Open 664 - Tit for Tat (Mafia Wins)
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Aelin Goon
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Aelin Goon
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Hawk Mafia Scum
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Thanks dude. It's hard playing Mafia with a splitting headache lol.In post 774, Alisae wrote:Yeah Hawk is town. I think he's genuinely trying to gamesolve.
CD and Mala are just gut reads that I'll look into a bit more later.
Also taking this moment to wish everyone a happy New Years unless we get to L-2 or something significant happens I'm out for the evening.-
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Alisae lolbalance
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Legit me right nowIn post 777, Hawk wrote:Thanks dude. It's hard playing Mafia with a splitting headache lol.| here.GTKAS-
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Hawk Mafia Scum
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685 You don't say it out right but at the time the two scum KT was certain of was Alisae and Me so the scum wagon you're referring to is Spade, Alisae, Hawk. So yes you scumread me.In post 776, Aelin wrote:I don't see how that connects to you in anyway.
Did I ever say I scumread you?
Now let me point out inconsistencies in your shit.
366 and 500 Here's where you town read Mala from a reaction test.
523 Here's a sheep on me being upset about CD not posting...
569 and 567 You ask about vote counts cause you want to be on Spade but don't want Spade hammered. Carefully setting up all your distancing with Spade.
595 Here's you don't like KT.
661 and 666 Literally your next two posts you flip off KT to it being ridiculous look back at Alisae and Spade.
668 Distractionary post on Aubrey now that KT is confirmed? Explain why Town!Aelin says this.
677 and we're back to Mala being scum off Spade's read. Yep inconsistent as fuck.
Please. Aelin don't dodge the question again. What is town!Aelin's reasoning behind this behavior? Because Scum!Aelin is kinda looking like the only reason I can see.
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Hawk Mafia Scum
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Try doing it all while posting on Mobile... lolIn post 778, Alisae wrote:
Legit me right nowIn post 777, Hawk wrote:Thanks dude. It's hard playing Mafia with a splitting headache lol.-
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Alisae lolbalance
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What's a phone?In post 780, Hawk wrote:
Try doing it all while posting on Mobile... lolIn post 778, Alisae wrote:
Legit me right nowIn post 777, Hawk wrote:Thanks dude. It's hard playing Mafia with a splitting headache lol.| here.GTKAS-
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Alisae lolbalance
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Aubrey Mafia Scum
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Crystalline Dagger Goon
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I dont remember if i said anything about it in this game but i am moving to Texas very soon so i am currently packing my things and making arrangements concerning various things like the airport, bank business, phone interviews, ect. I say all of that to actually say that i come online, check my games, post in them, and then i am offline for a few hours before i can get back to my games. I went offline when right after i posted those three posts.In post 714, KainTepes wrote:i just hope more will chime in, such as Crystalline dagger who mysteriously disappeared after i claimed
I was saying that IF you were a power role that is what would make sense if you were going to have info about Hawk. I thought you were breadcrumbing that you were going to investigate Hawk on N1 and that could only happen if you were scum role coo. I now know you meant you were going to shoot Hawk on N1.In post 731, KainTepes wrote:CD is basically aaccusing me of being SCUM ROLECOP even though it's obvious that scum rolecop also can't investigate in D1, only in Night ONE,,-
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Crystalline Dagger
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Aubrey Mafia Scum
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Aubrey Mafia Scum
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Aubrey Mafia Scum
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Malakittens Survivor
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TBH
Taking a back seat is how I actually get my best reads. I know half the site hates this, but if people give me enough of a leash I'm semi-unstoppable.. (or was in the past...)No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.
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Aubrey Mafia Scum
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Ugh. I'm tired and basically skimmed the last bit. I'm not happy with the push on KT at all. Bang. Hawk. Alisea. and Dagger. What's worse ya'll pushed the claimed power role into revealing which power role he is specifically.
It would have been better for us if KT remained an undeclared role. The mafia then would have either had to try and kill him (which would have been blocked more than likely), or waste their investigator's read on him.
