Open 666 - Pick Your Poison - Day 5

[D3f3nd3r]

VOTE: Desperado
Why don't you come to your senses?
You've been out riding fences, for so long now...

Mod: I'd assume that people are going to be a bit less active today/tomorrow because of the New Year. With the posting requirements already much more strict than normal, any chance you could be a bit lax with prods for the next couple days?

[D3f3nd3r]

VOTE: Zyf
We're going to deathtunnel each other at some point so we might as well get it out of our system.

His last of a "reason" for the RVS vote is a bit weird, but there's no way to read into it TBH.

And happy birthday zyf!

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Hence the tongue face!

Yeah I was gonna say something about asking why...then I didn't actually do it. The line under the quote was a comment about your post about Alisae.

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I mean, if lots of votes change then go for it. But we don't need a new count every time one or two votes change.

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P-Edit: It's a national holiday in a ton of countries, people are doing holiday things, it's kinda absurd to prod them...

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And they get replaced if they don't post by noon, too...

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Zyf is chatting breeze but this is RVS so I don't think it means anything. It would be nice if u could explain what u mean when u say it's ur birthday.

You see the cake icon on his profile? When he signed up he had to set a birthday, and like a lot of people he didn't want to set it so he just left it to the default 1/1.

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Apparently it's the difference between my vote being counted or not.

yep
I think the mod is new.

His first game modded onsite. That doesn't justify 24 hour prod timers though...

Will get some thoughts out tomorrow, had a busy day today.

[D3f3nd3r]

The thing with Super's wagon is, there's at the very least one person (Hawk) who is still on Super as an RVS vote. If Hawk isn't thinking that anymore, might be good for him to unvote.

UNVOTE: Lil Uzi Vert
VOTE: Superhans

^^^^^^extremely suss rn
didn't ask for a claim, didn't call L-1, didn't make a comment
just kinda slipped in and put hans at L-1

The fact that every single one of his votes has come this way is a little bit weird, but I poked through (SK) his (Scum) meta (Town) a bit and he seems to do that somewhat as all alignments. The blame is also on Rb a bit, since hitting L-2 this early in the Day isn't the most common of things.

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Yeah, it was. But with my last post there's no reason to keep it as is.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Gendaberry

Would love to see some content out of him, there's next to nothing in any of the posts he's made so far.

[D3f3nd3r]

Super's flip makes Rb look even worse for the reasonless vote.

VOTE: Rb

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My argument against Rb is that he tried to skirt his way onto the Super wagon (in an attempt to bus) without giving much of a reason or explanation, or much content during the game as a whole.

I didn't call the wagon RVS, I just questioned a single vote on it. It isn't often that a lynch happens two and a half days into Day 1 in games, and I wanted to make sure we actually had seven people (well, obviously not considering what Super actually did) who wanted Super lynched before a lynch happened.

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Kinda scumreading D3f3nd3r. Don't get his argument for rb, especially when there's an actual reason-less vote on the wagon SH from Desperado that he ignores.

Townreading Alisae

I don't agree with Desperado that there's no scum on the SH wagon, but I want to think it over a bit more tomorrow.

I made a meta argument to "justify" Desperado doing it in 181. I can't say I like what Desp did, but he seemed to do it in town and scum (and even third party) games that I looked at.

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Claiming VT.

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Will wait a bit for replacements to get acclimated so that I can read them.

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I tried asking the mod multiple times both in game and through PM but never was responded to. It's absurd and I am strongly considering doing the same.

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So yeah, some content!

I like Grey better than I did Rb in that slot, but I'm still not a huge fan. Other than his comments during his readthrough he hasn't really given us anything. And even during the readthrough, a decent amount of what he is saying he probably knew was completely irrelevant considering the game had gone somewhere. For example,

I can support this
I don't particularly like you backing off just because you're not getting support, and if hans flips scum you're still quite a possible partner, buuuuut....

Why is this, Zyf?

Zyf was dead, scum killed him. I really wouldn't be surprised if he just put that stream of posts out so that people saw he had something, even if decent parts of it weren't relevant. I'm still happy with having my vote parked there.

Working on a slightly longer post as I'm currently in prod range, will be an additional post.

