to 1v1 me. It's suicide when I flip Town. You said so yourself.

I think his investigate got redirected. My role implies that redirection is in the game, and it'd be a hell of a lot more effective than roleblocking the cop. I got screwed here.

PEdit: Did yo even read the Strong-willed wiki entry? It makes them immune to roleblock and redirection. Ergo, redirection is probably in the game, as it explains everything.

Thats why i think ure mafia hihihihi

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As per the wiki, it would mean mafia intended ulmaut to get a guilty, whatever is their check right pine ?

[CloudKicker]

No, fuck off. Umlaut is either scum or insane.

That doesnt look like someone who has a role that could make cop report false. Also, still not explains why you werent on cop

[CloudKicker]

Never happening

[CloudKicker]

He singel handedly refused to ever mention why he wasnt on cop, everytime i brought it up

[CloudKicker]

How could there even be any resistance, everyone knows that pine is getting lynched today, regardless of what he says he is 100% getting lynched, any resistance is futile

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Id feel like shit if i was scum in this position and probably lost any interest in playing this game lmao, poor pine's partner

[CloudKicker]

@creeps/jackel, btw umlaut please, do not fuck up an easy game with a bad, heavily consider going on jackel as to assure we dont have to try to townread the guy

[CloudKicker]

*bad check

[CloudKicker]

That or going after a strong player you might be paranoid about excluding myself and zach

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Lynch Cloudkicker. This is my point, it's impossible to have any conversation other than his while he lives. This kind of self-obsessed masturbatory posting is massively anti-Town

No its not, i could say whatever i want while alive as long as i lynch mafia its still towny af and much more town thatn what you did all game

[CloudKicker]

Ulmaut you cannot end up dead, theres no roleblocker because you had a report and thinker is going on you

[CloudKicker]

Lynch Cloudkicker. This is my point, it's impossible to have any conversation other than his while he lives. This kind of self-obsessed masturbatory posting is massively anti-Town

Still not answered

WHY THE FUCK WERENT YOU ON COP ?

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Pine, who should we lynch if you flip town, who should we never lynch?

With the amount of noise, it is impossible to vet the guilty or not.

The more not you voting obvious scum the more youre scumtelling

[CloudKicker]

VC

please

[CloudKicker]

hammer it, he showed how irrelevant his reads are

[CloudKicker]

Umlaut please check jackel

[CloudKicker]

Lynch Cloudkicker. This is my point, it's impossible to have any conversation other than his while he lives. This kind of self-obsessed masturbatory posting is massively anti-Town

Still not answered

WHY THE FUCK WERENT YOU ON COP ?

Still didnt answer this lel

[CloudKicker]

i am self-obessively masturbarbatingly posting into an win d3

[CloudKicker]

Oh really, thats even better @ umlaut. Like you said, his first reaction to being guilted wasnt of someone with a role that hinted to redirection, he also talked about framer (has no relation to strong-willed affix, it would still send a red check) before talking about redirectioner

[CloudKicker]

He also did not answer about why he wouldnt be on yourself umlaut, which make literraly no freaking sens whatsoever, in the possible chance that pine is town here <1% he played awfully bad in abysmal territory. I can also see him pushing me really hard when he knows hes getting lynched as to throw shade at me if we eventually not find last mafia in the futures days, as wifom purposes

[CloudKicker]

The rekt is real

[CloudKicker]

mfw mod doenst lock thread lel

[CloudKicker]

How could both die ? I guess there was two night kill power on him ?