Open 661: Pick Your Poison [Game Over]

[Titus]

Hi.

[Titus]

Welcome titus and vax!

This game is a shitpost slog. Good luck reading it.

Thoughts on TB, nn30 and cheesy?

Who said I was reading it?

[Titus]

Well we would hope you do...

Also

Hi Titus!

Nah. We don't. Who wants to relive toxic crap?

[Titus]

Well we would hope you do...

Also

Hi Titus!

Nah. We don't. Who wants to relive toxic crap?

Well, mostly people reading the game in order to discern alignments. So, town.

You can discern my alignment by how I scumhunt. Why hurt people?

[Titus]

We switched Vedith for she-Vedith.
Nice

Flattered, but Vedith lacks moon access.

[Titus]

Well we would hope you do...

Also

Hi Titus!

Nah. We don't. Who wants to relive toxic crap?

Well, mostly people reading the game in order to discern alignments. So, town.

You can discern my alignment by how I scumhunt. Why hurt people?

LOL. Town confirmed, yup, definitely.

What are your reads? Why am I town?

[Titus]

@Titus - how do you scum hunt w/o reading the game?

VCA and interactions after I arrive

[Titus]

I didn't say anything about self meta...

[Titus]

Titus, Realeo is almost confirmed scum, please comment on that

How is that?

[Titus]

Titus, Realeo is almost confirmed scum, please comment on that

VOTE: Snowman

This is my problem with you. You have given almost no analysis throughout this game and are essentially actively lurking. If you think someone is almost confirmed scum, why didn't you place a vote on that person?

While I'm waiting for real's replacement, I want to hear more from you.

^^^ town

[Titus]

Nerd it up. Nerd it up. Nerd it up up up and fire.

[Titus]

Nothing yet. How is he scum to you?

[Titus]

Ehhh why you feel slimy to me LQ?

[Titus]

Not liking all these pre-flips.

Can you document which ones so I can analyze?

[Titus]

Not liking all these pre-flips.

Can you document which ones so I can analyze?

So quick to take Gamma's word for it?

VOTE: LQ

[Titus]

Realeo/Vedith, Realeo/nn30 and tojam, etc. It's all just building off of one fight to produce a shitty lump of associations.

Specific posts please

[Titus]

Daycop: LickedyQuickety

[Titus]

I got a result.

Sucm.

[Titus]

So, what reaction was I trying to draw, and why vote me if you presume I am scumhunting you?

[Titus]

Not my style. Did you try and fakeclaim cop or something?

Why are you trying to guess the reaction I am looking for?

[Titus]

They why do I need to read your ISO before daycopping you? You know I hate go fish.

You also just said you had no idea what reaction to do, so you did the most expected one and omgused.

[Titus]

I caught you in less than 20 posts before, and likely have again.

This setup is open. No daycop.

[Titus]

Again, you still talk to me as if I am town. You know the daycop is fake, thus no obligation to vote.

So why are you voting a townread?

[Titus]

Titus, Realeo is almost confirmed scum, please comment on that

VOTE: Snowman

This is my problem with you. You have given almost no analysis throughout this game and are essentially actively lurking. If you think someone is almost confirmed scum, why didn't you place a vote on that person?

While I'm waiting for real's replacement, I want to hear more from you.

^^^ town

Why?

Doesn't let the game stall while waiting for a replacement and the frustrations with Snarky are like every town ever, especially where Snarky is town.

[Titus]

Blah. Seems like I killed the game by voting LQ scum. Sorry.

[Titus]

Grey, what letters do you think I am?

[Titus]

Wait this revived, reading now/in the morning

[Titus]

Hey Grey, I know who the cop is and it's not TB. I got your message. You got mine?

VOTE: TB

Lets just say subtlety is not a strongsuit the real cop employs well.

Time to read for detail.

[Titus]

Grey is my homeboy.

Hi ff. Didn't see you.

Not worried.

[Titus]

Hey Grey, I know who the cop is and it's not TB. I got your message. You got mine?

VOTE: TB

Lets just say subtlety is not a strongsuit the real cop employs well.

Time to read for detail.

Look, I was trying to save this play for d2, but if you insist I'll do it now.

I counterclaim ThinkBig

VOTE: ThinkBig

I vouch.

[Titus]

Just revote. Gotta go. No hammers until i fully caught up.

[Titus]

No one hammer until Grey and I sync up.

I like him. He may get a lifetime moon pass.

