In post 11538, Reasonably Rational wrote:Perfect example of scum sitting back and waiting for the tide to turn in their favor before magically showing up with a long post and lots of research to push their mislynch, just at the right time. Like for real. Lynch this scummy shit on the spot. Obviously pre-prepared post coming in just at the right time to push a mislynch and re-direct any suspicion. Scum play 101 by someone who has spent the whole game doing the same kind of thing.
Odd.
This seems to be a perfect descriptor for someone in the game, yes.
It would not be grapes I would select.
Three guesses as to who I think this describes.
Hint: rhymes with "Durr us", while also rhyming with "clicks" and "definitely criminal". All at once.
"Hey mastina get your head in the game."
"Hey, where's the mastina we used to know?"
"I know you're capable of giving more than what you are, mastina."
"Mastina, you're better than this when you actually try."
"Mastina, please actually try here because when you do you can wreck scum."
HEY WELL GUESS WHAT.
WHENEVER I HAVE TRIED I'VE FUCKING WRECKED SCUM.
SirCakez. TWIE.
And now.
WHO DO YOU SUPPOSE IT IS THAT I AM GOING AFTER?
This is literally the mastina Reasonably Rational
asked
me to be. And yet, in spite of this, they are choosing to pretend it's not, simply because they don't like who the target of my attention is.
Mastin; your opinion on the new development that Skybird went out of her way to derail a Twin Wings/Xk alliance the Night before Xk killed skybird with his ability, while having the ability to be immune to all actions when in an alliance?
Do you think this was scum simply trying to search for gems?
Or do you think it was trying to save twin wings?
Why was she still affected by Xk's shot?
Who, precisely, was aware of Xk's role and stress requirements?
Show me exactly you feel is false.
And better yet, show me why! I'll wait.
Rather, if you actually did this (you won't), I would be showing you exactly where he did in fact do those things.
The 'case' against grapes is not based on anything tangible.
Just, "lolscum".
The 'defense' against RR being scum is not based on anything tangible.
Just, "lolno".
So Drixx messaged me because he knows I absolutely relish taking apart really bad posts(and make no mistake, your last few posts are shameful), but unfortunately I'm simply not in the mood to wade that deep into bullshit.
Sorry.
I'll deal with, well, everything tomorrow night possibly. I was actually working on a post earlier today to specifically point out where you're going wrong on your setup speculation(by going through every single flip we've seen so far and everything we know about the setup), but then I realized...if you can't see all this yourself, having me point it out to you isn't going to make you change your mind. It's just going to make you circle the wagons around your pet ideas.
I will, however, take a moment to note one thing: You're comparing this game to Gistou.
Do you know what abilities the anti-town factions had in gistou?
9 members, split over three factions, all three of which could recruit AT LEAST one town, AND the "masonry" could become scum.
If there are only 5+1 scum in this game(which yes, flavorwise makes perfect sense, but you'll recall in SU, I was QUITE adamant about the possibility that Lapis could be scum by flavor, and that STILL HOLDS TRUE HERE), how exactly does that compare to a game which had 9 scum+cult mechanics?
Think about that while I sleep. I'll see tomorrow if you took my response seriously, or with the deliberate misinterpretation you applied to my earlier question about why we would expect Farside to be a threat.
In post 11570, Randomnamechange wrote:VOTE: grapes
still really think RR is town and last scum makes sense as being between the two of them. Will give tfl benefit of the doubt here.
Like.
I really wish you were scum.
Really fucking wish you were scum.
For shit like this.
Which is scumbaggery regardless of alignment.
But I know you aren't, so will pray Magna can keep you in check because an attitude like this can and will fucking lose the game.
In post 11576, grapes wrote:"But they were so town in the hood where they can suck my dick without fear of pissing anyone else off"
-Most of the scum and bad town this game
I could quote any number of grapes posts to say this but this one is a particularly good one.
Because surely if Reasonably Rational is capable of gamesolving this game, they would show it off to the people who are almost their equals in that field, no? And not, say. Someone who has no fucking idea by their own fucking confession how to?
No, actually the flip proves that the paranoia was absolutely not justified. But at this stage I know you aren’t going to ever see that if you aren’t scum. And if you are scum no reason for you to say it wasn’t justified.
In post 11591, Reasonably Rational wrote:We tunneled farside because it was CLEAR to us that she had to be a malevolent third party, period, and we were fighting against two conftown who REFUSED to even consider lynching her.
Yeah.
And you were wrong.
And the two conftown who refused to lynch her were right.
So now, there's two choices, depending on your alignment.
Nut up, admit you were wrong, and eat rope for your mistake, directing the town what to do after it (town),
Or continue to squeal as you get lynched (scum).
You're fucking dead, period, end of discussion, and it's happening today. The question isn't whether that's happening. It's whether that ends the game in a town win or if the game isn't yet solved.
In post 11592, Reasonably Rational wrote:(Wholly unrelated, but I just realized that this game has surpassed Smite as having the most posts of any game on site.)
You're also slow on the uptake since I've known this was the case since page 400--before it happened. I knew it was going to happen, and knew it had happened as it was happening but then again I like records and that page is special to me.
In post 11591, Reasonably Rational wrote:@MOI: A50's ability said any abilities could not fail. It did not specify whether that excluded factional abilities, and based on the verbiage used by the role PM's we've seen, I assume that means factional abilities were also empowered.
