Open 664 - Tit for Tat (Mafia Wins)

[Malakittens]

I posted on the first page! So I actually did RVS, but I'm not interested in the fluff stage, but i wasn't actually around.

[Alisae]

What's so confusing about Hawk?

I dunnow what is.
I keep on thinking he's scum.
Then I think he's town.
Then I think he's scum.
I dunno ;~;

[Alisae]

Oh you were. I must be blind then.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

What's so confusing about Hawk?

I dunnow what is.
I keep on thinking he's scum.
Then I think he's town.
Then I think he's scum.
I dunno ;~;

I was hoping you would've pointed to specific posts but I understand.

I'm currently feeling that way with one player in this game so far and it's so frustrating because I want to TR them based on reputation

[Alisae]

Bae, if you think I'm scum then don't go all passive on me.\
Tho don't go to agro, you'll hurt my feelings.
And I'll cry.
And I'll never.
ever.
want to see you again.

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Bae, if you think I'm scum then don't go all passive on me.\
Tho don't go to agro, you'll hurt my feelings.
And I'll cry.
And I'll never.
ever.
want to see you again.

Don't worry babe, you're a fine member of this town

[Kop]

Mala, you were scum, but then you were questioning me like you currently are so I dunno where to put you. Also you weren't around during RVS and was like "Tell me when RVS is over."
Inno said that dumb questions are scummy and that's why I voted him. It's like hes trying to discredit people. And I don't like that.
Hawk I just dunno what to make of his shit so he is null.
Kain is town because no way in hell would scum want the attention he has currently. His typography honestly has nothing to do with it.

Your read on Kain shouldn't resolve down to no scum would want that attention.

Kain plays the same way as town and scum. And I've seen evidence of that. I will dig through my list of games and find it for you, and you compare that game to this game, I don't see any difference. In fact, I'd go as far as saying it's going to be a pain in the arse to figure it out what he is.

[Kop]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=65370

That game Kain was scum. Just with the less capitals.

[Kop]

Mala Null, Scumlean
InnocentVillager Scum.
Hawk Null
Kop town.
Aubrey Town
Kain Town.
Aelin Townlean
Everyone else, null.

It may be me being paranoid but I am suspicious that you only town read me after I've only made 8 posts, and 6 of them were questioning your mentality. Are you trying to pocket me?

[Kop]

dumb questions are scummy

It's not dumb, it's a valid question. We need to find out the correct stance she is taking, because at the moment, we don't know what position she is taking on the whole situation, one minute she is in this camp, then the next post, she's in a different camp.

[Aubrey]

I don't know how much I'll be around today. Happy holidays! I expect activity to be down tomorrow and today. I'd like to see more votes being cast, and not just talk.

Mr. LUV... if you had to place a vote, where would it go? My gut isn't pleased by you so far.

[Spade_Ace]

Kop that's fair.
But sofar I like how he's pressuring Mala. Seems genuine and a town thing to do.
VOTE: Mala

This post stinks of a full 180 turn towards Hawk.

dumb questions are scummy

It's not dumb, it's a valid question. We need to find out the correct stance she is taking, because at the moment, we don't know what position she is taking on the whole situation, one minute she is in this camp, then the next post, she's in a different camp.

I don't have any issues with her vote changes so early in the game. I would be more concerned if she is just sticking to her initial vote and not ready to change as she gets more information. Isn't it too early to talk about 'different camps'.
Her post 201 seems town to me. Scum would not want to look so wavering.

[Spade_Ace]

VOTE: innocentvillager

Not liking his posts so far. They all seem ambiguous.

[Kop]

Kop that's fair.
But sofar I like how he's pressuring Mala. Seems genuine and a town thing to do.
VOTE: Mala

This post stinks of a full 180 turn towards Hawk.

dumb questions are scummy

It's not dumb, it's a valid question. We need to find out the correct stance she is taking, because at the moment, we don't know what position she is taking on the whole situation, one minute she is in this camp, then the next post, she's in a different camp.

I don't have any issues with her vote changes so early in the game. I would be more concerned if she is just sticking to her initial vote and not ready to change as she gets more information. Isn't it too early to talk about 'different camps'.
Her post 201 seems town to me. Scum would not want to look so wavering.

I don't mind the vote changes, but it would be nice to see how or why she has taken different stances, rather than wavering around without any notice.

I find it suspicious when you mention a scum lean on someone to a few posts later town leaning him or at least giving that impression. It's something I've used when I'm scum, pressure a partner, then switch without being noticeable, something that can be pinged back at a later date.