[Titus]

Jesus, did things go downhill here for talent after I left or fucking what. If he softed a role that you later claim, then he

knows

you are scum regardless of what happens. It leaves him free to go after the people who are defending you so that on day 2 when he flips cop, we come after your ass and we have a good chance of taking out another scumbag on day 1.

Dude, knock this off. Harry Potter and Azhaban is talking. Keep comments like this to yourself until tomorrow.

[Titus]

@Culted, I think order of claims is pretty important.

Why?

If a counterclaim came up.

"Oh I soft PR, he already claimed cop"

Like I get wanting to wait a day before counterclaiming, but it makes no fucking sense that you'd soft like that if you are the cop.

It really, really, really doesn't add up.

To quote Savage Garden, I will fly you to the moon and back, if you'll be my baby.

[Titus]

Titus, please tell me what I'm missing here that makes you so sure Grey is the cop

Moon Walkers vouch for each other. Enough said.

[Titus]

Fair enough, I do not want a repeat of that game.

To be fair, that was the game that made me coin townbeard. The guy you tunnelled wrong picked town over scum 8 times, and was town. I was convinced 2 scum. I cannot blame you, but don't let ego bother you.

@LQ, I would grab video but out at dinner.

@Grey, Let me finish dinner.

[Titus]

@Titus, am I Scum?

Probably. Need to read.



@Snarky, I have. We march to a different drum. If Grey feels better, he can fill you in. He just needed backup, and I am a good backup.

[Titus]

Shit happens. Figure out what went wrong and learn.

[Titus]

Hahahaha.

[Titus]

Hahahaha.

<3

It means a lot to me that you can make this comment while eating.

<3 u 2

Grey, darling, reads for the road to discuss?

[Titus]

Hahahaha.

<3

It means a lot to me that you can make this comment while eating.

<3 u 2

Grey, darling, reads for the road to discuss?

One of SS or LQ are likely scum, but not both.

LQ's push of SS wasn't necessary for distancing.

Pretty sure FF is town. You're the little townie that could.

Gamma is probtown.

Down with this based on these pages. SS prob town too.

[Titus]

I won't. I still have half the playerlist and knowledge ThinkBig is scum.

[Titus]

Vote Count 1.3

Cheesy:

LicketyQuickety, nn30, ThinkBig (L-4)

ThinkBig:

aronagrundy, culted, Gamma Emerald (L-4)

PenguinPower:

tojam2 (L-6)

tojam2:

PenguinPower (L-6)

Realeo:

Vedith (L-6)

Vedith:

Cheesy (L-6)

Not voting:

alban, SnarkySnowman, Realeo

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Night will fall in (expired on 2016-12-21 14:50:00).

Cheesy probtown.

[Titus]

Vote Count 1.3

Cheesy:

LicketyQuickety, nn30, ThinkBig (L-4)

ThinkBig:

aronagrundy, culted, Gamma Emerald (L-4)

PenguinPower:

tojam2 (L-6)

tojam2:

PenguinPower (L-6)

Realeo:

Vedith (L-6)

Vedith:

Cheesy (L-6)

Not voting:

alban, SnarkySnowman, Realeo

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Night will fall in (expired on 2016-12-21 14:50:00).

Cheesy probtown.

LOL, based on what? A VC from so early in the game? You are already confbiasing that I am scum.

Dude, I am leaving you for last. I'll review you overnight.

[Titus]

LQ, you want me to townread you. Vote Grey. No questions asked. The only way I vote you tomorrow then is if there's a guilty on you, which means dumb scum.

[Titus]

I meant vote with Grey.

Damn typos. Omfg.

[Titus]

Enticing should do the trick. He wants me to townread him. We want his vote on ThinkBig.

Win win.

[Titus]

LQ, you want me to townread you. Vote Grey. No questions asked. The only way I vote you tomorrow then is if there's a guilty on you, which means dumb scum.

Err... thanks?

I'm actually waiting for 2 things right now:

1) for that VC to be corrected (will check that now)
2) to see if there is a third Cop claim.

There will not be. You know I am a setup nerd.

[Titus]

LQ, if I troll claim, would you vote TB?

[Titus]

Great. Neither Grey nor TB is baccking down. One of them is scum. I know Grey is town.

What stops you from voting? Seriously man.

[Titus]

Enticing should do the trick. He wants me to townread him. We want his vote on ThinkBig.

Win win.

Right, like you're going to talk him into bussing.

Uhg. Stop, you don't know how I play.

