Micro 666 - The Last Tryout [Game over - night 5]

[Parama]

i don't know my alignment yet so i can't confirm lol where would PTs be if i had one

[Parama]

shos next time can you do things the old fashioned way in role pms lol
for now i'm just going to assume i'm scum with Pine until told otherwise

[Parama]

i see, so i was right.
/confirm

@Pine who are we killing tonight

[Parama]

'cause he sucks? :V
good a reason as any

[Parama]

VOTE: Parama

baa

[Parama]

i see, so i was right.
/confirm

@Pine who are we killing tonight

Pine please answer this

[Parama]

I'm trying to kill myself can't you see
You still have to send in a night kill after I'm lynched though
And shos never gave me permission to see our PT

[Parama]

Ok, I'll explain my vedith vote. It's because the capital letter and period seemed out of character for vedith who is usually silly.

VOTE: vedith

scum #1

VOTE: Parama

gl Pine

[Parama]

i'm memeing

i also have to keep in mind that 4 of you 7 dorks are scum

[Parama]

i'm going to like actually read the game now

Who can guess why I voted vedith?

i don't care because it was rvs
but this makes you look really awkward

[Parama]

Who can guess why I voted vedith?

For ninjaing you in being second?

^this is scum though
why are you playing along with this at all

[Parama]

Ok, I'll explain my vedith vote. It's because the capital letter and period seemed out of character for vedith who is usually silly.

VOTE: vedith

scum #1

VOTE: Parama

gl Pine

ahh, right, infinity is def scum too.
on a different team than BNL, as well

[Parama]

vedith actually comes off as pretty town thus far, i'm surprised but not disappointed

[Parama]

VOTE: Tenshi

Last person to confirm is a given scumtell

justifying an rvs vote = scum #3

[Parama]

VOTE: Shadowwez

For being hypocritical in 8.

this is a thousand times worse than your previous scummy post lol
VOTE: BNL

ez 100% scumflip right here

[Parama]

I literally see nothing AI in this post so your going to have to explain that.

he's playing along with infinity's dumb game for no good reason
infinity's dumb game is awkward but not really alignment indicative but BNL had literally no reason to make this post as town

[Parama]

can we do a pregame quickwagon?
VOTE: Parama

forgot to mention, this gives me townvibes.

tenshii is probscum by poe.

[Parama]

What if scum could actually self kill? o_0

ahh okay this is really awkward/forced, feel better about putting tenshii in the scum pile now

[Parama]

so as it stands:

BNL and Infinity are scum on different teams
Tenshii and Shadow are scum on different teams

Pine is nullish
Gamma is slightly town
Vedith is p. town

game solved y'all can go home
here's who you wanna crosskill tonight scum have fun

[Parama]

yeah i quoted my own post where i called infinity scum, sup

[Parama]

out of all the posts i've made, that's the one you focus on lol, what

[Parama]

VOTE: Shadowwez

For being hypocritical in 8.

this is a thousand times worse than your previous scummy post lol
VOTE: BNL

ez 100% scumflip right here

That was obviously my RVS vote

doesn't have the tone of an rvs vote tbh

[Parama]

VOTE: Tenshi

Last person to confirm is a given scumtell

justifying an rvs vote = scum #3

That can't be serious, ccan it?

again, it's the tone/awkwardness of the post

[Parama]

And that contradicts what you've said earlier.

in what way.
i said infinity's game by itself was null.
his stupid reason comes off as forced

I'm now questioning my townread on you, and am really starting to see you as scum.

i'd care about you omgusing, but i don't really care about scum's read on me tbh, so, sure.

vote me if you think that.

[Parama]

very matter-of-fact, down to actually linking the post in question you have issue with.
i don't see why you would do that for a joke. it sounds like you absolutely mean what you're saying, if you go out of your way to point people at the post you're criticizing.

