Open 664 - Tit for Tat (Mafia Wins)

[KainTepes]

i say we keep the wagon at L2 until spade comes in and says something......... no point releasing pressure when the pressure has done nothing yet

[Alisae]

Kain, that sounds smart!

[KainTepes]

THANKS!!!!!!!!! i learn a lot of new things in school every day,,

[Hawk]

Then gimmie your vote. We can get a better read on him and if someone lolhammers then we know who we're lynchin the next day.

No we wouldn't know who. Town derp hammer all the time.

Oh yeah that's right they do....

OMGUS I really want to vote this -_- but we have Spade at l-2 so let's just remember this conversation for later....

[KainTepes]

derp hammer reminds me of BOONSKIIES, hes a great guy

[Hawk]

Just checked activity log. @mod can we get a Prod on CD and Spade both havent posted in 2 days....

[KainTepes]

MOD: PROD ON SPADE PLEASE

,,

[Aubrey]

Aubrey what did you mean by that gif you posted earlier?

[Aubrey]

That gif would be more appropriate if that period was a question mark now that I think about it. Whatever. The answer to your question is rather obvious, but if you need a definite answer... how about you address me instead of dodging my comments.

[Alisae]

Nah I got it thanks.

[Aubrey]

:>

Good to hear.

[Hawk]

@Bang

Are you caught up? What are your feelings about this Spade wagon. I was looking over votes and realized your vote is still from RVS stage so I want to here your thoughts.

[Malakittens]

Quick check in.

KT where did I ever say I was aggressive?

I'll try to post more later. I'm just exhausted. I was on call last night with some calls so I finally went to bed around 5 and then had to take/pick up my dad from the hospital and finally went back to sleep solidly around 10.

[Aelin]

I can say this now but Spade where are you? A game we played together just finished and he was very active during that.
Leaning Spade as scum but agree we should not put him at L-1

[Malakittens]

VOTE: Alisea

[Aelin]

VOTE: Alisea

Reason?

[Malakittens]

One thing at a time. Want KT to answer my question first.

[Alisae]

I sorta want a reason to.

[KainTepes]

One thing at a time. Want KT to answer my question first.

It's not my duty to convince you I'm town. It's my duty to explain and lynch who I believe is scum.

this is my answer to your question.....

you didnt say you were aggressive directly but that was the implication,,

[Spade_Ace]

Guys, sorry, wasnt paying much attention to this game. Was more focused on a thriller that just got over. My previous town game in Open, i attracted way too much attention on day1 and ended up being scumread. My wagon reached L-1 and had to claim. I got killed that night. So i decided it was wiser to be less active this time. It seems whatever i do, am being scumread. Bang, kop, Saj and gamma, whoever isnt scum, please back me up. You have seen my play before.

I have poor reads on everyone, so far. Ill need to go back and read the game again.

[KainTepes]

SPADE do you agree with my view on MALAKITTENS,,

[Aelin]

One thing at a time. Want KT to answer my question first.

It's not my duty to convince you I'm town. It's my duty to explain and lynch who I believe is scum.

this is my answer to your question.....

you didnt say you were aggressive directly but that was the implication,,

Meh unless she had actually said the words "I play aggressive" or like that your case isn't very strong atm

[Spade_Ace]

I think i'll give my reads on everyone in an alphabetical order.

Aelin- Scum lean
- Hasn't changed her RVS vote. Says she suspects IV, Me and Mala but refuses to commit to anyone.
- I felt her initial scum lean on me was kind of convenient. Backs of when questioned.
- In Post 352 she says she understands my reasons for suspecting dagger. But in Post 488 says she still scum leans me.
- Didn't like the way she cleared Mala as town based on a weird reaction test. Post 366
- Didn't give reasons for townreading Uzi. Post 364
- Having said that, her style of play is somewhat consistent. Last game too she gave reads but didn't explain the reasons.
@Aelin who do you prefer seeing lynched today?

Alisae - NULL
- Is the most active player.
- Seems to be giving off reads and changing her vote often without being concerned about how they are perceived. Scum would fear appearing inconsistent.
- Post 201 gives a town vibe.
- But I didn't like Post 437 at all. Seems BS to me. Needs to explain it further.
- Post 465. Scum would NEVER hammer on day 1 in a 12 person game.
- Understood the Post 457 reference. So can understand why she wanted a wagon on me. But do note I react to wagons badly, irrespective of my alignment.
@alisae Respond to Post 453 and Post 472. Also do you scumread or townread daggers?

Aubrey - Town Lean
- Second most active player. Seems to be doing his fair share of scumhunting. Provides reasons and explains his thoughts. Is calling out people on their inconsistencies
- But at times he appears to be buddying up to people. Took too much effort in explaining the transcend issue to me. And explaining the 'spoliers' to bang. Might be trying to act like an IC.
- But other than that, am not able to find anything that stands out scummy
@Aubrey other than Alisae who are your scumreads?

[Alisae]

I don't exactly see how to respond to Kain's post. It just seems like he's giving me information.

I was saying contradictory things to see who would push it.
Basicly I was trying to set myself up to be lynch bait.

can you explain what you mean by this PLEASE,, what were you trying to set yourself up as LYNCH BAIT and what were you expecting to see??

if you say contradictory things, EVERYONE is going to push it,, how does that differentiate between town and scum?

See who would push me being lynch bait. Because scum really like to push lynch bait.

Then wouldn't Kop or I have been on your suspect list and pushed by you by now? We were the first two to start pushing against you as I remember. And now Bang of course. I just don't understand where this was implemented exactly.

My biggest townreads because they seem to genuinely be evaluating hte game? Naaaah. Bang needs mroe time.

[Alisae]

Gun to my head scum for CD.