OPEN 663: STACK THE DECK (GAME OVER)

[Gamma Emerald]

Also why are you trying to push it that one of AH/TB has to be scum?

I'm having hard time processing why people are triggered by AH, but not by TB.

Why must I be triggered by both?

[davesaz]

@To the people who are voting AntiHuman

If you scumread AH, how come you didn't scumread ThinkBig?

Please explain why you'd expect people scumreading one to scumread the other.

[davesaz]

Also why are you trying to push it that one of AH/TB has to be scum?

I'm having hard time processing why people are triggered by AH, but not by TB.

Do you think they did similar things or something?

[ssbm_Kyouko]

@ssbm

U ask him questions but vote him before he's had a chance to respond...

Also who do u think is AHs scum buddy?

Don't have an opinion on that. I usually look for team associations but haven't been seeing them this time. Traitor is a possibility in this setup, though. Not every scum will have 2-way associations if there is one.

@Desperado I saw you vote AH and that steadies my hand a bit because your vote was naked and had just swapped from the leading (but losing traction) Gamma wagon onto the rapidly growing AH wagon.

I fail to see why'd you feel good about this. Isn't that clear opportunism?

@ssbm

U ask him questions but vote him before he's had a chance to respond...

Also who do u think is AHs scum buddy?

Well, she obviously thinks I'm scum with Gamma, which is rubbish. If I was scum, I'd be bussing the shit outta Gamma instead of painting a target on my back.

I think you misunderstand the phrase "steady my hand". I was considering voting you up until I saw Desperado's vote which stuck out to me as opportunistic. That's why I asked questions of both of you and voted him instead. I liked his answers so I decided his vote was not going to stop me from voting you, so then I went where I was originally going after seeing the push on TB. I don't think you're necessarily scum with Gamma, but I do think you attacked his wagon with intent. Could be you're scum with him, could be he's town and you saw his wagon stalling and decided to pick up the momentum and transfer it to another townie before a townie discovered the scum on Gamma's wagon and started pushing that player.

Can I safely assume that those who vote AntiHuman thinks ThinkBig is town?

No, that's like assuming AH is definitely scum and clearing TB based on that. If AH flips scum then yeah TB is probably town, but if TB flips town AH could still be town.

@To the people who are voting AntiHuman

If you scumread AH, how come you didn't scumread ThinkBig?

Don't understand this question. What is bringing this about?

Hmm

@ssbm what do you think of Dunn's defense of me?

It's incomplete, will see what she has to say "in the morning" as promised in 367. Don't see anything scummy jumping out at me in it yet though, except the assumption that the players voting you would push TB if you flipped town. I don't think that's true at all, I know it's not for me

[Superhans]

@ssbm

U ask him questions but vote him before he's had a chance to respond...

Also who do u think is AHs scum buddy?

Don't have an opinion on that. I usually look for team associations but haven't been seeing them this time. Traitor is a possibility in this setup, though. Not every scum will have 2-way associations if there is one.

@Desperado I saw you vote AH and that steadies my hand a bit because your vote was naked and had just swapped from the leading (but losing traction) Gamma wagon onto the rapidly growing AH wagon.

I fail to see why'd you feel good about this. Isn't that clear opportunism?

@ssbm

U ask him questions but vote him before he's had a chance to respond...

Also who do u think is AHs scum buddy?

Well, she obviously thinks I'm scum with Gamma, which is rubbish. If I was scum, I'd be bussing the shit outta Gamma instead of painting a target on my back.

I think you misunderstand the phrase "steady my hand". I was considering voting you up until I saw Desperado's vote which stuck out to me as opportunistic.

That's why I asked questions of both of you and voted him instead. I liked his answers so I decided his vote was not going to stop me from voting you, so then I went where I was originally going after seeing the push on TB.

I don't think you're necessarily scum with Gamma, but I do think you attacked his wagon with intent. Could be you're scum with him, could be he's town and you saw his wagon stalling and decided to pick up the momentum and transfer it to another townie before a townie discovered the scum on Gamma's wagon and started pushing that player.

You didn't even wait for his answers...

[ssbm_Kyouko]

I didn't need AH's answers, as I said the reason I didn't vote him was because of Desperado's vote looking scummy. After talking with Desperado and clearing that vote up I felt okay about voting AH

[Antihuman]

Don't have an opinion on that. I usually look for team associations but haven't been seeing them this time.

That's weird cause your first reaction was a team association of me and Gamma.

I don't think you're necessarily scum with Gamma, but I do think you attacked his wagon with intent. Could be you're scum with him, could be he's town and you saw his wagon stalling and decided to pick up the momentum and transfer it to another townie before a townie discovered the scum on Gamma's wagon and started pushing that player.

This is an extremely far-fetched theory but for argument's sake let's assume I'm scum and he's not. Who's the most likely person to be my partner on his wagon?

@ssbm what do you think of Dunn's defense of me?

It's incomplete, will see what she has to say "in the morning" as promised in 367. Don't see anything scummy jumping out at me in it yet though, except the assumption that the players voting you would push TB if you flipped town. I don't think that's true at all, I know it's not for me

So your first reaction to my defense of Gamma was calling it "scum derailing his partner's wagon". Now Dunn has done the same exact thing and you don't think it's suspicious. Wouldn't it make sense for you to think Dunn's my partner chainsawing me?