[Parama]

Then you should have said that earlier in 68.

ok hon

[Parama]

they are serious

[Parama]

[Parama]

bullet see the way you're posting right now is pandering to my argument

you're validating it by fixating on it so much

[Parama]

[Parama]

it comes off as really awkward to justify an rvs vote like that and is generally more likely to come from scum, so, yes

i only have one scumread i can lynch today and spoilers i don't think it's gonna be you unless you really want it
but i figure i should have my scumreads out in the open for when both scum target me tonight and i die

[Parama]

where did i ever say you two were scum buddies

[Parama]

that is literally something i have never said.
but now i'm very seriously considering that you two -are- scumbuddies and you just slipped lol

[Parama]

speak for yourself, i'm still regarding the vote as serious because BNL has done a metric load of backpedaling and fixating on that one point just to try and convince me it isn't

[Parama]

you bring up a really bloody good point though.

shadow.

you didn't make a single assertion in that entire post. you just asked a bunch of questions without putting any effort into interpreting things or coming to conclusions.

i gain absolutely nothing by reading through that post. i have no idea what your reads are. i have no clue who you suspect. i have no clue what you find scummy or towny.

it's kind of like, you're not scumhunting, but trying to give off the illusion that you are by asking a lot of questions

[Parama]

because town don't have to fake anything and scum do

[Parama]

VOTE: Parama

I think Parama's reasons for voting BNL are more NAI than scummy.

Elaborate.

[Parama]

So
Parama - very scum

Parama - I'm never buying that he thinks my RVS vote was serious. Any townie would easily realise that it was an RVS vote.

you are aware at this point that i have plenty of other reasons why i think you're scum other than "an RVS vote that reads serious", right?

[Parama]

Nothing much of value happened while I was asleep, which is to say, why isn't there a lynch yet.

[Parama]

i can't even be bothered to wait, we have four scum to barrel through, might as well knock one of them out asap

[Parama]

no vedith I'm really bored and impatient

[Parama]

blood for the blood god

[Parama]

Vedith get in here and hammer

[Parama]

I say words as scum

[Parama]

Why is BNL still alive

[Parama]

Gamma I can see as possible scum but BNL is 100% scum

[Parama]

Gamma come in and hammer

[Parama]

No tbh i want a scum flip

[Parama]

I'm really having trouble determining if infinity is just bad or is actually scum tbh

[Parama]

wheeeeeere's the mod

[Parama]

VOTE: Infinity

choo choo i'm 100% sure i got shot last night after that powerlynch and irdc
like orange team would be insane to not shoot me last night so i'm basically confirmed town since there were no deaths

[Parama]

so as it stands:

BNL and Infinity are scum on different teams
Tenshii and Shadow are scum on different teams

Pine is nullish
Gamma is slightly town
Vedith is p. town

game solved y'all can go home
here's who you wanna crosskill tonight scum have fun

let's just follow this post all the way to endgame tbh

[Parama]

i'm calling tenshii for BNL's buddy btw, shadow probably wouldn't bus on a quickwagon like that and i don't think both bnl + infinity would pile on the same person on day 1

so yeah @red scum you need to shoot tenshii tonight thanks

[Parama]

honestly vca pretty much locks tenshii as the other orange scum and infinity is obvscum so i'm only really interested in solidifying that second red scum slot

[Parama]

i just remembered, red scum could've easily just blocked orange scum last night since orange only has one person to kill with and has no roleblocking power of their own
so maybe there was only one shot

that'd be ideal for us tbh but we still need to lynch red today either way because red scum 100% did get off a shot and someone's hit and they know who and if we lynch orange scum tenshii today it's lylo tomorrow

[Parama]

Well unless red scum get lucky and shoot the maximum of 2 non-BPs there are, no it's not lylo tomorrow if we hit orange scum. That said, we still better go for the red.

Red scum knows exactly which BP is hit because they shot them :V

[Parama]

if we lynch orange scum today and there is a kill tonight it will be lylo because 5 people alive & 2 scum

[Parama]

okay gonna be honest not comfortable with there being a L-1 right now lol i'm going to sleep and i wanna at least have a chance to reread today
UNVOTE:

[Parama]

@vedith: lynching obvious orange tenshiii is literally the worst play today. i'd rather lynch town than the other orange scum. but ideally we get redscum today

[Parama]

i think you're the last orange because of vca mostly tbh

[Parama]

i want to do it even less now since the way you asked that question screams scum

[Parama]

The fact that I'd rather lynch my scumreads over myself screams scum?