Dude, Grey is mini me. He's going to tunnel you until you vote the known scum.

[Titus]

Great. Neither Grey nor TB is baccking down. One of them is scum. I know Grey is town.

What stops you from voting? Seriously man.

I think I gave it in my second reason.

Fine, you need a third claim. I am the cop too.

[Titus]

Now vote le scum k?

[Titus]

Great. Neither Grey nor TB is baccking down. One of them is scum. I know Grey is town.

What stops you from voting? Seriously man.

I think I gave it in my second reason.

Fine, you need a third claim. I am the cop too.

You don't believe me do you? Yes conditions are right for a third claim.

Me cop too.

You got your third claim. Now vote TB.

I will go to the ends of the Earth for Grey.

[Titus]

Come on LQ. I think big, but even I'm not naive enough to think there will be a third claim.

Revoke your claim, you've done more harm than good.

Come on Mulder. He is scum. Let's go.

[Titus]

I am down to vote whenever. I was giving Titus some room to do what she does.

Vote TB

LQ will not hammer.

[Titus]

Do i need more gifs to convince you not confbiasing? Maybe kittens?

Every minute that goes by without a hammer, an angel dies.

[Titus]

VOTE: Vote:Think

Is that the hammer? If so it was way too premature. We have days before EOD.

L minus 1

[Titus]

I will go to the ends of the Earth for Grey.

And that's the very thing that is terribly wrong with your play.

Nope. That's the one thing right about my play. Everyone knows where they stand and what to do.

[Titus]

Told you LQ.

[Titus]

Yeah, you are not the cop. A cop never self hammers here.

[Titus]

Yeah, you are not the cop. A cop never self hammers here.

You know, he is pretty green (not meaning alignment necessarily).

He'll flip red.

[Titus]

Too bad I was town. Now tomorrow, lynch the actual scum.

If that's true, you are going on my avoid list for that hammer.

If that's true?

Titus, I believe I have a reason to Scum read grey now, what do you think?

Nope.

[Titus]

Too bad I was town. Now tomorrow, lynch the actual scum.

If that's true, you are going on my avoid list for that hammer.

Why's that? Once I flip, it proves that you're scum.

Your alignment is not indicative of mine.

You faked a cop claim. Regardless of your intentions, it was bad not to walk it back when given the opportunity.

yup, exactly why I didn't want to hammer.

Exactly why you should have.

Take your confbias out. What cop self hammers, denying town information, when the other choice is a liar?

None.

[Titus]

Grey, let's quickly break down everyone else. I will not have your brain tomorrow.

Let's suppose LQ town and LQ scum.

[Titus]

Too bad I was town. Now tomorrow, lynch the actual scum.

If that's true, you are going on my avoid list for that hammer.

Why's that? Once I flip, it proves that you're scum.

Your alignment is not indicative of mine.

You faked a cop claim. Regardless of your intentions, it was bad not to walk it back when given the opportunity.

yup, exactly why I didn't want to hammer.

That's bullshit dude, my post has nothing to do with the hammer and everything to do with his fakeclaim.

Oh you of little faith.

I find you hilarious, man of fenceshitting little faith.

[Titus]

Too bad I was town. Now tomorrow, lynch the actual scum.

If that's true, you are going on my avoid list for that hammer.

Why's that? Once I flip, it proves that you're scum.

Your alignment is not indicative of mine.

You faked a cop claim. Regardless of your intentions, it was bad not to walk it back when given the opportunity.

yup, exactly why I didn't want to hammer.

Exactly why you should have.

Take your confbias out. What cop self hammers, denying town information, when the other choice is a liar?

None.

Did I mention that TB is not a seasoned player yet?

Did I leave the impression that mattered?

[Titus]

Grey, let's quickly break down everyone else. I will not have your brain tomorrow.

Let's suppose LQ town and LQ scum.

I haven't interacted much with those I haven't already provided reads on.

Intellectual grudge match.

SS Cheesy FF town let's gooooo

[Titus]

VOTE: thinkbig

I feel like post 70 is them egging lickety on to go after realeo.

Town.
If agrundy is right, lq and realeo town too

[Titus]

I don't have a welcome mat because no one ever seems to visit.

Perhaps you should invite me for vodka drinks tonight?

[Titus]

Grey, let's quickly break down everyone else. I will not have your brain tomorrow.

Let's suppose LQ town and LQ scum.

I haven't interacted much with those I haven't already provided reads on.

Intellectual grudge match.

