Pick Your Power: Double Deck (GAME OVER)

[kraska77]

Hmm i completely forgot that therere 2 poisoner cards. it makes sense that they'd poison rb outta the gate out of fear
Killing creature over rb makes zero sense

[kraska77]

Explain it again I missed it

[kraska77]

Ok call me crazy but I have reservations about that "inno"
If rb felt the need to go as far as cop transcend then why would he attack me today for suspecting transcend too? Rather than tell me to back off and hint at an inno?

:/

@giga

[kraska77]

Vecna- titus asking those weird questions last page is totally a thing titus would do as town
Also titus harping on setup and analysis when it's apparent she didn't even read the opening posts properly is again town Titus

As scum shes awfully cautious and consistent....no weird jumps in logic or reads....that's not the titus I'm seeing here

[kraska77]

its been 1 page and a half since ur last post lmfao
u really are overplaying the nonchalance is there a good reason y we're not snapping rope at maria en masse right now?

[kraska77]

u keep coming here to tell us u dont care it sounds fake

[kraska77]

look noones asking u to exert urself
but u wont stop making a point out of rehashing your "im not gonna try to do anything this game" post over and over

[kraska77]

like i'll be really fking upset if ure actually town here

[kraska77]

also you know i totally townread people before eventhough they were completely apathetic/disengaged and had shit isos
yours just doesnt come across as genuine

pedit: the only tr i recall u making is on me
u make breezy votes and then quickly back off them
i can understand that u find the game overwhelming its just the way ure going about this feels fake

[kraska77]

oh right before u bite my head off i just remembered u tr transcend too
but like thats about it

[kraska77]

=((((((((((((
i hate this game feel so disoriented

[kraska77]

do you think dreal is scum despite going for a loverise card?

[kraska77]

no town would pick that card for the double lynch potential, loverise is the drawback

[kraska77]

there should be a comma after no

[kraska77]

would scum want to risk losing one of their own if they kill someone else holding that card? dont think so...theres zero gain for scum here. scum r already trumped by numbers they cant afford to not stack themselves with cards like vigs and investigates(to keep away from town)

[kraska77]

and blockers

[kraska77]

like i'll be really fking upset if ure actually town here

What fucking right do you have to make this claim? None just because I'm playing in my own way and how I wanna do it means you have the right to be upset with me?

just saw this
yeah i'll be upset that u werent really trying and i'll be upset if i find out ive been wrong on you and transcend and made this unfun and annoying for everyone
but you two really feel incredibly off to me. ur play here is reminding me a lot of penguingame when you were taking heat, it gives me the same sinking feeling

and yes giga's town
and so is gerry
why do you think giga's scum?

[kraska77]

giga's voting patterns are really wild and their read progressions a mix of fluid and abrupt...its genuine as hell and this is town giga

[kraska77]

giga me too
and idk what to do re:maria i still very much feel shes scum but my tugging heart =(

[kraska77]

okay good point
we get her later


but first tell me

Ok call me crazy but I have reservations about that "inno"
If rb felt the need to go as far as cop transcend then why would he attack me today for suspecting transcend too? Rather than tell me to back off and hint at an inno?

:/

@giga

^is this tinfoil?^
transcends iso is just oozing scum i cant

[kraska77]

if its between jacket and milkshake today i feel better voting jackel
but what about mcmenno

[kraska77]

im here mcmentos what did i ignore

[kraska77]

Would it fucking ease your heart if I promised I wasn't fucking vengeful?

Omfg just fucking stop

[kraska77]

im here mcmentos what did i ignore

what's ur scum meta on me

God not that word again
Um
Mcmenno
When ure town i don't get ants in pants
When ure scum I do
The way you're interject yourself in the game's happenings feels stiff. You feel way more fluid and transparent when town
Sry if you were expecting some elaborate "meta" report I don't really do that crap

[kraska77]

Would it fucking ease your heart if I promised I wasn't fucking vengeful?

Omfg just fucking stop

WHAT DID I DO THIS TIME

UNVOTE: fine
Just stop pulling my heartstrings
Also stop begging me to vote u


Pedit: VOTE: jackel

[kraska77]

@titus, mucous, vecna

stfu ure all town stop fiting

[kraska77]

maxous is bleeding town why is this even a topic of discussion

[kraska77]

i was just listening to that song

[kraska77]

you said drone was scum and well

[kraska77]

i still think transcend is scum ftr im just shutting up about it

[kraska77]

do not belitt;e what i do to "meta"

[kraska77]

this is why i hate using the word "meta" to describe where my reads come from
because you all have this predisposed dumb idea that its this rigid info system that is religiously followed or something
when its just understanding people's different personalities and quirks and internalising a picture of what their process is like
which is like how ure supposed to play the game i reckon

[kraska77]

How certain are you about your meta-read on Titus Kraska?