No, the way you're trying to get me to lynch your scumreads without providing me any reason why is what screamed scum

Don't ask me abut lynching them, tell me why I should otherwise it just looks like you're trying to deflect

[Parama]

Gamma I don't think both orange scum would pile on the same person which is why I am almost positive tenshii is the other orange

[Parama]

I could actually entertain shadow being town though, he's basically clear of being orange scum

There's almost 100% one scum in infinity and Shadow tho

[Parama]

VOTE: Infinity

[Parama]

this will always happen when you give me a hammer on a scumread tbh

[Parama]

also I'm probably gonna die tonight regardless of this flip so make sure to get tenshii if there's only one red scum left tomorrow (or if there are none)

ftr part of scum not wanting to bus in this game is that bnl was the rb and that's too valuable for scum to lose so early

[Parama]

If you're town I'm fairly certain in a shadow/gamma red team no worries

[Parama]

fair enough I guess

so it's just incentive to not bus ever then

[Parama]

Where's the mod tho

[Parama]

not tenshii tbh

shadowez is nearly confirmed redscum so the last is between gamma/vedith? hmm.

on the flipside i'm convinced redscum knows who the other orangescum is and has been blocking them

[Parama]

lack of kills

[Parama]

yep, was waiting for that one from you zzz

[Parama]

why am I alive? I wonder. For the wifom? Lol.

[Parama]

yeah tbh if you're not scum this game is lost anyways
VOTE: shaddowez

[Parama]

vedith is probably scum tbh his lurking is weird

[Parama]

btw orange scum:

it's actually in your best interests to claim today
my money is on red already knowing you
we aren't gonna lynch you today anyways

(that means you tenshii)

[Parama]

i'm going to take the lack of a quickhammer 7 hours later to signify that this is right and i'm voting red

[Parama]

well tenshii is orange so irdc about him

vedith's the only one who hasn't been online i guess
you scum with vedith? i kinda doubt it but i prob should be rereading this game at some point too so

[Parama]

shos next time can you do things the old fashioned way in role pms lol
for now i'm just going to assume i'm scum with Pine until told otherwise

VOTE: Parama
Lies and balderdash

/confirm

VOTE: Parama

can we do a pregame quickwagon?
VOTE: Parama

of these three tenshii's looks the worst
but again, he's basically confirmed orange scum

gamma's looks town tbh

[Parama]

VOTE: Tenshi

Last person to confirm is a given scumtell

lawl yeah my vote is fantastic, prob should've lynched this before infinity but owell

[Parama]

VOTE: Shadowwez

For being hypocritical in 8.

Parama is probably town.

Did Tenshii just scum claim in 25?

Tenshii didn't even post that

this is why shadow is red and tenshii is orange

or at least part of it

[Parama]

VOTE: Shadowwez

For being hypocritical in 8.

Parama is probably town.

Bolded is ridiculous. There's absolutely not enough evidence to have this kind of confidence. Not sure if this is buddying or overconfident scum.

VOTE: BulletNLynchproof

Out of RVS.

I can see why someone might make a comment like that, but I don't feel the reasoning I expect is enough to make a statement on Parama's alignment.

VOTE: Shadowwez

For being hypocritical in 8.

Parama is probably town.

Bolded is ridiculous. There's absolutely not enough evidence to have this kind of confidence. Not sure if this is buddying or overconfident scum.

VOTE: BulletNLynchproof

Out of RVS.

Overconfidence? Where did you get that from?

Townread of Parama comes from his self vote which brings himself to L-2. With the plurality lynching, this could be a death sentence for him if no one ever gets to L-1.

I feel that your attack is a bit exaggerated here.

That's quite WIFOMy. They're obviously memeing.

Who can guess why I voted vedith?

For ninjaing you in being second?

