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I would just like to state that despite if i ever mention im not player optimally, its just wifom and im actually playing optimally ty

I loled.

Hi CK.

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Also,

UNVOTE:

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The thinker is starting to ping me a bit. Not really sure about the algebra wagon. If he was scum I'd expect some flail here but I'm not seeing it.

- Sickofit

What makes you think scum would flail here? It's not a given that wagoned scum flails.

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Hi grey, good idea to unvote i havent even read up to rn UNVOTE:

Neither have I, which is why I unvoted.

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Actually, srs vote

VOTE: Creeps

There's been a good deal of voting on principle against bad play, but that doesn't look like pigheaded prissiness (which my vote on 1SVT could fairly be called), it looks contrived.

I had no idea what contrived was and it was this.

(contrived
kənˈtrʌɪvd/Submit
adjective
deliberately created rather than arising naturally or spontaneously.
created or arranged in a way that seems artificial and unrealistic.)

It is safe to say that I am a terrible scum-hunter. As such it probably would look like that. I think

I dislike the saying "but I'm a terrible scumhunter I could be wrong"
It looks pretty scummy tbh.

Does it help that he's being honest?

[-Grey-]

when tge fuck did 'it feels like scum mentality' become actual evidence?

Why are you pretending that d1 votes (and lynches) are not commonly based on such logic (and even less)?

[-Grey-]

BTW my partner hasn't posted in game yet but

they've posted in the PT

.

Scum slip?

Tryhard much?

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his posts

his exchange with drealmerz (didn't read it ain't nobody got time for that)

he's the largest wagon currently

how do u dislike something you didnt read

lol scum dont have to read the thread because they already know everyones alignment
~GE

Town can scroll walls too. I know I do.

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that's a horrible vote

I want to OMGUS vote you for it

Why didn't you?

You threw a lot of shade on their vote and had good logic behind it, but why did you not vote them?

[-Grey-]

as fun as uthis discustsion uis pcan we ztalk about game stuftf?
~ge
btw ik'm goineg to dmrunk-translate ym hydra tags too

Trying to fit in. Have some scum points.

[-Grey-]

Let's get some activity going on around here

VOTE: algebra

Nice wagon here.

VOTE: Jackel98

For sheeping

self vote is PL in my book

no other reason needed to vote

get on algebra pls (:

Such a scumtastic post.

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Dreamy's post where he kicked the thread was fake is and I'd like to see where this goes.

*booed offstage for poor acting performance*

I'm playing a character here! some of the writing and voice that comes through isn't going to be spot-on - I think I'm doing pretty fucking good portraying a character, just like an actor in aplay - sometimes the lines aren't delivered well

and you vote me for it?

and your responses about being scum-buddies with algebra...yeahhh, THOSE sound fake, and you're not openly putting on a show like I am, you're just being "you" - bit scummay

I can see how you might hope to avoid scrutiny by distracting town from the fact you're not doing any actual scumhunting with your roleplay.

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VOTE: dreal.

For as much as I'm enjoying the acting, he's hiding behind that to not provide much for the game. There's almost no scum hunting I can find, 126 and 129 are pretty much the only place he puts out any sort of real reads, and I'm just not getting a town vibe here.

Yeah. What he said.

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ohyeah everyone else is doing SO MUCH

Oh, believe me - I'm not saying that at all. This game is crawling due to a lack of people providing content (and I can't say I'm helping there much either).

Alright, let's do this.

VOTE: algebra

That should be

L-1

That's a disgusting flip-flop.

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they could both be scum, based on shadowwez's behavior too I can see it, and that was my initial thought but then I re-evaluated the wagons because of thinker and algebra ping me realllly hard, where shad I am seeing could easily be a mis-read in ways, ehh, it reads counter-wagon

but I don't discount the possibility!

hi2u distancing post.

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Well they did kickstart the largest wagon of the phase. What are you thinking?

No. Algebra did that.

dreal posted a shitvote that wouldn't have gained any real traction we it not for the self-vote.

Why are you defending them? (Badly, I might add)

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Algebra - ScumDeersAreVeryTasty, Drealmerz7, Jackel98, McMenno
Shaddowez - ZachStralkita, Win or Lose We Booze, Algebra, TheThinker

One of these 2 is likely scum
Thinking possibly algebra for being on his own counterwagon
VOTE: algebra
~GE

Survivalism isn't restricted to scum.