Im having a hard time believing it.

super certain
i think vedith recognises shes town for the same reasons i do too

[kraska77]

That said, of those four I'd lynch in this order:
1) Maria - Playing inanely, highly distracting, not helping whatsoever. Only silver lining for her is she started to get her act together after getting shit today. Was on Drone wagon, reasoning fairly weak.
2) Jackel - I think he's an okay lynch at best, but I'd be more willing to go with it today than I was yesterday. Disengaged, not contributing, not scumhunting. I could say the same of several others in the game.
3) Vedith - Hasn't pinged my scumdar so far. Reviewing again, consistently active with decent quality. Reasoning for voting Drone also pretty weak though.
4) Titus - Her reads are shit but I've consistently read her as dumb narrow-minded town. Useful if town & game breaking opportunity arises. Was on Drone but not as opportunistic as others - was on his ass consistently D1.

Okay
Who do you think is scum

[kraska77]

Other than me

[kraska77]

Meta... *farts*

[kraska77]

@vecna, dreal

Stfu u two ure both town

[kraska77]

Top picks would be McMeno & Milkshake for their inexplicable, opportunistic hops on the Drone wagon & overall poor/minimal scum hunting / contribution(though in Milkshake's case I liked MoI). Uzi for his early D1 play, being consistently present but not really scum hunting, large chunks of time where he's present but not using his vote. Poor Drone vote justification despite not being the worst.

I'd join a Mcmenno wagon in a heartbeat but I don't think it has traction today
Maria and jackel are both confirmed to have governer cards btw. Which of the two do you think is scummier and would rather lynch first?

[kraska77]

Oh i missed vedith on the draft nvm

Also vedith friendly reminder that you only townread me when I'm scum

[kraska77]

Yeah?

[kraska77]

Why are you asking me this when u know that u bid on the card and didn't get it?

[kraska77]

I forgot about vedith. so Maria might not have it after all if jackel does

Pedit: what....? I give up in going to sleep

[kraska77]

I forgot about vedith. so Maria might not have it after all if jackel does

Pedit: what....? I give up in going to sleep

No. you seemed 100% certain Maria was governor, I want to know why.

The answer to your question is in the thing you quoted

[kraska77]

Sigh......
Titus is just quirky town. Focus pls
Bedith what's up with ur dumb 180 on titus hmmm? You know she's town so drop that

[kraska77]

Half the people voting me be like:

I SR ( Put anyone but Maria here)

*votes Maria*

VOTE: maria

[kraska77]

Hehehhee

[kraska77]

So Titus, youre looking at the drealmerz response to the post I made....and you dont think its all at suspicious that he took it personally to the extent he did, regardless of at least 4 people having complained about the ammount of spam/trashposts etc at a certain point?

Your read of me is seriously clouding your judgement. Or at least that is what you want everyone to believe.

No. Dreamerz has two settings. Asleep and die motherfucker die.

tell me my settings pls :3

Mine too

[kraska77]

True I do like hugs!
*opens arms* Hug? :3

*sprays cyanide perfume* *hugs*

[kraska77]

VOTE: Jackel98

Even though

He will

Probably be

A mislynch

whats ur other card
one's rig, the other's what?

[kraska77]

idk how i feel abt lightning rod status but okay thx

[kraska77]

waiting for vig bullets to start flying is like waiting for godot and im losing interest in this game fast someone should do interesting thinsg

[kraska77]

u sure are riding the fk out of that inno....................................................
WHICH DOES NOTHING TO KILL MY SUSPICIONS THAT URE SCUM

[kraska77]

maria i don't get your scumread of me at all tbh

It's like the scum squad is coming out to play.
Where's Max to help with it?

Vedith remember when we were friends?

You're normally a lot more controlled than what I've seen from you I also don't get your random wagon jumping it just seems like you give reads but just settle for w/e lynch the top wagon is.

such bs i swear

[kraska77]

It's now on 11 out of 100

no i think she broke th emeter already she makes me feel awful for voting her this is reverse bullying =(

[kraska77]

VOTE: jackel
i dont feel as good about this as a maria lynch but wtv game needs more corpses and less dragging days

[kraska77]

i dont feel as good about this as a maria lynch

I want my hug back

i hugged u amidst a cyanide cloud so we are both already died dw

[kraska77]

4 more votes just quicklynch jacket already dont drag this day

[kraska77]

IF YOU LYNCH ME I WILL STEP ON YOUR FUCKING THORAT SO MANY TIMES THAT YOU WILL CHOKE ON YOUR OWN BLOOD DON'T YOU DARE LYNCH ME OVER THIS WANNABE

aww so adorable

pedit: fishy scum were dumb enough to kill creature of all people night one so im not really sure if theyre actually eliminating people for reads. looks like theyre just taking out people who are townread
rb thought titus and dreal are scum and im sure those 2 are town. he backed off maria too and im sure marias scum

[kraska77]

hes not influential tho

[kraska77]

3 more votes!