^this is scum though
why are you playing along with this at all

I literally see nothing AI in this post so your going to have to explain that.

eeuuuggh these interactions are all gross, gamma might actually be orange scum... :s
goddammit why does everything have to be complicated

[Parama]

BNL is worried about what Parama is saying there. Maybe Parama is right.

crap, yeah, nvm sorry tenshii you're not orange scum

this would've been a vote if gamma was town, and it's not.
gamma comes off as really reluctant to bus here

[Parama]

tenshii is probably redscum then...
bnl/gamma + shadow/tenshii? i'll try to pay attention to these

[Parama]

i had such a good day 1 and then i got lazy day 2, sigh

stroking my own ego but page 4 is the funniest i've been in a while

[Parama]

Did Tenshii just scum claim in 25?

Huh? That's a mod post....

oooohh this supports that theory quite well. why would shadow care about this as town.

[Parama]

So, riddle me this (and yes, I'm aware this may be WIFOM-y, but I'm still curious on your thoughts). Why do you think BNL would draw attention to that post if we were scum buddies? I have additional questions, but want answers to this one first.

P-Edit:

It may be self-meta, but feel free to look at my game history. I do that in pretty much every game. Honestly, I've seen it less in this game than I have in most other games I've been in.

where did i ever say you two were scum buddies

that is literally something i have never said.
but now i'm very seriously considering that you two -are- scumbuddies and you just slipped lol

goddammit i forgot about this exchange

why does everyone look like potential BNL partners except vedith? ugh
I still think gamma's the most likely partner but this is pretty bad too
i could see it from redscum who can tell BNL is flipping orange though

[Parama]

unrelated to anything but this song is my freaking jam atm it's so good ahah

[Parama]

This seems better than leaving a meme vote.
VOTE: BNL

yeah, this was so late after dancing around BNL for so long. the reluctant bus on the sinking ship.

[Parama]

i don't know why i'm discussing anyone else atm when shadowez is basically confscum in my eyes but here i am.

i wanna make this easier to sort tomorrow, which we are definitely having btw since shadow is redscum

[Parama]

you bring up a really bloody good point though.

shadow.

you didn't make a single assertion in that entire post. you just asked a bunch of questions without putting any effort into interpreting things or coming to conclusions.

i gain absolutely nothing by reading through that post. i have no idea what your reads are. i have no clue who you suspect. i have no clue what you find scummy or towny.

it's kind of like, you're not scumhunting, but trying to give off the illusion that you are by asking a lot of questions

also this, yeah, spot on past-me

god, i should've reread, i'd deffo have lynched shadow before infinity if i did

[Parama]

VOTE: Parama

I think Parama's reasons for voting BNL are more NAI than scummy.

GOD FREAKING DAMMIT YOU GUYS YOU AND GAMMA CAN'T BOTH BE BNL'S PARTNER SO WHY ARE YOU BOTH SO OBVIOUSLY BNL'S PARTNER AUGHAHAGH

[Parama]

127 is another great argument for shadow not being orange scum so i'm preeeetty damn freaking confident we're getting a redflip today

[Parama]

Gamma - At first his staying off my wagon while implying he was scumreading me seemed like scum hedging. Then he ended up voting me, so that isn't scummy, but his unannounced L-1 is.

LOL NVM GAMMA'S REDSCUM AGAIN

BNL CALLED YOU OUT FOR THE SAME THING I DID LOL

[Parama]

you know, past the point where we lynch redscum today, it doesn't matter which scum we lynch after that, and shadow is redscum, so, you know, screw it. i'm done trying to sort who's red and who's orange. i just wanna get shadow today. that's like 100% red scumflip right there

[Parama]

Gamma come in and hammer

Not yet.
Don't you want more time to discuss?

No tbh i want a scum flip

Mkay.
VOTE: BNL

god does this hammer suck in retrospect.

aughaughaugh
no.
i said i'm done sorting this when we have redscum in shadow

[Parama]

VOTE: Gamma

I have to go back and reread for details, but I know I didn't like him D1, and the unannounced L-1 of Infinity today, especially 12 minutes after his "dodge" post (192), bothers me greatly.

christ, there goes my gamma/shadow theory.

mmf. whatevs.