Painting survivalism as scummy kinda comes across that way, though.

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VOTE: drealmerz7

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algebra+shadwez+pine for scum team!

Right. 2/3 of the scum team are being wagoned on d1.

No town actually thinks like this.

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I like these replacements.

Tell me more about drealmerz?

What really set me off about him was how he is trying to hide his lack of contributions behind entertaining the masses.

Sure, it looks cute and fun, until you realize that he's doing nothing to actually advance the game state.

Then the completely unjustified vote on Algebra (which Algebra actually turned into a legitimate wagon by being a fool) and hiding behind that terrible vote to claim that he is being productive, is scummy hell.

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Fuck this, if you asshats are going to lock in Algebra vs Shaddowez as the only options, I'll go with the dead weight who self-voted.

VOTE: Algebra

This is a terrible compromise vote btw.

Algebra's self-vote came from a place of screwing around, not AtE.

shaddowez has been objectively scummier between the two of them, especially with that flip-flop b/s I pointed out earlier.

[-Grey-]

Again, grey with decent reads +1

Why would you say I have decent reads when I'm voting your townread?

[-Grey-]

Another mirror tell i got was my slot which is funny, about algebra post about using a word-trigger, thats also when i started town leaning algebra

You have opposing reads on Algebra, so how exactly is it a mirror tell?

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Well they did kickstart the largest wagon of the phase. What are you thinking?

No. Algebra did that.

dreal posted a shitvote that wouldn't have gained any real traction we it not for the self-vote.

Why are you defending them? (Badly, I might add)

I was mostly trying to form a read on Creeps. My hydra partner was temporarily swayed to the less cool Algebra wagon because of Dream. I do point out that it was a bit of a shitvote at some point, but remained very neutral while doing so. Mostly because my focus was on getting obvscxum Shaddow lynched and reading Creeps in that moment.

-n

What is your read of dreal?

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Algebra is not today's lynch btw people.

Anyone that is content with a compromise vote needs to move to shaddowez, but I'd prefer a drealmerz lynch.

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Wanna know why I refuse to vote Algebra? The same reason he's being wagoned.

Scum is not going to self-vote while screwing around because they are too self-aware of their status.

Algebra's self-vote did not come from a position of AtE, seeking pity over his wagon. That's what makes self-votes scummy. He was just screwing around in the moment. Not brilliant, granted, but he wasn't out to manipulate town.

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Well they did kickstart the largest wagon of the phase. What are you thinking?

No. Algebra did that.

dreal posted a shitvote that wouldn't have gained any real traction we it not for the self-vote.

Why are you defending them? (Badly, I might add)

I was mostly trying to form a read on Creeps. My hydra partner was temporarily swayed to the less cool Algebra wagon because of Dream. I do point out that it was a bit of a shitvote at some point, but remained very neutral while doing so. Mostly because my focus was on getting obvscxum Shaddow lynched and reading Creeps in that moment.

-n

What is your read of dreal?

null-scum

Doubling down on their Algebra vote when he selfvotes seemed opportunistic at the time. I don't want to get too full of myself and assume I've got two scum already, and I'm pretty confident in my Shadez read. The fluff posts are nai for now. I don't feel like they've been distracting from this awfully slow game.--n

Fluff posting is only half of what makes him scum.

Trying to shove through a PL on bullshit grounds that he can later rationalize as the victim's fault seals the deal.

[-Grey-]

A drealmerz flip will also be informative on CloudKicker and Snorlax slot.

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Well they did kickstart the largest wagon of the phase. What are you thinking?

No. Algebra did that.

dreal posted a shitvote that wouldn't have gained any real traction we it not for the self-vote.

Why are you defending them? (Badly, I might add)

I was mostly trying to form a read on Creeps. My hydra partner was temporarily swayed to the less cool Algebra wagon because of Dream.

No... your slot voted Algebra for being on his own counterwagon, as I quoted not that long ago.

Algebra - ScumDeersAreVeryTasty, Drealmerz7, Jackel98, McMenno
Shaddowez - ZachStralkita, Win or Lose We Booze, Algebra, TheThinker

One of these 2 is likely scum
Thinking possibly algebra for being on his own counterwagon
VOTE: algebra
~GE

Survivalism isn't restricted to scum.

Painting survivalism as scummy kinda comes across that way, though.

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Shaddowez would be too.