By forcing him to claim, it has given the mafia that much more of an edge now.-
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bangthemafia Goon
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@Mala, can you please explain what WIFOM you wanted to ensure when you stated that coloured sentence? After this post, somehow I had almost started believing that you have soft claimed, so I need to understand your response in this post.In post 707, Hawk wrote:
This is where I thought she soft claimed Vigi.In post 522, Malakittens wrote:
This whole post reeks of rolefishing. (PS never do this ever again if this happens in another game)In post 514, Spade_Ace wrote:
She seems to have bread crumbed (stuff I have marked in green). It can either be:In post 191, Malakittens wrote:I haven't yet decided how I lean on the three you mentioned so far. I liked the Hawk getting us out of RVS, but I don't like his early reads.
Yes KT and IV will both be pia reads for me.
Maybe they will be vigged for my sanity.In post 155, Hawk wrote:Aubrey and Spade: Self-vote in RVS from Alisae to me is an engage me vote not nesscarily null. IME it's often town looking to start ppl talking, accidentally start a wagon, or in general just be different and standout during RVS. So I engaged wanting to see what he had to say.
1) An innocent random town post: If so why did she go to the extra efforts of making the size small.
2) It is a Vig soft claim. If it is, then it is a DUMB DUMB Obvious one. Cos i noticed ryt away while doing the ISO.
3) It is a scum, who wants to later claim she was a Vig. And show proof that she had already breadcrumbed.
4) She is directing the vig to kill someone.
@Mala please explain. If you are indeed Vig then Scum would have definitely noticed it and is purposefully quite about it.
The really, really bad part about this is that I actually think Spade might be town for this.
I'm pretty much not going to reply to half of this, but what I have to do say on the matter is the following:
(however spade made have just fucked it up in one swoop)
This post was to ensure WIFOM.
I have a pretty high patience and sanity level. If you break that level then that's pretty much a hardcore red flag.
If I were to direct vig targets it probably wouldn't be such a bad thing to follow it since I have a 100% success rate of playing vig and winning as town in this setup.
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Another thing is spade still got a pass for not answering about his read on me.This post feels like a distraction.
indicating important information to me in a color.
Note that she says 100% success playing as vig. Listen to her targets makes me think she is town possibly Vigi.
Spade gets town points because despite finding crumbs he does not insinuate she is Vigi which is good for Mala.
Spade later scum reads Mala which I found super Scummy after Mala seemed to be happier with him for not answering her.
Hence why when pressure switched from Spade to Mala from you KT I was like wait wtf is that... don't wagon with spades scumread.-
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Malakittens Survivor
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No. I was done with this whole conversation when I posted what I posted in 522. I'm still done with it.No matter how high the stakes, sooner or later you're just gonna have to go with your gut.
And maybe, just maybe, that'll take you right where you were supposed to be.
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bangthemafia Goon
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@Aubrey, KT was behaving quite jumpily and voteshifting suspiciously AT THAT POINT. Very few (atleast not me) had understood his breadcrumb. And KT HIMSELF said this-In post 791, Aubrey wrote:Ugh. I'm tired and basically skimmed the last bit. I'm not happy with the push on KT at all. Bang. Hawk. Alisea. and Dagger. What's worse ya'll pushed the claimed power role into revealing which power role he is specifically.
It would have been better for us if KT remained an undeclared role. The mafia then would have either had to try and kill him (which would have been blocked more than likely), or waste their investigator's read on him.
By forcing him to claim, it has given the mafia that much more of an edge now.
"Tell me when I at L-1. I need to show the evidence I have against Hawk."
AT THAT POINT Hawk was coming across as quite pro town. So I wanted KT to show his evidence once and for all.
Also, with an impression that Mala had already softclaimed Vig (which she says she didnt), and then KT had already almost halfclaimed, I thought it would be better to have a town!KT fully claiming rather than a scum!KT getting away with a vague half claim of a town PR!
Anyway the damage is done and now lets try to fix it.
I am also gonna write a separate post for Spade now-
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bangthemafia Goon
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But why not repeat your point if I specifically ask a question about a statement I did NOT understand? I am nor interrogeting you dude, just trying to understand what you meantIn post 793, Malakittens wrote:No. I was done with this whole conversation when I posted what I posted in 522. I'm still done with it.-
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Lil Uzi Vert Survivor
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This came off pretty genuine to me. I think scum would take the time to word their frustration better here.In post 605, Alisae wrote:
For fuck sake I didn't ask for you to reveal their role.In post 603, KainTepes wrote:
rolefishing scum detected,, you are next after HAWKIn post 601, Alisae wrote:Why don't you just show it now?
