Open 660 - White Flag (Game Over)

[Toto]

Im not omgusing. That post just reads like you are explaining why you killed aubrey. Its a hunch but I think Im right.

Kein. You didn't answer what questions Im avoiding.

[keyenpeydee]

Lol I am not. What do you expect scum to do? Of course Kill the most protown here in the game. You're saying like it's not an obvious thing that scum would do.

[chilledtea]

Need the VC. Don't like transcend's vote on toto.

Currently looking at transcend, {LQ, Vedith}, Deimos as the possible scum team. Not in that order.

[Transcend]

kain's town

idr what it was but i don't think LQ/Gamma are on a scum team.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

You posted that during my alban push I think

[LicketyQuickety]

Need the VC. Don't like transcend's vote on toto.

Currently looking at transcend, {LQ, Vedith}, Deimos as the possible scum team. Not in that order.

So you don't think Ved and I are on the Scum team. Could you explain that?

[Toto]

Lol I am not. What do you expect scum to do? Of course Kill the most protown here in the game. You're saying like it's not an obvious thing that scum would do.

Im not saying that. It makes sense but why did you decide to post that in the first place?

[keyenpeydee]

Is it that bad?

[alban]

Some thoughts:
Good thing yall decided to lynch dave d1. If yall didn't, I would expect him to be so useless when lylo comes.

Keyen, what do posts like these even mean?
11 players now. Lylo, even with 3 mafia alive, is a long way to go. Why are you thinking of a situation so far away, and why are you sure that dave would have been alive at that time?

My honest suggestion to you is to be more solid in what you post.

[alban]

I always doubt lq tbh

Have you played with him before?
Why do you doubt him?

Chilled, well I think his posts are pretty town but tbh i feel like there's something in it.

Can you elaborate? At least try?

[alban]

Day 1 VC 16

PsychoticDave: Toto, keyenpeydee, chilledtea, alban, LicketyQuickety, ssbm_Kyouko, Aubrey -

LYNCH

Toto: Transcend, PsychoticDave
LicketyQuickety: Gamma Emerald, KainTepes
Deimos27: Vedith

Not voting: Deimos27

With 13 players, it's 7 to lynch!

I intend to do a VCA for d1 at some point as I catch up, but I'm dead tired right now from another thing (can't talk about it because of site rules). So that'll have to wait until another time.

For now, heres what I think on how scum would pattern here. At least one scum in the centre of the Dave wagon (common place for them to hide...)
So that's:
{chilled, alban, LQ, Kyouku}

As well as at least one outside the wagon (three scum and four town on the same wagon? I find it highly unlikely that psychology would allow them to bunch like that).
So that's:
{Transcend, Gamma, Kain, Vedith}

I'll start narrowing those down probably starting tomorrow or Sunday.

This is so outlandish, I would treat deimos a town.

[LicketyQuickety]

Some thoughts:
Good thing yall decided to lynch dave d1. If yall didn't, I would expect him to be so useless when lylo comes.

Keyen, what do posts like these even mean?
11 players now. Lylo, even with 3 mafia alive, is a long way to go. Why are you thinking of a situation so far away, and why are you sure that dave would have been alive at that time?

My honest suggestion to you is to be more solid in what you post.

Bad posts: both of them.

[alban]

Deimos and keyenpeydee both scum.

@Mod - V/La until Sunday

You finding them scummy, is a bit weird and is scummy in itself.

P-edit: your verdicts are useless if you don't provide a reason.

[alban]

P-edit part is for lq

[keyenpeydee]

Would answer questions later.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Day 1 VC 16

PsychoticDave: Toto, keyenpeydee, chilledtea, alban, LicketyQuickety, ssbm_Kyouko, Aubrey -

LYNCH

Toto: Transcend, PsychoticDave
LicketyQuickety: Gamma Emerald, KainTepes
Deimos27: Vedith

Not voting: Deimos27

With 13 players, it's 7 to lynch!

I intend to do a VCA for d1 at some point as I catch up, but I'm dead tired right now from another thing (can't talk about it because of site rules). So that'll have to wait until another time.

For now, heres what I think on how scum would pattern here. At least one scum in the centre of the Dave wagon (common place for them to hide...)
So that's:
{chilled, alban, LQ, Kyouku}

As well as at least one outside the wagon (three scum and four town on the same wagon? I find it highly unlikely that psychology would allow them to bunch like that).
So that's:
{Transcend, Gamma, Kain, Vedith}

I'll start narrowing those down probably starting tomorrow or Sunday.

