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Post Post #625 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 6:32 am

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~ The Fifteenth Votecount ~

With 13 alive it's 7 to lynch!


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[L-7]
Win or Lose We Booze -

[L-7]
Creeps20 -

[L-7]
Jackel98 -

[L-6]
TheThinker -
Creeps20
[L-5]
drealmerz7 -
-Grey-, Pine
[L-6]
SickAndPissed -
Ümläüt
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CloudKicker -

[L-5]
Algebra -
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Shaddowez -
ZachStralkita, Algebra, TheThinker, Win or Lose We Booze, CloudKicker
[L-7]
ZachStralkita -

[L-6]
Pine -
SickAndPissed
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Ümläüt -

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Nursing Their Drink
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Shaddowez


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Post Post #626 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 6:46 am

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Lazy posting to try and get my head into the game.

First impressions from a quick skim-through of not actually everyhing:

I really hate hydras.

WOLWB is town. Probably Zach too. Less convinced about drealmerz7, his whimsy seems more forced somehow.

The Thinker isn't exactly blowing my mind with their analysis but nothing really says scum to me,
except
maybe this:
In post 154, The Thinker wrote:
In post 153, Win or Lose We Booze wrote:BTW my partner hasn't posted in game yet but
they've posted in the PT
.
Scum slip?
Hydra doesn't know how hydras work? Okay.

No opinion at all on McMenno, he's like a non-entity to me right now.

Jackel98 is either low-effort town or low-effort scum, probably need to look more carefully at this.

Could lynch Algebra as a compromise, but I don't really get the wagon.

The whole no-lynch thing with my predecessor is a non-issue. I've literally never seen an RVS vote for no-lynch successfully used as a tell, and I have trouble believing anyone with more than a game or two of experience can seriously take it as one. Looking primarily at SAP, secondarily at Pine (who seems to have been more making a point than seriously thinking 1SVT was scum).

I'm voting SAP because they seem so focused on players
misbehaving,
so to speak (self-voting or voting NL), even if said misbehaviors don't actually correlate much with flipping scum. It's as if they're looking for justifiable scumreads rather than actually trying to sort.

Haven't really paid attention to anyone else. Someone explain the cases on Algebra and Shaddowez to me.

I'm intrigued by Grey's case on dreal, but need to think about it more.
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Post Post #627 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 6:48 am

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In post 626, Ümläüt wrote:Haven't really paid attention to anyone else. Someone explain the cases on Algebra and Shaddowez to me.
I destroyed the Algebra wagon. shaddowez is just bad town that is being exploited.

drealmerz is where it's at.
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Post Post #628 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:04 am

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In post 559, -Grey- wrote:
In post 333, shaddowez wrote:
In post 332, drealmerz7 wrote:ohyeah everyone else is doing SO MUCH
Oh, believe me - I'm not saying that at all. This game is crawling due to a lack of people providing content (and I can't say I'm helping there much either).

Alright, let's do this.

VOTE: algebra

That should be
L-1
That's a disgusting flip-flop.
In post 583, Win or Lose We Booze wrote:
In post 581, -Grey- wrote:Fluff posting is only half of what makes him scum.

Trying to shove through a PL on bullshit grounds that he can later rationalize as the victim's fault seals the deal.
I agree, but Shaddowez's flip flop from 329 to 333 is so blatantly fake/paranoid. Dreal's 332 has nothing in it that would address the concerns he had when voting them in 329.
-Grey- wrote:A drealmerz flip will also be informative on CloudKicker and Snorlax slot.
Shaddowez would be too. I'd rather lynch Dreal than Algebra, but I don't think I'll need to compromise here.

-n
I realize you all see it differently, or I wouldn't be here explaining this, but this wasn't a flip flop. I never stop scum reading dreal. I also didn't intend my vote on algebra as a serious vote, in the sense that I wasn't scum reading him and voting a scum read, I was voting to get content into the game. I guess it didn't come across clearly, but that was the reason behind the entirety of
though.
In post 593, Zachstralkita wrote:Shaddow is def scum lol his post about Ari is so forced

He's like "yea Ari and I are usually opposing alignments but I don't feel comfortable using it as reasoning so I'm not even going to talk about it instead I am going to make this post talking about it telling you all how bad of reasoning it is and why I won't use it but I just had to mention it"
So why isn't a problem for you?

dreal has continued to do nothing but fluff post and try and push for algebra with no resaoning. I need to do some ISO dives, since this is my only major scum read right now and I have too may town reads.
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Post Post #629 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:07 am

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In post 628, shaddowez wrote:I never stop scum reading dreal.
Vote him then.
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Post Post #630 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:12 am

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GDI, I meant to.

VOTE: dreal
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Post Post #631 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:17 am

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In post 628, shaddowez wrote:I also didn't intend my vote on algebra as a serious vote, in the sense that I wasn't scum reading him and voting a scum read, I was voting to get content into the game.
Why would you vote
with
a scumread to get content into the game?