[Parama]

vedith is like a collective townread which on one hand worries me in a game like this but on the other hand

I

townread him

[Parama]

He's probably not red because if I were orange, he'd be my number one target.

With or without this reasoning, I don't get why Parama can't be red.

I also think that if you guys are all so bent on me being last orange because I attacked Parama, it would be better to lynch me today. I think if we're going to mislynch then it has to be today. I still think I was right. No one reallly refuted my 117. The only rebuttal was Inifinity pointing out how BNL was scumread because of tone, which I cannot see.

crap, this is actually pretty town

[Parama]

hmmmmmm

hmm

...

hmmmmmmmm.

i know i'm throwing a lot of theories around here but a vedith/shadow team isn't out of the question... i need read them together after i catch up

[Parama]

So we need to find a red scum today, or it's a loss.
I want everyone to state who they want to lynch today. My pick is shaddow.

okay yeah gamma/shadow team isn't making a ton of sense when he could go for the win today.

[Parama]

tenshii is the only one who's reeeally given off a strong towntell fmpov and i am really not sure about lynching him now. but then i don't know who else could be BNL's partner

[Parama]

So, I'm actually starting to think that Parama may be scum. Re-reading early D1, it looks like his joking around was a bit overdone. It also leaves room for "I was joking" if any of it got pushed. Him "buddying" with

Pine

also makes it seem like he knew they weren't on the same team, so whether Pine was town or the other scum team didn't matter. He pushed the Infinity lynch, and then specifically wants to avoid the Tenshii wagon in 275 for the Infinity wagon. Posts 299 and 313 give me scum vibes, especially since there's no reason for him to be alive considering how widely town read he is.

can we talk about how this is basically a scumclaim though?
for one, it's wifomy as heck.
-joking could be overdone (and isn't just a part of my personality)
-buddying with pine because we're "on different teams" (or because he gave off pretty great townvibes throughout d1 and d2)
-he's still alive so he must be scum (or, pine was more on-point than me and just as widely townread, so scum shot him instead) (OR, scum left me alive for this WIFOM reason in particular)

for two he's being incredibly dense
we all know why i didn't want to lynch tenshii. he was the best fit for BNL's buddy (and still kinda is tbh) and lynching orange scum was the worst possible play because it guaranteed a d3 lylo for redscum. this is obvious. this was discussed.
and dude there is literally no scum motivation in 299 and you can't possibly justify it. why would i post that as scum. it's a post that can literally only help town.

it's just such an awful post on every level and between it and shadow's pretty cruddy history i'm 100% assured in him flipping scum

[Parama]

i also really don't see vedith-gamma being a team

and if they are they could quickhammer so yeeeaahh

[Parama]

possible orange teams:
BNL - Vedith: doubt it
BNL - Gamma: possible
BNL - Shadow: doubt it
BNL - Tenshii: possible

possible red teams:
Vedith - Gamma: doubt it
Vedith - Shadow: possible
Vedith - Tenshii: doubt it
Gamma - Shadow: doubt it
Gamma - Tenshii: possible
Shadow - Tenshii: could go either way i guess

food for thought

[Parama]

I always forget I can never read Vedith. Can anyone explain why they're town reading him, outside of PoE?

Another scum.

1 to go.

Would you like a shaddow lynch better? He's probably scum too

I'll lynch either of you today.

I suggest trying to hit from the 2-scum team, I think 50% winrate is our best shot

So we lynch you/shadow?

i think you're the last orange because of vca mostly tbh

Also the fact that Infinity and Shadow are obvious scum pair.

this stands out to me, vedith has called shadow scum quite a few times but has never actually put any pressure on the slot.
and reading through shadow's iso he basically avoids giving any read on vedith at all. they vaguely interact occasionally but i see no attempt from shadow to determine vedith's alignment and i see no justification for vedith scumreading shadow, it's just an empty read

i am actually pretty happily sitting on my theory of shadow/vedith now. the pieces fit together well.

