Open 664 - Tit for Tat (Mafia Wins)

Alisae · Post Post #700 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:31 am

Dude, I don't care anymore. Lynch me. I'm basicly giving up.

Alisae · Post Post #701 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:32 am

Either way I'm lynchbait

KainTepes · Post Post #702 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:32 am

ok alisae im giving you one last chance, answer these questions please,, i will put them out clearly for you

1. you admitted that you knew i was vig but kept voting me and pushing me to claim anyway. Why?
2. what made you say i'm claiming role cop when it's not even a town power role,, and there are plenty of town power roles i could be claiming? that was what i found a scumslip
3. why did you vote yourself?
4. why did you vote Aelin?
5. why did you jump onto my wagon without explaining
6. WHAT WAS THE "BIG SCUMTELL" I GAVE WHICH YOU STILL HAVENT EXPLAINED AFTER LIKE 3 POSTS FROM PEOPLE ASKING YOU TO EXPLAIN

KainTepes · Post Post #703 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:33 am

like they are EASY QUESTIONS TO ANSWER,, i'm not sure why you're ignoring them if you are town

especially the last one

KainTepes · Post Post #704 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:33 am

In post 699, Hawk wrote:Can I just point to Aelin's entire ISO as being scummy. Her like last 10 posts are just buddy up posts and pointing Shade anywhere not her direction when we had scum leans on her earlier in the day.

Pedit: Don't hammer Alisae yet let me find the Mala post so I don't get shot.

DONT HAMMER ALISAE YET WE STILL NEED ALL PEOPLE TO CHIP IN BEFORE END OF DAY

Alisae · Post Post #705 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:34 am

1. I never admitted to you being vig. I never even saw it.
2. I never said that.
3. Because at this point I don't fucking care.
4. Because he's scummy.
5. I didn't like the response you gave to your wagon.
6. I explained this already, pushing slips that aren't actually slips is a scumtell.

Aubrey · Post Post #706 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:35 am

In post 694, Alisae wrote:
In post 689, KainTepes wrote:
In post 687, Alisae wrote:oh wait he claimed.
Ok
VOTE: Aelin

can we lynch this please,,
Sure. I stopped caring now.
VOTE: Alisae

ew.

Hawk · Post Post #707 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:35 am

In post 522, Malakittens wrote:
In post 514, Spade_Ace wrote:
In post 191, Malakittens wrote:I haven't yet decided how I lean on the three you mentioned so far. I liked the Hawk getting us out of RVS, but I don't like his early reads.
Yes KT and IV will both be pia reads for me.

Maybe they will be vigged for my sanity.

In post 155, Hawk wrote:Aubrey and Spade: Self-vote in RVS from Alisae to me is an engage me vote not nesscarily null. IME it's often town looking to start ppl talking, accidentally start a wagon, or in general just be different and standout during RVS. So I engaged wanting to see what he had to say.
She seems to have bread crumbed (stuff I have marked in green). It can either be:
1) An innocent random town post: If so why did she go to the extra efforts of making the size small.
2) It is a Vig soft claim. If it is, then it is a DUMB DUMB Obvious one. Cos i noticed ryt away while doing the ISO.
3) It is a scum, who wants to later claim she was a Vig. And show proof that she had already breadcrumbed.
4) She is directing the vig to kill someone.

@Mala please explain. If you are indeed Vig then Scum would have definitely noticed it and is purposefully quite about it.
This whole post reeks of rolefishing. (PS never do this ever again if this happens in another game)
The really, really bad part about this is that I actually think Spade might be town for this.

I'm pretty much not going to reply to half of this, but what I have to do say on the matter is the following:

This post was to ensure WIFOM. (however spade made have just fucked it up in one swoop)
I have a pretty high patience and sanity level. If you break that level then that's pretty much a hardcore red flag.

If I were to direct vig targets it probably wouldn't be such a bad thing to follow it since I have a 100% success rate of playing vig and winning as town in this setup.

~

Another thing is spade still got a pass for not answering about his read on me.
This post feels like a distraction.

This is where I thought she soft claimed Vigi.

indicating important information to me in a color.

Note that she says 100% success playing as vig. Listen to her targets makes me think she is town possibly Vigi.

Spade gets town points because despite finding crumbs he does not insinuate she is Vigi which is good for Mala.

Spade later scum reads Mala which I found super Scummy after Mala seemed to be happier with him for not answering her.

Hence why when pressure switched from Spade to Mala from you KT I was like wait wtf is that... don't wagon with spades scumread.

KainTepes · Post Post #708 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:35 am

In post 614, Alisae wrote:No Kain...That wasn't a slip.
In fact, I am so happy with my vote right now.
You just dropped my biggest scumtell

Because for some reason you thought rolecop.
But you were wrong becuase
A. Backup Rolecop for town exists
B. I just asked you why you thought Hawk was scum

But you dropped my biggest scumtell instead

like......... what is the point of this post?

this screamed scummy BUT i can also see it as town acting smug because i am challenging them

if you are town alisae you shouldnt give up NOW

Alisae · Post Post #709 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:35 am

In post 706, Aubrey wrote:
In post 694, Alisae wrote:
In post 689, KainTepes wrote:
In post 687, Alisae wrote:oh wait he claimed.
Ok
VOTE: Aelin

can we lynch this please,,
Sure. I stopped caring now.
VOTE: Alisae
ew.