Surely you should know the only real content that would provide would be 100% justifiable suspicion of you for going from voting a scumread to voting
with
a scumread over a few short posts?

This is why I call you bad town. You do things that look absolutely scummy as shit, but things I believe scum would avoid doing at all costs.
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Post Post #632 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:37 am

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VOTE: dreal
Not a fan of the roleplay either
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Post Post #633 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:40 am

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L-3, now we're making progress.
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Post Post #634 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:42 am

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Dreal I'm not going to take any of your defense into consideration if you role play
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Post Post #635 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 8:14 am

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In post 620, -Grey- wrote:Zach, your opinion is worthless because you're not telling us
why
drealmerz will flip green whereas I've posted a mountain of reasons why I expect him to flip red.
The only sensible way to judge worth is on accuracy.
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Post Post #636 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 8:21 am

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I'll elaborate on my opinions later unless you guys pull the stupidest fucking flash wagon ever
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Post Post #637 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 8:23 am

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In post 628, shaddowez wrote: So why isn't a problem for you?
Your mistake here is portraying that post 506 and your post are the same

they're not
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Post Post #638 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 8:23 am

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In post 635, Zachstralkita wrote:
In post 620, -Grey- wrote:Zach, your opinion is worthless because you're not telling us
why
drealmerz will flip green whereas I've posted a mountain of reasons why I expect him to flip red.
The only sensible way to judge worth is on accuracy.
And you have given us no reasons whatsoever to explain why you have cause to believe drealmerz is town.

Since you can't explain why he's town, then you have no grounds to be believed.

If you have no grounds to be believed, why bother wasting time making an unfounded assertion that will simply be ignored?

If you actually believe he's town, tell us why or stfu and eat rope d2 for impeding justice.
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Post Post #639 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 8:44 am

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In post 627, -Grey- wrote:
In post 626, Ümläüt wrote:Haven't really paid attention to anyone else. Someone explain the cases on Algebra and Shaddowez to me.
I destroyed the Algebra wagon. shaddowez is just bad town that is being exploited.
That's nice and all but not really an explanation.
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Post Post #640 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 10:38 am

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In post 639, Ümläüt wrote:
In post 627, -Grey- wrote:
In post 626, Ümläüt wrote:Haven't really paid attention to anyone else. Someone explain the cases on Algebra and Shaddowez to me.
I destroyed the Algebra wagon. shaddowez is just bad town that is being exploited.
That's nice and all but not really an explanation.
Actually, it is.
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Post Post #641 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 10:44 am

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In post 574, -Grey- wrote:
In post 565, CloudKicker wrote:Again, grey with decent reads +1
Why would you say I have decent reads when I'm voting your townread?
I just liked and followed your train of thoughts even if we didnt arrived at the same conclusion p much
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Post Post #642 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 10:45 am

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And i explained my tr on dreamlz, its not like i expect ppl to easily tr such a guy anyway
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Post Post #643 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 10:47 am

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In post 576, -Grey- wrote:
In post 570, CloudKicker wrote:Another mirror tell i got was my slot which is funny, about algebra post about using a word-trigger, thats also when i started town leaning algebra
You have opposing reads on Algebra, so how exactly is it a mirror tell?
The mirror tell i was referencing in that post was about my slot. Then, algebra towntold about it imo something my my Mcmennon didnt agree. The algerabra read isnt a mirror tell
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Post Post #644 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 10:50 am

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In post 582, -Grey- wrote:A drealmerz flip will also be informative on CloudKicker and Snorlax slot.
As long as you dont use mental gymnastis to somehow throw shade at me if he even flips town. If he flips scum ill own up to it
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Post Post #645 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 10:57 am

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Also btw those 3-4 posts were 2-3 pages ago before i saw the grey strongarming the lynch, imo dreal is a ml and shadow just scumtold in his recent post, again and hes not a low-informative lynch. Snorlax is still town. I suggest everyone stop being a fucking pussy and let themselved get strongarmed on an obvious ml candidate aka the rp player whos just trolling. My read on him isnt even a hard townread, the flip tho is really indicative and im lynching shadow this game anyway so stay on him ty
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Post Post #646 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 10:59 am

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In post 645, CloudKicker wrote:My read on him isnt even a hard townread
You're sure defending him like a hard townread.

Make up your mind on whether you want to distance from or wk him.
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Post Post #647 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:07 am

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Grey, i told you why i townread him, i dont want him lynched because i want shadow lynched, this is all pretty simple
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Post Post #648 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:09 am

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In post 647, CloudKicker wrote:Grey, i told you why i townread him, i dont want him lynched because i want shadow lynched, this is all pretty simple
Algebra's wagon is already destroyed. shaddowez' wagon I'd down to L-3.

People are seeing the light, and your scumfriend is dying today.
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Post Post #649 (ISO) » Tue Dec 13, 2016 11:11 am

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lol, not really but okay
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