OPEN 663: STACK THE DECK (GAME OVER)


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Post Post #600 (ISO) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 10:56 am

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In post 582, ThinkBig wrote:
In post 577, Antihuman wrote:@TB you also left out Dunnstral from your list again, wtf is up with that?
:facepalm: on my part. I just copied and pasted the last read list.
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Post Post #601 (ISO) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 10:58 am

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In post 582, ThinkBig wrote:
In post 577, Antihuman wrote:@TB you also left out Dunnstral from your list again, wtf is up with that?
:facepalm: on my part. I just copied and pasted the last read list.
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Post Post #602 (ISO) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 10:58 am

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In post 592, Desperado wrote:Really don't like AH linking Alisae and ThinkBig like he is. AH-ThinkBig team gaining steam.
Can you point out where he's linking tb and alisae?
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Post Post #603 (ISO) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 10:59 am

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In post 602, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 592, Desperado wrote:Really don't like AH linking Alisae and ThinkBig like he is. AH-ThinkBig team gaining steam.
Can you point out where he's linking tb and alisae?
In post 574, Antihuman wrote:Honest to god, I wasn't really up to lynching you when I entered the game but now I seriously have reasons to see you hang, there are just too many discrepancies. I also wouldn't be surprised at Tb-Alisae team. Both are pushing me on bullshit reasoning and townread each other based on thin air, looks like a well coordinated last minute mislynch push.
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Post Post #604 (ISO) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:08 am

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Alisae if AH flips town, who would be your go to scum read?
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Post Post #605 (ISO) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:08 am

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In post 604, Superhans wrote:Alisae if AH flips town, who would be your go to scum read?
The person I've been pushing as Traitor
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Post Post #606 (ISO) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:09 am

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Or better way of phrasing question:
if AH IS scum, who would you guess could be his scum partner,
if TB IS scum, who would you guess could be his scum partner,
if Both turn out to be town, who would you guess could be scum?
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Post Post #607 (ISO) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:12 am

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In post 561, Realeo wrote:VOTE: TB

I would move to the Desperado wagon 4 deadline. Not satisfied with the case at either AH or Desperado, but I Tr AH.
y do you townread AH? Has this town read changed after his most recent posts?
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Post Post #608 (ISO) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:14 am

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I know one thing for sure, that is ThinkBig and Antihuman AREN'T scum together.
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Post Post #609 (ISO) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:49 am

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DAY 1 VC 009


Antihuman ( 5 ) -
(Gamma Emerald, Desperado, ssbm_Kyouko, ThinkBig, Alisae)
ThinkBig ( 3 ) -
(Antihuman, Superhans, Realeo)
Desperado ( 2 ) -
(Dunnstral, davesaz)
Realeo ( 1 ) -
(algebra)

Not Voting ( 1 ) -
(Kop)

Seven to lynch.
(expired on 2017-01-05 01:30:02) remain until deadline.

Prodding Kop and Gamma Emerald.
Let me know if the VC is incorrect for some reason.

No deadline extension.
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Post Post #610 (ISO) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:55 am

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In post 606, Superhans wrote:Or better way of phrasing question:
if AH IS scum, who would you guess could be his scum partner,
If AH is scum, my guess would be Gamma.
If AH is town, then desperado is most likely the traitor.
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Post Post #611 (ISO) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:58 am

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In post 610, ThinkBig wrote:
In post 606, Superhans wrote:Or better way of phrasing question:
if AH IS scum, who would you guess could be his scum partner,
If AH is scum, my guess would be Gamma.
If AH is town, then desperado is most likely the traitor.
NO ONE WAS TALKING TO YOU! :oops:

My scumreads don't really change if AH is town or scum. It'll just make me rethink TB
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Post Post #612 (ISO) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:53 pm

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AH what's your opinion on Gamma's vote on Desperado, and Desperado's sudden swap from voting Gamma to you?

