What was so bad about the scumslip thingIn post 751, krylea wrote:I don't like this. There are tons of other roles that could lead to no-results. This could just give scum easy mislynches. This + your "scumslip" thing earlier really make it seem like you are out for excuses to push lynches.In post 748, -Grey- wrote:Since Gamma claimed Ascetic Enabler, any "no results" results should be insta-lynched because the ascetic(s) is/are scum hiding behind the role.
I'm happy returning to my previous vote.
VOTE: Naomi
At this point I think I am convinced enough to drop the Asphodel thing for the moment - though I'd like to revisit it later.
VOTE: Grey
Mini Normal 1862 - Town win.
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Rainbow was being widely townread before her claim.
I have no doubt she thought a fake Miller claim would be believed and earn her more time if she was investigated.“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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So let's work this out hotshot.
She's conf!scum in your eyes, so who are her two partners?
If she is scum, who is she connected with, how are they scum, and how are we forced into a bubble of her against you in a lynch when we can go for the next 2?
That or all this is you pushing a mislynch trying to cause as !much damage before you're lynched tomorrow“To be is to do”—Socrates. “To do is to be”—Jean-Paul Sartre. “Do be do be do”—Frank Sinatra.
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Or simply preempt her investigation.In post 1276, -Grey- wrote:Rainbow was being widely townread before her claim.
I have no doubt she thought a fake Miller claim would be believed and earn her more time if she was investigated.
Ascetic + Miller + x-shot cop? No fucking way.“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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Look at those busting their ass to protect her.In post 1277, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:She's conf!scum in your eyes, so who are her two partners?
Not all scum buses, and there's an unnatural amount of resistance to lynching a Miller claim that also should have believed the cop claim simply by virtue of their own role of it had been a true claim.
You and krylea are invested in keeping her alive.“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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Nah, 1187 shows how I want both of you alive because I actually thought this through.
Also Krylea wants either of you two dead, she doesn't actually care which so I can believe she's scum but not with dash“To be is to do”—Socrates. “To do is to be”—Jean-Paul Sartre. “Do be do be do”—Frank Sinatra.
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In post 1280, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:Nah, 1187 shows how I want both of you alive because I actually thought this through.
Safe posture for scum to adopt.
False. krylea is pushing for my lynch.In post 1280, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote: Also Krylea wants either of you two dead, she doesn't actually care which so I can believe she's scum but not with dash“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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Usually tracker, jk, or VTIn post 844, TwoFace wrote:
Scum usually fake claim day 1 when they get run upIn post 809, Human Sequencer wrote:WHY DOES THIS HAPPEN IN EVERY NORMAL I PLAY IN- Flubbernugget
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If krylea wanted either of us dead, she'd have hammered Dash.
She wants me dead so she can say "oh, maybe it WAS TvT!" on d2 to rationalize not lynching Dash then either.“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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Why would a Miller leap to the conclusion that a cop claim must be fake?In post 1285, Flubbernugget wrote:Fake claiming a pr d1 is suicide though that doesn't make it a particularly bad play“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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Care she does not, a fuck she does not giveIn post 1220, krylea wrote:But like, why are there all these votes on people who aren't Grey or RD? It's pretty clear that's where we are lynching right now, unless someone makes a really, REALLY good case for that being TvT somehow“To be is to do”—Socrates. “To do is to be”—Jean-Paul Sartre. “Do be do be do”—Frank Sinatra.
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Bullshit. Dash would be dead right now if that was true.In post 1288, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:
Care she does not, a fuck she does not giveIn post 1220, krylea wrote:But like, why are there all these votes on people who aren't Grey or RD? It's pretty clear that's where we are lynching right now, unless someone makes a really, REALLY good case for that being TvT somehow“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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This doesn't require a plan at allIn post 868, Gamma Emerald wrote:The reason I am 180ing is because I have a plan for seeing if Grey is really a cop.- -Grey-
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Just keep reading.In post 1293, Flubbernugget wrote:
This doesn't require a plan at allIn post 868, Gamma Emerald wrote:The reason I am 180ing is because I have a plan for seeing if Grey is really a cop.“Trust is an orchid, beautiful but delicate, requiring ideal conditions in order to thrive. Without them, it dies.” - Dahrk (Arrow, Season 4)
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Interestingly I kinda town read what he did as poor as the play was. I would expect scum to be a little more careful with how they voteIn post 875, All Alone wrote:I don't like this either. I don't see a town motive for voting someone, and then immediately following it up with a punch-pull like that. When townies vote, regardless of whether it's for lynching, pressure, information, or even just spite, they usually want that vote to have the maximum possible effect. The immediate punch-pull comes off like Asphodel isn't motivated by any of those things. Scums are mush more happy to avoid getting into a fight, and I think that's exactly why Asphodel worded his Flubber vote this way.- Flubbernugget
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Ascetic VT fucks with cop investigations and doesn't do much moreIn post 883, TheRealGin-N-Tonic wrote:If an ascetic claims, then that means they're a power role. If you're scum and a town ascetic claims, you just directed the scums kill to our power roles.
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Uhhh you should be getting no result on an ascetic not a guiltyIn post 899, -Grey- wrote:
All scum has to do if I get a guilty is claim to be ascetic.In post 897, Gamma Emerald wrote:I think it's best to state my plan.
No ascetics claim. If Grey claims a result on an ascetic he gets lynched.
That's brilliant.
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