[Parama]

i could see either of gamma/tenshii being the other orange scum right now but gamma doesn't make sense as scum with either shadow or vedith really and tenshii only vaguely makes sense with shadow

and while i do have gamma+tenshii listed as "possible" there, i really, honestly, don't believe that's the case. there's just nothing strong enough i found to deny the possibility, but also nothing to suggest it either

[Parama]

anyways i feel uncomfortable leaving my vote on in lylo overnight even if it's on scum, so
UNVOTE:

will place this back in the morning

[Parama]

well i'll work it all out at some point anyways and shadow is today's lynch, so

VOTE: Shadow

[Parama]

any lingering paranoia has fully dissipated with the complete silence of everyone in this thread

[Parama]

gamma and shadow posting plenty elsewhere onsite while not posting here just fyi

[Parama]

hi, nice of you to show up just now right after i called you out

[Parama]

again, if you -are- orange scum it's in your best interests to claim today, btw

[Parama]

oh yeah btw if tomorrow turns out to be 1:1:1 (which is not unlikely) then NL immediately, no discussion whatsoever

[Parama]

oh right

uhh how is this remotely balanced for town at all then lol

@Mod: if there are 0 players alive who wins

[Parama]

as far as i'm reading the town wincon, town should win since there are no threats left alive

neither mafia can fulfill their wincon in a 1v1 because neither are the last faction standing

[Parama]

so never mind the last townie should just lynch themselves i think?
i mean if you can't NL it's town autoloss lol which is really bad setup design

[Parama]

because if they get lynched today they lose

& town loses too

[Parama]

gamma tenshii redteam confirmed "not a thing" btw

[Parama]

it's lylo, everyone is in danger of being lynched

[Parama]

same

gg scum win

[Parama]

tenshii obv

[Parama]

shos where are you give us endgame

[Parama]

but in the end it doesn't even matter

[Parama]

yeah I've been rbing you last two nights so it was p. easy to figure out you were orange

[Parama]

anyways this gambit has served its purposes well. vedith obviously knows it's not gg and is probably redscum and I got orange scum to claim like I wanted so let's end this farce, we all know shadow is scum and flipping red that was obv as heck lol, tenshii would've hammered if he was red and shadow wasn't

good night all, if tomorrow is 1:1:1 then the sole townie should self vote immediately

even if the other scum refuse to lynch them that will force plurality lynch at deadline and result in a 3-way tie (btw thanks for making this game a strong argument against plurality lynches shos)

[Parama]

dear vedith: you know gamma is orange scum 100%, shoot him tonight or you can't win
dear gamma: shoot vedith tonight because you've already lost and you might as well take red down with you

yw

[Parama]

I'm so mad lol I was waiting for someone to correct me about scum being red and they never did

Tenshii's selfvote makes him conftown in my eyes and gamma is confirmed orange so my vedith red theory was right, good, even if it's actually greenscum lol

[Parama]

I think you may be right too tenshii unless vedith meme'd and blocked gamma instead of killing but otherwise yeah

scum p. much have to crosskill for us to win of either of them hit bps last night

how the hell is this in any way balanced lol

[Parama]

actually no we can't just lynch you vedith will probably meme again and force a kingmaker because he knows if he kills then gamma will kill him too

it's a really crappy situation for everyone tbh and a huge flaw in the setup, the rbs probably shouldn't be there in the first place but neither should the NL rule, that's especially awful

[Parama]

tenshii can you come and unvote for the moment? I think optimal play is to lynch vedith and even then that relies on either both of us being unhit or gamma not knowing who is hit (likely, I maintain the belief that vedith blocked him all three nights)

lynching you is pretty much autoloss for town though so let's avoid ding that

[Parama]

Vedith is just gonna roleblock gamma again lol that's 0% odds

[Parama]

Like I'm almost positive he already did so last night because he knows he loses if he doesn't. I think the odds are high neither of us are hit and higher that gamma doesn't know who to hit even if one of us is hit

[Parama]

a tie is better than a loss

that's what vedith is playing to

[Parama]

your self lynch is literally playing to tie over playing to win, can you stop

[Parama]

let me put it this way: I'd rather lose while trying to win than accept a draw by not trying at all

[Parama]