Gamma voted Desperado, if Gamma is scum he wouldn't start the cw on his partner
Desperado swapped to Antihuman, might make sesnse
if
Gamma is scum, AH is town, and Desp is traitor.
AH wagon would also be cw to scum in this case.
Question is: Does Gamma have any plausible scumbuddies besides AH? Desperado is out unless he's traitor, so we'd need 1 more (or 2 if he's not the traitor).
Let's assume scum aren't going to hard bus their teammate in the middle of D1, so we look for a partner that wasn't on the Gamma wagon at it's apex
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DAY 1 VC 005


Gamma Emerald ( 5 ) -
(Superhans, ThinkBig, Realeo, Desperado, Kop)
Realeo ( 3 ) -
(ssbm_Kyouko, algebra, Secret Agent Jin)
Desperado ( 2 ) -
(ReubenWasFine, Gamma Emerald)
Secret Agent Jin ( 1 ) -
(davesaz)

Not Voting ( 1 ) -
(Dunnstral)

Seven to lynch.
(expired on 2017-01-05 01:30:02) remain until deadline.

Seeking a replacement for ReubenWasFine.
Kyouko - conftown to myself
algebra - conftown
RWF/AH - We're assuming this slot is the town cw to scum for this exercise

SAJ/Alisae - was not on the Gamma wagon but when he comes in he discredits AH case and soon after Gamma joins him in picking apart AH case to start a new wagon on AH. Replaces out. Alisae Says he doesn't like TB but soon after catching up a bit more says he doesn't like AH's push and votes AH. AH could be the counter to Gamma if Alisae and Gamma are buds
davesaz - Comes in to catch up to a 5 person Gamma wagon with a very flat reaction. Possibly measured response to scumpartner's wagon. His next post looks at the gamma wagon for opportunistic votes, says he's still catching up but points to Realeo and Desperado as being similar to Gamma, as if to offer them as alternatives. Dave speculates Gamma is the cw to scum!Desperado. HOWEVER, Dave in 374 has a similar reaction to the popup of AH's wagon, indicating to me he is unaware of either wagon's alignment, unless the team is Gamma/dave/AH
Dunnstral - No reaction to the gamma wagon, is still focusing on her own SR of davesaz. Reads as towny to me.


I'm thinking AH is not very likely to flip scum unless he's teamed with davesaz
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Gamma. Desperado I think is unlikely to be traitor based on the way he got onto the Gamma wagon.
This leaves me with a scumteam speculation of [Gamma, davesaz, Alisae/AH]. Kop could be blind spot scum still. I think Gamma's flip will be most telling because it was both the cw Realeo/Desperado and had it's own cw in the AH wagon.

VOTE: Gamma

Kop do you have scumreads? Noticed a lot of you asking other people about their reads in your ISO and a lot of commenting on questions directed at other players but not much in the way of substance
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Post Post #613 (ISO) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 12:54 pm

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Oh the very top line of my post is something that sparked that speculation, I just copied it into my preview to get myself started and forgot to delete it^
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Post Post #614 (ISO) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:54 pm

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In post 595, Superhans wrote:
In post 592, Desperado wrote:Really don't like AH linking Alisae and ThinkBig like he is. AH-ThinkBig team gaining steam.
Hmm you think ThinkBig would be trying to push his scum partner into a lynch, just to gain town cred? Seems implausible to me.
There's not much point to discussing it in detail at this point but yes, I think AH would replace in as scum and post a BS case on a partner, especially when he's now claiming it wasn't legit to begin with. And I think ThinkBig and AH could see that they might become competing wagons as a result and ramped up the bussing.
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Post Post #615 (ISO) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:55 pm

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In post 602, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 592, Desperado wrote:Really don't like AH linking Alisae and ThinkBig like he is. AH-ThinkBig team gaining steam.
Can you point out where he's linking tb and alisae?
Is this a joke?
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Post Post #616 (ISO) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:56 pm

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In post 574, Antihuman wrote:Lol this readlist's such bullshit
In post 570, ThinkBig wrote:
Revised Read List