[kraska77]

I thought we were playing mafia I didn't know we were playing darts cause from what I can tell yall are just voting and praying we hit a bullseye

id love to have ur putrid corpse hanging but i dont have 11 votes unfortunately this is why large games suck

[kraska77]

hammering without claim is also a-okay

[kraska77]

do you hear that

it's the sound of me shooting myself in the head

excellent

also i asked that to make him rig the cards to something that is not fking clubs for a change

[kraska77]

hey jackal is vengeful? imo we should lynch him anyway and direct the shot if hes town...
if hes scum then oh well

[kraska77]

Guys get back on jackal and let's direct that shot.
I say we make him shoot Maria. Thoughts?

[kraska77]

Jackals not doing anything and I'm pretty sure he'll get run up again later days if we leave him alive today
Him and Maria need to go today

[kraska77]

@transcend, vecna, maxous, gerry
Vote jackal pls

[kraska77]

ok friends

listen up

Best outcome is scum/town tradeoff

not really
current gamestate desperately needs some weeding out of useless slots
jackel seems like he could be of great help to town if he contributes more and has been pushed to do so multiple times but he chooses to continue to be as useful as a white crayon and he'll most probably get run up again and lynched in the future anyway even if maria flips scum today
the only reason dunn and co are getting away with being annoying is because today's wagons are controversial enough to drown out everything else
so i feel strongly about my maria scumread. and jackel wagon popping up adjacent to maria's wagon right from the start of day 1 makes me feel hes probably just disengaged town
so him dying and taking maria down with him is imo the best way to advance the gamestate
even if im colossally wrong about maria and it turns out she was town, this is still a good extra kill we net a lot from. this way we can quickly move on from these two and do something about all the other non-contributing slots while we can still afford a few mislynches. because scum are definitely going to make sure active slots dwindle in number and keep the lurkers around to fall into disarray. imo everyone playing like a deteriment to town should be weeded out early, and this isnt just about policy, i also happen to be townreading most of the active slots too...and i think theyre going after eachother's necks(eg. vecna and titus) because scum are lurking the hell out of the game and it's disorienting town

so tl;dr i think jackels probably town and maria's scum and double kill on 2 noncontributing slots is doing more good than harm even if both end up flipping town.

VOTEU JACKEL
VENGEKILL MARIA

micdrop

[kraska77]

@Jackel vengekill mariar ty <3

[kraska77]

im currently having a bit of an inner discussion whether its worth it or not.

It is

[kraska77]

No he's town who don't make sense
Kill maria

[kraska77]

vecna just hammer dude

[kraska77]

killing maria is the most protown thing to do rn since she has been the second most controversial wagon today, she needs to go

[kraska77]

going after kison, who's producing content, doesnt make much sense when there are other scummy people lurking the shit out of this
like priority should be taking out scummy lurkers

[kraska77]

titus when maria asked the mod about that card, mod said you wont become a lover until that card is activated

[kraska77]

we'll lose it anyway after your claim. because scum are going to day/nightkill u in a hotsecond if that ever gets activated

[kraska77]

ugh
vecna that logic doesnt check out, fact still remains thats a daredevil card scum wouldnt want to have anything to do with
titus you asked for kisons reads right after he gave them. looks like u arent even reading his posts

jackel if ure town ignore this noise and kill maria

[kraska77]

sorry titus but ur unnecessary claim is all sorts of stupid and i have trouble taking u seriously after that

[kraska77]

To expand just a little:

- Scum don't want Lights Out Lynching to be in the game. It's very protown.
- Scum don't want to be lovers. Scum really fear death, particularly when outnumbered like they are here.
- Sure, the King of Diamonds gives you towncredit. That won't save you when your lover dies in a tragic pineapple accident. And in general, the towncred scum get for taking actions that weaken you significantly is never enough to compensate for that weakness.

yes this

i haven't read the last few pages so i'll probably just do a catch-up tomorrow

theres nothing imp in the last 5 or whatever pages

[kraska77]

why would u pick randomly
u do realise if u dont kill maria today, tomorrow will be basically a rerun of today and we'll lynch her anyway? thats why she should be killed already so we can move on to others

[kraska77]

he makes a great shot too, go for it ^_^

[kraska77]

sure lets waste another 5 pages discussing hypothetical vengekills on town

[kraska77]

yes titus is really town. are you going to shoot someone who just claimed town in thread?
and maria and mcmenno have been my top tier preferred lynches since the beginning of the day
like sure shoot who u want i dont wanna micromanage this...but dont shoot someone who claimed a lover card ffs

[kraska77]

No that card goes against scum wincondition and that vastly outweighs any "towncred" it can ever glean
Seriously.
Titus is just town with really bad reads who insists on strongarming them too -_-

[kraska77]

And most ironic post in the game goes too...

