* Starting to share the opinion several others have already expressed that Creature immediately trying to peg the game as Singleball looks a little off. It took him until someone called him out on it and fifty or so posts to realize he was apparently mistaken?
* Alisae not reading the rules and voting Gin in #46/48 for mentioning scum daychat is another strike against him. It wouldn't look bad by itself but combined with the more egregious posts by him (JFC I keep writing "her" because of the username and avatar)...
* Ircher's RVS vote on drealmerz reminds me that dreal still has yet to post in this thread. Is he the only one left?
* I agree with Pine's #85 where Creature accusing "scum theater" (weak to begin with) and then unvoting Gin shortly after because a couple players called him out for it looks bad.
* I definitely misread Debi's #86 and gripped too hard to a fundamentally wrong conclusion. I thought she was legit setup-speculating but she was just proposing a really out-there hypothetical where Gin+Pine could feasibly end up scum together. It wasn't an accusation. My bad, my bad hard.
* Creature's logic in #103 seems sound for me which is why I gave him a pass for the Singleball speculation. Still...I dunno
* Now seeing my egregious mistake re: Debi I think Ircher fell into the same trap in his #106. Plus I've liked/understood the motivation for a lot of Ircher's posts since then. Ircher is one of my stronger townreads at the moment. He was right in that it was needless fluff though, I don't really know why Debi brought it up in the first place.
* Kyouko's #173 is a little odd. She says my vote on Debi is a "good vote" (I assume he's being sarcastic). But he completely ignores Ircher, who voted earlier than I did for an identical or almost identical reason. What?
* Gin comes off as a voice of reason a lot.
* Don't like Alisae's #225
* Echo is another of my stronger initial townreads. His #230 is part of that.
* As of the last five pages IIRC Debi never acknowledged my early attack on her, but did for Ircher. This strikes me as odd. This referring to her #242 in particular which reminded of this. Which in that post it's also odd that she is in fact assuming multiple scum factions. Gin points this out immediately after which is another reason on the pile to townread Gin.
* I've already said that RB's entrance to the game rubbed me the wrong way pretty strongly and I still don't like it. Him going after Gin doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me and looks bad, especially since this re-read has definitely reinforced my townlean on Gin.
* Though RB's #278 is good. More reason to prefer the Alisae wagon over him ATM.
* I have another strong initial townread for Grey. His early posts (#290-325 range) are what planted the seeds for that and he's been goodposting ever since.
* Which makes RB's sudden turn against Grey in #315 look mad suspect to me
* Alisae's scumread on Dunn in #363 is garbage. It was garbage to begin with, and it's even worse later on here.
* So I checked the front of the thread just in case and Kyouko is suddenly scummy to me. He horribly miscounts the Alisae wagon in the present somehow (#678) (where she claims Alisae is L-1 but is actually L-5), and I swear I remember her also doing this earlier in the thread. I'm right - #368 (less egregious, she says Alisae is L-2 but she is actually L-3). In fact, it those posts were her two most recent ones. What's going on here?
* As of #384 RB is seriously just throwing out accusations with zero explanation. It's not scumhunting at all but he seems convinced Gin is scum for no adequately-explained reason and then pegs people with guilt by association, also for no reason.
* I've already mentioned RB's possible slip from #309 which Grey points out in #395
* Gin's #397 even
more
reason to townread him
* Alisae STILL clings to the garbage Dunnstal scumread as of #409
* RB with the non-answer ad hominem to Grey's insight in #410
* Dunnstral returns in the #410-430 range. Would be nice if he elaborated on some of those reads.
* In #434 Alisae labels Debi VI without that much to go on and then draws scumreads based on that label. Inherently flawed logic leading to flawed conclusions which looks like fake scumhunting to me. This is the difference between players who get legit scumreads on me (Grey, Ircher, Echo) and players who don't, and is another big part of why I strongly scumread Alisae
* More goodposting from Gin in #442
* I still don't know what Alisae means by "'gun to my head' townreads"
* Alisae's #450 more bullshit reasons to townread someone. These are fake-ass reads.
* As of #455 Pine's reads line up with mine which is a good sign, but he hasn't posted/overtly scumhunted enough for me to be comfortable is townreading him yet as opposed to Grey, Ircher, Echo, or Gin
* The exchange between #457-474 looks even worse now than it did to me at the time. So Alisae's scumread on me in the first is odd and rather baseless as I pointed out in my last post. She's still clinging to it and claims that she's pushing for my lynch today (weak-ass effort). But based on one reply from Pine she's willing to 180 on her read on him and vote for him instead? And then jumps off and back onto me again after another single response from Pine? And then flip-flops yet again after Pine's shortest reply yet? This is bullshit. Her reads consistently come across to me as fake and her scumhunting/voting doesn't feel sincere at all.
* Interesting to note that in a vacuum I also expressed (joking) frustration at a bunch of pages appearing while absent in #481 but it apparently doesn't come across as a townslip to Alisae, in contrast to what makes her "townread" Echo in #450. I'll have to see how it develops later and come back to this. Human Sequencer does this same thing in #487. Another thing to keep an eye out for. EDIT: Nope, no reaction whatsoever to either. Alisae's reads are FAKE AS FUCK
* RB #491 apparently unwilling to read posts longer than a few lines. How is this pro-town behavior? I mean, he could be joking but come on
* Now that I'm much more confident in my Alisae scumread Creature's labeling Alisae lynchbait and (successfully) trying to derail that wagon looks pretty bad. Yet at the same time it would be extremely risky for him to put his neck out for a buddy so blatantly so I'm conflicted here.
* HS comes out swinging pages 20-21 which is a good sign
* RB being a stopped clock in #552/553
* Creature's #565 is
really
strange. Is he softclaiming a backup role that's not self-aware? That doesn't make a whole lot of sense for a Normal setup.
* Ircher clearly has a hard scumread on me and won't let go. I honestly don't blame him but don't let yourself get tunnel vision dude. That said his activity page 23 onward is largely goodposting
* Oh yeah GE and dreal both have yet to post in the thread. Any more?
* I generally get townish vibes from HS but he seems to look a lot at Grey for guidance. Which I guess is fine because right now he's my strongest townread
* I disagree strongly with Ircher's #598. If you "Policy Unlynch" all players you classify as "lynchbait" D1 then it gives incentive for scum to deliberately badpost.
* I think I'm comfortable giving light town vibes to Zach as of #504. Seems to be actually scumhunting and reading along in contrast to certain other players
* I don't think it's a coincidence that after Creature's pushing to not lynch players he deems lynchbait and Ircher's #598 echoing the same sentiment Alisae starts actively pushing the narrative that she's lynchbait. More points to HS for pointing that out first
* And after HS switches his vote it seems like Alisae stops bothering to fight and resorts to shitposting and mockingly echoing accusations other players have directed at her
* rb STILL clings to his baseless Gin scumread as of #663
* Even MORE goodposting from Grey #671
* I don't get what Creature is trying to say in #677 at all? How is my last post a "towncase" for Alisae? Why even say that if you're not going to bother elaborating? And yet I'm again torn because there is just no way Creature would stick his neck out blatantly yet again for a buddy at this point.
So so far
Townreads
Grey
Gin
Echo
Ircher
Soft Townreads
HS
Zach
Pine
Murky
Creature
Kyouko
Debi
Scumreads
Alisae
RB
Fucking finally caught up. Pretty damn confident in putting my vote here
Vote: Alisae
I'm pretty okay with a RB lynch too but definitely prefer this one.
Taking a long break.