VOTE: Vedith

c'mon now guys this isn't hard
@tenshii no offense but you're making the dumbest possible move right now and it's pissing me off. join this. stop caring about the possibility of losing because a draw isn't any better and this way we actually, y'know, have a chance at all
@gamma you should get in on this because by tenshii's strategy you at best get a draw and probably a loss, whereas this is the only way you can possibly win
@vedith stop memeing

[Parama]

literally screw off with that crap, do you think shadow's garbage push on me yesterday was bussing

please ignore vedith, tenshii, since he's scum

[Parama]

this is, quite literally, the exact same play shadow tried to make.

he was scum

also scum have literally no incentive to bus on lylo

[Parama]

like this is seriously just pathetic now

[Parama]

tenshii can you come and unvote for the moment? I think optimal play is to lynch vedith and even then that relies on either both of us being unhit or gamma not knowing who is hit (likely, I maintain the belief that vedith blocked him all three nights)

lynching you is pretty much autoloss for town though so let's avoid ding that

[Parama]

also we literally can't no lynch, just fyi

[Parama]

Again: this time a no-lynch can NOT happen.

zzzz
vedith if you're town then tenshii's plan works the same regardless of whether we lynch you or him right?

i mean, you're not town, but. for the sake of the argument.

[Parama]

yes we can, it's easy.

we lynch you (the red mafia roleblocker)
and then we hope gamma fails to kill tonight (which i think there are good odds of)

for the record i pick you over gamma as gamma likely hasn't gotten a shot off all game, is my guess
where as i -know- you've gotten off at least two shots

[Parama]

gamma come in here and vote vedith please, it's the only way you can win

[Parama]

i'm not even entertaining your wifom tbh

[Parama]

sigh

this setup is so not balanced at all lol

[Parama]

hmm.

so you probably shot infinity n1. and gamma shot pine.

then gamma shot someone ??? n2 and you shot pine (i don't think he'd shoot the same person twice since his goal is to find scum but what do i know)

maybe lynching gamma is the better play

[Parama]

like seriously the inability to no lynch only makes this even harder for the town because this would be a much better scenario if we could NL

[Parama]

i think y'all are trying to balance this 33:33:33 or whatever but you should be going for 50:25:25 because a "balanced" setup is always going to be scumsided as heck

there will be enough setup creep in the latter case to where it could realistically be anyone's game but right now it's like 20:40:40 or worse for the town in the current incarnation

[Parama]

I think 5 town would make this a lot more balanced personally.

5 town + no lynch allowed + no roleblockers

[Parama]

UNVOTE: for now

i'd rather you + shadow win over gamma + lolman tbh but i also dunno if i can trust you

[Parama]

yeah i didn't really figure it out until i went over his interactions with BNL, could've had an easy game d2 too but i wasn't trying very hard ohwell

[Parama]

kill me irl
VOTE: Gamma

whatever

vedith, tenshii, get on this before gamma comes in and hammers omg

[Parama]

[Parama]

i'll take personal delight in that i called both of the scumteams after my read d3 but other than that let's all collectively forget this game happened

[Parama]

VOTE: Parama

nobody

[Parama]

This game was so pointless lol

[Parama]

I was orange scum all along

[Parama]

I was the red scum all along

[Parama]

I was the mod all along

[Parama]

shos, 1-shot BP, survives and wins!

gg bastard mod

[Parama]

too late

[Parama]

I really don't want BNL to win

[Parama]

welcome to the meme squad shos

[Parama]

well, i didn't "lose"

[Parama]

@BNL you were obvscum don't get mad at me for you being obvscum lol

[Parama]

you also learned: never claim scum until the mod flips

[Parama]

i mean, that's where it started

your reactions sealed the deal

[Parama]

i mean let's be fair

i kinda had already figured out all the scum before the gambit, that just basically sealed the deal

[Parama]

i didn't even lie about tenshii being my buddy, either :V

also pine you had the honor of being the only person nightkilled all game, grats

[Parama]

lolno
town being unable to win after a single mislynch is unbalanced no matter how you wanna justify it

[Parama]

the rb being able to force no crosskills was the worst

[Parama]

if the rbs were one or two shots it'd be ok