Nice to see u flex survival muscles as soon as a real threat of a kill on you materialises

[kraska77]

VOTE: maria

[kraska77]

i don't think mcmenno is scum tbh

Why

[kraska77]

OH

Nobody died because maria is the mafia gov and got shot at, and that card also has bulletproof.

This isn't true btw
Because vedith claimed having the other Jack of clubs
so either she had bp bc of the inventory card or didnt

[kraska77]

That's not possible either.
Dunn is trying to manufacture a mislynch candidate. He's scum.

what's not possible?

Ok

Can you stop this

[kraska77]

A 3c was trumps, and someone else has recently claimed to have one. There can't be another one out there.

Oh. Right.
Jackel didn't shoot anyone then? If so....no words

[kraska77]

Inventory is such a useless card giga
Are you going to die today or is a doc active?

[kraska77]

Oh right
White mage
that explains everything

[kraska77]

Transcend is white mage and clear

And....?

[kraska77]

kresko thinks she can slip by like a snake (✿◠‿◠)

??

[kraska77]

No. Explain it

[kraska77]

Explain how I'm "slipping by like a snake"

[kraska77]

Honestly I'm so close to replacing out because of the amoun of annoying bs this game

[kraska77]

Dunnstral, transcend and everyone else playing the same way
Can you stop being annoying on purpose here? this isn't even funny trolling its just trolling and theres so much to read everytime I open this thread it's hard to care when you guys are being that way. This is so much like that horrible TK game that just ended

[kraska77]

Uni internet is weak and the images are taking forever to load so I asked if we have an active doc card right now

[kraska77]

Titus it said card was placed on the deck that implies rigging

And dunn yeah that makes sense. tangent but is it bad that i still think transcend is scum? He says he's disengaged because of the inno but he hasn't been doing anything right from the start of the game
Other than defend maria

[kraska77]

Titus before you go
Is there any reason to townread maria? I really don't understand how you can townread her play here

[kraska77]

You know...I feel shaky about labelling cards as scummy or town especially after the latest reveals and the amount of people who randomized their cards

Pedit: @giga

[kraska77]

Also why would scum choose roleblocker with a neighbour affix when they can choose roleblocker+strongman

[kraska77]

I know , I'm not undermining the possibility
Just pointing out that it's as scummy a card as any

[kraska77]

Giga, Sheep me until i am wrong?

the 2 mislynches we have so far are lynches u super advocated

[kraska77]

-_______________________________--

she obviously referring to luz here

[kraska77]

if you know then what is the point of that post

[kraska77]

yes im having trouble trying to understand why you think that was a question worth asking"titus is he bothering you in scumchat? not helping your agenda?"
like seriously

[kraska77]

transcend,,
why dont you replace out before game becomes impossible for replacements to catch up on

[kraska77]

titus
even if u think kison is scum
surely there are better places to vote considering the current gamestate?
kison, even if scum, is one of the few playing protown right now and i sweriously cant consider lynching there before cleaning the playerlist of maria, uzi, and even transcend

[kraska77]

oh and MILKSHAKE

[kraska77]

i really give no fucks if milkshake or transcend are actually town
considering how vigs are highly conditional this game, im sure theyre making it to endgame bc scum would never be dumb enough to kill them

[kraska77]

fuck why am i such a prick this game
but seriously
milkshake and transcend wtf are u doing

[kraska77]

The worry is not their alignment but judgement
They're clearly out of the loop with what's going on

[kraska77]

im waiting for maria to get lynched
but that lynch is getting stalled because titus
i have nothing to add before i see a maria flip
what do you want from me

[kraska77]

vote already to make this abomination end faster

[kraska77]

no l-2

[kraska77]

And you're voting her?

no i am clealry asking for a lynch on her while not voting myself :^)

[kraska77]

WWWWOww dreals was scum wow shit
hi guys lol

[kraska77]

oh yes props to fishy and giga for amazing play, they pulled town together

[kraska77]

i was somewhat toxic this game and my relentless focus on transcend after the cop was pretty dumb...also i think i played a huge part in undermining titus' reads(altho to be fair her resistance to the maria lynch was pretty bad)
sorry @creature i think i got on ur case a little too much, your reads were actually great