This is so outlandish, I would treat deimos a town.

That's not really very outlandish at all. Being a townie on that lynch wagon makes it a bit easier to find scum since you know your own and Aubrey's alignments. Odd that he leaves Keyen out but puts me in though since we're equidistant to the center of the wagon where scum hide

[alban]

yeah, I was town.

This was a very frustrating game tbh I'm glad I'm out of it.

This is the reason why toto's wagon deflated.
Someone thought he is at l-1, lq congress and votes, someone thinks l is reached, toto thinks so too, and confesses this.

Now three ppl - transcend, tepes and keyen - are again voting for toto. So you don't believe toto's claims on day 1? Why? I am tr-ing him and if you are doubting him without even questioning him, i wanna know why.

[alban]

Day 1 VC 16

PsychoticDave: Toto, keyenpeydee, chilledtea, alban, LicketyQuickety, ssbm_Kyouko, Aubrey -

LYNCH

Toto: Transcend, PsychoticDave
LicketyQuickety: Gamma Emerald, KainTepes
Deimos27: Vedith

Not voting: Deimos27

With 13 players, it's 7 to lynch!

I intend to do a VCA for d1 at some point as I catch up, but I'm dead tired right now from another thing (can't talk about it because of site rules). So that'll have to wait until another time.

For now, heres what I think on how scum would pattern here. At least one scum in the centre of the Dave wagon (common place for them to hide...)
So that's:
{chilled, alban, LQ, Kyouku}

As well as at least one outside the wagon (three scum and four town on the same wagon? I find it highly unlikely that psychology would allow them to bunch like that).
So that's:
{Transcend, Gamma, Kain, Vedith}

I'll start narrowing those down probably starting tomorrow or Sunday.

This is so outlandish, I would treat deimos a town.

That's not really very outlandish at all. Being a townie on that lynch wagon makes it a bit easier to find scum since you know your own and Aubrey's alignments. Odd that he leaves Keyen out but puts me in though since we're equidistant to the center of the wagon where scum hide

You mean to say, you suspect deimos?
Keyen as a second voter and you as an l-2 voter could be considered a valid reason, equidistant argument notwithstanding.

[alban]

I mean putting you but not putting keyen is explicable.

[alban]

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... g_Early_On

See "The Butter Zone". Now I thought the tell was votes 3 and up but it is actually 2 and keyen should be included. That's my bad.

But he himself doesn't believe that.
I dunno if he buckled under pressure which would make him a gullible townie, or if he deliberately chose to exclude keyen. But in that case, I can't imagine deimos n keyen being mafia together.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Sure it's explicable, but I have the benefit of my role PM in this wagon's analysis. If I die, so will the rest of you. I said it was odd because it appears odd from my point of view. I don't mean to say I suspect deimos in that post, I mean what I said.

[LicketyQuickety]

Deimos and keyenpeydee both scum.

@Mod - V/La until Sunday

You finding them scummy, is a bit weird and is scummy in itself.

P-edit: your verdicts are useless if you don't provide a reason.

P-edit part is for lq

If you insist: Your post was way worse than Keyen's in that interaction.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... g_Early_On

See "The Butter Zone". Now I thought the tell was votes 3 and up but it is actually 2 and keyen should be included. That's my bad.

But he himself doesn't believe that.
I dunno if he buckled under pressure which would make him a gullible townie, or if he deliberately chose to exclude keyen. But in that case, I can't imagine deimos n keyen being mafia together.

Is there a specific interaction that leads you to believe they can't be a scumteam?

[alban]

Deimos and keyenpeydee both scum.

@Mod - V/La until Sunday

You finding them scummy, is a bit weird and is scummy in itself.

P-edit: your verdicts are useless if you don't provide a reason.

P-edit part is for lq

If you insist: Your post was way worse than Keyen's in that interaction.

Repeating yourself doesn't magically transform into reasoning.

[alban]

http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?tit ... g_Early_On

See "The Butter Zone". Now I thought the tell was votes 3 and up but it is actually 2 and keyen should be included. That's my bad.

But he himself doesn't believe that.
I dunno if he buckled under pressure which would make him a gullible townie, or if he deliberately chose to exclude keyen. But in that case, I can't imagine deimos n keyen being mafia together.

Is there a specific interaction that leads you to believe they can't be a scumteam?

I don't remember their d1 together. General feeling.
Are you suggesting they could be a scum team together, and that's the reason deimos has excluded keyen?