That's a pretty bad assumption that makes me wonder why you would just blindly assume such as opposed to asking like I did.
Exactly.
Town!RR would ask every possible question to V.
For those that they couldn't get answered, they'd ask others who might (even
might
) be able to get an answer to ask in their stead.
Not deliberately try to avoid.
Reasonably Rational is being neither reasonable nor rational.
One, not alignment indicative--RR does that regardless of alignment.
Two, where the fuck has that direction led the town? It wasn't them who lynched so much as a single scum. Every push they had made has moved us
In post 11603, grapes wrote:Almost's ability lends more credence to scum not killing and also trying to brew up paranoia on fuzzy if he's town. That's pretty clear.
Like.
Anyone who doesn't get this fact shouldn't be playing this game at this point.
Because it is painfully self-fucking evident.
And literally the only players who knew of this.
Were Almost50, Reasonably Rational, and Thefuzzylogic.
grapes had NO possible way of knowing this.
None
.
So the lynch should be on...one of Almost50, Reasonably Rational, and Thefuzzylogic.
This is, one, a literal fucking scumclaim because trust telling is by definition something which would mean grapes is town,
Two, scumplaining because if RR feels it is legitimate then he sees it as a cheapskate way for grapes to escape the lynch,
And three, the absolute most scumbag thing to accuse someone of, because it is vying for a modkill to further a scum wincon, something which is utterly despicable.
In post 11652, grapes wrote:Mastin; your opinion on the new development that Skybird went out of her way to derail a Twin Wings/Xk alliance the Night before Xk killed skybird with his ability, while having the ability to be immune to all actions when in an alliance? Do you think this was scum simply trying to search for gems? Or do you think it was trying to save twin wings? Why was she still affected by Xk's shot? Who, precisely, was aware of Xk's role and stress requirements?
My opinion: it's completely irrelevant. It literally doesn't matter. I couldn't give a damn.
In post 11654, Reasonably Rational wrote:If there are only 5+1 scum in this game(which yes, flavorwise makes perfect sense, but you'll recall in SU, I was QUITE adamant about the possibility that Lapis could be scum by flavor, and that STILL HOLDS TRUE HERE), how exactly does that compare to a game which had 9 scum+cult mechanics?
Combination of slightly smaller game and singleball.
In post 11576, grapes wrote:"But they were so town in the hood where they can suck my dick without fear of pissing anyone else off"
-Most of the scum and bad town this game
I could quote any number of grapes posts to say this but this one is a particularly good one.
grapes is on fire here.
So you think it's acceptable to make homophobic slurs in a game? My opinion of you just dropped like an anvil. Of all the posts you could have quoted, you quoted nearly the worst, and then praised it. You should be ashamed of yourself.
One, not alignment indicative--RR does that regardless of alignment.
Two, where the fuck has that direction led the town? It wasn't them who lynched so much as a single scum. Every push they had made has moved us
further away from
lynching scum.
Specious and bullshit argument since we were onto SC early and in particular I spent time forcing him to interact and then got him to basically word spew shit his pants when I said he had waved the white flag. Furthermore, I had my eyes on TWIE before anyone else in the game. I believe as early as day 3 I was making a note (I believe to A50) to watch and see if TWIE pounced and engaged and to go after him hard if he didn't by a certain deadline. That's not even in question. You can't just make shit up because people can go look, even in a game approaching 12,000 posts.
This is, one, a literal fucking scumclaim because trust telling is by definition something which would mean grapes is town,
Two, scumplaining because if RR feels it is legitimate then he sees it as a cheapskate way for grapes to escape the lynch,
And three, the absolute most scumbag thing to accuse someone of, because it is vying for a modkill to further a scum wincon, something which is utterly despicable.
Fuck off with that bullshit. I don't angleshoot as scum and you know it. The definition of a trust tell is using confirmable self-meta for gain. I'm particularly sensitive to someone saying "I never bus" because it came up in a (fairly) recent game I modded. Logically it's not a moddable offense (albeit just barely) because just because a person has not bussed in the past (or no evidence of it can be found), it does not mean they have not done so in the current game.
It
IS
; however, really fucking dirty play. It's the same thing as a trust tell, especially if one can find all of his alts and takes the time to check all of his games and finds that he's never ever voted for a teammate as scum. That would make him unlynchable in THIS game, even if he's scum and bussed the shit out of people.
So how about you fuck off before you come after me about ethics, when you're openly cheering on homophobic posts, yeah?
Just conveying the info I received on my inbox though. It doesn't change much to me. My one and only acceptable lynch of the day is grapes, then if the game doesn't end Shiro comes into consideration.
In post 11666, mastin2 wrote:My opinion: it's completely irrelevant. It literally doesn't matter. I couldn't give a damn.
Well you should because I think that it confirms scum within a50/RR.
@A50/RR
- When Xk claimed his role to you guys did he claim it as an event or just a regular action? And Almost when you relayed the info did you specify which it was?
Just conveying the info I received on my inbox though. It doesn't change much to me. My one and only acceptable lynch of the day is grapes, then if the game doesn't end Shiro comes into consideration.
There's 6 of those red dudes right.
How do you figure there's 7 threats to earth?
You sheeped fuzzy saying that my being inactive pointed to me being scum (which is verifiably false).
You tried positing some weird thing about twie confirming skybird as scum, proven false.
You thought you were redirected based on a wording thing and that somehow meant I was scum, also proven false.
