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Post Post #550 (ISO) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 6:58 am

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What do you think about shaddowez's last posts?
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Post Post #551 (ISO) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 6:59 am

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In post 530, Human Sequencer wrote:
In post 529, Grendel wrote:
In post 515, Hiraki wrote:
Town will always win as long as they avoid lynching the chosen ones correct? Then who is and isn't chosen is more important then who is scum.

Like in a 5 way lylo with 2 chosen ones, 1 regular town, and two mafia. A long as the chosen town aren't lynched town wins, the regular town being lynched results in town wining because mafia can't endgame the chosen ones together, and of course lynching mafia results in town's victory.
Though this is true, I've been mostly ignoring the whole chosen townie thing. It's a secondary wincon town shouldn't even need, especially considering it forces scum to over-extend in obvious ways. A chosen flip is almost more helpful than a scum flip in terms of associations.
Perhaps. I just like playing with set up spec stuff in mind when I play games like these.

MS players seem to fight playing the into a set up if they don't have too. :/
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Post Post #552 (ISO) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 6:59 am

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Showering, be back soon friendo

Point me towards any posts in particular you find interesting, and I'll give you some sound analysis
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Post Post #553 (ISO) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:00 am

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shaddowez posting once per day (sometimes once per two days) is irritating, though, I'm not sure if that's how scum posts looking at his last posts.
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Post Post #554 (ISO) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:01 am

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Btw, if you think someone's chosen, then you actually believe scum were pushing them. Town can't tell whether someone is chosen or not by themselves.
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Post Post #555 (ISO) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:03 am

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Was that directed at me?

Anycase, would you like to talk a bit Creature?
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Post Post #556 (ISO) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:05 am

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idk, based on pushing, what are the two players you most think are chosen?
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Post Post #557 (ISO) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:13 am

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TTTT is my top chosen suspect.

The second falls between you, me, shadowez, maybe even nn30.

I highly doubt there is a chosen one in: Human, Tenshii, Hiraki, or Dave
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Post Post #558 (ISO) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:14 am

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Maybe we could go at Human, Tenshii, Hiraki or Dave then.

However, I am afraid scum will not immediatelly push the chosen.
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Post Post #559 (ISO) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:16 am

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The reason I'm considering myself at all is because Dave sat so long on Vedith.

I really don't understand why Mafia wouldn't choose to veto the most experienced on the roster.

Pre-edit: Why wouldn't they?
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Post Post #560 (ISO) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:17 am

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We can't determine who was the veto if we don't know who is mafia.
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Post Post #561 (ISO) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:18 am

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I know at least Tenshii and Vedith would consider me a good player, not sure on the rest.
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Post Post #562 (ISO) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:21 am

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In post 529, Grendel wrote:I've explicitly said that you've seen me favor lynching secondary/tertiary scum reads over my primary ones.
Keyword: might - there were no definite in my statement. This is literally the first time we have played. If I'm wrong, I honestly don't remember off-hand.

I actually did not know. I know people that do that and I know people like me who do not enjoy quick compromises on second/third scumreads if they're that far down the list.
In post 526, Human Sequencer wrote:I believe his actions and mindset are more consistent with 'inexperienced town' than any kind of scum.
We'll have to agree to disagree on both points then (i.e. 527)

Dave just looks like he's mad that he joined a game that had people he didn't like playing with but because he doesn't want to be an asshole and replace out, he's decided to be an asshole and stay in.
In post 547, Grendel wrote:His wagon lacks the fluidly of many others this game. Wouldn'y that mean that scum don't want this lynch to happen?
This is very assumptive. Dave is also the one player people are uneasy to comment on. I don't think it's due to alignment reasons.
In post 553, Creature wrote:shaddowez posting once per day (sometimes once per two days) is irritating, though, I'm not sure if that's how scum posts looking at his last posts.
I hate asking theory/player questions but I feel like you have an opinion that you can catch scum based on how they post rather than what they post? Is that true?
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Post Post #563 (ISO) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:23 am

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tbh I don't read wall posts, I just see what they post and see if it fits the situation.
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Post Post #564 (ISO) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:25 am

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What scum does: Pick genuine scumhunting posts and point scumtells.

It's actually hard to do post by post analysis.
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Post Post #565 (ISO) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:26 am

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Isn't that what town does too? Don't want to get boggled down into this theory stuff, just trying to figure out where your methods are coming from.
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Post Post #566 (ISO) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:27 am

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Yeah, town confbias and sometimes does what scum does.
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Post Post #567 (ISO) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:31 am

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Post Post #568 (ISO) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:31 am

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Which makes me think he's town, btw
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Post Post #569 (ISO) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:35 am

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So some people think I'm scum if NN is scum, then Human is here saying I'm scummy, then saying I'm just bad.
Not to mention the townread on nn and scumread on me anyway.

Someone's logic isn't making sense.
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Post Post #570 (ISO) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:36 am

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It's yours.
It means you're scum.
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Post Post #571 (ISO) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:41 am

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I hate when I don't know how someone plays scum.
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Post Post #572 (ISO) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:42 am

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The bad thing is I'll only know when I see them flipping scum the game they played with me.
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Post Post #573 (ISO) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:44 am

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In post 570, Human Sequencer wrote:It's yours.
It means you're scum.
But how am I scum? Or are you just trying to push an easy mislynch?
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Post Post #574 (ISO) » Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:49 am

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Town would know whether it's a mislynch or not. So would scum, but the way you half-heartedly question my motive is concerning.

If you'd read the thread, you'd see which outlies my reason for scumreading you.
Scum don't need to read the thread, they already know everybody's alignment so scumhunting isn't a priority for them.
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