Nah, I'm actually leaning towards shaddowez being a mislynch but I'm willing to vote there to avoid a no lynch.

My scumreads are: drealmerz, CK, and you.

drealmerz explained

CK for townreading drealmerz with no believable basis (thinking he misread the atmosphere and decided to support his buddy) and his support of you by claiming both heads are posting towny when there's a lot of cogdis going on with your heads unable to decide whether to support the Algebra wagon or avoid it.

You for the bad defense of drealmerz (similar to above), casting shade on Algebra to fuel his wagon when you're not even voting him (572), and my 562

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I see what you're saying about dreal but he's just a goofball so we'll see about him.

That does not justify his shitvote and hiding that shitvote behind a PL push.

dreal has done absolutely nothing to advance the game state and spent the day trying to manipulate town.

That's textbook scum play.

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Hello -Grey- and Cloud my new pals

So uh.... why is shaddow still alive

He is not the droid you're looking for.

[-Grey-]

We have less than 3.5 hours or I'd push for a swing to drealmerz.

VOTE: shaddowez

[-Grey-]

L-1 btw

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Dat algebra wagon irritates me lol

It's why I hate d1 in games. People latch onto the stupidest shit to rationalize a vote.

[-Grey-]

If I'm alive d2, I'm vote parking drealmerz and twisting arms until I hear bones snap to get them lynched.

[-Grey-]

The deadline is friday, no?

Update: I'm going to extend the deadline until Friday. This deadline, however, is a hard one, meaning that it's going to be final.

I was going by the countdown. If it's Friday, we need to lynch drealmerz.

[-Grey-]

Part 1 ends in (expired on 2016-12-16 13:00:00)

VOTE: drealmers

[-Grey-]

The deadline is friday, no?

Update: I'm going to extend the deadline until Friday. This deadline, however, is a hard one, meaning that it's going to be final.

Help me lynch scum and all is forgiven.

[-Grey-]

You're going to contribute more to not lynching scum shadow than u will to lynching drealmerz I guarantee it

Considering those are the only two options for today, I disagree.

[-Grey-]

You're going to contribute more to not lynching scum shadow than u will to lynching drealmerz I guarantee it

Which is more likely to be ran up as a counterwagon to town? Scum, or another town?

Algebra and shaddowez are d1 victims for scum to coast through on without much scrutiny (algebra moreso, but shaddowez has been clumsy in his play as well).

I'm seeing bad play from him, but nothing as deliberately scummy as what drealmerz has spent the entire day doing.

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Both of the current wagons are low-information lynches, which is pro-scum.

A drealmerz lynch yields information on other players that have been defending him on vapid logic.

He is the optimal lynch any way you look at it.

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We don't need to use "information" to prop up our wagons.

Nor have I, and it's this kind of bullshit that has me scumreading you.

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I see what you're saying about dreal but he's just a goofball so we'll see about him.

That does not justify his shitvote and hiding that shitvote behind a PL push.

dreal has done absolutely nothing to advance the game state and spent the day trying to manipulate town.

That's textbook scum play.

That's more than enough reason for town to lynch dreal.

Snorlax is trying to distract from that simple truth.

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What do we learn if Dreal flips town? We have time. We don't need to use "information" to prop up our wagons.

If he flipped town, I'd look terrible for my insistent push on him, which you'd know if you were town.

That you are asking this instead of pointing that out tells me that you know that he'll flip scum.

[-Grey-]

when tge fuck did 'it feels like scum mentality' become actual evidence?

Considering I used 'actual evidence' in my case on drealmerz, I'm sure I can count on your support, no?

[-Grey-]

For everyone hesitating voting drealmerz, I have an exercise for you.

Quote ONE post of drealmerz starting a townread.

ONE.

When you can't, I'll expect your vote.

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For everyone hesitating voting drealmerz, I have an exercise for you.

Quote ONE post of drealmerz stating a townread.

ONE.

When you can't, I'll expect your vote.

Edit.

[-Grey-]

70 posts across 22 pages and not so much as a single town

lean

.

Anyone that calls that townposting is indefensibly scum.

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For everyone hesitating voting drealmerz, I have an exercise for you.

Quote ONE post of drealmerz starting a townread.

ONE.

When you can't, I'll expect your vote.

I'll expect that greenflip

Quote a town read and I'll drop my push.