End my misery please.

Alisae · Post Post #710 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:36 am

In post 708, KainTepes wrote:
In post 614, Alisae wrote:No Kain...That wasn't a slip.
In fact, I am so happy with my vote right now.
You just dropped my biggest scumtell

Because for some reason you thought rolecop.
But you were wrong becuase
A. Backup Rolecop for town exists
B. I just asked you why you thought Hawk was scum

But you dropped my biggest scumtell instead
like......... what is the point of this post?

this screamed scummy BUT i can also see it as town acting smug because i am challenging them

if you are town alisae you shouldnt give up NOW

UNVOTE:
Because I never said anything about rolecops and you're attacking me for it.

Alisae · Post Post #711 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:37 am

and yeah I won't vote myself, I need to give people the power to evaluate the votes on my wagon.

KainTepes · Post Post #712 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:37 am

I DONT THINK malakittens was claiming vig in that post.......... seems to be a "if i were vig" thing in response to Spade's role fishing

Malakittens · Post Post #713 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:38 am

Hawk my last line before the distraction was me being snarky. Since KT was putting on pressure to spade and then dropped it after and never picked it up again. You were doing the same

KainTepes · Post Post #714 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:38 am

I like this,, i know i was raging a lot but it got some interesting responses and people are finally discussing things and i'm getting a lot more TELLS from people

i just hope more will chime in, such as Crystalline dagger who mysteriously disappeared after i claimed

bangthemafia · Post Post #715 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:38 am

Wait guys. Let me dig the post that i thought Mala was admitting to Spade. By the way I was quite upset about Spade's pointing out Mala's crumb.

KT, what happens if you and scum shoot each other?

@Mod??

Aelin · Post Post #716 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:39 am

In post 711, Alisae wrote:and yeah I won't vote myself, I need to give people the power to evaluate the votes on my wagon.

Who do you think is scum on your wagon?

Hawk · Post Post #717 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:39 am

In post 712, KainTepes wrote:I DONT THINK malakittens was claiming vig in that post.......... seems to be a "if i were vig" thing in response to Spade's role fishing

I read it differently than you did. The whole never ever do this again thing made me feel like she was upset that Spade pointed out her WIFOM breadcrumb so she could soft claim Vigi.

KainTepes · Post Post #718 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:40 am

In post 605, Alisae wrote:
In post 603, KainTepes wrote:
In post 601, Alisae wrote:Why don't you just show it now?
rolefishing scum detected,, you are next after HAWK
For fuck sake I didn't ask for you to reveal their role.
I don't care about that information.

this was the post about role cop, ALISAE

only rolecops could tell someone's role

Malakittens · Post Post #719 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:40 am

They both die

KainTepes · Post Post #720 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:40 am

In post 717, Hawk wrote:
In post 712, KainTepes wrote:I DONT THINK malakittens was claiming vig in that post.......... seems to be a "if i were vig" thing in response to Spade's role fishing
I read it differently than you did. The whole never ever do this again thing made me feel like she was upset that Spade pointed out her WIFOM breadcrumb so she could soft claim Vigi.

but i don't see why Malakittens would do that as SCUM fakeclaiming vig,,

Alisae · Post Post #721 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:41 am

In post 716, Aelin wrote:
In post 711, Alisae wrote:and yeah I won't vote myself, I need to give people the power to evaluate the votes on my wagon.
Who do you think is scum on your wagon?

Who's on my wagon again?

Alisae · Post Post #722 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:42 am

In post 718, KainTepes wrote:
In post 605, Alisae wrote:
In post 603, KainTepes wrote:
In post 601, Alisae wrote:Why don't you just show it now?
rolefishing scum detected,, you are next after HAWK
For fuck sake I didn't ask for you to reveal their role.
I don't care about that information.
this was the post about role cop, ALISAE

only rolecops could tell someone's role

It wasn't meant to be.

Hawk · Post Post #723 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:42 am

In post 713, Malakittens wrote:Hawk my last line before the distraction was me being snarky. Since KT was putting on pressure to spade and then dropped it after and never picked it up again. You were doing the same

I hadn't switched my vote yet and was waiting on more from Spade. We were all playing super Apathetic then and I did not feel comfortable with pressuring cause I didn't have much to pressure. I understand this feeling tho. I was probably digging really hard looking for something and got caught in some circular logic...

KainTepes · Post Post #724 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:43 am

In post 705, Alisae wrote:1. I never admitted to you being vig. I never even saw it.
2. I never said that.
3. Because at this point I don't fucking care.
4. Because he's scummy.
5. I didn't like the response you gave to your wagon.
6. I explained this already, pushing slips that aren't actually slips is a scumtell.

1. After I claimed, you shifted your vote on me to Aelin saying "ok he finally claimed" or something like that..... which implies that you knew i was going to be a PR but you pretended not to know anyway,, thats what i felt was SCUMLIKE,,
2. see the role post i quoted above
3. ok
4. HOW?
5. HOW?
6. Now look at the slip i identified and explain to me how that wasnt a slip. explain your town thought process for making that post,,