Open 662: Fire and Ice (Game Over)

[Joshz]

VOTE: bk

if this is how ss usually plays bk is a better lynch but ss def isnt anywehre near cleared

[light_ganski]

Official Vote Count 2.1

BK201 (2)

- Io, Joshz

Rory (2)

- BK201, Transcend

Not Voting (8)

- Gamma Emerald, Kmd4390, Rory, SnarkySnowman, Not_Mafia, Realeo, culted, Aristophanes

With 12 players alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch

You have (expired on 2017-01-04 17:20:51) until deadline.

[Transcend]

VOTE: bk201

i don't exactly know the odds of this being a hit or not but eh i haven't been wowed by this slot's performance this game.

[Transcend]

KMDnumbers is someone i wanna reread but not right now since he walled a lot. IIRC though i found him a little bit fishy.

[Not_Mafia]

Clearly I was the target for both NKs because epeen

[Transcend]

lol why would scum kill you

even if you're doctor you'd save one of them

;D

[Kmd4390]

Vote Snark

I'll read up later. Doing Christmas stuff now

[Transcend]

VOTE: Kmd4390

[Kmd4390]

Grinch

[BK201]

VOTE: bk201

i don't exactly know the odds of this being a hit or not but eh i haven't been wowed by this slot's performance this game.

From town!Transcend's pov the odds are 33.33%.

[Gamma Emerald]

That's p funny

[BK201]

VOTE: BK

Yeah he's fairly obvious Mafia now especially considering he is now saying he was the night kill.

Considering the possibility that I was the NK is scummy? By that logic Transcend is scum too but I don't see you mentioning him. That's about as good as your fear-lynch on me.

Io does not seem to be genuinely scumhunting, just tunneling on me and doesn't even have a case/gut on me. It's fear-lynch turned possible conf bias. Or scum being lazy. FOS Io. Would vote you but Rory is still scummier.

[BK201]

Transcend throwing his votes everywhere seems to be his town meta, or is it his anything meta?

[Gamma Emerald]

Transcend throwing his votes everywhere seems to be his town meta, or is it his anything meta?

Everything I guess
tbh I think Trans may be town rn

[Joshz]

you werent the night kill lmao

transcend is just being el trollito

[BK201]

Transcend throwing his votes everywhere seems to be his town meta, or is it his anything meta?

Everything I guess
tbh I think Trans may be town rn

Why do you think so?

[BK201]

you werent the night kill lmao

transcend is just being el trollito

It's very possible, especially if Rory is scum. Nobody was trying as hard to lynch him as I was. Also with Io trying to fear-lynch me, maybe that intimidated both factions haha.

[Gamma Emerald]

Transcend throwing his votes everywhere seems to be his town meta, or is it his anything meta?

Everything I guess
tbh I think Trans may be town rn

Why do you think so?

You mentioned meta, and I remembered a meta evaluation I did for another game, and felt this is his town play based on that

[Not_Mafia]

you werent the night kill lmao

transcend is just being el trollito

You sound very certain, something you'd like to share?

[BK201]

Transcend throwing his votes everywhere seems to be his town meta, or is it his anything meta?

Everything I guess
tbh I think Trans may be town rn

Why do you think so?

You mentioned meta, and I remembered a meta evaluation I did for another game, and felt this is his town play based on that

I would greatly appreciate it if you quote that meta evaluation post from the other game. I've been trying to figure out Transcend since I saw him on the playerlist.

[Io]

At this point it's not even a fear lying. You are actually just being scummy now.
You're just taking my argument and vote and just laughing at it rather than trying to do anything remotely pro town.
You also say Im tunneling but not scum reading. You can't just fence sit like that, fucking call me scum if you're going to do it rather than just ignoring and brushing me off.

[Joshz]

you werent the night kill lmao

transcend is just being el trollito

You sound very certain, something you'd like to share?

i am moderately sure the kill was rory. possibly myself. the reason it wasnt bk is because a) lots of people had openly scum read him, b) to use his reasons i both went after rory significantly harder than him and b) scum doesnt always kill who scum reads them. if i were scum id want to kill other scum as fast as possible, and i brought that up in the thread intentionally. i wanted to direct a scum kill to my by far strongest scum read, and it was a genuine read so hopefully it read genuine. it was win win, because either rory died and bye bye scum or rory was town and both teams decided to do town a favor and confirm one of us.

im definitely not some all powerful god of mafia (lol), and i completely get its possible i wasnt able to sway both scum kills. HOWEVER, mathematically, nobody else was an obvious kill. at least one of the teams LIKELY wouldve taken the bait, and rory wouldve flipped even if the other kill was doc'd. i read through this thread as objectively as possible and not a single kill stuck out besides rory, and while its more than possible a scum team wouldve attempted to kill someone for some reason we as town are unaware of (reads, personal fear because some SCARY PEOPLE like transcend are itg, whatever), it is mathematically very unlikely both scum teams wouldve had the same thought.

what im saying is rory was almost definitely the target and now im town reading him. not conf town, but enough that im not lynching him today

[Realeo]

I don't get the linear thinking of Josh.

Let me get this straight.

"Scum listens to you so they shoot rory?"

Isn't there something called WIFOM?

[Realeo]

I mean, I will townread that for your naiveness, but alignment aside, your naiveness is bothering me.

[Realeo]

And I still don't understant Rory's wagon. I didn't yesterday. I didn't now.