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Zach, your opinion is worthless because you're not telling us

why

drealmerz will flip green whereas I've posted a mountain of reasons why I expect him to flip red.

[-Grey-]

For everyone hesitating voting drealmerz, I have an exercise for you.

Quote ONE post of drealmerz starting a townread.

ONE.

When you can't, I'll expect your vote.

I'll expect that greenflip

Quote a town read and I'll drop my push.

^ See this? This is me challenging you to do the impossible to illustrate to everyone the stupidity of your unfounded assertion that drealmerz is town.

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The Dreamy scumread intrigues me, though I don't know how much stock I'd put into it.

Either sort the wagon or provide actual reasoning why not.

I've given way too much for my push to be handwaved with no actual reasons behind it.

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The Dreamy scumread intrigues me, though I don't know how much stock I'd put into it.

Either support the wagon or provide actual reasoning why not.

I've given way too much for my push to be handwaved with no actual reasons behind it.

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Haven't really paid attention to anyone else. Someone explain the cases on Algebra and Shaddowez to me.

I destroyed the Algebra wagon. shaddowez is just bad town that is being exploited.

drealmerz is where it's at.

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I never stop scum reading dreal.

Vote him then.

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I also didn't intend my vote on algebra as a serious vote, in the sense that I wasn't scum reading him and voting a scum read, I was voting to get content into the game.

Why would you vote

with

a scumread to get content into the game?

Surely you should know the only real content that would provide would be 100% justifiable suspicion of you for going from voting a scumread to voting

with

a scumread over a few short posts?

This is why I call you bad town. You do things that look absolutely scummy as shit, but things I believe scum would avoid doing at all costs.

[-Grey-]

L-3, now we're making progress.

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Zach, your opinion is worthless because you're not telling us

why

drealmerz will flip green whereas I've posted a mountain of reasons why I expect him to flip red.

The only sensible way to judge worth is on accuracy.

And you have given us no reasons whatsoever to explain why you have cause to believe drealmerz is town.

Since you can't explain why he's town, then you have no grounds to be believed.

If you have no grounds to be believed, why bother wasting time making an unfounded assertion that will simply be ignored?

If you actually believe he's town, tell us why or stfu and eat rope d2 for impeding justice.

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Haven't really paid attention to anyone else. Someone explain the cases on Algebra and Shaddowez to me.

I destroyed the Algebra wagon. shaddowez is just bad town that is being exploited.

That's nice and all but not really an explanation.

Actually, it is.

[-Grey-]

My read on him isnt even a hard townread

You're sure defending him like a hard townread.

Make up your mind on whether you want to distance from or wk him.

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Grey, i told you why i townread him, i dont want him lynched because i want shadow lynched, this is all pretty simple

Algebra's wagon is already destroyed. shaddowez' wagon I'd down to L-3.

People are seeing the light, and your scumfriend is dying today.

[-Grey-]

L-2 on the scum wagon. *\(^_^)/*

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Grey, i told you why i townread him, i dont want him lynched because i want shadow lynched, this is all pretty simple

Show me one single town read from them.

Show me one single post where they are actually trying to advance the game (hint: PL's do not advance the game)

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Youre implying town will have a townread and town would try to advance the game

You're implying that town would not play to their wincon.

Two can play your game, boy-o. You're fighting a losing battle on this front.

[-Grey-]

Implying outing a tr and trying to advance the game is the only way to play for your wincon. Just towntelling is playing for your wincon yknow, when town defends you when ppl try to strongarm the lynches on them

You can say the word towntelling until you're blue in the face, it doesn't make drealmz town because you have to be playing towards your wincon in order to towntell.

Towntelling comes from players making an effort to win the game, which drealmerz has not done AT ALL, so your doubling down and refusal to reconsider your read in light of the insurmountable evidence against him is going to bury you when he flips red.

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Lol then we disagree, there isnt a shadow of insumountable evidence againts him, all your saiyng hes that hes scum for messing around which is a bullshit case bro

That's a criminally bad misrepresentation of my case against him.

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VOTE: algebra - you're a waste of space

Shitty unexplained vote that's borderline rulebreaking.

self vote is PL in my book

no other reason needed to vote

get on algebra pls (:

The only reason he ever gives to vote Algebra, which came will after he actually voted for him.

--

drealmerz hid his shitty vote inside a shitty PL in order to look like he was contributing to town.