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I'm also a little bit worried about Alisae considering the scumkill ended up going Zyf's way. Zyf was fairly worried about Alis on Day 1 but nobody else really was. This makes the Zyf kill make some sense, but maybe I'm just reading into a bit too much as Zyf was giving a ton of content and really did spearhead the Super lynch.

I will lynch in:
Gamma
LUV
Defender

Explanation?

Simple Plan's posts have looked fairly good today. Even though Day 1 he was giving out very little, if anything, I would imagine that that was because of the New Year. Got a town read on him, but I feel like we'll need to see what happens with his reads before we can get a better idea of whether or not he's town.

I don't get the Uzi wagon, Gamma and Alis. Can you two give me an explanation of why he doesn't look great to you?

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Yeah it's an incredibly to-the-letter mod. But those second and third posts count I'd imagine, so please BLOOOOOOW OURRRRR MIIIIIINDS.

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In case you also missed it in your reread, defender started today pushing rb because he voted Hans without a reason or explanation.

I did this Day 1 too. Never put my vote down on Rb, in favor of voting Gendaberry to get content out of him, but I did mention that Rb did it and felt scummy in 181.

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The flip itself didn't do anything to my thoughts about his scumminess/towniness. The only reason I had him leaning scum was his not posting much content. He's been giving slightly more since Day 2 started but still not...like...much. I don't have a strong read on him but he feels somewhat town based on what he's saying.

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The mod isn't bad and i appreciate the time he took to host it, but i don't like his prodding policy. I got into a car accident yd and didn't have much time to ms.

He's doing a great job modding by the rules that he establised. My complaint is those rules.

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I'm voting him because I believe he isn't obv-town...but it seems clear that there won't be any traction with that vote. I believe a Desp vote is also good for the reasons you posted before and the really awkward and weird-feeling vote rankings though, so I guess I may as well switch and VOTE: Desperado.

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Terrible.

(Assuming this is about my post) What's the alternative, saying "ok Grey isn't scum at all anymore"?

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He changed enough in his FTFY post though. Suggested that you seemed to want a ton of people out, in particular, and so on. I don't truly believe that your interests are as aligned as you're saying.

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ArcAngel9 and Narna I really don’t have any read on. AA9 gave essentially no content at all. Narna hasn’t given us a ton either, and I need to hear a bit more from him. If I had to pick a side I’d say he leans town, though.

My thought about A Simple Plan are in 410. He looks good, but if his recent push on Falco turns out to not be fruitful (if Falco dies/is lynched and is town) then I would really start to doubt him.

Transcend, you feel good to me, but I wasn’t the hugest fan of Uzi. His lack of town reads (see 273 and 275) I don’t really like, and looking over his ISO again it really doesn’t seem like he has any particularly strong reads on people being scum either. Maybe that’s the slot, but I think that’s just Uzi.

Falco and Dwlee do seem somewhat scummy. Dwlee gave us pretty much nothing to work with. Falco’s been around but really doesn’t seem to be scumhunting at all. There’s 333 with a couple reasonless reads, as well as 375, but his posts don’t even seem to be attempting to find scum.

Gamma also feels a little bit off. He hasn’t been doing much either, but I’m not quite sure I’d say that he’s avoiding posting content. Would like to hear more substantial things out of Gamma...until then she's leaning scum a little bit.

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Yeah but there's got to be a reason behind it. You didn't like him at the time, so I thought there was a methodology by which you were making the changes. Do I believe your interests are what you changed the post to? No. You were messing with him, but I thought you were doing it satirically.

The Uzi read I had for a while. The Narna and Falco reads are more recent, Narna I'd never really thought about due to the lack of posts from the slot. Falco for a similar reason.

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Off not in relation to your usual play, just off in general. I explain it in the second sentence. We've never played together.

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VOTE: D3f3nd3r

Nice, not even mentioning that that was L-1.

[D3f3nd3r]

Thanks

[D3f3nd3r]

You tried

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You didn't succeed

[D3f3nd3r]

Yeah I was thinking, he didn't exactly have much time to quickhammer.

[D3f3nd3r]

Isn't it commonplace for the modkill of a town player to end the day though? So it shouldn't have mattered.

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If there were two votes on Titus at the modkill what would have happened?

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https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/qd9dgPcRMVKJ

you're easy

Yeah I called it too!

Though mainly because the scumteam was posted in the dead topic