Micro 669 - Procrastination Mafia - At The End...(GAME OVER)

[Infinite Justice]

It seems like BnL isn't understand certain things that well but he's questioning them instead of attacking them, which looks town to me.

-Inf

[BNL]

Ok now I see why Gamma was wagoned, 237 was opportunistic.

Not sure if I would be voting him, I want to read Ari a bit more. Calming down on Drealmer though.

[BNL]

I have issues with you just saying that now without pointing it out before. I expected if you townread zach after the fakehammer thing for you to immediately vote for who you think is scum or try to find them.

VOTE: gamma

Why did you scumread SAJ before his latest post?

-Inf

Which of Gamma's posts were you referring to with this post?

That string of posts were in response to posts after his last post before that string

[Infinite Justice]

Who is scum if not zach gamma?

-Inf

SAJ and Dunn I guess, the first is my stronger SR.

This

-Inf

[BNL]

I don't see why you put so much important on where my vote is. To be honest, my vote could be on BnL, on you, my top townread, or on no one, and it wouldn't make too much of a difference to me. So I kept my vote because the best purpose for it right now is to let titus to whatever she was gonna do with it. Titus did then tell me by pm that I could move my vote, but I don't see a reason to because I don't have a place for it. It seems to me that you put a lot of importance on where people's votes are at any given time, but I don't in the early game and that's basically what this is.

I also don't see where I contradicted myself

-Inf

For real?

You've been at L-1 already,but you don't think the placement of your vote is important?

This shit can't be right.

Nice fakehammer btw

Thanks! It was some of my finest work!
Did you know it was a fakehammer when you claimed, or was that only noticed when you scrolled up?

I didn't realize I had been "lynched" when I posted initially

In that case, you get a townread for the reaction.

[unvte][/unvote]

Someone sell me on a wagon please

These posts are scum.
VOTE: Aristophanes

Why is no one voting here?

[Infinite Justice]

BnL, I see what you're seeing here, but we have 4 days left and need to consolidate a wagon. Vote gamma and have him claim and we'll see where it goes from there.

-Inf

[BNL]

Four days is enough to swing a wagon onto someone, if everyone is posting then they can switch their vote. I get that last minute wagons aren't good but it isn't last minute.

I also dislike compromising, and I don't like that you're persuading me to, that feels scummy to me. If you're town reading Ari, you should be saying why to dissuade me from voting there. And please do so.

[Infinite Justice]

4 days last minute imo. You're entitled to your opinion of course, but don't be surprised when we end up with a lynch and no claim or even a no lynch. And judging by the last couple days, not everyone is posting. Compromising is a necessary evil especially on d1.

I don't townread ari, but I don't think it's realistic to wagon there today, and I don't scumread him nearly as strongly as I do gamma.

-Inf

[Infinite Justice]

I get why it feels suspicious to you that I'm seeking the gamma vote not completely based on a scumminess argument but also a necessity argument. But the necessarily argument is definitely there imo, 4 days isn't a lot of time. Just to be clear though, I'd be advocating gamma votes even if there was more time left in the deadline.

-Inf

[Infinite Justice]

selling the gamma vote*

[inspectorscout]

Aristophanes was prodded.

[Dunnstral]

I don't see why you put so much important on where my vote is. To be honest, my vote could be on BnL, on you, my top townread, or on no one, and it wouldn't make too much of a difference to me. So I kept my vote because the best purpose for it right now is to let titus to whatever she was gonna do with it. Titus did then tell me by pm that I could move my vote, but I don't see a reason to because I don't have a place for it. It seems to me that you put a lot of importance on where people's votes are at any given time, but I don't in the early game and that's basically what this is.

I also don't see where I contradicted myself

-Inf

For real?

You've been at L-1 already,but you don't think the placement of your vote is important?

This shit can't be right.

Nice fakehammer btw

Thanks! It was some of my finest work!
Did you know it was a fakehammer when you claimed, or was that only noticed when you scrolled up?

I didn't realize I had been "lynched" when I posted initially

In that case, you get a townread for the reaction.

[unvte][/unvote]

Someone sell me on a wagon please

These posts are scum.
VOTE: Aristophanes

Why is no one voting here?

Because he's an easy vote for scum to make

[BNL]

...But no one is voting Ari other than me?