The reality of the situation is that he was pushing a wagon that would have provided zero information due to the fact it was based on policy, which clearly advances a scum wincon.

On top of that, his reads consist of a few slapfight scumreads and zero townreads, with no actual investigation of the game state shown from him outside of maybe one post that was little more than a slapfight in itself.

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Thats not what i call insurmountable evidence and its easier for scum to out trs than srs or to slapfight like you said ppl agreeing with you are mefia grey if youre not

drealmerz has been playing the game to deny information to town this entire game and there is no legitimate excuse for their play.

Period.

[-Grey-]

To deny information or not to produce content isnt the same, boy-o

I am well aware and I chose my words deliberately.

[-Grey-]

You still think im mefia with that dude, dont you

If you're still blindly defending him, I do.

If you decide to pull your head out of your ass and reconsider your read, mine isn't etched in stone.

[-Grey-]

And what if he flips town, will you say that i chainsawed him because my reason to tr him is not good enough compared to what he did ? therefore only mafia could know that he was town. Will you try to push that idea or not

If he flips town, then my reads are obviously shit and I'll shut the fuck up and let somebody else drive.

As it stands, this wagon is the only one that is based on a case that goes beyond superficial reasoning.

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A pro-town answer would look like:

"If he flip town, then he better learn to not rp and actually help the game state because he did nothing to blbablabla''

That's a theory disagreement. I don't blame others for my failures.

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lol sometimes the case is correct but the flip isnt yknow

Then I've done my job and have nothing to regret.

It doesn't mean that I'm going to tell others how to play when I'm still learning, myself. That would be the height of arrogance.

[-Grey-]

scumlean/idk/town

[-Grey-]

*extends arm and slaps pine across the face*

HOW'S THAT for your extension

got off your S&P and vote one of these viable wagons already

This seems like a TR tbh
Grey, what do you think?
~GE

I don't see a townread in that post. He could easily be addressing a null read.

[-Grey-]

Apparently the beer I drank while writing my exam was 14.5%

I'll be drunkerposting later for sure...

That's practically water.

Now bring drealmerz to L-1 for great justice.

[-Grey-]

Grey also please just vote for shadow, hes a really greater lynch imo

Considering I'm pulling people off his wagon, that would be rather silly.

[-Grey-]

I'm good with a shaddowez lynch.

VOTE: shaddowez

[-Grey-]

For FUCKS sake we could have done this 5 pages ago without this Mickey Mouse bullshit




...just kidding FRIENDS how are you on this wonderful morning. I am glad you have all finally decided to lynch scum.

I'm not going to reward scum play with a townread.

drealmerz finally started contributing.

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in my view there's not much to do after someone self-votes except lynch them and sort from there

Your view is ill-informed.

Actions are neither scummy nor towny, it's the motives behind those actions that indicate alignment.

Self-voting is

typically

done as a function of AtE. However, that was not the case with algebra, so the usual suspicion of scum motive does not apply.

[-Grey-]

Shaddowez is L-1 btw.

[-Grey-]

Actions are not AI.

Motives are.

[-Grey-]

Or the simple fact that I don't lynch uncountered PR claims on d1 because they are NK bait could be true.

[-Grey-]

I looked at Algebra's ISO and decided there was no reason to wagon him. Then I looked at Shaddow's ISO but I got bored before I could decide whether there was a reason to wagon him, so I voted him over Algebra because "maybe there's a reason" > "definitely no reason"

I wish we had time to flash lynch this.

[-Grey-]

why is shaddow scum again?

He's not, he's just bad town.

Unfortunately, he's the only viable counterwagon.

[-Grey-]

*cough*

Haven't really paid attention to anyone else. Someone explain the cases on Algebra and Shaddowez to me.

I destroyed the Algebra wagon. shaddowez is just bad town that is being exploited.

drealmerz is where it's at.

I also didn't intend my vote on algebra as a serious vote, in the sense that I wasn't scum reading him and voting a scum read, I was voting to get content into the game.

Why would you vote

with

a scumread to get content into the game?

Surely you should know the only real content that would provide would be 100% justifiable suspicion of you for going from voting a scumread to voting

with

a scumread over a few short posts?

This is why I call you bad town. You do things that look absolutely scummy as shit, but things I believe scum would avoid doing at all costs.

There goes CloudKicker's shitty push up in smoke.

[-Grey-]

I haven't flipped on anything, you're just scum trying to save your buddy and I was wrong in thinking he was bad town.