SS Cheesy FF town let's gooooo

LQ scum = SS town
LQ town = SS scum

FF town period. Full stop.
Cheesy... Gun to my head.... Town.

Why the dichotomy.

[Titus]

Titus, did you see that cheesy is The_Jester?

No...should I care?

[Titus]

Grey, let's quickly break down everyone else. I will not have your brain tomorrow.

Let's suppose LQ town and LQ scum.

I haven't interacted much with those I haven't already provided reads on.

Intellectual grudge match.

SS Cheesy FF town let's gooooo

LQ scum = SS town
LQ town = SS scum

FF town period. Full stop.
Cheesy... Gun to my head.... Town.

Why the dichotomy.

Because I think SS is Scum, but I don't see him being scum with LQ.

Already touched on this earlier.

I got SS as town. We got issues there.

[Titus]

I think toejam is good 4 scum.

[Titus]

I think nn30 would be the last

[Titus]

jfc

who the fuck claimed cop here

I claimed first and Gerry CC'd.

After Gerry CC'ed, I did.

I cced toooooooooo

[Titus]

Wait Gerry CCed too?

[Titus]

It's complete lunarcy.

Love your sig Grey.

<<< is a lawyer.

[Titus]

Think Big, the move was decent for scum. You played well. I didn't pick up on you until the claim debacle. I hope you had fun.

You and Grey are both enjoyable newbies, and likely fresh faces that will give me a run. Same with nn30.

[Titus]

It's complete lunarcy.

Love your sig Grey.

<<< is a lawyer.

Have you ever seen the movie Seeking Justice?

I think you might like it.

The hungry rabbit jumps.

Nope, but I will now. When I have time.

[Titus]

I'd never pull the stunts I did here if I were town. If I actually was town, I'd almost recommend a PL against me

You have a decent mentor/instincts. Daychat and you would be better.

[Titus]

This was my first time playing scum.

Hey, guess what? Playing as Scum is about getting X amount of Townies lynched. Remember that.

That is true. And partially why I claimed cop. It prevents there from being too many confirmed townies.

I think this soft clears me. Anyone else think so?

Not into this type of wifom. Tb is smart enough to fake it.

[Titus]

This was my first time playing scum.

Hey, guess what? Playing as Scum is about getting X amount of Townies lynched. Remember that.

That is true. And partially why I claimed cop. It prevents there from being too many confirmed townies.

I think this soft clears me. Anyone else think so?

Oh hell no lol.

You know, I think now would be a good time to tell us if you were just pulling a gambit or not.

Why ask that?

[Titus]

I'd never pull the stunts I did here if I were town. If I actually was town, I'd almost recommend a PL against me

You have a decent mentor/instincts. Daychat and you would be better.

Yeah. If only we had daychat, I think I could have survived longer.

You'd have survived longer by claiming a role that wasn't actually in the game.

That would have carried you until massclaim, and maybe a lynch after.

Playing for survival is really quite weak play IMHO.

Depends on context. Sometimes diving is the better play, sometimes survival is.

[Titus]

Thinkbig, you got a lot to learn. If we are ever scumbuddies, I will tell you my philosphy

[Titus]

Oh TB, docs and rbs in this game are silent

[Titus]

Oh TB, docs and rbs in this game are silent

What do you mean by silent?

No one gets a message saying roleblocked.
Docs do not get a pm saying your target was healed.

I started on sc2mafia.

[Titus]

Oh TB, docs and rbs in this game are silent

What do you mean by silent?

No one gets a message saying roleblocked.
Docs do not get a pm saying your target was healed.

I started on sc2mafia.

Ah. That I knew.

I started on debate.org. The culture there is far different than it is here.

How so

[Titus]

Yeah, I am the real cop. I have a result.

[Titus]

I would like to sit on it a bit and claim it later in the day.

VOTE: toejam

[Titus]

I should not answer that as it will out whether or not I investigated him.

I felt wierd about being misleading but it worked well. Grey picked up what I threw down.

[Titus]

Well you should detail it for everyone else to discuss it.

[Titus]

I highly doubt LQ scum though. He probably shoots me.

[Titus]

Btw, any hammer on anyone before I claim my result is a turbo lynch.

The innocent child should claim when anyone is at L minus 1, if we have one.

The vig should shoot and claim tomorrow.

[Titus]

He may shoot you, but over a claimed cop?

If I explained why, it would be anti-town but yes I believe LQ would have.

