Open 664 - Tit for Tat (Mafia Wins)

KainTepes · Post Post #725 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:44 am

In post 722, Alisae wrote:
In post 718, KainTepes wrote:
In post 605, Alisae wrote:
In post 603, KainTepes wrote:
In post 601, Alisae wrote:Why don't you just show it now?
rolefishing scum detected,, you are next after HAWK
For fuck sake I didn't ask for you to reveal their role.
I don't care about that information.
this was the post about role cop, ALISAE

only rolecops could tell someone's role
It wasn't meant to be.

what was it meant to be THEN,,

KainTepes · Post Post #726 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:45 am

VOTE: Crystalline Dagger

Hawk · Post Post #727 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:45 am

In post 720, KainTepes wrote:
In post 717, Hawk wrote:
In post 712, KainTepes wrote:I DONT THINK malakittens was claiming vig in that post.......... seems to be a "if i were vig" thing in response to Spade's role fishing
I read it differently than you did. The whole never ever do this again thing made me feel like she was upset that Spade pointed out her WIFOM breadcrumb so she could soft claim Vigi.
but i don't see why Malakittens would do that as SCUM fakeclaiming vig,,

Yeah KT I didn't think Mala was scum I thought Mala was Vigi or town. To possibly create a situation to CC the real vigi.

KainTepes · Post Post #728 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:46 am

not shifting away from ALISAE just yet,, but crystalline was pretty opportunistic in the last few pages,, i may just be seeing things though so let me know if anyone THINKS SO TOO

KainTepes · Post Post #729 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:46 am

In post 727, Hawk wrote:
In post 720, KainTepes wrote:
In post 717, Hawk wrote:
In post 712, KainTepes wrote:I DONT THINK malakittens was claiming vig in that post.......... seems to be a "if i were vig" thing in response to Spade's role fishing
I read it differently than you did. The whole never ever do this again thing made me feel like she was upset that Spade pointed out her WIFOM breadcrumb so she could soft claim Vigi.
but i don't see why Malakittens would do that as SCUM fakeclaiming vig,,
Yeah KT I didn't think Mala was scum I thought Mala was Vigi or town. To possibly create a situation to CC the real vigi.

what about now? do you think MALA is scum fakeclaiming vig?

KainTepes · Post Post #730 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:47 am

In post 641, Crystalline Dagger wrote:I am confident that KAIN TEPES is scumlean. The reason is he says that he is confident that he knows Hawk is scum on the last page and then says to Hawk "if you are town then help me lynch Alisae". That is both a quick wishy washy turn in logic AND shows that he is actually not sure what Hawk is. He also seems super panicked. I will confer with Gamma and give our collective thought on KAIN TEPES.

~Jin~

In post 651, Crystalline Dagger wrote:Also, if KAIN TEPES is a PR then he wouldnt know Hawk's role/alignment anyways as the town rolecop is a backup and isnt active. Shady much KAIN TEPES?

~Jin~

In post 653, Crystalline Dagger wrote:I meant that he wouldnt know the alignment/role even is we went into the night due to the town cop being backup. The only way is if he was scum cop.

~Jin~

tell me what you guys think about CD's three posts here,,

KainTepes · Post Post #731 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:48 am

CD is basically aaccusing me of being SCUM ROLECOP even though it's obvious that scum rolecop also can't investigate in D1, only in Night ONE,,

Hawk · Post Post #732 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:50 am

In post 729, KainTepes wrote:
In post 727, Hawk wrote:
In post 720, KainTepes wrote:
In post 717, Hawk wrote:
In post 712, KainTepes wrote:I DONT THINK malakittens was claiming vig in that post.......... seems to be a "if i were vig" thing in response to Spade's role fishing
I read it differently than you did. The whole never ever do this again thing made me feel like she was upset that Spade pointed out her WIFOM breadcrumb so she could soft claim Vigi.
but i don't see why Malakittens would do that as SCUM fakeclaiming vig,,
Yeah KT I didn't think Mala was scum I thought Mala was Vigi or town. To possibly create a situation to CC the real vigi.
what about now? do you think MALA is scum fakeclaiming vig?

I think if Mala is scum then that was an attempt at creating an early breadcrumb to possibly fake claim Vigi since the game was going so slowly she probably could have gotten away with not shooting N1 and making a play N2.

If Mala is town the she was directing Vigi shots and was upset for Spade pointing it out because scum will heavidly lean NK on Mala since it could also look like a soft Vigi claim.

So for me she's Null but if I had to say one or the other probably town lean since my top 3 scum are Alisae, Aelin, and Spade.

Pedit: Looks oppurtunistic. Need further elaboration from CDr but looks scummy to me at first glance.

KainTepes · Post Post #733 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:51 am

think malakittens may be town

KainTepes · Post Post #734 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:52 am

anyway we should not lynch anyone until these players have commented on the recent developments and put their scumreads in FRONT,,

INNOCENT VILLAGER,, LIL UZI VERT,, KOP, CRYSTALLINE DAGGER

i'm not town reading AELIN that much anymore also

KainTepes · Post Post #735 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:54 am

yeah Aelin is kinda suspicious,,

he was shade-casting me by saying i'm acting "differently" from the previous game when i was town,, then the moment i hinted PR he started buddying me,, that is my PERCEPTION

tell me if anyone else feeling that

Aelin · Post Post #736 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:54 am

What is the reason for the scumread? I'm usually pretty tame on MS compared to MU.
But the reason for you acting differently adds up to you being a PR this game not you being scum instead I realised Kain.