Algebra
- Confirmed town. I so wish he would contribute to the game and be more active. There's no way I'd be TRing him if he wasn't the IC.
<--- Completely unnecessary comment. Trying to appear better by having one extra scumread


Alisae
- By far my biggest town read. He shows genuine interest in the game and shows genuine scum hunting.
<--- because she scumreads me too, how surprising


Superhans
- Town lean. I disagree with his logic, but I understand where he is coming from
<--- aka "I know his reasons for scumreading me are valid but I'll just wait until he gets bored and goes away"


ssbm_Kyouko - Null town.
<--- in your previous readlist, she was a "null lean", which looks like a hilarious slip. You don't wanna look like you have too many nulls but you have no reasons for townreading her.


Davesaz - Null town.
<--- for what? He's defended me and he's voted Desperado for logic which you called flatout wrong!

Kop - Null
<--- what's your opinion on Real's case on Kop?


Gamma - Null
<--- but he's my partner, member?!


Desperado
- Null, leans scum. I don't really buy the traitor theory nor do I buy the logic behind it.
<--- Why the fuck are you scumleaning on him then?! Leaving your options open? You should be scumreading people who started pushing him for wrong reasons instead! (including your strongest tr, Alisae...)


Realeao
- Scum lean. 561 screams opportunistic and sheeping. I also don't like how he is constantly flipping his reads and can't seem to make up his mind.
<--- How the hell is he sheeping when he's provided valid reasons for scumreading you, just like Superhans. How come you don't "disagree with his logic but see where he's coming from" here? Being undecided isn't a scumtell too. You've scumread me for tunnelling, which is a complete opposite! You also haven't addressed his points...


Antihuman
- Continuing to throw shades and continuing
<--- what the hell does that even mean? If scumminess was the color black, there wouldn't even be a shadow visible on you, smh


Honest to god, I wasn't really up to lynching you when I entered the game but now I seriously have reasons to see you hang, there are just too many discrepancies. I also wouldn't be surprised at Tb-Alisae team. Both are pushing me on bullshit reasoning and townread each other based on thin air, looks like a well coordinated last minute mislynch push.
In post 586, Antihuman wrote:zZz just lynch me already, I can't take this united scumfront pounding at my will to do something productive
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Post Post #617 (ISO) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:57 pm

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In post 608, Superhans wrote:I know one thing for sure, that is ThinkBig and Antihuman AREN'T scum together.
Based on...
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Post Post #618 (ISO) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:59 pm

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Kyouko are you seriously trying to start a brand new wagon with less than 24 hours left?
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Post Post #619 (ISO) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 5:01 pm

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Yes
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Post Post #620 (ISO) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 5:03 pm

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I would prefer to lynch someone I think is more likely to flip scum after considering the events of the day
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Post Post #621 (ISO) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:14 pm

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In post 617, Desperado wrote:
In post 608, Superhans wrote:I know one thing for sure, that is ThinkBig and Antihuman AREN'T scum together.
Based on...
Do you think their engagement could plausibly b theatre?
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Post Post #622 (ISO) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:16 pm

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Timewise I think it gammagon is fukt
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Post Post #623 (ISO) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:17 pm

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Well, I've already answered that question once this game. And I just explained how it could be scum theater.

So...yes.
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Post Post #624 (ISO) » Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:18 pm

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In post 614, Desperado wrote:
In post 595, Superhans wrote:
In post 592, Desperado wrote:Really don't like AH linking Alisae and ThinkBig like he is. AH-ThinkBig team gaining steam.
Hmm you think ThinkBig would be trying to push his scum partner into a lynch, just to gain town cred? Seems implausible to me.
Nah I don't think so

There's not much point to discussing it in detail at this point but yes, I think AH would replace in as scum and post a BS case on a partner, especially when he's now claiming it wasn't legit to begin with. And I think ThinkBig and AH could see that they might become competing wagons as a result and ramped up the bussing.
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