I don't care about that information.
Liking having a justified vote is more of a personality trait than a tell.In post 621, Alisae wrote:Okay I'll explain it.
Scum like to push slips that aren't actually slips because they like having a justified vote.
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This was a terrible way to self-meta KT and that statement just won't hold up overtime. Town will vote you simply because they don't understand your play style and won't make the effort to read you.In post 657, KainTepes wrote:
you are null on my list but okIn post 652, bangthemafia wrote:
I am online. Tell me what imp evidence you hav against HawkIn post 622, KainTepes wrote:
tell me what the scum rationale is for calling you an idiot,,In post 618, Alisae wrote:Kain now you're just misrepresenting things AND you are calling me an idiot?
Yeah, this is not a town response.
not going to talk to you until more town come online though,, no point arguing with scum and having all my important evidence on you be buried in mountains of posts
In post 623, KainTepes wrote:I'm not claiming until more town come online,, no point only claiming to SCUM
i said i'm only claiming until L1
but hawk voted me even though i am CONFIRMED TOWN,, and people who vote me are ALWAYS SCUM,, go see the game here: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=69768
ONLY SCUM VOTED FOR ME IN THAT GAME,, plus a dumb town who cost us the game
Why didn't you vote for Alisae here?In post 661, Aelin wrote:Alisae, you truly are full of holes in your iso.
Looks like Spade wagon has vanished. Mysterious.
You seem confused about how the Spade wagon disappeared. Why didn't you try to find out why by asking around? Do you feel there should still be a wagon on him?
This is genius!In post 663, KainTepes wrote:and with that i will reveal what i plan to do tonight.............
cipher translation: ICHANGEDMYMINDIWILLSHOOTHAWKINSTEADIn post 606, KainTepes wrote:KEJCPIGFOAOKPFKYKNNUJQQVJCYMKPUVGCF is an addition,, to my previous textual statement
and that is what i will do tonight unless Alisae isnt lynched,, upon which i will kill Alisae
UNLESS the jailkeeper jails me tonight, then i cant shoot anyone
How can you say the latter after witnessing the genius that is 663 and 674?In post 664, Aubrey wrote:Was pretty obvious he was a power role seeing as he was so insistent about not claiming until L1, and being so sure he wouldn't get lynched.
Could be scum fake claiming, but I seriously doubt it. Seems to early for that.
Something about this post pinged me. Mainly the tone of the first part.In post 671, bangthemafia wrote:I think with so much hue and cry, its fine if even you claim. Coz if u claim Vig, Mala will hav to do some explaining. When spade exposes her crumb, Mala almost admitted to it.
Also, prove ur claim by showing us ur crumb.
Yes Alissae was super scummy throughout. But this rolecop thing is not a slip in my opinion. Its open info.
And ur so called evidence on hawk is just that he voted for u, eh?
More genius!In post 674, KainTepes wrote:In post 577, KainTepes wrote:KCOCXKIKNCPVGCPFKYKNNUJQQVOCNCMKVVGPUVQPKIJV!!!!!!!!! lol,,"IAMAVIGILANTEANDIWILLSHOOTMALAKITTENSTONIGHT"-
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Lil Uzi Vert Survivor
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Stop doing this. I've seen you pull something similar too many times now.In post 700, Alisae wrote:Dude, I don't care anymore. Lynch me. I'm basicly giving up.
I don't like this response. Why didn't you encourage Alisae not to give up here or try to work with him like KT did?In post 706, Aubrey wrote:
ew.In post 694, Alisae wrote:Sure. I stopped caring now.
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Lil Uzi Vert Survivor
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I think you're town Kain.In post 765, KainTepes wrote:
so UZI once you are online answer this: i am now cleared,, do you have anything to say?In post 246, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:Wish there was a cop in this game, could clear KT instantly.
Don't let anyone direct your shots. Use you head but when in doubt, trust you gut.
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