KainTepes · Post Post #737 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:55 am

wait HAWK i have one question for you,,

what made you so sure i was claiming VIGI rather than backup role cop or jailkeeper??

KainTepes · Post Post #738 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:56 am

In post 736, Aelin wrote:What is the reason for the scumread? I'm usually pretty tame on MS compared to MU.
But the reason for you acting differently adds up to you being a PR this game not you being scum instead I realised Kain.

i guess that makes some sense,,

btw happy new years in WALES,, i love britannia

bangthemafia · Post Post #739 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:57 am

I dont know why, but i hav startes getting a feeling that Alisae cud be a town.

I also thought all along that Mala had soft claimed. But if not, she cud be a townie too.

In that case, maybe we can lynch Aelin.

Pedit: KT, I dont find anything scummy. Please remember your crumbs were not picked up by many. And you did act very jumpy in last few pages

Also, i hav seen thia happen many times- when someone is a conftown due to being investigated or due to claiming, they start guiding the town against those eho suspected them- in my opinion its NAI. If someone is scummy, even townies will suspect them right?

And duw to the burden oof some extra knowledge, sometimes PRs do tend to behave in a way thats similar to acum.

I m signing out. Its 3.30 am here. But please dont wagon anyone beyond L-2.

Alisae · Post Post #740 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:57 am

In post 725, KainTepes wrote:
In post 722, Alisae wrote:
In post 718, KainTepes wrote:
In post 605, Alisae wrote:
In post 603, KainTepes wrote:
In post 601, Alisae wrote:Why don't you just show it now?
rolefishing scum detected,, you are next after HAWK
For fuck sake I didn't ask for you to reveal their role.
I don't care about that information.
this was the post about role cop, ALISAE

only rolecops could tell someone's role
It wasn't meant to be.
what was it meant to be THEN,,

It was meant to be asking you why you thought Hawk was scum

KainTepes · Post Post #741 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:57 am

In post 734, KainTepes wrote:anyway we should not lynch anyone until these players have commented on the recent developments and put their scumreads in FRONT,,

INNOCENT VILLAGER,, LIL UZI VERT,, KOP, CRYSTALLINE DAGGER

i'm not town reading AELIN that much anymore also

also im waiting on SPADE to comment as well

Aelin · Post Post #742 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:58 am

Not new year yet KT but thanks

KainTepes · Post Post #743 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 10:58 am

In post 739, bangthemafia wrote:Also, i hav seen thia happen many times- when someone is a conftown due to being investigated or due to claiming, they start guiding the town against those eho suspected them- in my opinion its NAI. If someone is scummy, even townies will suspect them right?

what is this a response to?

KainTepes · Post Post #744 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:00 am

In post 740, Alisae wrote:
In post 725, KainTepes wrote:
In post 722, Alisae wrote:
In post 718, KainTepes wrote:
In post 605, Alisae wrote:
In post 603, KainTepes wrote:
In post 601, Alisae wrote:Why don't you just show it now?
rolefishing scum detected,, you are next after HAWK
For fuck sake I didn't ask for you to reveal their role.
I don't care about that information.
this was the post about role cop, ALISAE

only rolecops could tell someone's role
It wasn't meant to be.
what was it meant to be THEN,,
It was meant to be asking you why you thought Hawk was scum

ok alisae you've defended yourself enough,, i want to know what you think about the other players,, mainly hawk

you've talked a lot about hawk and i get the idea that you think he's TOWN,, do you?? what do you think about HAWK

also, what do you think about KOP?

can you make a reads list?

Hawk · Post Post #745 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:00 am

Correcting myself. First glance it seems scummy but the logic is sound. At the time of the post CD might have missed your breadcrumb so he doesn't read you as Vigi but as Backup role cop or role cop so it doesn't make sense and his logic is fine. Especially at the time we didn't know your concrete evidence for me being scum was my oppurtunistic vote on you which to be fair was more a reactionary vote and not oppurtunistic.

PEdit: Night Bang.

KT: I realized that your vote on Mala might have been a CC vote and so I thought you were claiming Vigi. Backup Role cop and JK made no sense since it didn't fall in line with your logic against Alisae.

KainTepes · Post Post #746 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:02 am

i might have MISUNDERSTOOD many of alisae's posts,,

this is why i am imploring for more CLARITY,,

if you may do the HONORS, alisae

KainTepes · Post Post #747 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:02 am

In post 745, Hawk wrote:Correcting myself. First glance it seems scummy but the logic is sound. At the time of the post CD might have missed your breadcrumb so he doesn't read you as Vigi but as Backup role cop or role cop so it doesn't make sense and his logic is fine. Especially at the time we didn't know your concrete evidence for me being scum was my oppurtunistic vote on you which to be fair was more a reactionary vote and not oppurtunistic.

PEdit: Night Bang.

KT: I realized that your vote on Mala might have been a CC vote and so I thought you were claiming Vigi. Backup Role cop and JK made no sense since it didn't fall in line with your logic against Alisae.

Hawk seems town...... his explanations line in with his behavior.

changing my night target to KOP until he says something

KainTepes · Post Post #748 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:04 am

i don't think scum would point me out as VIG the way Hawk did

bangthemafia · Post Post #749 (ISO) » Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:05 am

In post 743, KainTepes wrote:
In post 739, bangthemafia wrote:Also, i hav seen thia happen many times- when someone is a conftown due to being investigated or due to claiming, they start guiding the town against those eho suspected them- in my opinion its NAI. If someone is scummy, even townies will suspect them right?
what is this a response to?

Your question about what everyone feels about CD?

Pedit- or for that matter, Hawk or anyone who suspected or voted u