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Alisae (4)

Dunnstral , ssbm_Kyouko , Debi , Pine ,

TheRealGin-N-Tonic (2)

All Alone , rb ,

Lil Uzi Vert (1)

Zachstralkita ,

Creature (1)

-Grey- ,

Wraith (4)

Ircher , EchoVision , Alisae , TheRealGin-N-Tonic ,

Debi (1)

Wraith ,

Not Voting (6)

Gamma Emerald , drealmerz7 , Human Sequencer , SlickDilinger , Creature , Lil Uzi Vert ,

Day one deadline is Sunday January 15, 4 PM PST. (expired on 2017-01-15 17:00:00)

With 19 alive it takes 10 to lynch!

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[Alisae]

Looks like scum theater.

Nah, I doubt this. I'm TRing Pine for that fake dayvig (assuming it is fake).

Why wouldn't scum fake a vig shot?

I thought it was gone over that this was retarded logic coming from me.

[-Grey-]

The game will end when all threats to town have been eliminated or that is not possible.

Singleball.

How does that confirm singleball? (Although, that is badly worded imo.)

Oh nvm, that does not confirm singleball.

What indicated the possibility of multiball that made you look for confirmation of single all?

I think you slipped.

[ssbm_Kyouko]

oh forgot I was still on Alisae
VOTE: Wraith

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Is asking questions not contributing?

Also VOTE: SSBM_Kyouko
Ignored my RVS vote completely.
The image I posted is something I know Kyouko wouldn't ignore.

The above and the lean town read on Ircher is what I don't like about Alisae.

I really hate the first quote. Asking questions isn't contributing if the questions are filler or questions that don't help get a sense of alignment. It also feels like a bit of a scramble to defend himself off of Dunn's vote which was essentially gut.

The second quote is just a weird way to justify a vote. Kyuoko showed up late to a party which had plenty of things that seem more worthy of a response at the time.

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Alisae, could you tell me why you had the reaction you did to Dunn's gut vote and why Kyouko ignoring your vote caused you to scum read him at the time?

@rb:

Is there anything else I'm missing in regards to Alisae? I'm scum reading Creature but if that can't happen today, I want to be able to completely trust your gut on this.

[-Grey-]

Debi, there aren't many non-town there. Also, the only possible factions are town, mafia/werewolves and SK.

And aliens.
And cults
And tons of other third-party factions

[Lil Uzi Vert]

oh forgot I was still on Alisae
VOTE: Wraith

Why is he your top scum read right now? I think I'm missing something with him as well.

Am I the only one that found his reasoning for voting Debi just stupid and too careless to be scum?

[rb]

Also I can't decide if RB is town or scum.

On one hand he could be trying to derail the Wraith wagon by attacking two of the people that are on it.
On the other hand, would scum really do a push so bad on both me an Gin?

this bad push is going to have you both lynched on days 1 and 2 respectively

[-Grey-]

And, the reason for this totally useless nonsense is _____?

4-5 scum is a more logical coonclusion for the scum ratio. 9 scum in a 19p NORMAL game has probably a 1 in a Million chance AT BEST. (Most likely, there is a 0 zero chance of that happening cuz that makes Day 1 LyLo and could still screw town w/ a perfect game if it's multiball)

4/19 * 3/18 = 12 / (152 + 190) = 12 / 342 = 4 / 114 = 2 / 57 or <4% chance.
VOTE: Debi

Bad vote is bad.

Scum isn't going to deliberately post terrible numbers that can't possibly be true because it'll simply be corrected immediately. It gains them nothing.

Debi's terribad theorycraft is NAI.

[rb]

Also I can't decide if RB is town or scum.

On one hand he could be trying to derail the Wraith wagon by attacking two of the people that are on it.
On the other hand, would scum really do a push so bad on both me an Gin?

this bad push is going to have you both lynched on days 1 and 2 respectively

and if you wanna just tell me your other scumbuddy now that's fine too

[Alisae]

Alisae, could you tell me why you had the reaction you did to Dunn's gut vote and why Kyouko ignoring your vote caused you to scum read him at the time?

It just seemed sudden that he suddenly came in and townread Debi when a lot of people were SRing him at the time.
Like it felt wierd and sudden to me. It wasn't a response to his vote moreso him just saying "Debi is town" that triggered my response.
Like, the timing just seemed off to me.
Tho now that I think about it, Debi seems more VI to me now.

And as for Kyouko, it just seemed like he was ignoring my attempt to get his attention at RVS.

[Alisae]

Also I can't decide if RB is town or scum.

On one hand he could be trying to derail the Wraith wagon by attacking two of the people that are on it.
On the other hand, would scum really do a push so bad on both me an Gin?

this bad push is going to have you both lynched on days 1 and 2 respectively

and if you wanna just tell me your other scumbuddy now that's fine too

Yeah my other scumbuddy is you silly

[rb]

Debi, there aren't many non-town there. Also, the only possible factions are town, mafia/werewolves and SK.

And aliens.
And cults
And tons of other third-party factions

haha it's almost like there's a type of game played on mafiascum where you can expect that there's going to be a limitation on the kinds of factions possible in the game!!!!

[rb]

oh wait, i remember the name of that type of game, it starts with N and ends in ORMAL

[rb]

LOL!!!! I REMEMBER NOW!!!! THE WORD IM LOOKING FOR WAS 'NORMAL' ALL ALONG!!! SILLY ME!!! LOL!!!!!!

[rb]

grey is added to lynchpool

[rb]

the only acceptable votes for today are Grey, Alisae, Gin

[Alisae]

Why am I laughing so hard atm.

[rb]

Also I can't decide if RB is town or scum.

On one hand he could be trying to derail the Wraith wagon by attacking two of the people that are on it.
On the other hand, would scum really do a push so bad on both me an Gin?

this bad push is going to have you both lynched on days 1 and 2 respectively

and if you wanna just tell me your other scumbuddy now that's fine too

Yeah my other scumbuddy is you silly

^ scum response

[Lil Uzi Vert]

Alisae, could you tell me why you had the reaction you did to Dunn's gut vote and why Kyouko ignoring your vote caused you to scum read him at the time?

It just seemed sudden that he suddenly came in and townread Debi when a lot of people were SRing him at the time.
Like it felt wierd and sudden to me. It wasn't a response to his vote moreso him just saying "Debi is town" that triggered my response.
Like, the timing just seemed off to me.
Tho now that I think about it, Debi seems more VI to me now.

And as for Kyouko, it just seemed like he was ignoring my attempt to get his attention at RVS.

So those feelings are what promoted you to ask the question in 167? I'm not seeing how it would at the moment.

I ignore your attempts all the time though. Why was it different for him?

[Alisae]

no 167 was prompted by Debi's response.

And that's because you're an anti-social meanie -_-
You don't ignore me all the time...

[TheRealGin-N-Tonic]

rb I can't sleep, yell at me so I can cry myself to sleep

[-Grey-]

I agree. Assuming 9 scum right off the bat implies foreknowledge of the setup

Welcome to my scum pile.

[-Grey-]

So my primary conclusion is that Debi likely has some kind of setup foreknowledge to be making such a hypothetical so early. My secondary is that if Debi has setup foreknowledge, then her hypothetical implies that her foreknowledge is that the game is multiball. But the secondary can't be confirmed until she flips.

Either way the primary is enough for me to put down an initial vote.

If she had knowledge of the setup, HER NUMBERS WOULDN'T BE IMPOSSIBLE.

[Alisae]

dw Gin, Grey is here to entertain us