[Infinite Justice]

Hey I have an idea

Someone vote gamma so we don't have to rush to deadline lynch

-Inf

[Aristophanes]

Whoops! I didn't realize it had been so long!

I'll be here at some point soon.

[BNL]

Hey I have an idea

Someone vote gamma so we don't have to rush to deadline lynch

-Inf

Ugh

I was coming around to you town and you suddenly become scummy

[BNL]

VOTE: Zachstralkita
L-1
Agreeing with Dunn here, this does not feel like your towngame currently.

Ok so first step

Explain what Zach's towngame feels like, because I've never been in a game with him before

[BNL]

You think you're funny huh

I mean, I do. But that was supposed to be an actual unvote as I likes the reaction.

UNVOTE:

lol

Zach's done that as scum before

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p8466765

This is true. As Backup Mod and part of the story I followed and should have remembered that. It does make him more null than I had him previous to this, but I still liked his reactions.

What do you mean done that as scum before? Claiming VT is something scum do?

Because like I said, I didn't even realize I'd been "hammered". You can accuse me of manipulating the fake hammer but I didn't even know there was a hammer to begin with until AFTER my claim. If anyone at all is going to SR me have it be on play and not shitty meta. Then I will respect you more but still very, very little.

Do you usually troll post-hammer as scum?

[BNL]

Waiting for Drealmer to come back to see if his reads have changed, and also for the answer to this post:

Please give me your thoughts outside IJ and myself.

they're all town

Is this because you think IJ and I are scum? Or do you have independent reasons on all of them?

[BNL]

Actually

Why would drealmerz7 not try to convince Ari that me&IJ were scum when Ari asked to be convinced on a wagon?

[BNL]

drealmerz chose to push Dunn for a case instead

[Zachstralkita]

VOTE: Zachstralkita
L-1
Agreeing with Dunn here, this does not feel like your towngame currently.

Ok so first step

Explain what Zach's towngame feels like, because I've never been in a game with him before

You're talking to motherfuckers who don't REALLY know what Zach's towngame feels like

You think you're funny huh

I mean, I do. But that was supposed to be an actual unvote as I likes the reaction.

UNVOTE:

lol

Zach's done that as scum before

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p8466765

This is true. As Backup Mod and part of the story I followed and should have remembered that. It does make him more null than I had him previous to this, but I still liked his reactions.

What do you mean done that as scum before? Claiming VT is something scum do?

Because like I said, I didn't even realize I'd been "hammered". You can accuse me of manipulating the fake hammer but I didn't even know there was a hammer to begin with until AFTER my claim. If anyone at all is going to SR me have it be on play and not shitty meta. Then I will respect you more but still very, very little.

Do you usually troll post-hammer as scum?

I find the basis of your question dubious at best and subject to my intense scrutiny sir

[BNL]

VOTE: Zachstralkita
L-1
Agreeing with Dunn here, this does not feel like your towngame currently.

Ok so first step

Explain what Zach's towngame feels like, because I've never been in a game with him before

You're talking to motherfuckers who don't REALLY know what Zach's towngame feels like

I'm more interested in how Gamma says your towngame feels like than what it actually is.

You think you're funny huh

I mean, I do. But that was supposed to be an actual unvote as I likes the reaction.

UNVOTE:

lol

Zach's done that as scum before

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p8466765

This is true. As Backup Mod and part of the story I followed and should have remembered that. It does make him more null than I had him previous to this, but I still liked his reactions.

What do you mean done that as scum before? Claiming VT is something scum do?

Because like I said, I didn't even realize I'd been "hammered". You can accuse me of manipulating the fake hammer but I didn't even know there was a hammer to begin with until AFTER my claim. If anyone at all is going to SR me have it be on play and not shitty meta. Then I will respect you more but still very, very little.

Do you usually troll post-hammer as scum?

I find the basis of your question dubious at best and subject to my intense scrutiny sir

I want to know if you usually continue claiming town or claim scum after you've been hammered in the absence of shenanigans. This helps me read you here.

[BNL]

I have issues with you just saying that now without pointing it out before. I expected if you townread zach after the fakehammer thing for you to immediately vote for who you think is scum or try to find them.

VOTE: gamma

Why did you scumread SAJ before his latest post?

-Inf

Actually, why didn't you ask the same question to Ari?

[BNL]

Wait IJ you aren't wanting people to compromise you just want a claim from Gamma don't you?