[-Grey-]

Theres no way am i mafia with shadow in this game ever grey

What do you expect me to think, with an attempt to flashwagon me after he hits L-1?

Looks an awful lot like a rescue attempt, to me.

[-Grey-]

Grey, i appealed to you all fuckng day to lynch shadow, i myself was the reason why he was at L-1, ure seriously scumtelling the fuck out of this and i believed you would be more consistent than this as town

If you want him lynched, lynch him.

[-Grey-]

I want you lynched now since you said he was town and ure scumtelling, indicating probably a chainsaw and that it was a town cross

We don't have the time for your bullshit because you're going to lead us into a no lynch scenario.

I'm the fucking cop.

Now lynch shaddowez.

[-Grey-]

You dont get to call me mafia when you finally agree with my read of townreading dreal and lynching shadow bro

And I'm not townreading dreal.

[-Grey-]

Or the simple fact that I don't lynch uncountered PR claims on d1 because they are NK bait could be true.

IDIOT

.

[-Grey-]

Nah bro, you claiming with 3 votes and your past slot's wasnt even pr telling for 1 second

Do you have any idea how to tell time, fool?

We have a day left. By the time i reach L-1, we won't have the time to make a new wagon when I claim.

[-Grey-]

Didnt you say that shadow was bad town ? but was only mafia because i tried to save them by trying to flash wagon ? Those last 2-3 posts indicated that you might actually believe im town, that means you would still believe shadow is bad town. So ure claiming cop just to lynch bad town ? please

As far as I'm concerned he is, but I'm not omniscient and if rather be wrong about him than allow myself to be lynched.

Your bullshit push caused me to claim because you couldn't wait for d2.

[-Grey-]

Grey, what's your actual role name? You have sixty seconds to reply.

I've claimed all I intend to.

If you push me, you can answer for it after I flip.

[-Grey-]

Also i was right on dreal so you dont get to call me idiot

I highly doubt that you are.

Right, that is.

An idiot, I'm sure of.

[-Grey-]

Also i was right on dreal so you dont get to call me idiot

I highly doubt that you are.

Right, that is.

An idiot, I'm sure of.

The reason why i pushed you and you had to claim was because you were wrong on dreal and still are

That's bullshit dude.

Being wrong on somebody doesn't make them scum.

The only time accuracy is indicative of alignment is when somebody is too right for no plausible reason.

Town is the

uninformed

minority. Being wrong comes with the territory.

[-Grey-]

I'm really confident Grey isn't a cop though.

Why don't we discuss that when I out my results d2?

[-Grey-]

I know it doesnt, flipfloping does.

Which I haven't done, so you're still full of shit.

[-Grey-]

Cloud, if you think Grey is scum you shouldn't be voting for Shaddow of all people, Grey obviously wants Shaddow lynched.

I'm paying you a visit tonight.

[-Grey-]

Grey outing visit is really fucking dumb btw

Only if you take everything at face value.

[-Grey-]

drealmerz and Ümläüt are my scumreads.

[-Grey-]

Vote drealmerz with me then

Crossing my fingers that scum might shoot them if I'm wrong.

[-Grey-]

Wait what?

I was going to let the earlier apparent scumslip go as poorly-worded, but that's twice now. You can't be expecting scum to shoot someone you think is scum.

VOTE: Grey

Flash wagon.

He's a claimed PR.

If he's town, he's NK bait.

Piss off outta here with that noise.

[-Grey-]

Pine is experienced enough to know better than to lynch claimed PR's on d1, and he's done that twice now.

[-Grey-]

The desperation to release pressure on shaddowez is amazing.

[-Grey-]

VOTE: drealmerz

I legit forgot about that claim.

So you go back to voting him...

That's not town, lol.

[-Grey-]

I leave for five minutes and you motherfuckers derail a scum lynch and out a claim?? Why TF did grey even acquire votes in the first place? Shaddow literally has his fucking feet up in the scum PT dicing pineapples for his ethyl alcohol Pina Coladas

Paging Aeronaut to numb my soul with intoxicants

Umlaut can catch a vig bullet too but I'm kinda undecided like 60/40 on him

My name is -Grey-, and I approve this message.

[-Grey-]

Vig should shoot Pine or drealmerz, I'm sorting Umlaut tonight.

[-Grey-]

What is pk?