[innocentvillager]

VOTE: innocentvillager

Not liking his posts so far. They all seem ambiguous.

im an attention whore what can i say

[innocentvillager]

dumb questions are scummy

It's not dumb, it's a valid question. We need to find out the correct stance she is taking, because at the moment, we don't know what position she is taking on the whole situation, one minute she is in this camp, then the next post, she's in a different camp.

i dont even know what question you're referring to I'm pretty sure that was just a blanket statement I made after skimming some of the thread

maybe it was in response to why I voted Aubrey? honestly idr

[innocentvillager]

also merry xmas to all you bitches who celebrate <3

[Malakittens]

Hey iv

I'm scum why??

[innocentvillager]

hmm mostly gut

if i were to try to explain it

i think I got a weird vibe from 95 but your explanation in the next post was i guess reasonable
you seem oddly cold/minimalist aggressive-type in the beginning, which is what a lot of scum try to do
also when you posted 95 real discussion was just beginning to arise, so it seemed like you didn't really read later posts/care
your next post 124 or something seemed like a lot of IC-garbage that I would post as an IC which felt unnecessary here since this isn't a newbie, but maybe you're just doing this out of habit and some of these players feel inexperienced in a way
feels like you're trying too hard to "note things that stick out to you but you're not sure why yet", but i don't really see you ever returning to those things that stuck out to you (correct me if im wrong and you did). i like to do this shit as scum bc it makes me seem more organic, but of course they're not so i forget about them and never bring them up again

haven't looked too much into your later posting but it seems fairly neutral from a skim

honestly these are weak and maybe vague reasons esp bc i do some of this as town at times but hey town can scumtell too right

also rereading hawk from early pages makes me weary of that slot. like wtf was that reaction test on alisae? "im voting you Alisae" next post "this is a reaction test alisae, how do you react" like wat. Not scummy but just weirdly not thought out. idk hawk gives me mixed vibes bc he's does scummy unhelpful shit like this but is also towntelling weirdly to some degree

i still think i like alisae for town

will revisit my read on aubrey later

[Kop]

I scumlean you both. I scumlean Mala harder.

Didn't you just say Hawks pressuring on Mala seemed genuine and a town thing to do though...?

@IV I'm assuming your post where you said dumb questions was aimed towards this post.

If it isn't, then it would actually help to see where your posts are aimed at, otherwise it's just fluff with no meaning. It doesn't help.

[innocentvillager]

maybe it was in response to why I voted Aubrey? honestly idr

i think this was part of it

i can try and look back and guess which ones I was looking at and see if you really want me to

[Alisae]

Mala Null, Scumlean
InnocentVillager Scum.
Hawk Null
Kop town.
Aubrey Town
Kain Town.
Aelin Townlean
Everyone else, null.

It may be me being paranoid but I am suspicious that you only town read me after I've only made 8 posts, and 6 of them were questioning your mentality. Are you trying to pocket me?

no

[Crystalline Dagger]

This whole game i have been focused on discerning the scum from the town and trying to improve my player reading skill. Its been kind of hard for me but then i got to post 218 and thought, that is it, there has to be scum between IV and Mala because they wouldnt exchange like that if both were scum and it doesn't make sense if both are town because i then got to post 220 and it made it clear that IV isnt town in my eyes. The way IV shrugs off the suggestion that they make it clear which posts they are responding to looked scummy to me. How can someone just not care about whether or not their posts are clear and understood? How can a town aligned player not care if he makes the town as a whole more confused and in a roundabout way essentially leave the town with less information? For now my vote rests on IV.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: InnocentVillager

I will go through their ISO now that i have a concise read and know how i feel about them.

~Jin~

[Alisae]

Mala, you were scum, but then you were questioning me like you currently are so I dunno where to put you. Also you weren't around during RVS and was like "Tell me when RVS is over."
Inno said that dumb questions are scummy and that's why I voted him. It's like hes trying to discredit people. And I don't like that.
Hawk I just dunno what to make of his shit so he is null.
Kain is town because no way in hell would scum want the attention he has currently. His typography honestly has nothing to do with it.

Your read on Kain shouldn't resolve down to no scum would want that attention.

Kain plays the same way as town and scum. And I've seen evidence of that. I will dig through my list of games and find it for you, and you compare that game to this game, I don't see any difference. In fact, I'd go as far as saying it's going to be a pain in the arse to figure it out what he is.

Kop, it has nothing to do with his typography. He kept on quoting something so that it doesn't go away over and over again. This is what I meant by attention that scum don't want. Tho I dunno if it's really AI or not, it probably isn't.

[Aubrey]

How can someone just not care about whether or not their posts are clear and understood?

Transcend.