Mini Normal 1857 (Game Over - Mafia Wins!)

[gerryoat]

Can I get a scum lynch for my christmas present?

most forced thing I've seen on this site.

[JaeReed]

VC 3.09

Impoetic (3)

: Titus, Drone, gerryoat

-- L-2!

Drone (1)

: ssbm_Kyouko

shannon (1)

: Raskolnikov

Titus (1)

: shannon

gerryoat (1)

: Sesq

NOT VOTING (2)

: TTTT, Impoetic

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline is in (expired on 2017-01-03 16:47:00)

gerryoat is V/LA til the 7th.

[JaeReed]

Impoetic has requested replacement.

[TTTT]

VOTE: Imp

L-1

[TTTT]

@TTTT what are your scumreads?

Imp
Titus
But not together

[TTTT]

Also could you go into your shannon read?

She's been nullish to lean-town most of the game
I haven't paid much attention to the slot
If I'm scum that's my partner though, right?

[JaeReed]

shadonra replaces Impoetic!

[shadonra]

Hi!

I'm shadonra, I played one game on this site before (newbie game Stop and Go, I was scum with TTTT)

I've been following this game since Day 1, so I'm just gonna reread Day 3 and start posting. One question to start off -

Why is there a wagon on Impo? The only justification I saw was Titus's no result, which is IMO an

insane

reason to be lynching this slot today.

[TTTT]

Welcome shad my scumbro!
I agree that the no result is not a good reason for voting your slot.
since you've been following along, got any overall reads?

[shadonra]

After day 1 I was pretty sure scum was Shannon + ssbm_kyouko, but game progressed strangely and I'm not sure anymore. That's why I want to do some rereading now

[TTTT]

why did you think ssbm was scum on day1?
what do you mean by "game progressed strangely"?
also, is your partner Rask or Sesq?

[shadonra]

I don't remember.

LUV was town and his reads were nearly the opposite of mine, and I'm not sure I reevaluated accordingly.

Ur my only scumpartner <3

[TTTT]

I'm voting Imp/Shad
Shad says Titus' reason for the wagon is bad
I agree
shad fails to follow-up on my reasons for voting his slot.

[shadonra]

what the hell i just said i'm rereading day 3, are you saying you didn't give a reason to vote anywhere there?

jesus dude, slow ur roll

[shadonra]

VOTE: shannon

I finished. I could still go for kyouko, too. I can't figure out gerry and TTTT at all. Rask looks town - I really like his case on shannon. Not sure at all what to think of Titus, but if this is her scum play, it's really... inspired. Sesq and Drone seem like town, too.

Titus, why did you start the wagon on me based on a no-result? What do you think of Rask's argument that shannon pushed back pretty much until you revealed who you targeted, and then backed off?

@Others wagoning me:
Why? Especially gerry and TTTT, who have not given motivations.

[shannon]

Sorry I've not been here much, I fell ill yesterday and posting properly just seemed too hard. I'll be back tonight with a proper response for Rask.

Welcome, Shadonra. I like your entrance.

Can you tell me more about your read on SSBM? Now that you've pointed it out I feel like that's one player who has been at the centre of things but who no-one has really bothered to look at.

[shadonra]

Sorry I've not been here much, I fell ill yesterday and posting properly just seemed too hard. I'll be back tonight with a proper response for Rask.

Welcome, Shadonra. I like your entrance.

Can you tell me more about your read on SSBM? Now that you've pointed it out I feel like that's one player who has been at the centre of things but who no-one has really bothered to look at.

I went back and started rereading day 1 to try to remember why I was scumreading him. I don't see it anymore. I only see more and more reasons to townread him (notably - rb tried to flip the wagon on him a few times). I'm reasonably sure the scumteam is you and Gerry.

[shadonra]

Oh,
@Drone - Did you talk to rabbit in your private chat day 1 at all? What did you say there?

[ssbm_Kyouko]

VOTE: shannon

I finished. I could still go for kyouko, too. I can't figure out gerry and TTTT at all. Rask looks town - I really like his case on shannon. Not sure at all what to think of Titus, but if this is her scum play, it's really... inspired. Sesq and Drone seem like town, too.

Titus, why did you start the wagon on me based on a no-result? What do you think of Rask's argument that shannon pushed back pretty much until you revealed who you targeted, and then backed off?

@Others wagoning me:
Why? Especially gerry and TTTT, who have not given motivations.

Sorry I've not been here much, I fell ill yesterday and posting properly just seemed too hard. I'll be back tonight with a proper response for Rask.

Welcome, Shadonra. I like your entrance.

Can you tell me more about your read on SSBM? Now that you've pointed it out I feel like that's one player who has been at the centre of things but who no-one has really bothered to look at.

I went back and started rereading day 1 to try to remember why I was scumreading him. I don't see it anymore. I only see more and more reasons to townread him (notably - rb tried to flip the wagon on him a few times). I'm reasonably sure the scumteam is you and Gerry.

What points you to Gerry so soon after you said you couldn't figure him or TTTT out? Also you've been scum with TTTT before, do you get scum vibes from him, being a little familiar with his game

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Hammering this wagon will be taken as a scumclaim

[TTTT]

pretty much everybody except ssbm is a scum possibility right now

[shadonra]

I didn't like what I saw of Kohai on D1. As soon as Gerry replaces in he posts a bunch of LAMIST and is generally impossible to read, then he wagons LUV and delivers this post

We already hit a scum so right now its 9 town:2 scum. If we don't kill Titus today and she's not scum, mafia will almost certainly kill her because she has a GS shot left in her. If she gets a guilty and we follow it tomorrow we'd be at worst 7 town:2scum with Titus confirmed scum for faking a gunsmith guilty. If she's scum she'll probably claim a "No Gun" result on someone to avoid having to bus her only remaining teammate.

VOTE: LUV
I think we can do this today after all. Claims have shown he's not who I thought he was when we woke up D2, back to my associative reads

^^^^^ this is SCUM. HE SAYS IM MAF AND THEN VOTES MY SCUMREAD

and doesn't unvote.

[shadonra]

I did not get a good read on TTTT in the game he replaced into. There was pretty much one interaction before the game ended.

[TTTT]

I did not get a good read on TTTT in the game he replaced into. There was pretty much one interaction before the game ended.

Here's the game: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=68715
And the scum PT: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=68716

You played half that game with me as your scumbro
and you've been reading this game since day1
and don't have any insight on me?

[shadonra]

I didn't work hard reading you that game bc we were both scum. This game, your reads and pushes have been different from what I would have done, but I don't really see anything that points to you being scum.