[Titus]

Again, I won't be commenting much until midday. It is a good method to start conversations. I will try to weave answers in my posts.

Thoughts on toeham?

[Titus]

Well we all know if Titus pushes this lynch, she's scum. I can prove my innocence any time I need.

Interesting, why are you supposing I checked you when all i did was vote to start conversation?

[Titus]

Grey, apologies for the misread. I still don't understand why you had to soft like that, but in the end that play worked out great.

I'm waiting, in the meanwhile, for Titus plan to play out a bit. Content from me towards end of day.

I am not outing my result until you give content now or I am forced.

[Titus]

Then why are you not voting LQ?

[Titus]

Lq is very very likely town

Why?

[Titus]

LQ, who is scum baby doll?

[Titus]

*ignores the thread*

VOTE: nn30

[Titus]

Ok, now that we got some drama...time to out my result.

LQ is town.

I went for a controversial clear to make the game near impossible for scum.

Now, if we have an IC they should claim.

[Titus]

Ok, now that we got some drama...time to out my result.

LQ is town.

I went for a controversial clear to make the game near impossible for scum.

Now, if we have an IC they should claim.

You also softed that you were going to investigate me via the vodka statement.

Wasn't deliberate there. I had not decided yet. I did leave a big tipoff to Grey telling him it was ok to CC TB. I figured you would have seen that if scum.

[Titus]

CONFIRMED BITCHES!!!!

That means I have one game day to either solve this game or do as much damage to Scum as possible.

I think it is nn30/toejam, but I want the information to be sure.

We know vig is the second PR. So the non vig PR should out today, to stop dumb vig shots and to only shoot within the pool.

[Titus]

Note to Self: If I ever need LQ stream of consciousness call him conftown.

[Titus]

Titus,

I think Tojam is either Scum or Vig.

Well the last pr should claim PR to avoid being vigged. Since it is not you, that puts us at 4 conftown, you me, last PR, vig (who remains hidden). That will sort itself out against 2 goons needing 4 mislynches. Every kill will be dictated and the vigs should naturally reduce suspects

[Titus]

We have 10 alive 2 scum
We mislynch, shoot a suspect wrong, scum murder a confirmed

3 confirmed, 2 scum, 2 mislynch suspects
Mislynch, scum shoot

2 confirmed, 2 scum, 1 mislynch

5p lylo.

That's the worst that happens if the fourth PR outs today. That should happen.

[Titus]

Sorry for making you do that FF, but I think the thread is in a better place for it.

[Titus]

Sorry for what Titus, checking me? I need it now and then. My brother used to be around to do it but we stopped about the same time.

Umm I checked LQ, knew he was town, and had you case him anyway. That combined with deliberate misdirection was hard.

[Titus]

Ok, so we have LQ Titus SS and Toejam as conftown.

Gamma nn30 looks good to me as the scumteam.

FF is saying a lot in a hard spot, so i will pencil him in as town temporarily.

[Titus]

Fair enough, I guess as an IC you have the right to play whatever way you want because you know eventually it won't matter.

I would ask that we allow for some time for the town block to discuss the way to move forward with the day before we hammer anyone.

We lynch in the box, anywhere but you.
We vig in the box, anywhere but you.

Easy.

[Titus]

Worse case scenario is lylo in 2 days.

[Titus]

Lolol

[Titus]

I like that. I am working on my sibling's Christmas present. I would type it here, but they read MS.

[Titus]

Go ahead.

[Titus]

Adorable.

[Titus]

Really toejam, you killed my biggest TR?

[Titus]

Ok, vote the bad guy.

[Titus]

@tojam2,

IMO, arona has too much depth in their posts to be Scum.

Besides associations, why do you think they are Scum?

Really, you have played w scum me...

[Titus]

Our vig cannot shoot if we miss. Intelligent thoughts in the morning.

[Titus]

VOTE: aronagrundy

[Titus]

I thought i posted here. Bah new elyears.

[Titus]

@Umlaut, they'll still have banging headaches around about now, I stayed sober, I am fine

Oh yeah, Happy New Year All!

Happy new year. May this year be different from the last.

Agreed and well wishes.

[Titus]

Ugh. Kinda wanna policy GE, because they are posting elsewhere.

[Titus]

VC please

Gut and experimenting.

[Titus]

VOTE: Gamma

[Titus]

Cheesy, using mafia terminology is not using a buzzword. Using a term but conveying nothing is just using buzzwords.

[Titus]

Hi. Holding vote.

[Titus]

Hi.