[-Grey-]

So zach, do you feel the grey wagon was a waste?

So pisskop are you happy being on a wagon with a scumread?

[-Grey-]

And -cloudkicker is the most sensible person here

Nah. You are turning out to be.

[-Grey-]

Oh hey btw, I'm the cop. Grey is full of shit.

You're a dumb fuck.

I was fishing for the night kill.

[-Grey-]

I'm really confident Grey isn't a cop though.

Why don't we discuss that when I out my results d2?

You should have taken the hint, moron.

[-Grey-]

You're forgetting that in the hypothetical scenario that grey's scum here, his plan is by no means sustainable

Correction - it's downright suicidal.

[-Grey-]

no its not.

not ass much as people seem to be implying.

Fakeclaiming cop on d1 isn't suicidal?

I thought you were smart, man. Stop disappointing me.

[-Grey-]

I rarely support policy lynches but fakeclaims like this are among the case where I do. Grey was looking scummy to me even without the fakeclaim, I refuse to let the fakeclaim become a reason

not

to lynch him.

Let's hang Grey.

User your damned head for one second.

I'd you had kept your mouth shut, I would have been the defacto NK tonight and you'd have been safe.

Now you're eating a bullet.

Congratulations, you're a genius.

[-Grey-]

Grey honestly your claim was terribad you cant blame him

You were trying to flashwagon me on shitty grounds way too close to deadline. I'd have done the same if I had actually been the cop.

[-Grey-]

its only terribad because umlaut ccd

if grey had been nightkilled w/o umlaut cc and flipped vt everyone would have been like " woooOOOOOOOOOOOOOW he claimed so well "


instead you guys are probably going to lynch towngrey and umlaut may very well eat a slug, shaddow + pine will live, etc etc,


do you see the issue i take here?

PREACH IT MY BROTHER!

[-Grey-]

Also i was quoting 2 posts that seems like grey is actually softing another pr role that probably can conf himself

Just shuuuush already.

[-Grey-]

Visiting Pine tonight btw.

[-Grey-]

Visiting Pine tonight btw.

Wait if you were faking the claim to draw the nk how can you say this...


UNVOTE:

Wagon is already hammered.

[-Grey-]

VOTE: shaddow

Hammer vote.

[-Grey-]

Cloud unvoted, meaning its now L1

Not according to 946, two posts above Sick's vote.

[-Grey-]

Btw, Grey still hints at a PR yet he was trying to draw the nightkill? Okay.

You've already shown everyone how stupid you are

You can shut up now.

[-Grey-]

im thinking about it, i just dont tr grey

While you're thinking about it, why don't you think about what I'd stand to accomplish as scum by taking a cop claim on day one.

Worst case scenario, I'm countered and lynched - bad for scum

Best case scenario, I buy a day but still countered and lynched - bad for scum

There is zero incentive for scum to fakeclaim cop on day one.

Town fakeclaiming cop on day one has the obvious benefit of attracting the NK if the real cop has half a brain and waits for one night phase to pass before countering so he can have a result to share along with the counter.

Now stop being stupid and hammer.

[-Grey-]

Fish the cop, kill the cop and get a ml in the process

1/1 trades are pro-town.

[-Grey-]

I mean seriously, show me any game ever in the history of this site where scum fishes out the cop d1.

[-Grey-]

Replacing -Grey- for a non-game-relatated reason. Explanation will come post-game. Sickofit will also be taking over the Hydra.

This happened because I saw the non-redacted role pm.

I was force replaced due to mod error.

[-Grey-]

Yeah; I had a pretty big mod blunder early on in that -Grey- and Pisskop both saw the Scumteam. They were both gentlemen and let me know immediately, of course.

that's really great to know that sort of gamesmanship is seemingly prevalent around here

I'm an asshole, but I'm an asshole that believes in fair play.

[-Grey-]

Dear Umlaut,

Read Open 661 and you will find a wonderful illustration of the magic that happens when you don't step on my dick.

Warmest Regards,

-Grey-

[-Grey-]

(funniest part is, he's the mod lol)

[-Grey-]

Oh hey -Grey-. Why are you under the counter? Why are you in handcuffs?

That's how I gets down.

[-Grey-]

Hey grey, told u shadow was mefia and dreal was town <3

Lel

[-Grey-]

Why did -Grey- have to be replaced?

Grey and I saw the setup.

How did you all see the setup?

Ninja skills.