Pick Your Power: Double Deck (GAME OVER)

[kraska77]

VOTE: maria

[SpyreX]

I cant imagine anyone taking a card for.shooting and then not shooting thats 2h level crazy

[Maxous]

@Dunn: Sorry, I guess that came across more snippy than I intended.

@Dave, Jackel let himself be lynched specifically so he could shoot someone.
Either Maria or menno has to be scum here

[Dunnstral]

@Dunn: Sorry, I guess that came across more snippy than I intended.

I mean how do you know that?

I must have missed something, or a lot of things

[Dunnstral]

and stop acting like 2 of hearts is a super crazy card to get it lowers the lynch pool

[Maxous]

Transcend rigged the deck yesterday

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Hi i didn't get vigged lol

Also i rigged the deck, that shitty card is now out of my hand.

Sry Drone love you

[Dunnstral]

He could have said "no shot" which would have ended the time immediately.

And he'd do that why?

[Lil Uzi Vert]

To screw town.

[davesaz]

On Titus I still have a "not seeing the scumtell". Which is not to say I'm sold on town there.

Do you think scum Titus would pick the King of Diamonds?

If she were scum, she could easily fakeclaim Kd in order to look town. The card would have to show up twice in other places to disprove that type of claim.

[Quipla]

DECK x 40 - TRUMP x 1 - DISCARD PILE x 15

DAY 3 VOTECOUNT #1

MariaR (2)

- Dunnstral, kraska77

Not Voting (17)

- MariaR, Vedith, Titus, milkshake, Transcend, gerryoat, Fishythefish, davesaz, Kison, gigabyteTroubadour, Maxous, drealmerz7, Vecna, SpyreX, McMenno, Lil Uzi Vert, Vifam

With 19 alive, it takes 10 to lynch.

Deadline is set for (expired on 2016-12-27 23:46:27)

[Kison]

Didn't Transcend rig the deck during night one while Alpha Deck Rig would have been active?

This one would have been rigged while clubs & beta deck rig was active.

VOTE: MariaR

I wanted to reread the game during the weekend but I got the flu Friday night. I'll have to carve out a large chunk of time to review Jackel & his long drawn-out wagon, but taking a quick look does suggest he most likely shot McMenno or Maria with an outside shot he went for someone else. We really screwed up not having him confirm who he was targeting beforehand.

To screw town.

That makes no sense. Why would he do that?

On Titus I still have a "not seeing the scumtell". Which is not to say I'm sold on town there.

Do you think scum Titus would pick the King of Diamonds?

If she were scum, she could easily fakeclaim Kd in order to look town. The card would have to show up twice in other places to disprove that type of claim.

I'm pretty sure Drealmerz claimed to have tried to get King of Diamonds but failed, so we should know that two people above him got that card and that they're both in play.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Being mislynched sucks and I can easily see someone doing that out of anger and frustration.

Anyway VOTE: Maria

This feels right but I'd like to hear a bit more for McMemmo.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Being mislynched sucks and I can easily see someone doing that out of anger and frustration.

Anyway VOTE: Maria

This feels right but I'd like to hear a bit more from McMemmo.

EBWOP

[davesaz]

Grr, there are some people who don't like game theory 101 lectures, but if you're going to insist then I'll oblige.

Situation matters, a lot. Suppose you have a game with very few PRs. If there is someone who town is clearly better off without, then you go ahead and risk hitting town. If you have a highly likely scum read you take the shot at them. But you don't screw town over by shooting someone you think is town. And you don't take a wild shot if you don't really have any strong reads.

This game is a lot more like role madness. It's actively bad for town to take a vig or venge shot unless you're really sure it benefits town. You have a

100% chance of hitting a PR

in this game. (*) Well, it's more like a n-shot random phase JOAT, but still everyone is a PR of some sort...

I do not think we should assume anything about Jackel's shot, and I'm going to take a very dim view of anyone trying to push that angle.

Pedit: why do you want to hear from McMenno?

[gerryoat]

Someone sent me fruit too (During Day 2 not the night) BTW. AFTER I SAID DONT SEND ME FRUIT. That means one of the fruit venders is mafia. I only said dont send me fruit to see if a maf would.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Grr, there are some people who don't like game theory 101 lectures, but if you're going to insist then I'll oblige.

Situation matters, a lot. Suppose you have a game with very few PRs. If there is someone who town is clearly better off without, then you go ahead and risk hitting town. If you have a highly likely scum read you take the shot at them. But you don't screw town over by shooting someone you think is town. And you don't take a wild shot if you don't really have any strong reads.

This game is a lot more like role madness. It's actively bad for town to take a vig or venge shot unless you're really sure it benefits town. You have a

100% chance of hitting a PR

in this game. (*) Well, it's more like a n-shot random phase JOAT, but still everyone is a PR of some sort...

I do not think we should assume anything about Jackel's shot, and I'm going to take a very dim view of anyone trying to push that angle.

Pedit: why do you want to hear from McMenno?

I don't really remember much of his thoughts on anything and I want to hear different takes on recent events.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

well i had a good run guys

i took a two of hearts, i wanted my time in this game to be short bc i wasn't expecting to enjoy it but i ended up having a lot of fun

only important information i can think of that I have to say before i die is that we have 14 diamonds in the deck. i'll type up a readlist tomorrow (though i should double check if i suicide after morning or after the lynch)

[Dunnstral]

I freaking knew it would be giga

[Dunnstral]

2x Suicide [P] You will attempt to commit suicide at the end of this phase. This cannot be roleblocked, however a protection role can save you.

[SpyreX]

I just close my eyes.

[gigabyteTroubadour]

i mean i'm the ideal IC imo

not a threatening enough player to die upon being confirmed (making it a waste), somewhat lynchbaity, but not a complete idiot so being conf is useful

i think at least. plus i gamesolve better when i'm confirmed :/

pedit: ok thank god i have time

pedit 2: spyrex stop i thought you crumbed having it too....... lmfao it could be worse

[gigabyteTroubadour]

OH

Nobody died because maria is the mafia gov and got shot at, and that card also has bulletproof.

what if... the mafia used their factional kill on rb ://

were any vig cards even active yet? people seem to forget how factional kills work

although it'd be interesting to know if scum actually hasn't taken vigs yet

[gigabyteTroubadour]

VOTE: MariaF

Don't really have a better vote at the moment but Maria's scumreads don't make any sense at all

Gerry/Me/Drealmerz off the top of my head

it feels off

[Dunnstral]

I meant jackel's venge kill