[Gamma Emerald]

what

[Superhans]

what

Prick

[Gamma Emerald]

Why?

[ssbm_Kyouko]

Don't have an opinion on that. I usually look for team associations but haven't been seeing them this time.

That's weird cause your first reaction was a team association of me and Gamma.

Don't recall that, quote it? Derailing wagons doesn't always point to team, especially in a setup where Traitor could be derailing a wagon on scum but scum wouldn't know traitor is their partner. That's not the kind of association I would call a team association in the standard sense of the phrase.

I don't think you're necessarily scum with Gamma, but I do think you attacked his wagon with intent. Could be you're scum with him, could be he's town and you saw his wagon stalling and decided to pick up the momentum and transfer it to another townie before a townie discovered the scum on Gamma's wagon and started pushing that player.

This is an extremely far-fetched theory but for argument's sake let's assume I'm scum and he's not. Who's the most likely person to be my partner on his wagon?

If you're not scum together with Gamma, I'd say either Kop or Realeo because I'm satisfied with Desperado and I don't have a SR on Superhans. That leaves Kop and Realeo, more likely Realeo for position on the wagon imo. That depends on you not being scum with Gamma though, or not being Traitor with scum!Gamma.

@ssbm what do you think of Dunn's defense of me?

It's incomplete, will see what she has to say "in the morning" as promised in 367. Don't see anything scummy jumping out at me in it yet though, except the assumption that the players voting you would push TB if you flipped town. I don't think that's true at all, I know it's not for me

So your first reaction to my defense of Gamma was calling it "scum derailing his partner's wagon". Now Dunn has done the same exact thing and you don't think it's suspicious. Wouldn't it make sense for you to think Dunn's my partner chainsawing me?

I don't see Dunn doing the same thing that you were doing, but Dunn hasn't finished yet. Don't think Dunn attacked anyone so there's not really any way her actions could be construed as a chainsaw, unless you think analyzing a wagon on your TR is a chainsaw.

[Gamma Emerald]

tbh I agree that Real feels scummy. The strange equating of TB and AH suggests scum trying to fake associations.

[grapes]

DAY 1 VC 007

Antihuman ( 4 ) -

(Gamma Emerald, ThinkBig, Desperado, ssbm_Kyouko)

Realeo ( 2 ) -

(algebra, Secret Agent Jin)

Gamma Emerald ( 1 ) -

(Realeo)

Secret Agent Jin ( 1 ) -

(davesaz)

ThinkBig ( 1 ) -

(Antihuman)

Desperado ( 1 ) -

(Dunnstral)

Not Voting ( 2 ) -

(Superhans, Kop)

Seven to lynch.
(expired on 2017-01-05 01:30:02) remain until deadline.

Secret Agent Jin has requested replacement.

[Realeo]

tbh I agree that Real feels scummy. The strange equating of TB and AH suggests scum trying to fake associations.

Did I say TB/AH scum team?

I said triggered.

Like for example. If you are triggered by SuperHans but not triggered by AntiHuman, I personally would be shocked because if you're triggered by SuperHans, how come you are not triggered by AntiHuman who is

worse

.

Smae logic with AntiHuman + ThinkBig.

[Realeo]

I mean, everybody has their own scumhunting-o-meter right? Each player has their own "threshold meter" between

Ah, he's fine. It's just reasonable doubt!

or

Beyond reasonable doubt, eat this rope!

If you scumread AntiHuman but not ThinkBig, either you have double standard as town, or are you faking one as scum.

[grapes]

Alisae replaces Secret Agent Jin!

[Realeo]

Also why are you trying to push it that one of AH/TB has to be scum?

I'm having hard time processing why people are triggered by AH, but not by TB.

Do you think they did similar things or something?

They have been quite verbose with their opinion, don't they?

[Alisae]

Hi! Let me read up on shit before I do reads and all that good stuff. Anything specific ywall want me to go over?

[Realeo]

Hi! Let me read up on shit before I do reads and all that good stuff. Anything specific ywall want me to go over?

AntiHuman is the buzzword.

[Realeo]

Also why are you trying to push it that one of AH/TB has to be scum?

I'm having hard time processing why people are triggered by AH, but not by TB.

Why must I be triggered by both?

Do you townread ThinkBig, yes/no?

[Realeo]

Am I the only one who didn't townread ThinkBig? Why I feel alienated?

[Alisae]

Am I the only one who didn't townread ThinkBig? Why I feel alienated?

Currently on page 4 I don't like him. I can't put on my finger on it, but I don't like him.

[Alisae]

Realeo is probably town. I don't think scum would use a line of reasoning as absurd as Realeo's.

I can WIFOM this all fucking day.

[Alisae]

Alright, so far I really do not like Desperato's slot and Antihuman's slot. I don't like Desperato's slot mostly because of MariaR's play.
And I really just don't like some of the bullshit coming out of Antihuman's slot.
VOTE: Antihuman

[Desperado]

Hi! Let me read up on shit before I do reads and all that good stuff. Anything specific ywall want me to go over?

Your thoughts on the last ten pages basically. Gamma's wagon > Antihuman's replace in and push on ThinkBig > Antihuman's wagon > Dunn's defense of Antihuman.